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Title: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 October, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
I think its going to get quiet around, it always does when the Prog is good, who needs to here folks just saying week in week out. This was great, that was great etc etc. Well when the Progs this good we really need to be shouting it from the roof tops. As loud and proud as we can.

We are more than capable of whittering and moaning like a Facebook mob whenever we have a beef and I don't exclude myself from that at all, so when Tharg proves beyond a doubt why this comic is called the Galaxy's Greatest we should be just as vocal and not drift from coming here and showering praise. If we've learnt nothing this week its that we must take things for granted.

The Prog is once again superb, just superb.

Dredd is three fantastic 2 page scenes each offering something different, each moving the whole masterfully forward.

Brink is just a masterclass. It once again returns to its MO of using tight close conversations to drive a bigger world view while reminding us how close and tight the world we are watching is. Just genius

Fiends is a glorious balancing art of action and tension and then a lovely line at the end to throw the night world this story takes us to open.

Skip Tracer is basically since last time the new story I enjoy at these times. Its almost unrecognisable, has given me more reasons to care than then a fantastic 'dreamscape' to fire my imagination.

Kingdom is just Kingdom and that's classic 2000ad at its best.

The entire Prog is a masterclass in art. The Prog as a whole is a sublime mix of different and familiar and when its this good we must never get tired of saying so.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 06 October, 2018, 08:23:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/umrhfAk.jpg)

Cover by Cliff Robinson with Dylan Teague colours.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Tomwe on 06 October, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Really good prog! Loving it.
Anyone wanna tell me who [spoiler]Clone Of War Marshall Kazan[/spoiler] is and why he is important?
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 06 October, 2018, 09:09:45 PM
Rob Williams on Dredd in two words.
Last week "We're fascists."
This week: "Smell crimes."
:)
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 06 October, 2018, 09:19:44 PM
Wikipedia on the chap in the wheelchair:
[spoiler]Anatoli Kazan is the crippled clone son of War Marshal Kazan. He was originally a cadet of East Meg Two and was a thorn in Judge Dredd's side, attacking him through his niece Vienna. He later defected to Mega-City One where he offered to help Defence Division. Dredd was highly suspicious of Kazan's true motives and persuaded the Chief Judge not to trust him, but the Council of Five overruled them and voted to employ Kazan (under strict supervision). Kazan's advice and inside information led to Mega-City One's regime change action in Ciudad Barranquilla, in order to prevent a Sov attempt to do the same; Kazan was drawn looking sinister at the end of the story, suggesting a deeper agenda to his actions.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Tomwe on 06 October, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Cheers Eamonn 👍🏻
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Geoff on 06 October, 2018, 11:15:57 PM
I'm with Colin on this one, more of the same superb quality stories and art. 

With a lovely Cliff Robinson cover too.  TMO is spoiling us and long may it continue..
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 October, 2018, 07:31:05 AM
Quote from: Geoff on 06 October, 2018, 11:15:57 PM
With a lovely Cliff Robinson cover too.  TMO is spoiling us and long may it continue..

Oh and the other thing I forgot, aside from that lovely cover - how angry does that duneshark look - is Thrills of the Future - MORE ZAUCER OF ZILK - wayhey!!!!
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 08 October, 2018, 11:23:46 AM
I must say I'm pleased to see the Kazan clone appear- that character, from memory, was written by Gordon Rennie back in the day when Gordon was writing a lot of Dredd. Once Gordon stepped away the character wasn't seen (happy to be corrected on this if I'm wrong) until now where it looks like Rob Williams is moving a long bubbling plot into high gear.

The rest of the prog is just firing on all cylinders right now.

#PraiseTharg!
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 October, 2018, 11:37:43 AM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 08 October, 2018, 11:23:46 AM
I must say I'm pleased to see the Kazan clone appear- that character, from memory, was written by Gordon Rennie back in the day when Gordon was writing a lot of Dredd. Once Gordon stepped away the character wasn't seen (happy to be corrected on this if I'm wrong) until now where it looks like Rob Williams is moving a long bubbling plot into high gear.

Al Ewing picked up that thread in the wake of Chaos Day (prog 1803), with Dredd rightly demanding what good Kazan was as intelligence given what had just happened to the city. It's always preferrable when these things are picked up on by later writers and given closure, rather than just abruptly dropped.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Magnetica on 08 October, 2018, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 06 October, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
The entire Prog is a masterclass in art. The Prog as a whole is a sublime mix of different and familiar and when its this good we must never get tired of saying so.

Ok I wasn't going to bother, but since you asked nicely...

Yes the Prog is great at the moment.

Especially Dredd. I just love the intrigue and the way previously sown seeds are now coming to the fore.

Brink is just the best new thrill this side of Lawless.

Skip Tracer continues to be way better than series one and has potential to be a"good" thrill. Certainly on a level with many from the past.

FOTEF and Kingdom continue to deliver what they do best.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Richard on 08 October, 2018, 07:22:11 PM
Skip Tracer is definitely better than it used to be.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 October, 2018, 02:24:21 PM
Everything Colin YMCA said  ;)

Can somebody with better webfu that me scan and post that first panel in Dredd where Gurthie names me twice? I'd love to use it as a avatar.


The Dredd is exceptional this week, and Fiends cracking too, not a foot wrong Tharg, and all this with a revolting server
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 October, 2018, 02:30:41 PM
oh, and a start date for Smiley's time in the JD>
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 October, 2018, 08:52:55 AM
Prog 2102 continues to be stellar. Dredd & Brink are A*, although I'm sure some would find Brink too talky.
Skip Tracer has never looked better and has a real House of Daemon feel. Kingdom is old school thrills. Fiends feels cinematic - Dave Taylor is a master of atmosphere. Truely this run of progs is up there with the best for me. May the Second Golden Age of 2000ad continue...
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: broodblik on 10 October, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
As Colin YNWA said this prog is superb.

Really an excellent cover by mister dependable (Cliff Robinson)
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Goosegash on 11 October, 2018, 07:51:18 AM
Heh, when I saw Dave Hine was back in the fold over on the Megazine I thought, "Blimey, what next, will Peter Hogan make a comeback?" And there he is!

It's interesting that Tharg seems to be mending bridges with some of the writers who got shown the door under the nineties "Year Zero" regime.

I'm fully expecting Hilary Robinson to announce a return next.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: norton canes on 11 October, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
Not much to add really - completely in accord with the general consensus that it's all good in the prog right now. Skip Tracer gets TOP THRILL this week for finally blossoming into a strip where the story has as much panache as the artwork.

If I had one criticism it would be that The Small House is packing in so much continuity, it must be difficult for anyone who for whom 2100 actually was a jumping-on prog.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Magnetica on 11 October, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
Quote from: norton canes on 11 October, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
If I had one criticism it would be that The Small House is packing in so much continuity, it must be difficult for anyone who for whom 2100 actually was a jumping-on prog.

I know it can feel like that, but all the info needed to catch up is in the story and the synopsis in the Nerve Centre.

e.g Smiley is running covert Judges, they are using tech based on stuff discovered on Enceladus, Dredd has a band of Judges working with him to track them down.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 October, 2018, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 09 October, 2018, 02:24:21 PM

Can somebody with better webfu that me scan and post that first panel in Dredd where Gurthie names me twice? I'd love to use it as a avatar.


ANYONE?
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: sheridan on 11 October, 2018, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 11 October, 2018, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 09 October, 2018, 02:24:21 PM

Can somebody with better webfu that me scan and post that first panel in Dredd where Gurthie names me twice? I'd love to use it as a avatar.


ANYONE?

Multiversity to the rescue - they've got an image of just that frame!
http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news-columns/multiver-city-one-2102/
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: sheridan on 11 October, 2018, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 11 October, 2018, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 11 October, 2018, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 09 October, 2018, 02:24:21 PM

Can somebody with better webfu that me scan and post that first panel in Dredd where Gurthie names me twice? I'd love to use it as a avatar.


ANYONE?

Multiversity to the rescue - they've got an image of just that frame!
http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news-columns/multiver-city-one-2102/


(http://www.multiversitycomics.com/wp-content/themes/mvc/images/timthumb.php?src=http://multiversitystatic.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2018/10/2000-AD-Prog-2102-Dredd.jpg&q=95&w=593&zc=1&a=t)
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 October, 2018, 01:17:12 PM
cheers Sheridan  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 October, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
eeek! meant  Ex-SJS Gerhart not Guthrie, is he still running a prison block :-*
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Richard on 11 October, 2018, 07:51:39 PM
That's where we last saw him.
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: DrJomster on 11 October, 2018, 09:34:45 PM
Wonderful proggage this week, yet again!

Basically, it's all good! And I'm talking all five cylinders good.

Gorgeous cover too.

Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: sheridan on 11 October, 2018, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Goosegash on 11 October, 2018, 07:51:18 AM
Heh, when I saw Dave Hine was back in the fold over on the Megazine I thought, "Blimey, what next, will Peter Hogan make a comeback?" And there he is!

It's interesting that Tharg seems to be mending bridges with some of the writers who got shown the door under the nineties "Year Zero" regime.

I'm fully expecting Hilary Robinson to announce a return next.


Well, Hilary would have been at the 40th, sharing a stall with Nigel Dobbyn, but I believe had to cancel due to illness :-(  They've worked together since though Galina Rim: The Wolf Onboard (https://downthetubes.net/?tag=hilary-robinson)
Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: maryanddavid on 19 October, 2018, 12:01:32 AM
The prog is really running on 4.5 cylinders at the mo, the half missing is for Smiley and Skippy, never could get my head around the Judge in the cupboard. Still, Flint is the McMahon of the moment turning in Sky Chariot quality pages week in week out, what an artist. And even though I'm not a fan of Smiley, The Williams droid knows how to turn in an enjoyable script.

Fiends, Wow! Art, story, perfect. Very European.

Skippy, its fine, lovely art and competently written, just missing something.

Kingdom, continues on as enjoyable as ever.

Brink, if this was 1986, there would be a Titan album series, T-Shirts and signing in Forbidden Planet signings across the land, its that good.

Title: Re: Prog 2102 - Quick on the Jaw!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 20 October, 2018, 07:03:13 PM
Caught up on three progs today... still suffering from thrill power overload... this continues to be great. I think BRINK plays the trick of how to do a continuing story to new readers better than THE SMALL HOUSE but the Dredd is still excellent.