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Title: Sad songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 10 June, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
Inspired by Leigh S

What do you peeps consider to be the saddest song?

Not a fan of the band but I think Brick by Ben Folds Five is pretty sad.

http://youtu.be/Wt5EHAqhR1c (http://youtu.be/Wt5EHAqhR1c)
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: ZenArcade on 10 June, 2014, 10:10:18 PM
The Mary Chain: you trip me up always made me a wee bit sad. Z
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 12:14:37 AM
Oooh - probably the first time i ever inspired something!

I'm known for my love of a good sad song - I always make a "now thats what I call the Samaritans" compilation every couple of years or so... need to update it though... While the Lengths would be up there and always included. i'm sure I could throw a few more into the ring! :),
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Professor Bear on 11 June, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
I've always found The Streets' Dry Your Eyes to be an effectively blunt bit of post-pub melancholy even if I can do without anything else he/they've done.  Likewise Tori Amos' Winter always makes me sad, but fuck only knows what it's about as the woman's wired to the moon - ditto China, also from her Little Earthquakes album which I quite like as I'm not old or middle class enough to like Kate Bush.

Almost all of Johnny Cash's American 4 album is pure class as he knew he wasn't long for his accounting by then and the songs about death and the wages of sin seemed to offer more agency (Trent Reznor has even gone on record as saying he considers the deeply personal Hurt to now be a Johnny Cash song), but this "cover" Cash did with his wife back in the 1990s before their health began to fail always gets me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPc8ahc7iI

Also try and have a listen to the Beach Boys' A Day In the Life of a Tree if you can find it, and keep telling yourself that yes, they were totally serious.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 June, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
The very existence of Tori Amos makes me sad.  :'(
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: TordelBack on 11 June, 2014, 08:21:00 AM
Tom Wait's 'Martha' always gets me.  Although this can be offset by remembering that he was all of 23 when he wrote it.

But yeah, the Cash version of 'Hurt', while by now a cliche, is just superbly moving.  His cover of 'We'll Meet Again' from the same album is also remarkably powerful.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: NapalmKev on 11 June, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
Radiohead with this absolutely beautiful and powerful song.

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=RByvzmmEFiQ

Cheers
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 09:07:05 AM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 11 June, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
The very existence of Tori Amos makes me sad.  :'(

Oi! I've already defended my dodgy music taste once this week.. can't make a habit of it... Saddest tori songs are mostly on Boys For Pele (my favourite album ever) - or are B-sides from (or written) around that time...

http://youtu.be/gSIty6Reils

This is cooling faster than I can...
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
http://youtu.be/mu9gbEf3aPQ

Most recent sad song supremo...
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: TordelBack on 11 June, 2014, 10:19:22 AM
Quote from: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
http://youtu.be/mu9gbEf3aPQ

Most recent sad song supremo...

I like the way she has had her misery-snot immortalised in a piercing.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 10:47:04 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 11 June, 2014, 10:19:22 AM
Quote from: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
http://youtu.be/mu9gbEf3aPQ

Most recent sad song supremo...

I like the way she has had her misery-snot immortalised in a piercing.

Yes! Very odd piercing that... not quite as weird as those big hole in yer ears things - what is THAT all about??
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: TordelBack on 11 June, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
Uh-oh, that ominous clanking sound is the cyborg pierced forum contingent coming to take us for some pointy re-education...
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 10:54:18 AM
http://youtu.be/mQ_o7NonpPo

Favourite Tim Buckley sad song... where my sad song obsession started I think...
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 June, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
We may bunker down on this thread....a personal accentuation discussion is rearing its head! Z
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 June, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Guess there are times when we all need to share a little pain
And ironing out the rough spots
Is the hardest part when memories remain
And it's times like these when we all need to hear the radio
`Cause from the lips of some old singer
We can share the troubles we already know

Turn them on, turn them on
Turn on those sad songs
When all hope is gone
Why don't you tune in and turn them on

They reach into your room
Just feel their gentle touch
When all hope is gone
Sad songs say so much

If someone else is suffering enough to write it down
When every single word makes sense
Then it's easier to have those songs around
The kick inside is in the line that finally gets to you
and it feels so good to hurt so bad
And suffer just enough to sing the blues

Sad songs, they say
Sad songs, they say
Sad songs, they say
Sad songs, they say so much


(I miss Roger)
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Teivion on 11 June, 2014, 01:13:38 PM
Duran Duran, Ordinary World....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDLiVwpv89s

PSB- Later Tonight;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0FKmNhGCw

Erasure-
Where were You?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5fH9PdUpo

Home For Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_XumB0fezY
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Recrewt on 11 June, 2014, 02:00:52 PM
I think the saddest songs are those that relate to real-life tragedy.

Johnny Cash's Hurt has already been mentioned but its hard not to be moved by it when you know how long he had left.  A lot of Nirvana's Unplugged album also has the same impact.  The Unplugged album wasn't released until after Kurt's death so songs like 'Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam' have extra impact.

Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 June, 2014, 02:31:40 PM
Suzanne Vega's Luka is also quite poigniant.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 03:06:42 PM
Love the Queen and the Soldier for a Ms Vega sad song...
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 June, 2014, 03:40:04 PM
If you want not so much "sad" but bleak and depressing, you can't do much better than Richard & Linda Thompson's "End of the Rainbow" - the title track is a father singing to his infant son that "there's nothing at the end of the rainbow, nothing to grow up for anymore"* and it also features tracks with uplifting titles such as "withered and died". He once described that period as " 'adrift-alone-in-the-Atlantic-with-only-a-squeezy-bottle-to-cling-to' kind of music"

*check full lyrics here (http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-end-of-the-rainbow-lyrics-richard-thompson.html)
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 04:09:44 PM
Bleak you say..?


http://youtu.be/1LTiKJlB62g
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Frank on 11 June, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 11 June, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
Sad songs, they say
Sad songs, they say
Sad songs, they say
Sad songs, they say so much


(I miss Roger)

I can think of another half dozen drippy and miserable tunes which actually glory in the name Sad Song. They're all uniformly awful, and useless for any purpose other than providing the background muzak in Errol Raine's Dankendreer sweet shop.

Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 11 June, 2014, 05:55:26 PM
Quote from: sauchie X on 11 June, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
I can think of another half dozen drippy and miserable tunes which actually glory in the name Sad Song. They're all uniformly awful, and useless for any purpose other than providing the background muzak in Errol Raine's Dankendreer sweet shop.

I can think of at least one that ain't (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE_LAwZc9VI) :D
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: paddykafka on 12 June, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
Treated myself to a taxi into work this morning. On the radio, some sad cunt is singing "All by Myself ! " with the same, desperate level of emotion as I feel when opening my Electricity bill. Just the start to the day that a lonely, middle-aged batchelor needs, lol.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 12 June, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 03:06:42 PM
Love the Queen and the Soldier for a Ms Vega sad song...

Oh god, I love that one!  I'm not usually into sad songs, preferring hard, fast, empowering metal and suchlike.  However, I love Ms Vega.

When I saw her at a gig in Newport, Wales, about 25 years ago I was sat at the front.  Between songs I called out to her 'Please play Queen and the Soldier!'  She looked right at me, smiled, and said 'No.'


I will also admit to a soft spot for Simon and Garfunkel.  'I am a Rock' always reminds me of my difficult teens, and makes me melancholy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlSVNxLB-A

A winter's day
In a deep and dark December;
I am alone,
Gazing from my window to the streets below
On a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

I've built walls,
A fortress deep and mighty,
That none may penetrate.
I have no need of friendship; friendship causes pain.
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

Don't talk of love,
But I've heard the words before;
It's sleeping in my memory.
I won't disturb the slumber of feelings that have died.
If I never loved I never would have cried.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

I have my books
And my poetry to protect me;
I am shielded in my armor,
Hiding in my room, safe within my womb.
I touch no one and no one touches me.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

And a rock feels no pain;
And an island never cries.



Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: NapalmKev on 12 June, 2014, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 12 June, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 11 June, 2014, 03:06:42 PM
Love the Queen and the Soldier for a Ms Vega sad song...

Oh god, I love that one!  I'm not usually into sad songs, preferring hard, fast, empowering metal and suchlike.  However, I love Ms Vega.

When I saw her at a gig in Newport, Wales, about 25 years ago I was sat at the front.  Between songs I called out to her 'Please play Queen and the Soldier!'  She looked right at me, smiled, and said 'No.'


I will also admit to a soft spot for Simon and Garfunkel.  'I am a Rock' always reminds me of my difficult teens, and makes me melancholy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlSVNxLB-A

A winter's day
In a deep and dark December;
I am alone,
Gazing from my window to the streets below
On a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

I've built walls,
A fortress deep and mighty,
That none may penetrate.
I have no need of friendship; friendship causes pain.
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

Don't talk of love,
But I've heard the words before;
It's sleeping in my memory.
I won't disturb the slumber of feelings that have died.
If I never loved I never would have cried.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

I have my books
And my poetry to protect me;
I am shielded in my armor,
Hiding in my room, safe within my womb.
I touch no one and no one touches me.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

And a rock feels no pain;
And an island never cries.

Amazing song from one of my favorite albums. And like yourself, I usually favor ultra fast metal.

Cheers
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: 8-Ball on 12 June, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
This song makes me sad. It was never off the radio when I broke up with my first ever proper girlfriend when I was 14.

http://youtu.be/_ehhhJOPvLE (http://youtu.be/_ehhhJOPvLE)

:'(
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 16 June, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
I'm absolutely fine with THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG5X4kOjEX8) as long as I don't listen to the lyrics.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: SuperSurfer on 17 June, 2014, 02:25:23 AM
This takes me back to long hot summer evenings in the 80s. It conjures up a scene of family life. A full house, everyone winding down, getting ready to sign off for the night, my late father lying on bed reading and BBC Arena on TV with theme music 'Another Green World' by Brian Eno. (Took me years to find out it was an Eno track.)

Only 1:42 mins long. Drifts in and out.

Days gone by.

Man...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/bbcmusic/2010/02/brian_eno_and_the_arena_bottle.html
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 17 June, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
It's amazing how subjective sad songs are - happy songs are understandable I think, even if they're evocative there must be something in them that's capable of making you grin. Sir Duke (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sIjSNTS7Fs) is one of those - that beginning flips me out and even now with a severe chest infection I'm croaking along.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: atp on 17 June, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
I'm not an Elvis fan as such but--- Don't Cry Daddy & In The Ghetto.

"Don't Cry Daddy"

Today I stumbled from my bed
With thunder crashing in my head
My pillow still wet
From last night tears
And as I think of giving up
A voice inside my coffee-cup
Kept crying but
And ringing in my ears

Don't cry daddy
Daddy, please don't cry
Daddy, you've still got me and little Tommy
Together we'll find a brand new mommy
Daddy, daddy, please laugh again
Daddy ride us on your back again
Oh, daddy, please don't cry

Why are children always first
To feel the pain and hurt the worst
It's true, but somehow
It just don't seem right
'Cause ev'ry time I cry I know
It hurts my little children so
I wonder will it be the same tonight

Don't cry daddy
Daddy, please don't cry
Daddy, you've still got me and little Tommy
Together we'll find a brand new mommy
Daddy, daddy, please laugh again
Daddy ride us on your back again
Oh, daddy, please don't cry
Oh, daddy, please don't cry

"In The Ghetto"

As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
'cause if there's one thing that she don't need
it's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto

People, don't you understand
the child needs a helping hand
or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
are we too blind to see,
do we simply turn our heads
and look the other way

Well the world turns
and a hungry little boy with a runny nose
plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto

And his hunger burns
so he starts to roam the streets at night
and he learns how to steal
and he learns how to fight
In the ghetto

Then one night in desperation
a young man breaks away
He buys a gun, steals a car,
tries to run, but he don't get far
And his mama cries

As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man
face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto

As her young man dies,
on a cold and gray Chicago mornin',
another little baby child is born
In the ghetto
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Old Tankie on 17 June, 2014, 08:57:55 PM
The Jam - "English Rose"
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Mikey on 27 September, 2014, 02:48:31 PM
I've been accused of liking too many 'mournful aule dirges', and mostly songs don't make me sadder than I was already what with catharthis and stuff, but this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEpD5pj48qA) has a tendency to produce the tears.

M.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Skullmo on 30 September, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Sad songs ahhh - I have always found Stanley Holloway's Brahn Boots incredibly sad and shows how petty our cultural obsessions can be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeAfYTlA-ls

Billy Holiday's version of Gloomy Sunday I have always found very sad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUCyjDOlnPU

In a similar way Tom Waits' a Soldier's things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwC8ETa0pg

Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2014, 11:42:29 AM
Glen Campbell, You Might As Well Smile:  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_VkwU2-jKQ

Tori Amos, China: http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=RD7pEfCe1-KTw&v=7pEfCe1-KTw

Kate Bush, Moments Of pleasure: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pW5hjWVS3ho

Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
And how could I forget!

Led Zeppelin, Stairway To Heaven:  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q7Vr3yQYWQ&list=RD9Q7Vr3yQYWQ
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2014, 12:10:59 PM
And if this doesn't get the waterworks going, you're not human: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ0JGjKYVdU
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: TordelBack on 30 September, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
It occurs that the piece of music that strikes me as the saddest is Morricone's 'Gabriel's Oboe'* (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmax47l2hLU), from The Mission.  As with many of the above, this is contextual.  In the late '80s I lived in a lively work-shared house where one of the early-rising lads used to put on The Mission soundtrack as a gentle wake-up for the rest of us, and it was always a fairly pleasant if nostalgic association.  Some years later my favourite uncle died suddenly, and being short on transport for various infirm relatives my Dad (his baby brother) and I took his car to the funeral.  When the car was started, the tape player recommenced playing, right in the middle of Gabriel's Oboe.  It was desperately sad thinking he'd never hear that track to its end, and that powerful sense of life's pleasures cut short hits me every time I hear it. 




*Stop sniggering down the back.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Grugz on 30 September, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
not a song per se but "hymn to the fallen " by john Williams always gets me thinking of granddad and never fails to get me blubbing.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: auxlen on 18 October, 2014, 04:04:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_qPTyy4itI
The Smiths - Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcKGqgwLzjA
Joy Division - 08 - The Eternal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn6o5tiPds
Eric Carmen - All By Myself (1976)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bQGRRolrg0
Harry Nilsson - Without You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCdlX-5UjE
Forever Autumn - Justin Hayward

I can go on all day...in fact i might.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 18 November, 2014, 11:32:26 PM
Nothing Compares to You as sung by Sinead O'Connor. Overplayed, but haunting still.

Love of my Life, Queen

EDIT: The Winner Takes It All, Abba
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 18 November, 2014, 11:37:23 PM
Oh yeah, and this:-

90 seconds of sadness (http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Justin+Currie+In+The+Rain+%28Album+Version%29)

From an obscure Justin Currie (of Del Amitri) album
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: Fungus on 19 November, 2014, 12:02:42 AM
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 18 November, 2014, 11:37:23 PM
Oh yeah, and this:-

90 seconds of sadness (http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Justin+Currie+In+The+Rain+%28Album+Version%29)

From an obscure Justin Currie (of Del Amitri) album

Read criminally obscure. Top tunes and twisted lyrics across all his solo stuff.
Title: Re: Sad songs
Post by: von Boom on 19 November, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
I don't know if it's as much sad as terribly bleak:

One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgGTTtR0kc) - Metallica