With the recent return of a certain character of you know who which series that was published and not been in a proper collection would you like to be collected?
I have 4 that I would like Rebellion to do very much like they did for the Treasury of British Comics:
Firekind
Armoured Gideon
Bad City Blue
Brigand Doom
Shadows.
Bradley
Has Shadows really never been reprinted? That'd be ideal floppy fodder. As for the others, I don't see Firekind ever getting the treatment it deserves unless some kind of magic happens. (After all, it's short – only 78 pages.)
I'd happily see anything else mentioned here in the floppies, bar Bradley (which to me doesn't hold up well – and I even liked the bands that featured at the time). Armoured Gideon – bar that awful last series – would make for a nice trade, although I suspect that's wishful thinking. Still, who knows if the 2000 AD UC does well?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 August, 2018, 10:56:42 AM
Has Shadows really never been reprinted? That'd be ideal floppy fodder. As for the others, I don't see Firekind ever getting the treatment it deserves unless some kind of magic happens. (After all, it's short – only 78 pages.)
Yes 78 pages might be short but recently we got the coloured versions of Halo Jones all running in about 64 pages each. So lets keep on hoping for this.
I would really like a complete run of 'Sinister Dexter' to be collected in hardcover. Maybe one day...?
Quote from: Pyroxian on 10 August, 2018, 09:54:57 AM
Bradley
I have a slim GN of Bradley, I have not read it for some years but something with an Ice queen in it. Not sure if this is the only story but it is an entertaining read.
I always wonder why the shorter collections aren't combined or paired up. So say Firekind with Leatherjack or some such. Shadows with The Dead. Or you could mix it up and do a 'Flip' collection and get Shadows in with Firekind. Now that would be some read.
I'm guessing that odds and sods trade which had Tribal Memories and the first Universal Soldier didn't do too well as it's never been followed up.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 10 August, 2018, 04:47:40 PM
I'm guessing that odds and sods trade which had Tribal Memories and the first Universal Soldier didn't do too well as it's never been followed up.
And that's a shame, 'cos
Sci-Fi Thrillers also hoovered up some great stuff like Maze Dumoir, Family and XTNCT... but then it was bulked out with some pretty weak pish like Colony Earth, which seems odd when it
could have included Firekind (although I've just realised all the other stuff is B&W).
Didn't realise Family and XTNCT were in there. That's a fine collection!
A Milligan collection could be interesting. We're getting one in the Hachette collection, but that's, what Hewligan's Haircut (44p) and Sooner or Later (39). Even if Swifty's Return's in there, that's a total of 99 strip pages – under half the requirement. So what else might make it? The Dead is 49 pages. Tribal Memories is only 21. Shadows is 53. Freaks is 30. It strikes me that you could feasibly have a single blow-out Milligan volume in the UC that contained the vast majority of that – here's hoping. (I'd certainly upgrade my paperback HH for that.)
As for combined collections, I suspect they're a tough sell. But as I've said elsewhere, Leatherjack/Firekind would be an obvious one for the UC, not least given that the repro already exists.
Was Revere ever collected in any format ?
Just the Extreme Edition.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 August, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
Freaks is 30.
Don't forget
Faces (I assume that was also written by Milligan).
Quote from: sheridan on 10 August, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 August, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
Freaks is 30.
Don't forget Faces (I assume that was also written by Milligan).
Faces was a John Higgins
* joint.
* With Mindy Newell (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=FREAKS)
I've never laid eyes on an episode of Shadows. Get on it, Tharg!
There's a bunch of stuff in the Extreme Editions that honestly its about time got proper collections or rereprinted in a Meg Floppy. At least to get it in a digital format.
Bad City Blue, The Dead, Firekind, Reaver, Armoured Gideon, has Cinnabar ever been reprinted?
Also, can a brother PLEASE get a digital release of the first Lobster Random series, that damn Hardcover has prevented it from getting reprinted for far too long.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 11 August, 2018, 05:19:57 AM
There's a bunch of stuff in the Extreme Editions that honestly its about time got proper collections or rereprinted in a Meg Floppy. At least to get it in a digital format.
Bad City Blue, The Dead, Firekind, Reaver, Armoured Gideon, has Cinnabar ever been reprinted?
Also, can a brother PLEASE get a digital release of the first Lobster Random series, that damn Hardcover has prevented it from getting reprinted for far too long.
Cinnabar was collected in "Rogue Trooper Tales of Nu-Earth Vol 4".
Quote from: The Adventurer on 11 August, 2018, 05:19:57 AM
There's a bunch of stuff in the Extreme Editions that honestly its about time got proper collections or rereprinted in a Meg Floppy. At least to get it in a digital format.
Bad City Blue, The Dead, Firekind, Reaver, Armoured Gideon, has Cinnabar ever been reprinted?
Also, can a brother PLEASE get a digital release of the first Lobster Random series, that damn Hardcover has prevented it from getting reprinted for far too long.
Here is some of the stuff that has been published as floppies:
Meg Series Publication No278 Cannon Fodder
291 Cannon Fodder
329 Finn
338 Night Zero
340 Beyond Zero
342 Lobster Random 2000AD 1411-1419
353 Lobster Random 2000AD 1482-1490
361 Finn
362 The Vort 2000AD 1589-1596
362 Lobster Random 2000AD 1601-1603
363 Lobster Random 2000AD 1604-1610
364 Freaks
365 Faces
387 The Lawless Touch Tornado
391 Wagner's Walk Tornado
392 Wagner's Walk Tornado
397 Lofty's One-Man Luftwaffe Battle
Another vote for Armoured Gideon. I've recently been rereading it and all those full page splash panels are beautiful (and bonkers)!
Indulging in a broad-spectrum Strontium Dog re-read recently, I dug into the Tales from the Doghouse Meg floppy, and I was just bowled over by Jacobs' art. Talk about an original style! I really didn't appreciate him enough at the time (possibly because I wasn't really loving Inspector Raam or TftDH as stories). So yeah, some AG floppies at the very least would be nice.
Bloodfang, from Eagle. (Bloodthirsty dinosaur action by Wagner.)
Quote from: broodblik on 11 August, 2018, 05:33:47 AM
Cinnabar was collected in "Rogue Trooper Tales of Nu-Earth Vol 4".
And is reprinted in M4.16-M4.18, and X15.
Quote from: Richard on 13 August, 2018, 11:45:03 PM
Bloodfang, from Eagle. (Bloodthirsty dinosaur action by Wagner.)
I don't think this will happen if I am correct all the new Eagle stuff is owned by The Dan Dare corporation (hence the lack of any of these titles being reprinted).
Junker from the late Michael Fleisher. I know that many do not like this but I have certain degree of fetish (or a case of my eyes loving the story more than my brain did) for this story
I'd like to see Helltrekkers in a version I could purchase. It's in the Dredd Mega Collections, but you can only get those off of ebay here in the states.
Quote from: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 August, 2018, 03:45:58 PM
I'd like to see Helltrekkers in a version I could purchase. It's in the Dredd Mega Collections, but you can only get those off of ebay here in the states.
It was collected in Meg #218-223 (they are available digitally)
Quote from: SpaceSpinner2000 on 14 August, 2018, 03:45:58 PM
I'd like to see Helltrekkers in a version I could purchase. It's in the Dredd Mega Collections, but you can only get those off of ebay here in the states.
..And it's bundled with some pretty dire stories in that edition, too!
I'd like to see Middenface: Wan Man an' his Dug by Alan Grant, Tony Luke & John McCrea collected. It's 62 pages, which is the perfect length for a Megazine supplement. Not sure why it's never been reprinted, perhaps the memory cheats There's certainly enough latter day Middenface stories from the Meg to fill a book...
(https://i.imgur.com/8dQtsIP.png)
Helltrekkers made it onto Tharg's list of the 16 worst stories ever to appear in 2000AD (in a special in the prog's 16th year).
Quote from: Richard on 14 August, 2018, 06:52:34 PM
Helltrekkers made it onto Tharg's list of the 16 worst stories ever to appear in 2000AD (in a special in the prog's 16th year).
Haha, I don't know about that. I find it to be delightfully depressing!
Quote from: Richard on 14 August, 2018, 06:52:34 PM
Helltrekkers made it onto Tharg's list of the 16 worst stories ever to appear in 2000AD (in a special in the prog's 16th year).
That incarnation of Tharg perhaps wasn't considering the influence that story has had and continues to have. Helltrekkers have turned up in countless (well, I'm not going to count them, anyway) stories since. It's almost a Cursed Earth cliche now that you would happen upon a busted up rad-wagon where some hapless Helltrekkers have met their end underestimating the dangers of the Cursed Earth.
Plus, I was one of the readers that just enjoyed Helltrekkers on its own merits. It was sort of a post-apocalyptic Waltons.
"Night, Jim-bob!"
"Aaaarrrrgghh!"
Also being immersed in the 2000ad's 16th year as I currently am in my re-read its fair to say what is demned as cool and worth while to the editorial team of that time might not hold too much credance today!
Yes the concept of Helltrekkers is a good one and I can understand them turning up in Dredd from time to time.
That doesn't necessarily mean the original story was a good read. I can certainly understand it being high up on a list of all time worst 2000AD series.
Quote from: Richard on 14 August, 2018, 06:52:34 PM
Helltrekkers made it onto Tharg's list of the 16 worst stories ever to appear in 2000AD (in a special in the prog's 16th year).
I remember that, and it seemed ridiculous at the time. Nothing really wrong with Helltrekkers other than a lack of originality: grim, silly, great art. Plus I used it as a handy source of D&D NPCs and on-the-road situations, so it gets a pass from me.
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Quote from: Richard on 14 August, 2018, 06:52:34 PM
Helltrekkers made it onto Tharg's list of the 16 worst stories ever to appear in 2000AD (in a special in the prog's 16th year).
I remember that, and it seemed ridiculous at the time. Nothing really wrong with Helltrekkers other than a lack of originality: grim, silly, great art. Plus I used it as a handy source of D&D NPCs and on-the-road situations, so it gets a pass from me.
There's an idea - I'll have to mine it for D&D encounters and characters!
p.s. regarding that list of the worst stories - I thoroughly disagreed with most of what was on there - it's a wonder I stuck with the prog with editorial being so disrespectful of some of the highlights (it explains many of the lowlights of the nineties though).
What was that 'worst series' list printed in? I can't for the life of me find it.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 17 August, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
What was that 'worst series' list printed in? I can't for the life of me find it.
It must have been an annual / yearbook / summer/winter special, but wouldn't be able to tell you offhand which one - shall hit the internet and see if there are any clues...
Quote from: sheridan on 17 August, 2018, 12:37:37 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 17 August, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
What was that 'worst series' list printed in? I can't for the life of me find it.
It must have been an annual / yearbook / summer/winter special, but wouldn't be able to tell you offhand which one - shall hit the internet and see if there are any clues...
None yet - Barney is only really interested in stories (can't blame him!) and a few more general comics databases aren't complete on our niche of the worldwide comic scene. There's nothing else for it, I'll have to hit the boxes of specials tonight.
I remember it vaguely, but had a quick scan through some digital copies (my print specials/annuals currently being behind a small wall of boxes), and couldn't find it. Frustrating! I was curious to know what else was in the mix.
I'd be up for a Jim McCarthy based floppy that collected the Grudge Father(s) and Kid Cyborg.
And a Shaky 2000 with the two Soul Gun stories plus as many other oddities as he put out.
Noble failures they may be, but the nobility has to be worth some kind of airing.
Probably not actually better than much of the Treasury that I've never seen before!
I've looked bloody everywhere for that worst stories feature and I can't find it. Annoying!
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Quote from: IndigoPrime on 17 August, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
What was that 'worst series' list printed in? I can't for the life of me find it.
It must have been an annual / yearbook / summer/winter special, but wouldn't be able to tell you offhand which one - shall hit the internet and see if there are any clues...
Possibly that Dredd special with the Chickenman on the cover? It stands out as I was known as 'Chickenman' at the time.
I think you must be right. That was the Complete Judge Dredd Special Edition 1994, or it may have been the 1995 issue. There were also a couple of Best of 2000AD Special Editions, starting in 1993, which was 2000AD's 16th year. I no longer have any of them, as they are entirely reprint -- except for the features! D'oh!
Barney:
http://2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=specials&choice=BOJD1994
Quote from: Richard on 26 August, 2018, 03:49:49 PM
I think you must be right. That was the Complete Judge Dredd Special Edition 1994, or it may have been the 1995 issue. There were also a couple of Best of 2000AD Special Editions, starting in 1993, which was 2000AD's 16th year. I no longer have any of them, as they are entirely reprint -- except for the features! D'oh!
Barney:
http://2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=specials&choice=BOJD1994
1993, the one with the McMahon cover (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=specials&choice=BO2K1993):
https://i.imgur.com/Kj1CWmd.png
https://i.imgur.com/jH7REBE.png
Brilliant, well done Richard and Sauchie!
That Special was one of the very few comics I've ever bought purely for the cover, since I think I already had all the strip content.
Thanks Frank
Helltrekkers on a "worst of" list? Well, I guess this was before Space Girls, Valkyries, or whatevs, but even so...
For years I was haunted by that image of that poor devil melting in acid rain, and wondering what happened to Crusty. There's a probably a Zarjaz strip somewhere showing the Angel Gang eating an oversized crab.
It amused me while reading this that Mike Butcher predicted (sort of) that Vinnie Jones would end up in the X-Men films.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 26 August, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
There's a probably a Zarjaz strip somewhere showing the Angel Gang eating an oversized crab.
I could have sworn there was a "Whatever happened to Crustacia Glemp?" strip in the Meg, but Barney sez "no!". Most likely option would be for a giant armoured monster emerging from a lake to threaten the New Territoires (assuming they weren't wiped out during Judgement Day... hey, maybe it was Crustacia that saved them!).
Quote from: Professor Bear on 26 August, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Helltrekkers on a "worst of" list? Well, I guess this was before Space Girls, Valkyries, or whatevs, but even so...
Butcher wrote this* in
1993:
The year Millar showed TB Grover how it was really done by turning Robohunter into the mirthless action shooter it was always supposed to be
Feral's search for a single reason the Strontium Dogs strip should exist led to the revelation that even the talking corpse of Johnny Alpha was a more charismatic presence than him
Pat Mills made his first unsuccessful attempt to reboot Flesh with a sexy female lead
It occurred to Pete Milligan that Bad Company being dead was no reason not to write a story featuring them
Judge Dredd punched the Mummy, fought a Scotsman with robot bagpipes for 20 weeks, and Frankenstein Division replaced The Apocalypse War as the epic all others had to follow
And fledgling editor Alan McKenzie gave a start to three promising new talents - Alan McKenzie (Brigand Doom), Alan McKenzie (Bradley's Storybook), and Alan McKenzie (Kelly's Eye) - and tasked safe pair of hands Alan McKenzie with the Mean Arena reboot fans had been demanding.* To be fair, this was probably an old feature Tharg had commissioned but never used. Top marks to editorial for having the self-awareness to realise 1993 was the last year the article could have run without needing to be extensively updated with material they'd commissioned (and written).
Thanks, Frank. Natch, they were the only bloody specials I forgot about. So the list is: Angel; Wolfie Smith; Rick Random; Ant Wars; Black Hawk; Colony Earth; Disaster 1990; Hell Trekkers; Time Quake; Shako. I've not actually read all of those, despite having a complete set of 2000 AD. But I'd be hard pressed to put Ant Wars, Shako, Hell Trekkers and Black Hawk into a 'worst 10' of my own.
So! Time to have a go. Of those series I have read, in alphabetical order, these are the bottom of my own personal 2000 AD barrel:
Angel; Babe Race 2000; Big Dave; Dry Run; Harlem Heroes 1990 reboot; Junker; The Grudge Father; The Spacegirls; Urban Strike; Wireheads.
(Harlem Heroes to my mind is distinct enough from the original to be considered a standalone strip, much like Disaster 1990 isn't Invasion in the original feature. If not, sorry, Pat, but Dinosty is my not-so-super-sub.)
What's actually quite nice in going through the above is there are an awful lot of stories I haven't cared for that much, but that nonetheless have redeeming features. Mostly, that's artwork (e.g. Trash); sometimes, it's manic energy (Bradley); occasionally, it's just enough good (if not necessarily original) ideas that just make it worth sticking with to some degree (Silo), even if I never want to see a reprint. But over 2000 AD's history, it's nice to see for my own personal tastes that there's been relatively little out and out crap in terms of entire series (even if individual series can be wildly variable).
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 26 August, 2018, 07:20:30 PM
Angel; Babe Race 2000; Big Dave; Dry Run; Harlem Heroes 1990 reboot; Junker; The Grudge Father; The Spacegirls; Urban Strike; Wireheads.
Most of the ones you mentioned I have not read but Big Dave for me is certainly the worst ever. I also had a big dislike in The Clown. Junker :-[ I enjoyed and would like it to be collected. I agree what you are saying about Trash and Bradley.
Big Dave was always reprehensible and abhorrent – like a child trying to write satire but just punching down and being offensive. A waste of Parkhouse's talents.
Mother Earth and Valkyries were also fucking terrible. I can't give any series a pass for 'nice art', otherwise we have to let Book of the Dead off the hook as worst Dredd epic ever...
I'm conflicted on Big Dave... I agree it was a poor fit for 2000AD, I agree about all the criticisms of its failings in the writing, but I sort of see what they were trying to do. I think it ended up being too much of the thing it was trying to parody, but I'd rather 2000AD tried the odd thing that's way outside its usual remit and fail than never try at all. For every I Was A Teenage Tax Accountant, there's a Button Man.
Not to mention Sooner or Later, which didn't even have the proper number of pages. I enjoyed Big Dave for all its out-of-place oddness; it drew in a couple of friends who otherwise wouldn't have read the prog at all.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 August, 2018, 11:23:14 PM
I'm conflicted on Big Dave... I agree it was a poor fit for 2000AD, I agree about all the criticisms of its failings in the writing, but I sort of see what they were trying to do. I think it ended up being too much of the thing it was trying to parody, but I'd rather 2000AD tried the odd thing that's way outside its usual remit and fail than never try at all. For every I Was A Teenage Tax Accountant, there's a Button Man.
Very true what you are saying about 2000AD trying something different.
I'm happy for 2000 AD to try something new and different, but Big Dave was an abject failure if it was trying to satirise things like The Sun and thuggish elements in society. Instead, it just *was* those things, yelling "poof!" and such with merry abandon. When you look at this through the framework of much else Millar wrote at the time (note how many villains are not straight and are played up for being traitorous and 'other'), it even manages to come across worse in that area. But in general, it misses the target almost every time, thinks it's clever, and just punches downwards. It's the modern-day Ricky Gervais of 2000 AD's back catalogue.
Mother Earth almost made my list. Valkyries: I've definitely read that but can't rmember a thing about it. I've a sneaking suspicion that may have made my list had I been able to recall anything about the strip.
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Quote from: Richard on 14 August, 2018, 06:52:34 PM
Helltrekkers made it onto Tharg's list of the 16 worst stories ever to appear in 2000AD (in a special in the prog's 16th year).
Haha, I don't know about that. I find it to be delightfully depressing!
Tell me about it!
There's a good essay about Big Dave and poorly-satirised homophobia in Mark Millar's work at Sequart.org (this is actually the last of several chapters dealing with Big Dave; there's a link to the previous parts at the top of the article if you're interested in the rest):
http://sequart.org/magazine/30320/two-tickets-for-my-next-performance-mark-millar-shameless-part-32/
I must admit the humour in Big Dave landed as intended for me in the panels I've seen. In that article 'Parachutes are for poofs' made me chuckle :D. Is there a good place to get or read them?
Quote from: GrudgeJohnDeed on 27 August, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Is there a good place to get or read them?
As far as I (and Barney (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=bigdave)) know,
Big Dave has never been reprinted. Barney lists it as one of the few strips Tharg's published that's owned by its creators ...
(https://i.imgur.com/o9ZUTt2.png?2)
... so presumably, it hasn't been reprinted because Mark Millar and/or Grant Morrison and/or Steve Parkhouse don't want it to be reprinted.
IIRC, all rights to Big Dave were returned to the original creators. There was some talk of it moving/being reprint/continued by Select music magazine in the late 90s, not sure if that ever happened.
Select editor Andrew Harrison has no recollection of any plans to publish Big Dave. Grant Morrison tells stories.
Comic fan Harrison did manage to sneak pretend interviews with both Big Dave and Zenith into the pages of everyone's favourite mixtape with a magazine attached:
https://sites.google.com/a/deepspacetransmissions.com/site/news-1/itwasthe90s-grantmorrisoninselectmagazine
Everyone should listen to Harrison's excellent pop culture podcast, Bigmouth (https://audioboom.com/channel/bigmouth).
Big Dave reprint is something I hope never happens.
Zenith is owned by Rebellion not Morrison if I am correct ?
Yes, Zenith is owned by Rebellion.
Quote from: Frank on 27 August, 2018, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: GrudgeJohnDeed on 27 August, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Is there a good place to get or read them?
As far as I (and Barney (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=bigdave)) know, Big Dave has never been reprinted. Barney lists it as one of the few strips Tharg's published that's owned by its creators ...
(https://i.imgur.com/o9ZUTt2.png?2)
... so presumably, it hasn't been reprinted because Mark Millar and/or Grant Morrison and/or Steve Parkhouse don't want it to be reprinted.
I think Barney is now out of date, because wasn't Scarlet Traces bought by Rebellion (though sequels are still done by the original creative team)?
Which reminds me, any chance of more Demon Nic? Really enjoyed that, a treat on every level.
And why do I have no memory of Apocalypse Soon?
Quote from: TordelBack on 27 August, 2018, 08:42:58 PM
Which reminds me, any chance of more Demon Nic? Really enjoyed that, a treat on every level.
I'd go with that, or even more Mudman as Paul Grist has been promising for YEARS now!
Quote from: TordelBack on 27 August, 2018, 08:42:58 PM
And why do I have no memory of Apocalypse Soon?
One page out of 100, back in 2003. I didn't have it in my memory banks either. Unfunny four horsemen hanging around at a bar.
Quote from: Frank on 27 August, 2018, 06:11:21 PM
... so presumably, it hasn't been reprinted because Mark Millar and/or Grant Morrison and/or Steve Parkhouse don't want it to be reprinted.
I guess it might be very 'of a time' to them. Like how some of the makers of Conker's Bad Fur Day (the puerile n64 romp) who were young at the time are pretty embarrassed by it now, and that game is actually still held in high regard unlike Big Dave. I'm making attempts at humour in a game I'm working on currently and I cringe at it
as I write it :D
whats the chances of getting a complete finn?
Quote from: rs_jr on 30 October, 2018, 07:56:51 AM
whats the chances of getting a complete finn?
If Uncle Pat had his way then there'd be a new series of Finn (he's on record as saying that the management of the time didn't want further series despite it being popular - not sure why there isn't more under the current owners)
Quote from: GrudgeJohnDeed on 28 August, 2018, 02:32:06 AM
Quote from: Frank on 27 August, 2018, 06:11:21 PM
... so presumably, it hasn't been reprinted because Mark Millar and/or Grant Morrison and/or Steve Parkhouse don't want it to be reprinted.
I guess it might be very 'of a time' to them. Like how some of the makers of Conker's Bad Fur Day (the puerile n64 romp) who were young at the time are pretty embarrassed by it now, and that game is actually still held in high regard unlike Big Dave. I'm making attempts at humour in a game I'm working on currently and I cringe at it as I write it :D
Never heard of Conker's Bad Fur Day before, but apparently it was included on a compilation three years ago.
"Conker's Bad Fur Day is also included as part of the Rare Replay compilation for Xbox One. The compilation was released on August 4, 2015."
Quote from: Frank on 27 August, 2018, 06:11:21 PM
... so presumably, it hasn't been reprinted because Mark Millar and/or Grant Morrison and/or Steve Parkhouse don't want it to be reprinted.
Most likely no Publisher has thought that there's much of a market for it.
To put it in perspective, it wasn't like at the height of Grant's popularity ("Arkham" 1989 - "Superman" 2008) DC went shopping for Zenith. It took Rebellion to break the legal embargo in 2013
Quote from: rs_jr on 30 October, 2018, 07:56:51 AM
whats the chances of getting a complete finn?
Does Pat Mills own Finn? Given that the character first appeared in Crisis?
Quote from: CalHab on 30 October, 2018, 02:52:12 PM
Quote from: rs_jr on 30 October, 2018, 07:56:51 AM
whats the chances of getting a complete finn?
Does Pat Mills own Finn? Given that the character first appeared in Crisis?
Crisis strips weren't creator-owned*
Mills says Tharg told him other reprints had priority over
Finn. Mills mentioned this with reference to the news that Tharg had just bought the rights to reprint a
century's worth of comics.
* GARTH ENNIS: 'A deal had been worked out whereby the rights to Troubled Souls, which was the very first thing I ever did for comics and did for Crisis, were available. Rebellion bought them from Fleetway and agreed to return them to me in return for a twelve-episode Dredd strip. And that was essentially it.
Obviously, I have no desire for Troubled Souls ever to see print again. But buried within Troubled Souls are the first appearances of Dougie and Ivor, who would go on to become the Dicks. They're my all-time favourites characters of any that I've written, whether my own or somebody else's. To get a chance to write them again, to get them back into print, to get Johnny McCrea and I back to doing what amounts to our favourite work was too good an opportunity to ignore'.
http://viciousimagery.blogspot.com/2007/02/28-days-of-2000-ad-181-garth-ennis-pt.html
Hasn't Finn already had a complete re-print, albeit it in a series of floppies rather than as a TPB?
Quote from: Frank on 30 October, 2018, 07:13:42 PM
Crisis strips weren't creator-owned*
Huh. I thought they were. I assume Morrison and Yeowell own The New Adventures of Adolf Hitler, given that it appeared elsewhere first and caused a hue and cry?
Quote from: CalHab on 30 October, 2018, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: Frank on 30 October, 2018, 07:13:42 PM
Crisis strips weren't creator-owned*
Huh. I thought they were. I assume Morrison and Yeowell own The New Adventures of Adolf Hitler, given that it appeared elsewhere first and caused a hue and cry?
You're Kane-ing with that final comment.
Only the first two series of Finn were reprinted, although they are the best two. The subsequent stories have never been reprinted, but I don't mind.
Finn first appeared in Third World War (book 1), by Mills and Ezquerra. Now that (http://that) deserves reprinting.
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Quote from: CalHab on 30 October, 2018, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: Frank on 30 October, 2018, 07:13:42 PM
Crisis strips weren't creator-owned*
Huh. I thought they were. I assume Morrison and Yeowell own The New Adventures of Adolf Hitler, given that it appeared elsewhere first and caused a hue and cry?
You're Kane-ing with that final comment.
I've formed a club for everyone who fully understands why that's funny and clever. Struggling with the adjectival component of the name -
Fantastic and
Fab are already taken.
It was funny and clever and then you explained it ... :crazy:
Quote from: Fungus on 30 October, 2018, 09:29:44 PM
It was funny and clever and then you explained it ... :crazy:
Nah, that's not the clever part (https://sites.google.com/a/deepspacetransmissions.com/site/news-1/thesavageswordofgrantmorrison-patkanevsthenewadventuresofhitler).
Quote from: Frank on 30 October, 2018, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Fungus on 30 October, 2018, 09:29:44 PM
It was funny and clever and then you explained it ... :crazy:
Nah, that's not the clever part (https://sites.google.com/a/deepspacetransmissions.com/site/news-1/thesavageswordofgrantmorrison-patkanevsthenewadventuresofhitler).
Thing is, I have that issue of Cut and remember it well. Suppose I liked the obliqueness of the pun so much I hoped it would remain unexplained. Ach.
Quote from: Richard on 30 October, 2018, 09:12:01 PM
Now [url-http://that]that[/url] deserves reprinting.
You're messing with my mind.
It was awesome!