Just read #1 of GRIP, published by Vertigo and written by Gilbert Hernandez of Love and Rockets fame.
It is so appalling as to be pretty much beyond human comprehension. Forget Pussyfoot 5. Forget the crap Future Shocks. This
is
crap. In fact it is so crap that it makes me well angry. Sales of this crappy little 5-issue comic are going to plummet at #2, but Vertigo are going to lick arse and bullshit about it just because it was written by the acclaimed Hernandez. (Love and Rockets wasn't that good anyway, and Gilbert is a stupid name. Stupider than scojo.) But bloody bastard Vertigo are packing in Outlaw Nation in a few months, just because sales are struggling a bit. Admittedly it's been going a bit crap lately, but it's a great comic and it was just getting back on track. If that was written by Gilbert Hernandez, comics legend, then they'd be falling over each other to try and get it printed fortnightly. Just because Jamie Delano doesn't get good reviews in the Guardian because he isn't crap.
Know what I mean?
Must buy it for Logan then.
scojo
Yep. Logan would probably like it, judging by the general shitness of him.
No comment.
scojo the coward
har har
>Yep. Logan would probably like it, judging by the general shitness of him.
Ah, the anonymity of the 2000AD message board, Death Monkey 23, and no obvious link to take this conversation of the board and do it by personal e-mail.
If Death Monkey 23 is someone I know, then I can live with that, being an ex-squaddie I?m used to this manly attempt to prove your heterosexuality and show how hard you are whilst having a few beers. If it?s not someone I know hiding behind the Death Monkey 23 name then if I ever meet you I will rip of your head and shit down the hole.
I?m perfectly comfortable with my sexuality and this isn?t late night bar banter so if you want a good laugh then at Comics 2002 say hello and tell me that you are Death Monkey 23. If you do it for a laugh then I apologise in advance for the damage I may inflict upon you, especially if I?ve had a couple of beers.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Link: The Class Of '79
I love men in a uniform if that helps, logan.
scojo
Death Monkey - ditch the unneccessary personal abuse (or at least take it to the chat-room).
Logan - stop waving your dick around and lay off the macho bullshit.
Behave!
Mk13
Death Monkey, the front cover of Grip clearly states "Suggested for mature readers". Why did you buy it?
Nathan - who is looking forward to no.2
Wow!
What next?
Pillow fights at dawn!
scojo
Hello there, Gabe Logan.
I did not mention your sexuality.
I just mentioned your shitness, due to your anti-peace march comment.
If you feel you have something to prove, we can continue down this road.
If your statement was ironic and i am dumb for not spotting this, please let me know.
Unless you're too chicken
The comic itself, the artwork, scripting and plot clearly states:
THIS COMIC IS SHIT.
DO NOT BUY IT ANYMORE OR YOU ARE A DICKHEAD.
So there.
'Death Monkey' said', " THIS COMIC IS SHIT. DO NOT BUY IT ANYMORE OR YOU ARE A DICKHEAD. ".
Like I said, it was intended for _mature_ readers.
N
At 13:04 18/11/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello there, Gabe Logan.
>I just mentioned your shitness, due to your anti-peace march comment.
>If you feel you have something to prove, we can continue down this road.
>If your statement was ironic and i am dumb for not spotting this, please let me know.
>Unless you[backslash]'re too chicken
So I see that you really are a man of peace 8-) I won't continue any comments that I do have on the message board, as I wouldn't want to bore anyone else with any further conversation that we may have.
My e-mail address is no secret so if you do have any further comments to make then please feel free to continue this away from the message board.
mailto://Logan@classof79.freeserve.co.uk
I look forward to hearing what other pearls of wisdom you may have.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Link: The Class Of '79
I hear Lennox Lewis won back his world championship belt last night.
He is looking for a new opponent.
Deathy or Logan?
You seem the ideal candidates!
scojo - using Don King's hair as a mop to clean the kitchen floor
It's not as bad as Amazing Spider-Man #36.
No, Nath, AGAIN you got it wrong. I didn't say the comic was shit, or that you are a - ahem - "dick head".
The comic, by its mere existence, states this. The comic is a statement - an indictment, if you will, that bullshit will supersede a good comic sales-wise, because the comics are bought by people like YOU, Nathan.
You make me sick.
Do you understand what I'm driving at? COME ON, MAN! PLEASE - JUST DON'T READ GRIP! FOR MY SAKE IF NOT YOURS, PLEASE BUY 2,000 ISSUES OF OUTLAW NATION INSTEAD! IT'S 2,000 TIMES BETTER THAN GRIP, AND IF EVERYONE DID THAT THEN IT WOULDN'T GET CANNED!
Death Monkey. You read a comic aimed at adults. You didn't like it. Other people did. Get over it.
SInce most people here probably haven't seen Grip, please email me privately if you want to continue this.
nathanmcg@hotmail.com
picked up grip on saturday but haven't had the opportunity to peruse it yet as ialso came across a copy of thomas m. disch's wonderful 1965 novel 'the genocides' on the same day, which has certainly washed away the bad taste left in my mouth by robert a. heinlein's 'orphans of the sky'. i'm fully aware of heinlein's paramount importance in the development of the sf field, but he's consistently the sole author whose work i've consistently found a burden to finish (with the exception of 'have spacesuit, will travel' & 'job: a comedy of justice', which i both enjoyed during my high school years. however, at the same age i wasn't impressed by 'friday' or 'starship troopers'--which i reread earlier this year & reaffirmed that yes, it is perhaps the singlemost morally repugnant work of fiction i've ever read--as well as being uninterested in completing 'door into summer' & 'glory road').
anyway, getting back to grip, it can't possibly be anyworse than the plot & dialogue of the current angel & the ape miniseries. no wonder i haven't read a word of howard chaykin's work since i my first encounter with his work ten years ago (a copy of 'black kiss' that a friend i perused when i was working in a local comic shop). chaykin is the larry flint of comics... if only dc/vertigo would print fleep bond's gorgeous art uncluttered by lettering...
steven l'enfant terrible