http://variety.com/2014/film/news/suicide-squad-cast-revealed-jared-leto-to-play-the-joker-will-smith-is-deadshot-1201368867/
OMG, Deadshot is black! How dare they, etc... ;)
Here's the Joker...
(http://i.imgur.com/zqKYfEg.jpg)
Rubbish
I'm sure Leto will be fine, but I'm not sure why The Joker would tattoo himself with imagery taken directly from DC comic books. Do DC comics exist in the DC universe, or do the residents of Metropolis and Gotham all read Tales Of The Black Freighter?
Deary me, that's truly awful.
As someone on facebook said, he looks like the lead singer of CrazyTown. As io9 put it, he looks like what an out of touch person thinks is edgy.
Genuinely thought it was a fan photoshop at first. Not seeing anything in the DCCU(?) that appeals to me at all.
Looks like Marilyn Manson.
Well he looks okay, bit punk Joker.
Wait and see till the clips, remember about Heath Ledger when some people thoughts that was bad casting, till his performance.
I just see Miley Cyrus.
Reminds me of all those terrible Nu-Metal bands from the late 90's.
That I used to listen to.
And drink to.
And throw up in the middle of the dancefloor to.
That other people slipped on.
Poor Joker. He's so damaged.
The tats might just work if they weren't so literal. Makes him look so self-conscious.
I don't think this is the actual look of the Joker in the film, it's probably just some marketing thing. The only thing in the photo that is consistent with the leaked set pictures is the green hair.
Heath Ledgers Joker is a difficult act to follow. He was a true psychopath and like Javier Bardom Anton Chigurh a menace to everyone even his own gang members. What do you do when one actors performance becomes synonymous with a character you've now been asked to play?
If you play it like Ledger's version you'd just be accused of doing a poor impression of Ledgers Joker which is a problem to start with. So you have to change it into your version of it since it's a different script etc and hopefully bring to the character something the audience can relate to. The Joker is insane but so the world we live in and that's what makes the Joker such a compelling character. If the worlds mad why behave?
So he looks weird more like the comic book or the Batman Game series but that's to try and get away from the Dark Knight version. After all and I shudder as I write this -he might be the Films Comic relief. :-\
QuoteI don't think this is the actual look of the Joker in the film, it's probably just some marketing thing. The only thing in the photo that is consistent with the leaked set pictures is the green hair.
Pretty sure it is the look they're going with - though I wouldn't be at all surprised if the negative response sees them scrambling to change it to something less lame.
QuoteIf you play it like Ledger's version you'd just be accused of doing a poor impression of Ledgers Joker which is a problem to start with. So you have to change it into your version of it since it's a different script etc
Well obviously. The joker character is pretty malleable and can stand up to pretty diverse interpretations. Doesn't change the fact that this one looks embarrassingly shit.
The look they're going for could
potentially work (I actually think the grill is a pretty neat spin), but imo it needs rethinking, starting with those laughably bad tattoos. Get a proper tatto artist to design something cool and less contrived, for example.
Reminds me a bit of the Joker from Batman RIP.
(https://p.dreamwidth.org/406bb1aedac5/i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq109/thesolusone/TheJoker.jpg)
Btw. Seems like they'll include Johnny Frost (from Brian Azzarello's Joker) in Suicide Squad. Wouldn't mind if the ending of Joker made it into the film, in one way or another.
The tattoos are a bit too self-aware, imo. Would a madman like the Joker set out to establish an...image?
Heh...
(http://i.imgur.com/lp9nyGl.jpg)
:lol:
Well there you go, says it all really.
Not so fast: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/27/no-tattoos-for-the-joker-this-may-not-be-what-we-see-in-sucide-squad/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Can't see the logic of them releasing that image at all then! Given people are waiting to see what Leto's joker will look like, given the past history of fan reactions to comic book movie reveals, given the fact they probably spent a while picking the perfect shot to really maximize their big reveal - to release something that isn't representative just seems astonishingly misguided and stupid.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 28 April, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
...just seems astonishingly misguided and stupid.
Welcome to DC.
Got loads of folk talking about the film though, didn't it?
:lol:
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11072364_10153203358780734_5804443797022513377_n.jpg?oh=b90baa5e5321845ef077fcd9dc8a8eaa&oe=55DBB524)
The Deadshot leak seems a little embarrassing too as it's apparently just a paintball mask off the internet - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/05/01/you-can-get-your-very-own-suicide-squad-deadshot-movie-mask (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/05/01/you-can-get-your-very-own-suicide-squad-deadshot-movie-mask)
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/04/masks.jpg)
Unless they're just going for a 'real world stuff you can buy' look for the movie, but if they're going for something like that I feel like Arrow already did a really good Deadshot look in that vein -
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130420175849/arrow/images/8/89/Deadshot_with_an_eyepatch.png)
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 01 May, 2015, 01:55:55 PM
The Deadshot leak seems a little embarrassing too as it's apparently just a paintball mask off the internet
I doubt that's Deadshot - too short for Will Smith (or his stunt-double) who is also in the same scene photos but in civvies rather than suited up.
(http://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2015330/rs_634x1024-150430093754-634.Will-Smith-JR-43015.jpg)
Ah ok. I've made the classic error of believing everything I read on the internet there! I guess an off the shelf paintball mask makes a lot more sense for what's probably a random goon.
So what plot about? A group of villains to stop villains? Like Thunderbolts?
I read somewhere it's basically the dirty half dozen. Here's a link to some alleged plotting. Explosive charges just like in the anime classic Cyber City:Oedo 808.
http://screenrant.com/suicide-squad-movie-plot-dc-cameos-rumors/
Now I just really want to watch Cyber City Oedo.
I don't have a clue who most of them are supposed to be but here's a picture.
(http://i.imgur.com/Rdm0mNl.jpg)
So the Joker is the target? Ok...
Glad DC are deciding to brighten this one up
(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/05/will-smith-deadshot-1-134393.jpg)
Isn't the lass kneeling going to be in the season finale of Arrow! Buggered if I know the character but I think I recognise the mask.
Yeah she's Katana and I've heard - seen somewhere she's in Arrow. Is the TV and cinema world colliding?
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 04 May, 2015, 07:18:54 AM
Yeah she's Katana and I've heard - seen somewhere she's in Arrow. Is the TV and cinema world colliding?
She's been in several episodes of the show, just not as Katana (yet).
As for colliding - same character, different actress. DC = dumb continuity.
Wow. Edgy.
I'm always amused when Harley Quinn's look isn't based on that of a Harlequin. Do you think they didn't get the pun?
Jai Courtney looks like a bargain basement Tom Hardy.
Is he playing the character Hardy was originally cast?
Killer croc looks pretty cool will smith looks great as deadshot and margot robbie as harley quinn looks ugly as always ;) the rest of them erm who are they supposed to be again.
Here's a bit of behind the scenes footage!
Behind the scenes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmbWuV2vhNo)
Saw some on-set pictures of Margot Robbie as Harley the other day (won't link to them as it will give the Daily Mail a hit) - I'll just say oo-er lummy cor blimey luv. Jaysus.
Killer Croc looks like some heavy dude wearing heavy prosthesis on his face. Which looks kind of sloppy from that angle. I only recognise him and Harliquin from playing the very first Batman AA and don't know much else about this one.
Of course know the Joker.
Just the common knowledge.
Some more pics of the Joker...
JOKER set pics (http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/12037-new-suicide-squad-set-photos-bring-further-look-at-the-joker)
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 May, 2015, 04:29:43 AM
JOKER set pics (http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/12037-new-suicide-squad-set-photos-bring-further-look-at-the-joker)
Stupid face tattoos are an actual thing that's going to be in the actual film ...
Dinner dinner dinner dinner dinner dinner dinner dinner Batman!!!
http://mashable.com/2015/05/26/batmobile-chase-joker-suicide-squad-set/
Mmm that does looks okay, better than that batman v superman trailer!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=PLLQK9la6Go (https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=PLLQK9la6Go)
Gotta say, I'm intrigued. DC's approach to these movies was always going to suit something like this much better than the likes of Man Of Steel (aka "We're Too Embarrassed To Actually Call Him Superman"). Sign me up. Margot Robbie looks divine, Will Smith's son thankfully doesn't appear to be in this, and I happen to think Leto looks absolutely terrifying.
Yeah, Joker did look good in that context. Actually surprised at how well this looked, as I thought it was going to end up a mess. And I could quite happily watch Margot Robbie making sandwiches, so there's the gravy.
Who's the guy with the Wolverine like facial hair.
Tom Hardy or some other guy?
I just read that Oprah Winfrey is in this as well, not sure if that was prank.
Doesn't sound right and it didn't look like her exactly in the trailer.
The alligator dude, still too short, but other wise scaley.
Intriguing, yes....but not my favourite comic book franchise.
Okay...
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/wtegKPCn4_dn34otZkHbkQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://l.yimg.com/cd/resizer/2.0/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w1200/d4a65bda5131bde968111034cce8f4f33537875d.jpg)
New full trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs)
Finally, DC gets something right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs&feature=youtu.be
Shit, Sorry Goaty! Stepped on your toes there. I stand by my initial comment.
Yep, looks like fun.
Yes. Fun. In a DC movie. Clearly a mistake!
(First non-Batman DC movie I might go and see...)
Cheers
Jim
Yes it does look quite fun but I can't help thinking that Harlequin should look like a Harlequin.
I don't like them!
Looks alright, but I seem to be the only person who reads comics who doesn't like Harley Quinn - even less so after her bizarre reboot hypersexualisation - and everything I've seen Margot Robbie in has been dreadful. I am hoping she is a tiny part of this.
She's kind of obnoxious and her excuse for existing by saying -words to the effect- "Because I'm/we're bad" and not really god excuse for being like
long finger nails being scraped along a blackboardI don't find her or the rest of them unpleasant because they tend to, but because evil generally chooses it's minions out of need. Which is sad really.
Wether they resort to being obnoxious a-holes is another matter, people like that definitely on the menu.
I still like
Cara D....something. I'm terrible at remembering her surname, it's spelling and even worse at it's pronunciation and this film is just a misuse of her.
The Crocodile-Dude is really just man suffering from this.....
(https://faustuscrow.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/dinosaur_reptilian_brainstem_dance_goetia_girls.gif?w=408&h=287)
Reptilian Atavism
I was going to repeat my complaint that he's should be head shoulders over the rest of them. Yet his character bio now states that he wasn't always as big as he was in that
Batman game.
As for
Boomerang (& Half-
Australian!) it does bother me that he's adopted similar facial hair to myself and something else about his character bio bothers me as well and that actor was once
Varro from that
Spartacus romp. He was killed by his best friend.
Both him and
Robbie are
Sydney natives and wonder if they are stalking me.
He's picture showing just how much some of the characters don't appear they did in the comics....
(http://www.movienewz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/suicide-squad-movie-cast.jpg)
How annoying, but I was having bad day today and this effects my attitude.
Quote from: JamesC on 20 January, 2016, 10:27:53 AM
Yes it does look quite fun but I can't help thinking that Harlequin should look like a Harlequin.
Sound like Harley Quinn at least, but the trailer does jump it onto my "watch at the cinema" list.
Dunk!
That looks fun. How odd.
I know I'm going to be angry coming out of this movie, and yet I still want to see it. Weird.
It might just be the Rhapsody talking, but I....like the look of that.
Added bonus: bits of it look like Dredd 3D.
gang of misfits bust out of prison
seventies soundtrack
violent action timed to old queen hit
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/256372/shaun-of-the-dead-pool-cues-o.gif)
(https://thoughtsofjackik.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/a-holes.gif)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/PgBfYAg3MASM8/giphy.gif)
Those are two damn fine antecedents though!
Quote from: Dunk! on 20 January, 2016, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 20 January, 2016, 10:27:53 AM
Yes it does look quite fun but I can't help thinking that Harlequin should look like a Harlequin.
Sound like Harley Quinn at least, but the trailer does jump it onto my "watch at the cinema" list.
Dunk!
I didn't think she sounded like Harley at all. Sure she sounded sassy, but not completely unhinged. As for her appearance; Based on Warners' apparent embarrassment about superheroes, I imagine something similar to the following dialogue occuring:
"Harley Quinn, huh? I thought you'd be dressed more like a clown."
"But that would be crazy!" *maniacal laughter *
Also it would seem that Leto is channeling Ledger. Not wise, Ledger's Joker is one of the greatest comic book performances ever, comparisons will abound and the balance in the dead guy's favour
Quote from: Mister Pops on 22 January, 2016, 12:28:38 AM
Also it would seem that Leto is channeling Ledger. Not wise, Ledger's Joker is one of the greatest comic book performances ever, comparisons will abound and the balance in the dead guy's favour
Not worried. Leto's a fine actor and it's worth remembering the cries of anguish when Ledger was first announced as Joker.
New trailer!
https://youtu.be/MZwsbcW-d-E (https://youtu.be/MZwsbcW-d-E)
Not quite as engaging as the previous trailer, probably the disjointed music, but I still like the look of this. Pity that Will Smith seems to be playing Will Smith (again), and Katana seems out of place, but the rest of the cast seem fun. Interesting to see Affleck's Batman again so soon too.
The Queen trailer was cute, but I think they might be overplaying the music angle now.
Really whoever chose those songs wants a good telling off! The music choices there totally killed the trailer. Still on my list of films to see at the cinema.
Quote from: Tordelback on 11 April, 2016, 10:23:04 AM
Interesting to see Affleck's Batman again so soon too.
Is that Batman or someone dressed as Batman? There's one shot that makes me think the latter, but I could be way off base there?
unless batfleck has been on slimfast
gaps in cast list - speculation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Squad_(film)#Cast
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 11 April, 2016, 07:30:47 PM
Is that Batman or someone dressed as Batman? There's one shot that makes me think the latter, but I could be way off base there?
Stunt stand-in?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5eVWn-EeGQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5eVWn-EeGQ)
Final trailer
https://youtu.be/smHxeRdf7oI (https://youtu.be/smHxeRdf7oI)
I'm cautiously optimistic about this!
Has to be better than Batman v Superman, anyway.
Reviews are coming in and they are not pretty. Dang. Spoke to someone at SDCC who'd seen it and sounds like it lines up with his opinion: [spoiler]Short on plot, confusing tone, hope you like Will Smith, the entire movie is in the trailer. Lower your expectations, basically.[/spoiler]
That's too bad. I was hoping it was going to at least be a bit of fun.
Sounds like DC films...
So long as there's no smiling and cracking jokes as people die, then that's a plus from me :thumbsup:
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2016, 07:31:00 PM
So long as there's no smiling and cracking jokes as people die, then that's a plus from me :thumbsup:
Problem is, thats basically what Suicide Squad by Ostrander IS, and that's the best DC book ever.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2016, 07:31:00 PM
So long as there's no smiling and cracking jokes as people die, then that's a plus from me :thumbsup:
Erm... Joker?
Never heard of the Joker, what does she do?
There's talks about small plot, I wonder if re-shoots make it worse?
I thought the re-shoots were in response to the success of Deadpool to give it an 18 rating? Maybe I heard that wrong.
Quote from: von Boom on 02 August, 2016, 07:40:16 PM
I thought the re-shoots were in response to the success of Deadpool to give it an 18 rating? Maybe I heard that wrong.
Rating hasn't changed over here since reshoots. The reshoots were to lighten the movie, apparently, and add some humor.
It's been rated 15 in the U.K.
Maybe Harley Quinn's hot pants were an issue! :o
oh dear
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016/ (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016/)
It never fails to amaze me that people still so surprised when a movie that was widely reported to be a really messy production (massive story problems, rewrites, reshoots and cast departures) turns out to not be very good...
Apparently they've tried to go for a Guardians of the Galaxy-style eclectic compilation of licensed pop music for the soundtrack, but all their song choices are painfully obvious and on-the-nose.
Sounds like yet another case of DC looking at what Marvel are doing, thinking 'we can do that too' without for a second understanding why it works in Marvel movies.
Jared Leto's Joker sounds absolutely loathsome, going by reviews. And not in a good way.
Rolling Stone's review: "Forget Batman v Superman — at least it tried. This botch job makes Fantastic Four look good."
(I doubt it's THAT bad!)
I might go see this, because whatever the word on this was, it was never going to be reliable.
With superhero movies, the fandom can't ever let a movie be "meh", it always has to be utterly amazing or completely terrible, with no middle ground. Critics and cinema hipsters also seem to be of a consensus that superhero movies are a bubble and have a vested interest in being proved right with a palpable bomb, so I'll trust no judgment but my own on this one and would advise others to do the same.
Should be off to the midnight showing, will pen a review on Friday.
Reviews have been all over the place, indicating this might be a real Marmite movie. I want to like it, but then again I want to like all comic based films.
Quote from: Goaty on 02 August, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
oh dear
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016/ (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016/)
(http://i.imgur.com/a0Gpzgj.png?5)
Why do Warner Brothers carry on making such awful embarrassments of films? Why waste all the time and effort it takes to cobble together these shambling Frankenstein's monsters when they clearly have no idea why the film needs to exist, what story they want to tell, or how those stories should be told?
(http://i.imgur.com/Pnny1yS.png?1)
Oh right, now I get it. Can't blame them.
Interesting
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693)
Saw it today. Didn't think it was awful, but not that great either. Some really interesting characters, but just felt like a standard super hero film. I was hoping for Dirty Dozen but instead got Avengers meets Ghost busters 2. Mostly just action stuff and not that well edited.
Last trailer looks fun + I liked last David Ayer film + I quite like DC superheroes + all films are better at cinems = I will be ignoring reviews and making my own mind up at the Odeon.
Just back from the cinema. First up: it's a mess. It's very clearly at least three completely different movies mashed together and then subjected to a salvage-it-in-the-edit attempt. It wants to be the movie you saw in the trailers, but there's angsty grimdark psychodrama underneath, struggling to be free, and it never manages to satisfy on either level.
Bafflingly, however, it manages to be quite a lot of fun and rather entertaining. None of the actors are terrible, and several of them are great. I like the way it's shot, and the interactions are often pretty funny.
It barely makes a lick of sense but, somehow, that doesn't really seem to matter.
Yeah that all pretty much sums up my feelings. It's a total mess, but we still had fun and are glad we watched it. Could even see me dipping in and out of it again if it showed up on TV while channel-hopping, so certainly didn't hate it. Parts of it I really liked in fact. The grating overuse of licensed songs irritated me, it was like being at a party where someone skips the track every 20secs, and I really didn't like Leto's Joker at all (it's got none of the easy swaggering cool of previous portrayals, he comes across as trying way too hard) but it was a fun couple of hours. Will Smith and Margot Robbie (and also Margot Robbie's shorts) completely steal the whole thing.
I shall give this a go on Tuesday, just to see what an incoherent mess it supposedly is, so Warner's can at least be satisfied by getting some of those filthy amateur film studies $'s-is that the niche demographic Warners were going for?
Until then, here's the always amusing Half In The Bag deconstruction of Suicide Squad:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ePoxmPMwJNQ
Redlettermedia never fail to hit the nail on the head...except for when they're wrong. XD
How badly was the editing?
I... think I enjoyed it.
But I'm not entirely sure.
Kevin Smith apparently liked it quite a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9qlatBqfU0
I really enjoyed Suicide Squad - it's like the greatest fan film ever in a good way. Maybe I've seen too many remakes recently or impressive but dull sequels. This was crazy - in both a good & bad way. The plot was bonkers but Harley Quinns was a stand out performance. And thanks god the over bearing seriousness of the previous DC films was absent. I agree that this seems like a failed mash up of Deadpool and Guardians but I loved it. Much like the Joker's missus it's inconsistent, messy, superficial - but it didn't feel like a doomed rerun of Nolan's Dark Knight. It's a guilty pleasure...
I am back in Newcastle as freelance work. There is subtitled screening of Suicide Squad tonight at 8pm, as it could be first film to watch since The Force Awakens. Is it worth to watch or wait till DVD?
cheers!
Quote from: Goaty on 15 August, 2016, 08:41:15 AM
I am back in Newcastle as freelance work. There is subtitled screening of Suicide Squad tonight at 8pm, as it could be first film to watch since The Force Awakens. Is it worth to watch or wait till DVD?
cheers!
Up to you, I don't think it's a must see in the theater or anything, but that depends on how much you're guessing you'd dig it. I thought it was just okay, cheesy and shallow but with some charm.
Quote from: Goaty on 15 August, 2016, 08:41:15 AM
I am back in Newcastle as freelance work. There is subtitled screening of Suicide Squad tonight at 8pm, as it could be first film to watch since The Force Awakens. Is it worth to watch or wait till DVD?
cheers!
Neither. It's pretty lousy. Saw it last night with dialed down expectations and it still managed to be a complete stinker. It's a shame too because it's got all the game pieces, particularly the cast. Just the execution of the movie lets you down. i don't know what movie Ayers had before the studio got their hands on it, but it had to be more cohesive than the incoherent shite it currently is. Worst thing I've seen this summer by a long haul.
Just got kicked out of this before it started.
Went with the missus and my Son who is twelve and his mate of the same age.
I appreciate that I was in the wrong but we did get past the ticket check and was ejected once the trailers started. Still, got the money back.
Again, I appreciate it's a 15 but I do find it rather indicative of the nanny state when both parents of the children are happy for them to see it.
I wouldn't have felt so bad if we had got turned away at the ticket barrier mind. That was quite annoying. Still, I'll go back on my own another day.
My own fault but I do find it ironic that my Son can easily watch, and has watched, 18 rated films, and played 18 rated games with my permission because I know he can handle it and it won't effect him in a negative fashion but some young 20 something assistant manager (who is doing his job after all) can make that decision. I don't blame him in the slightest, as mentioned he is doing what he is paid to do, it's my own fault for thinking I could make a parenting decision and get away with it. Silly me.
He'll have to wait for the blu ray or for it to come on SKY.
So nobody wins in the end.
That sounds really annoying! Saying that, when they do let parents take those decisions into their own hands they get grief for it. Apparently parents taking under-12s to 12A movies and then giving the cinema hassle for it not being suitable for them is very much a thing. When the films aren't suitable for very young kids the parents blame the cinemas and put in complaints, even though it was their own choice to take them in. Not saying you'd be one of those parents (it seems very silly behaviour) but those might be the situations they're trying to avoid!
Absolutely, I fully understand their stance, annoying as it is.
Given there's no such thing as an usher or even a projectionist, how did that even happen? Me doth suspect a busybody in the audience, oblivious to the irony of watching Suicide Squad and reporting a 12 year old.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 17 August, 2016, 04:46:34 PM
Given there's no such thing as an usher or even a projectionist, how did that even happen? Me doth suspect a busybody in the audience, oblivious to the irony of watching Suicide Squad and reporting a 12 year old.
I agree. Manager person, when asked the same question, told me he had seen us walking in which smelt strangely of bullshit to me because he then must have waited 15 minutes before confronting us.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 17 August, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
That sounds really annoying! Saying that, when they do let parents take those decisions into their own hands they get grief for it. Apparently parents taking under-12s to 12A movies and then giving the cinema hassle for it not being suitable for them is very much a thing. When the films aren't suitable for very young kids the parents blame the cinemas and put in complaints, even though it was their own choice to take them in. Not saying you'd be one of those parents (it seems very silly behaviour) but those might be the situations they're trying to avoid!
What's the legal situation? Is it the same raft of laws which affects selling glue, knives, tobacco and alcohol to whatever age each of those is set at, or is it more informal?
The Tips household all mostly enjoyed that. It's a bit of a mess but entertaining. Flagg was a bit wet for my liking but Will Smith and Margot Robbie were both great fun (would have been a different film without them). Some nice design work with the monsters and the special effects and cinematogrophy meant it pulled off the trick of being dark AND colourful!
Not entirely sure of the point of Leto's Joker. The blinged up original gangsta is a brave choice (I suppose if they had been around in the forties, that's possibly what he would have started out as) but didn't work for me. And he had zero bearing on the plot.
But pretty good fun. I generally think it's only getting a kicking because a lot of internetters love to hate on something. And while it is in no way as good as your better (Marvel) movies, I'd still happilly watch that again.
well I saw this at the weekend and can only echo what's already been said - there are lots of good scenes, the performances are good (paticularly Margot Robbie) but the storyline sucks and the changes in tone are jarring -[spoiler]we jump from the 'meet the characters' section to having Flagg and the monobrowed one in the sewers with the big baddy already destroying the city, which felt at the time like the film had skipped a scene, but later on the the lead-up to this scene is explained pointlessly in flashback.
Also, sandwiched between the big street fight and the final showdown, we get the scene in the bar in which we hear about Diablo incinerating his family, which brings all the momentum grinding to a halt and is a real buzzkill. And you can't fill in plot holes simply by having somebody mention it (eg when Will smith comments to Waller at the end "Damn, how are you still alive?" - which is exactly what I was thinking[/spoiler]
Other random thoughts:
The actual threat in the movie felt very contrived and cliched - ancient thingy released, big superweapon nearing completion, pointless mysterious swirling stuff in the sky, ho hum
I agree that the soundtrack of hits is obtrusive and unimaginative.
I thought Jared Leto's Joker was pretty good, can't see why he's getting such a bad press
What's up with Cara's jiggy little spooky dance? Looks like she needs the loo.
Quote from: sheridan on 21 August, 2016, 08:34:47 PM
What's the legal situation? Is it the same raft of laws which affects selling glue, knives, tobacco and alcohol to whatever age each of those is set at, or is it more informal?
"It is illegal to supply a VHS, DVD, Blu-ray Disc, UMD, video game or film tickets with an 18 certificate to anyone under that age"
And so on for the various age ratings. And in 2009 the Tories did the same for PEGI, the Videogame/software rating. Glad I got my hands on things long before these dark days of Mary Whitehouse Eternal.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 23 August, 2016, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 21 August, 2016, 08:34:47 PM
What's the legal situation? Is it the same raft of laws which affects selling glue, knives, tobacco and alcohol to whatever age each of those is set at, or is it more informal?
"It is illegal to supply a VHS, DVD, Blu-ray Disc, UMD, video game or film tickets with an 18 certificate to anyone under that age"
And so on for the various age ratings. And in 2009 the Tories did the same for PEGI, the Videogame/software rating. Glad I got my hands on things long before these dark days of Mary Whitehouse Eternal.
I never quite understood how Mary Whitehouse and her ilk were able to watch something without being corrupted, but the rest of us would lose control If we watched the same thing. Not to speak too ill about the dead but Mary Whitehouse was a massive Twat!
Cheers
Corbyn, Brexit, Leicester City, Trump, Superbowl LI ... now this (http://www.avclub.com/article/its-now-oscar-winning-suicide-squad-thanks-very-mu-251090):
Suicide Squad has become an Oscar winner—officially entered into the annals of Academy history, alongside The Godfather, Schindler's List, and Moonlight.
D.C.'s poorly reviewed supervillain team-up took home the Best Make-Up And Hairstyling trophy, recognizing the transformative work its team did in smearing Four Loko and Mudvayne CDs on its actors, then writing the word "Damaged" on the Joker's head to convey that he is damaged.
In the future, when you are speaking of Suicide Squad, you must now refer to it as "the Oscar-winning Suicide Squad," as outlined in Academy rules.
There were only 3 nominees though ..
Best Makeup and Hairstyling
A Man Called Ove
Star Trek Beyond
***WINNER: Suicide Squad
No way that should have beaten Chris Pine's luscious hair!
Some sort of Harley Quinn spin off is apparently in the works (with Robbie involved, producing and such) as well as a sequel which Mel Gibson are in the talks of directing.
Not sure what to make of it, but I hope projects will fare better than the first film. More sure of what they're out to achieve.
Regardless. Justice League seems like it has potential (NEW GODS!!!), and I quite like both Man of steel as well as Dawn of Justice. I'm quite alright settling with those three as a superman centric DC epic :)
Quote from: Frank on 28 February, 2017, 05:22:13 PM
In the future, when you are speaking of Suicide Squad, you must now refer to it as "the Oscar-winning Suicide Squad," as outlined in Academy rules.
Can a moderator change the title of this thread Please?
Am I alone in quite liking this film?
I mean- it was nonsense, but I found it quite entertaining nonsense (unlike Batman v Superman which was po-faced fucking drivel which appeared to take itself far too seriously).
I have no clue as to how characters/ story lines compare to the comics as I haven't read much superhero stuff since I was a kid (unless someone gets me a gn or something for xmas/ birthdays) and other than Batman I'm pretty unfamiliar with a lot of the DC universe stuff. I am getting acquainted with it through Arrow, Flash, Supergirl and Bellends of Tomorrow series' which are all broadly entertaining enough in their own way (to various degrees).
I'm not convinced that Oscar winners are always 'good films'- I was under the impression that most of these prestigious awards centre around industry politics rather than whether or not the films are actually any use. I mean- it's entirely subjective so how can that even be measured? One persons serious, heavyweight, gravitas-laden movie is another persons dull-ass, talky, sack of bilge, surely?
Quote from: Dog Deever on 07 March, 2017, 11:52:06 PM
Am I alone in quite liking this film?
Nope. It made not a
lick of sense, and I don't imagine I'll ever watch it again, but somehow it managed to be quite a lot of fun, something that seems to have been missing from DC movies* for far too long.
*Note: it's possible that all the above might also be true of Green Lantern, but I haven't seen it.
I quite liked BvS and the same for SS. I never really enjoyed the DC universe - which I always felt vaguely guilty about, to the extent that I started collecting the DC GN collection, but cancelled it due to the largely crappy stories and characters (arrows with boxing gloves on the end and a superhero susceptible to the colour yellow, ffs).
I've also been watching Arrow, Flash, Supergirl and Gotham and all these are, much like SS, fairly entertaining - but no more than that (except for Gotham, which is a cut above the rest). The entire DC universe seems to take itself too seriously when most of it is just daft and/or tedious.
But yeah, Suicide Squad is okay as far as it goes, on a par with any number of action films like R.E.D. or The Expendables, and Harley Quinn is the character that saves it from being utter tosh.
I'm another who rather liked Suicide Squad.
I liked Batman vs Superman too, actually, although it is a bit messy and takes itself rather seriously.
Mind you, I seem to like quite a lot of films others consider rubbish, so, I'm not sure how much my opinion is worth.
I do like the majority of films others rate hi ghly too. The Nolan Batman films got on my nerves a bit, though. I didn't dislike them (I thought the first was really good actually) but I did find them somewhat pretentious, and a bit overrated.
I guess we're more forgiving than most! There are very few films I've ever given up on before they've finished - most have at least something to offer, even if it's a lesson in how not to do it...
Quote from: Mardroid on 08 March, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
I do like the majority of films others rate hi ghly too. The Nolan Batman films got on my nerves a bit, though. I didn't dislike them (I thought the first was really good actually) but I did find them somewhat pretentious, and a bit overrated.
The Nolan films were okay, but the Wikipedia-level psychology was utter bilge, even more so than the average superhero nonsense.
The only good Batman movies are Lego Batman, Mask of the Phantasm, and Returns.
And Batman and Robin. Shut up, compared to BvS it's a goddamn masterpiece!
I'm with you on Lego Batman. It skewers the po-faced idiocy that infects those films (and comics, to be fair). I do also have a fondness for the first Tim Burton film, having seen it at an impressionable age.
Quote from: Dog Deever on 07 March, 2017, 11:52:06 PM
Am I alone in quite liking (Suicide Squad)? ... I'm not convinced that Oscar winners are always 'good films' ... One persons serious, heavyweight, gravitas-laden movie is another persons dull-ass, talky, sack of bilge, surely?
I thought the link I posted was having a pop at the pretentions of the Academy, as much as a film audiences seem to agree is average (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016/) to unexceptional (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386697/ratings). I wouldn't know - I'm done with superhero movies until they all stop using the same story.
The dull, talky stereotype holds true for acting awards, but the Best Film winner is usually decent. A straight comparison between
Best Hair & Makeup and
Best Film results doesn't suggest one category is a more reliable indicator of quality and/or entertainment value than the other:
(http://i.imgur.com/qxzkFrt.png?1)(http://i.imgur.com/7O7y2bx.png?1)
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 08 March, 2017, 06:46:53 AM
Nope. It made not a lick of sense, and I don't imagine I'll ever watch it again, but somehow it managed to be quite a lot of fun, something that seems to have been missing from DC movies* for far too long.
*Note: it's possible that all the above might also be true of Green Lantern, but I haven't seen it.
Yeah, that pretty much nails it- it was
fun. I got the download and DVD free from Sky as a xmas prezzie, which always helps (I also bagged my dad's xmas voucher and blew it on Asterix and the Mansion of the Gods, which was enjoyable tosh too).
I'm only dimly aware of Green Lantern from the old animated Justice League cartoon which the missus was a fan of- I never liked Lantern and his Green Ring of Everythingness. I did watch the film, well... half of it then wandered off to do something more interesting. Mrs Deever watched it all and says it's pish- that's not to say you won't like it, of course.
I think one problem I had with DC was that they just
seemed to add different colours to supes to make new supes (this may not be totally fair as I'm largely ignorant of it all; but dammit- how many different coloured arrows and lanterns are needed before someone says- "hey, maybe it's a new
idea we need"). Also- Superman/ Supergirl/ Superboy; Batman/ Batgirl/ Batwoman... jeezo that must've taken
ages (and perhaps
two fag-packets) to come up with. Not enough mind-bending drugs; or else far, far too many.
Quote from: Frank on 08 March, 2017, 05:52:45 PM
I thought the link I posted was having a pop at the pretentions of the Academy...
Ah, sorry. I confess to not clicking the link- my bad. Reading that list though- there's a lot of stuff I wouldn't bother with, my favourite from it would probably be Pan's Labyrinth. Fury Road, like every other Mad Max film, really shouldn't work, but by Grud they all do!