Not seen a thread for this but apologise if I missed it. Anyhoo
Aside from having a great title I didn't release the mighty Brendan McCarthy has had input on this.
QuoteProduction on the film has finally kicked off in Namibia. Bleeding Cool understands that Brendan McCarthy's early input is still making up a good part of Miller's plans for the film and from what we know of those plans, this is big, brash but still very inventive and smart stuff.
That makes it sound very exciting.
Full story.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/29/mad-max-fury-road-to-be-shot-in-2d-after-all-then-converted-to-3d/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/29/mad-max-fury-road-to-be-shot-in-2d-after-all-then-converted-to-3d/)
Yeah, this has been in development for donkey's years, with Brendan's involvement early on. He co-wrote it as well as contributing to the designs.
Phuz mentioned this on The Strangeness fairly recently:
http://strangenessofbrendanmccarthy.blogspot.no/2012/05/im-back-mostly-back-to-front-but-on-my.html
Not based on Brendan's designs as far as I know, but how good does this look?
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Is it still only ...Fury Road that Miller is shooting in Namibia? I heard a while back he was going to shoot two new Mad Max films back-to-back, and he had finished the script on the second new one during the enforced hiatus and delays owing to one mishap after another...
Good to see Miller is enthused about the franchise again after (understandably) excusing himself from filming most of the third outing, and good in general to see old-fashioned action flicks making a comeback.
They've written 3 films for the new Max series. They won't be shot bad-to-back.
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McCarthy had an interesting relationship with Hollywood:
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/01/waterworld-freakwave-brendan-mccarthys-road-to-mad-max-4/
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Thanks for the link and the new pics, Joe. Freakwave has been a big favourite of mine for a very long time; hunting down the original run in Vanguard after coming across Strange Days (all pre-internet) was great. I guess after the Waterworld flop, a 'Mad Max Goes Surfing' might be a hard sell, but just imagine... The basic set-up would be fantastic; The Drifter, Rudcliff & Williams, spoilers, Captain Roaring, the giant, floating head of JFK (might leave out Mickey Death, though).
Well it's definitely underway:
http://collider.com/mad-max-fury-road-set-photo/177405/
27 years since Thunderdome? Really?
Mind you, I saw it a while ago and I think it had been out a good while even then. And I remember I was probably in my teens or early twenties when I saw it and I'm well into the old side of 30 now, and yes. I guess it really has been that long.
Next big blip on my radar after Dredd, can't wait!
Of all the films this Mad Max will have the best sound system:
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and for the kids:
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So is this a continuation? Is Mel Gibson in it?
Just checked internet. No it seems.
Poor Mel's got other, uh, 'issues' currently more pressing at the mo'...
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 July, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
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Looks like leftovers from The Cars That Ate Paris :)
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Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 12 July, 2012, 03:23:34 AM
Poor Mel's got other, uh, 'issues' currently more pressing at the mo'...
That's why he'd be perfect for Mad Max.
I agree. I'd love to see Mel Gibson in a new Mad Max. If I was in charge I'd do a reboot technique that's become popular, and I'd have Mel's older ravaged Max come and warn Hardy's Max of some peril, maybe also inturn introducing some kind of further scifi (parallel world) dynamic to the Mad Max films.
Mel Gibson is a very much a quandry to me. I'm a fan of his back catalogue of movies, and I'd even have him in my own personal 'Expendibles' along with the over looked Kurt Russell. Actor's who work with him onset even say he's a good guy. But then he doesn't something rather insane or random that of course tarnishes his career (e.g. racist pseudo religious rants, bullying scriptwriters, leaving abusive voicemails to former lovers etc). Gibson strikes me as someone who doesnt like the fact he's growing older and that his career is very much on the wane. If he reformed, renounced his modern bouts of mania and bad behaviour, I'd love him to have some sort of cameo in the 'new Mad Max films'.
Quote from: judgeblake on 15 July, 2012, 06:12:30 PM
I'd have Mel's older ravaged Max come and warn Hardy's Max of some peril, maybe also inturn introducing some kind of further scifi (parallel world) dynamic to the Mad Max films.
The other
Mad Max films are so grounded in the sense of a physical reality very much like our own, that introducing a
Crisis On Infinite Max's element to the story would be stretching everyone's credulity. Look at the knots
Strontium Dog and
Rogue Trooper tied themselves into with time travel, parallel realities and alternate histories.
I imagine if you flew Mel Gibson out to Queensland, handed him a bottle of Jack Daniels, and just filmed him wandering around the outback, ranting at the God he spent most of his life sucking up to in Latin for taking away his career and his hair; it'd be every bit as grim, disturbing and apocalyptic as anything Tom Hardy will come up with.
QuoteI imagine if you flew Mel Gibson out to Queensland, handed him a bottle of Jack Daniels, and just filmed him wandering around the outback, ranting at the God he spent most of his life sucking up to in Latin for taking away his career and his hair; it'd be every bit as grim, disturbing and apocalyptic as anything Tom Hardy will come up with
.
haha a good point very well made. I don't know...I guess I don't like to write anyone off, especially an actor whose movies I've enjoyed and grown up with. I guess I had this idealistic notion of Mad Max films going even more sci fi, and having this Good the Bad and the Ugly western element - like the good (hardy's max), the bad (the bad guy of the movie) and the Ugly (Gibson's ravaged old drunked Max). Of course Gibson is doing a perfectly good job of writing his own career off all by himself! :P
It's about oil, guns and death-vehicles.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 July, 2012, 12:38:26 AM
It's about oil, guns and death-vehicles.
I wholeheartedly agree :)
Does anyone know the prospective release date for Mad Max Fury Road come to think of it? Have they finished shooting it?
They're still shooting.. From what I hear (I know a lot of people on it..) it's shooting until mid january or so.. Had no interest in this because all the design work was done and I would just end up fabricating props in Namibia, which is a shit hole in my opinion, and I've done my time in the workshop.. And apparently, as traditional with big movies that've been kicking around in development hell for too long, it's all a bit of a clusterfuck of people not really knowing what's going on.. 10000BC was the same.. Loads of crew clustered together with nothing to do but drugs and each other. Not my idea of a fun job.
I'm sure the movie will be okay..
Do you know if Hardy has slimmed down for the role or not? When Hardy was announced to be in a new Mad Max film, knowing that he would have to bulk up for Bane, I thought hardy would actually play musclebound Fifi from Mad Max (1979) - or in a more convoluted twist I thought maybe the new franchise Mad Max movies would focus on a universe where Fifi was the main character and not Max lol =
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Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 July, 2012, 09:06:33 AM
Had no interest in this because all the design work was done and I would just end up fabricating props in Namibia, which is a shit hole in my opinion, and I've done my time in the workshop.. it's all a bit of a clusterfuck of people not really knowing what's going on.. 10000BC was the same.. Loads of crew clustered together with nothing to do but drugs and each other. Not my idea of a fun job.
That's a perfect setting for a post-apocalyptic film.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 July, 2012, 09:06:33 AM
They're still shooting.. From what I hear (I know a lot of people on it..) it's shooting until mid january or so..
A 7 month shoot, for one film?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 July, 2012, 08:11:27 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 July, 2012, 09:06:33 AM
They're still shooting.. From what I hear (I know a lot of people on it..) it's shooting until mid january or so..
A 7 month shoot, for one film?
Apparently.. Not sure when they started though. There was a lot of redoing of stuff because of the move from Alice Springs to Namibia, so that would cause delays.. Otherwise I'm just going off of what I'm hearing..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 July, 2012, 08:41:40 PM
QuoteThey're still shooting.. From what I hear (I know a lot of people on it..) it's shooting until mid january or so..
A 7 month shoot, for one film?
Apparently.. Not sure when they started though. There was a lot of redoing of stuff because of the move from Alice Springs to Namibia, so that would cause delays.. Otherwise I'm just going off of what I'm hearing..
When Charlize Theron was in the UK for the launch of
Prometheus she said she was headed to Namibia in a couple of weeks- and showed up with the baldy napper shortly after.
I was gonna watch my boxset of all the Mad Max films, but if the next installment is due out next year I may wait and watch the other movies before Mad Max Fury Road comes out since it supposedly leads on from Mad Max - Beyond the Thunderdome.
Quote from: judgeblake on 25 July, 2012, 01:21:23 PM
I was gonna watch my boxset of all the Mad Max films, but if the next installment is due out next year I may wait and watch the other movies before Mad Max Fury Road comes out since it supposedly leads on from Mad Max - Beyond the Thunderdome.
Don't you just hate it when they bring out a box set and then decide to make another movie?
Quote from: judgeblake on 25 July, 2012, 01:21:23 PM
I was gonna watch my boxset of all the Mad Max films, but if the next installment is due out next year I may wait and watch the other movies before Mad Max Fury Road comes out since it supposedly leads on from Mad Max - Beyond the Thunderdome.
It's a reboot not a sequel. It was originally a sequel when Mel Gibson was cast.
Really - oh thats good! I was wondering that Hardy looked too young to play the older Max lol :P
Time for some Manowar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLgporKLnpA):
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57265
:| That looks like it should be at a burning man festival..
theres a boyracer down my street that is trying to build the equivalent to that using kenwood speakers lol
I'm really looking forward to seeing Tom Hardy's 'hungry wolf' body transformation and how his character differs from that of Bane.
Some more photos;
Interceptor?
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Mad Mad: Fury Road press release.
The Road Warrior Returns in "Mad Max: Fury Road", a Kennedy Miller Mitchell Production
Filming underway with George Miller directing stars Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron
SYDNEY, Aug 13, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Principal photography began 9 July on the dystopian action adventure "Mad Max: Fury Road", a Kennedy Miller Mitchell production written and directed by "Mad Max" creator and Academy Award(R) winner George Miller ("Happy Feet"). The film will be presented by Warner Bros. Pictures in association with Village Roadshow Pictures. It will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company, and in select territories by Village Roadshow Pictures.
"Mad Max: Fury Road"--the fourth in the franchise's history--stars Tom Hardy ("The Dark Knight Rises") in the title role of Max Rockatansky, alongside Oscar(R) winner Charlize Theron ("Monster", "Prometheus") as Imperator Furiosa.
According to Miller, "Mad Max is caught up with a group of people fleeing across the Wasteland in a War Rig driven by the Imperator Furiosa. This movie is an account of the Road War which follows. It is based on the Word Burgers of the History Men and eyewitness accounts of those who survived."
"Mad Max: Fury Road" also stars Nicholas Hoult ("x-men:First Class") as Nux; Hugh Keays-Byrne ("Mad Max", "Sleeping Beauty") as Immortan Joe; and Nathan Jones ("Conan the Barbarian") as Rictus Erectus. Collectively known as The Wives, Zoe Kravitz ("x-men:First Class") plays Toast, Riley Keough ("Magic Mike") is Capable, and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley ("transformers:Dark of the Moon") is Splendid. They are joined by supermodel Abbey Lee Kershaw as The Dag and Courtney Eaton as Fragile, both of whom are making their big screen debuts. Also featured in the movie are Josh Helman as Slit, Jennifer Hagan as Miss Giddy, and singer/songwriter/performer iOTA as Coma-Doof Warrior.
The cast is rounded out by well-known Australian actors John Howard, Richard Carter, supermodel Megan Gale, Angus Sampson, Joy Smithers, Gillian Jones, Melissa Jaffer and Melita Jurisic.
Miller is directing the film from a screenplay he wrote with Brendan McCarthy and Nico Lathouris. Miller also produces the film, along with longtime producing partner, Oscar(R) nominee Doug Mitchell ("Babe", "Happy Feet"), and P.J. Voeten. Iain Smith, Graham Burke and Bruce Berman serve as executive producers.
The behind-the-scenes creative team includes Academy Award(R)-winning director of photography John Seale ("The English Patient"); action unit director and stunt coordinator Guy Norris ("Australia"); editor Margaret Sixel ("Happy Feet"); production designer Colin Gibson ("Babe"); Oscar(R)-winning costume designer Jenny Beavan ("A Room with a View"); and makeup designer Lesley Vanderwalt ("Knowing").
Shooting on "Mad Max: Fury Road" is taking place in Africa with the support of the Australian government. Originally slated to be shot in Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia, the production was forced to relocate due to severe flooding, rendering the Australian landscape unsuitable for the film. The rain turned the area into an oasis instead of the post-apocalyptic terrain that is the setting for Max's world.
SOURCE: Kennedy Miller Mitchell Services
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-road-warrior-returns-in-mad-max-fury-road-a-kennedy-miller-mitchell-production-2012-08-13
"Rosie Huntington-Whiteley is Splendid".
There's an awful lot of underwear models there. Mind you, if you have to ship your production from Oz to Africa you would want to keep the weight down.
Some more BTS snaps. Reckon some people'll be in trouble with some of them. Some what I would assume Brendan McCarthy's legendary storyboards featured here...
Hard not to get excited...
Looks like Muties and Cannibals this time:
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=66036
Fucking awesome. And nice to know once the dust has settled with Dredd I'll have something new to obsess over...
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 August, 2012, 10:12:56 PM
Looks like Muties and Cannibals this time:
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What is it with film costume designers and blingy codpieces?
Tom Hardy. Meet Mad Max: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60085
Fucking awesome!
Looks good.
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Cool. Cool cool cool.
START YOUR ENGINES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXk1E4JmMOA)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 07:45:11 PM
START YOUR ENGINES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXk1E4JmMOA)
That is fuckin' mental. I hope someone on the production had the foresight to invite
Top Gear for a visit to the set, because there's an entire episode there.
This will be Dredd levels of stomach-churning anticipation for me. If there's one property I worship as much as 2000AD it's Mad Max. Bring. It. On.
Quote from: sauchie on 21 January, 2013, 07:49:51 PM
That is fuckin' mental. I hope someone on the production had the foresight to invite Top Gear for a visit to the set, because there's an entire episode there.
As long they get to run over the hosts.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 07:45:11 PM
START YOUR ENGINES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXk1E4JmMOA)
Awesome! Oh interesting to see the Tanker from Mad Max 2!
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 21 January, 2013, 07:49:51 PM
That is fuckin' mental. I hope someone on the production had the foresight to invite Top Gear for a visit to the set, because there's an entire episode there.
As long they get to run over the hosts.
Just give the little one a shot in a car. He'll put himself in hospital again, and if he hits a fuel tanker he might take out the other two at the same time.
It's been delay with three weeks of re-shoots in November.
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mad-max-fury-road-set-for-3-weeks-of-re-shoots (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mad-max-fury-road-set-for-3-weeks-of-re-shoots)
Also a same pic....
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It won't be out till 2015, allegedly.
Make of this what you will but someone from the set has reported there were problems with the cast during the shooting. Ego has landed kinda stuff. They were starting late and finishing early every day and the production fell way behind. On the scheduled last day of shooting the movie wasn't finished but Warners execs shut it down anyway. Apparently the "reshoots" are, in fact, the rest of the movie. All hearsay I know but at this point, it seems reasonable to assume the movie's not where it's supposed to be. Hope it's all bullshit. This will incite Dredd-ian levels of excitement closer to its release date...
RELEASE DATE: May 15th, 2015. Two weeks after Avengers 2 and a week to itself before an insanely busy summer of blockbuster shite kicks off. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/65189
REVISED GOSSIP/RUMORS: From the center of all things Mad Max-ian - madmaxmovies.com - the news is good! Forget the last post. The movie's apparently fantastic and the reshoots are, in fact, new parts of the movie. Warners is delighted with it and paying to extend some of the action sequences. Make of that what you will.
Also, the Mel Gibson is making an appearance rumors won't go away.
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 November, 2013, 02:51:10 PM
Also, the Mel Gibson is making an appearance rumors won't go away.
He's in it all right; playing a character called
The Drifter.
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 November, 2013, 02:51:10 PM
Also, the Mel Gibson is making an appearance rumors won't go away.
GOOD! I wanna see him have a part in it
I'd love to see Bruce Spence as well.
Mad Max: Fury Road gets a new synopsis;
http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mad-max-fury-road-gets-a-new-synopsis (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/mad-max-fury-road-gets-a-new-synopsis)
The long-delayed Mad Max: Fury Road has finally settled upon a 2015 release date, and now a new synopsis has been officially released online, giving us an idea of what we can expect from the series reboot...
"The post-apocalyptic action film is set in the furthest reaches of our planet," explains the official blurb, "in a stark desert landscape where humanity is broken, and most everyone is crazed fighting for the necessities of life."
"Within this world of fire and blood exist two rebels on the run who just might be able to restore order... There's Max (Tom Hardy), a man of action and a man of few words, who seeks peace of mind following the loss of his wife and child in the aftermath of the chaos."
"And... Furiosa (Charlize Theron), a woman of action and a woman who believes her path to survival may be achieved if she can make it across the desert back to her childhood homeland."
The first test screening of the film was also held yesterday in the States, with Collider detailing some mixed reports suggesting that the film is still a way from being the finished article.
With reshoots thought to be ongoing, hopefully any lingering problems will be ironed out by director George Miller by the time the film makes it to these shores on 15 May 2015.
Mad Max and... Furiosa. I see.
This IDW Dark Judges thing was ahead of its time.
Rough-cut screenings have been very positive... A large chunk of one pasted below.
http://aftimes.com/2014/05/randy-does-not-review-mad-max-fury-road-advanced-screening/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
"What is Mad Max Fury Road?
It isn't NOT the first Mad Max.
It isn't NOT the MM-Beyond Thunderdome.
It is not the movie that 1985 Randy walking out of a movie theater in Plymouth, MA, having been only slightly sated after waiting so long for sequel.
This IS the kind of Mad Max II/The Road Warrior on steroids, go-big-or-go-home, bug-nuts crazy, toss-you-in-the-deep-end mythology and put-it-all-out-there-in-case-we-never-make-another-one Mad Max Fury Road.
In fairness & full disclosure, I am very much, in case you've never read my column before, a HUGE Mad Max fan. I go so far as to say that director George Miller is one of the six directors that made me want to make movies... and that was The Road Warrior. I have forgotten how many times I've seen it.
I CANNOT WAIT!
So now ya know.
This movie feels like thirty years of Miller holding in passion for a world that he built so long ago, exploding on the screen. You, remember the third act of The Road Warrior, the bad-ass truck chase that is still hailed as a masterpiece of filmmaking?
You do? Good.
Because that's what this whole movie pretty much is-and it works! A chase that goes long and deep into the heart of Miller's post-apocalyptic world, trying to get out of the Wasteland. It opens up and hardly slows down.
You want groovy cars? By the car-carrier load!
You want auto combat? Parts strewn for miles!
You want practical f/x and stunts? I wonder how many on the stunt team died making this madness?!
Its beginning feels like part Miller's burning passion bursting forth after so long and part a gift to those who've waited so patiently for a "real" Mad Max movie. You could watch only the first act as a die-hard fan and you feel like the wait has been worth it."
Really, really looking forward to seeing this.
So pissed off I didn't know about, and try to get into, this. Just up the fucking (fury) road. However, I'm going to voice a theory that screening this almost a year out from its release means there may be more tweaks (possibly even more reshoots) to it. I've a feeling they may be trying to figure out what they've got. Can't wait though.
New images out!
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Well no denying that looks very good and very in keeping with... well certainly the second two.
Looks brilliant.
The wild boys are calling
On their way back from the fire
In august moon's surrender to
A dust cloud on the rise
Wild boys fallen far from glory
Reckless and so hungered
On the razors edge you trail
Because there's murder by the roadside
In a sore afraid new world
They tried to break us,
Looks like they'll try again
Wild boys never lose it
Wild boys never chose this way
Wild boys never close your eyes
Wild boys always shine
(I see this as a good thing BTW)
I have high hopes for this one. The images look good, but we won't know until we see it. I'm still hoping for a cameo by Bruce Spence.
I keep flip-flopping on this: on one hand it looks great, but on the other, big-budget doesn't usually go too well with post-apocalyptia and it's the trashy, low-rent stuff that tends to stick in the memory.
Still going to see it, obviously.
(http://i.imgur.com/Neyun6K.jpg) who is she?
Charlize Theron
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Confession: I've never seen any of the Mad Max films.
Quote from: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
Confession: I've never seen any of the Mad Max films.
Let this opening of Mad Max 2: Road Warrior help you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-AbRTYNhI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-AbRTYNhI)
You only need to see MM2. Go rectify that immediately. That movie changed my thirteen year old life in ways I couldn't even begin to explain. (Brendan McCarthy's too. He co-wrote and designed a huge chunk of this new one back in the early 00's.)
First one's pretty dated - although that's part of the appeal for me - and Thunderdome's a bit choppy. Starts well, ends well but there's a lot of stuff in the middle where it just goes off the road and can't decide what kind of tone to take.
Quote from: Goaty on 26 June, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
Confession: I've never seen any of the Mad Max films.
Let this opening of Mad Max 2: Road Warrior help you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-AbRTYNhI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-AbRTYNhI)
Goaty, even in that tiny snippet of car carnage there's a great character moment that elevates the movie: When Max turns off the engine's booster, the dog gets bored and goes to lie down. I love that scene. Well, fuck it - I love this movie. I don't think I've ever watched another movie as much as this one in my 43 years of existence.
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 04:41:27 PM
You only need to see MM2.
Blackmocco has proven he's more
Master than
Blaster with that summarisation.
Mad Max 2 is essential viewing.
I'll also admit that I had more of a crush on Virginia Hey as a kid than I did Carrie Fisher.
RE new movie; looks pretty good. We'll see.
And good reason to watch MM2 is this Wez been voted the best Movie Henchmen in many movie critic websites.
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Quote from: Link Prime on 26 June, 2014, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 04:41:27 PM
You only need to see MM2.
Blackmocco has proven he's more Master than Blaster with that summarisation.
Mad Max 2 is essential viewing.
I'll also admit that I had more of a crush on Virginia Hey as a kid than I did Carrie Fisher.
RE new movie; looks pretty good. We'll see.
I would suggest that you only need to see Mad Max 2 if you only want to see half the story. I agree that the orignal does feel a bit dated but I would advise anyone to watch it first so they see the breakdown of society and of Max himself which leads into #2 and his return to humanity through the settlers.
Plus, the end to #1 is just awesome. :)
Don't get me wrong Recrewt- I love the 1st movie too.
The sequel's got that grimey post-apocalyptic feel just right though- it's my (and most others I'm sure) favorite of the three.
Actually, I don't think it's explicitly revealed that the original movie was set in a 'post-apocalyptic' world, more one on the verge of upheaval.
End to the 1st one is great- especially if you're a fan of Saw.
I thought MM1 was pretty boring rather than dated, and doesn't show any societal breakdown or nuclear war, it's just a sheriff getting his revenge on rowdy outlaws as seen many times over elsewhere. MM2 was where it hit the sweet spot between action and drama and introduced the post-nuclear element that came to embody the franchise.
MM3 gets a lot of stick, but it's okay.
Quote from: Professor Theopolis K Bear on 26 June, 2014, 05:31:52 PM
I thought MM1 was pretty boring rather than dated, and doesn't show any societal breakdown or nuclear war, it's just a sheriff getting his revenge on rowdy outlaws as seen many times over elsewhere. MM2 was where it hit the sweet spot between action and drama and introduced the post-nuclear element that came to embody the franchise.
MM3 gets a lot of stick, but it's okay.
I only recently saw I and III, and I was surprised to feel completely the opposite to how percieved wisdom says I'm supposed to. I really enjoyed III, almost without reservation (obv not a patch on II, and it maybe feels aimed at a more juvenile audience). MMI was a bit of a mess, I thought - it initially doesn't seem to know whether it wants Goose or Max to be the protagonist, the plot meanders uncertainly all over the place, the 'revenge' element that the DVD blurb would have you think drives the film kicks in
far too late in the day, and those dubbed American accents are really distracting. It's got a grungy, shoestring-budget charm but it feels as though they were making up the story as they filmed it.
Sorry you had to see the dubbed version, Jimbo. Thought they'd phased that one out years ago. It really does cheapen the movie.
Quote from: Link Prime on 26 June, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
Actually, I don't think it's explicitly revealed that the original movie was set in a 'post-apocalyptic' world, more one on the verge of upheaval
That was one of the things I really enjoyed about those films. I saw them in reverse order, and even after I eventually watched the first film I don't think I quite realised that they never bothered explaining how and why the world went Revelations. That's because it
doesn't matter at all. With all due respect to the excellent
Rekrewt's opinion, there is no overarching narrative or character progression; the films are as disconnected and work as well individually as Leone's equally
ad hoc and discreet Dollars trilogy (in that they're not really a trilogy either).
As remarked above, 1 and 3 both start and end really well, but only number 2 holds your attention all the way through. Because it was the first one my folks would let me rent on VHS, I'm fondly indulgent of the late eighties excess of the final film, but even as a kid the inclusion of kids to humanise Max rankled - the theme tune was nakedly honest about the film's aim of removing the
anti prefix from Max's character description. That said, the stuff about The Pokkylips, Captain Walker, and Mrs Walker cracked me up, and laid the groundwork for my later encounters with Levi-Strauss and
Zardoz.
If you're only going to watch one, the second's the film to see. It still stands up fantastically, but I'm not sure how it will play for someone seeing the film for the first time today ... after having spent a lifetime watching films which rip it off quite shamelessly.
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 06:01:07 PM
Sorry you had to see the dubbed version, Jimbo. Thought they'd phased that one out years ago. It really does cheapen the movie.
Oh wow! I assumed the dubbed version was the only one available - it was the version that came on a DVD boxset of the trilogy. I'll definately seek out the original - the lip synching is just horrendous, even though it's english speakers dubbing english speakers!
Even George Miller says there's no arc that ties the three (now four) movies together. He just wanted to tell stories that featured the same character without worrying about how they fit together, as if they're fables. And really, only the first movie is an established narrative. The second and third are all related through the Feral Kid and the tribe of kids Max encounters so there's a nice loophole where you don't know if this is supposed to be EXACTLY how it happened. Apparently the fourth one is the same.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 26 June, 2014, 06:22:15 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 06:01:07 PM
Sorry you had to see the dubbed version, Jimbo. Thought they'd phased that one out years ago. It really does cheapen the movie.
Oh wow! I assumed the dubbed version was the only one available - it was the version that came on a DVD boxset of the trilogy. I'll definately seek out the original - the lip synching is just horrendous, even though it's english speakers dubbing english speakers!
The US distributors were terrified no-one would be able to understand the Aussie accents...!!!
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 26 June, 2014, 06:22:15 PM
the lip synching is just horrendous, even though it's english speakers dubbing english speakers!
Sheila Florance's first language is quite clearly
Strine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SJHBpgBGgXw#t=14).
MM 2 is chock full of good visual story telling too. Mel Gibson has about as many lines as a Terminator.
I like all the Gibson MM films for different reasons. MM1 is my favourite by a long shot.
For me, MM1 has always been under-rated. Yes, it has dated - but then so has any Australian film made in the 70's. I think the dated feel just adds to it's charm.
Being Australian, the best thing about MM1 is the dialogue - you just don't get stuff like this in movies anymore...
Kid: Hey Mister! What happened to the car?
Bubba Zanetti: What do you think happened?
Kid: Looks like it's been chewed up and spat out.
Bubba Zanetti: Perhaps it's the result of an anxiety.
More pearls of wisdom from Bubba and the rest of the crew...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501/quotes
For anyone who ever gets to Osaka in Japan, there's a great collectibles shop there with some very cool MM related gear. Can't remember the name of the shop, but from memory, these are images of some of the stuff.
http://constantinesnightout.tumblr.com/post/73106569763/okamidensetsu-hero-gangu-mad-max
Can anyone answer this question - do the actors in MM Fury Road speak with Aussie accents? I'll be very disappointed if they don't! :)
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 26 June, 2014, 06:22:15 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 06:01:07 PM
Sorry you had to see the dubbed version, Jimbo. Thought they'd phased that one out years ago. It really does cheapen the movie.
Oh wow! I assumed the dubbed version was the only one available - it was the version that came on a DVD boxset of the trilogy. I'll definately seek out the original - the lip synching is just horrendous, even though it's english speakers dubbing english speakers!
I'm pretty sure you can choose the original Australian soundtrack in the audio options on the DVD menu. :)
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 04:47:13 PM
When Max turns off the engine's booster, the dog gets bored and goes to lie down.
Interesting I always read that as: the dog knows without the booster the baddies will catch up so goes to a safer covered area of the car for the ensuing battle that sure to follow.
Dunk!
You can but it's not the default option. Caught me out too.
Quote from: Link Prime on 26 June, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
Don't get me wrong Recrewt- I love the 1st movie too.
The sequel's got that grimey post-apocalyptic feel just right though- it's my (and most others I'm sure) favorite of the three.
Actually, I don't think it's explicitly revealed that the original movie was set in a 'post-apocalyptic' world, more one on the verge of upheaval.
End to the 1st one is great- especially if you're a fan of Saw.
I agree that #2 is the best of the three. It's clear that they didn't really have the budget to fully achieve what they wanted with the first one.
Quote from: blackmocco on 26 June, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
Even George Miller says there's no arc that ties the three (now four) movies together. He just wanted to tell stories that featured the same character without worrying about how they fit together, as if they're fables.
There is no major arc like there is in Star Wars but it seems to me that there is a clear character arc for Max through these movies.
But that's not the only thing - I have seen George mention that the original inspiration was some fuel shortages and how people behaved. He took this to the extreme and this is something that runs right through the trilogy with fuel starting to become more scarce in #1, fuel being scarce and something they fight for in #2 and oil/petrol apparantly running out in #3 and the alternative fuel of Bartertown.
Quote from: Krakajac on 27 June, 2014, 02:14:09 AM
Can anyone answer this question - do the actors in MM Fury Road speak with Aussie accents? I'll be very disappointed if they don't! :)
According to the reviews from people who saw the rough cut screening a few weeks ago, probably not. I agree though. Going to be weird without the accents...
Quote from: blackmocco on 27 June, 2014, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: Krakajac on 27 June, 2014, 02:14:09 AM
Can anyone answer this question - do the actors in MM Fury Road speak with Aussie accents? I'll be very disappointed if they don't! :)
According to the reviews from people who saw the rough cut screening a few weeks ago, probably not. I agree though. Going to be weird without the accents...
I was hoping they don't speak at all.
Good to see some aussie muscle shown in the pics there
Quote from: radiator on 26 June, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
Confession: I've never seen any of the Mad Max films.
REMEDY THIS IMMEDIATELY GOOD SIR!!!!
The muppets should definitely do a Mad Max:Furry Road. Kermit goes apeshit in revenge for miss piggies murder. I'd pay good money to see that
Dave
Thanks to blackmocco for the heads-up on this... First official poster.
(http://i.imgur.com/yeRKZP7.jpg)
Sexy.
I like it.
But "What A Lovely Day" very unusual tagline for Mad Max!
I have high hopes for this film seeing the XB Falcon on the poster! Forget the Batmobile, I would take the Falcon any day of the week. The only mode of transport for a post apocalyptic world!
Has there been any confirmation that the story is actually set in post-apocalyptic Australia? I can't remember reading any promotional stuff that suggests that it is. So no Aussie accents, and possibly not even based in Oz? I'll be pretty disappointed if Miller has gone down that path. Happy to be proven wrong though!
Quote from: Krakajac on 25 July, 2014, 06:00:05 AM
Has there been any confirmation that the story is actually set in post-apocalyptic Australia? I can't remember reading any promotional stuff that suggests that it is. So no Aussie accents, and possibly not even based in Oz? I'll be pretty disappointed if Miller has gone down that path. Happy to be proven wrong though!
I believe it's non-specific as to location- as in it could be anywhere.
Not that I believe it matters considering how generic this version of a post-culture/post-apocalypse future is and it is't a sequel to the 3 OZ-based films. Part of George Miller getting so much money to make the film
-$150 million or so- probably had a lot to do with it playing well to a general contemporary Yank audience. Think of the mixed casting in
Thunderdome.
Fury Road was shot in Namibia so it could have a few South African accents in the background
-Charlize Theron is South African- along with the non-descript savage grunts- what accent did Lord Humongous have in
The Road Warrior ?
Either way, I doubt dialogue will feature much.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 July, 2014, 09:12:18 AM
Not that I believe it matters considering how generic this version of a post-culture/post-apocalypse future is and it is't a sequel to the 3 OZ-based films.
I thought Miller stated it between MM1 and 2, although continuity in the films is fairly loose anyway.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 July, 2014, 09:12:18 AMwhat accent did Lord Humongous have in The Road Warrior ?
Back then, Australia only had ten actors (I think it's since risen to sixteen) so it's hardly surprising Miller roped in anyone who just happened to be around -- be it a spray-painted cattle dog or some jobbing Swede.
Wasn't the Humungus originally going to be a revived Jim Goose?
Quote from: James Stacey on 25 July, 2014, 09:26:53 AM
I thought Miller stated it between MM1 and 2, although continuity in the films is fairly loose anyway.
The same actor who played
Toecutter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Keays-Byrne) in the first
Mad Max played a different character in
Fury Road so I don't imagine it's an
inbetweenquel.
http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/comic-con-mad-max-fury-road-panel-george-miller-warner-bros/
A series of photoshops:
(http://i.imgur.com/oKzDW6i.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Gu70Rr8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/G51rwWs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qfDKD5R.jpg)
Gosh those so terrible photoshops! First one was so poor photoshop on that head!
Think 3rd photo could be perfect. And nice mask!
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 July, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
The same actor who played Toecutter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Keays-Byrne) in the first Mad Max played a different character in Fury Road so I don't imagine it's an inbetweenquel.
Yep you can see on poster that Hugh Keays-Byrne aka Toecutter is this villain.
(http://i.imgur.com/Gu70Rr8.jpg)
(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsK/41107-11779.gif)
Bruce Spence played completely unrelated characters in 2 and 3 and it didn't prevent 3 being a kinda sequel. Like I said though the whole Max trilogy is only tenuously linked anyway
excited for this
http://www.mtv.com/news/1880067/mad-max-fury-road-comic-con-footage/
Mad Max: Fury Road Comic Con footage!
Looks amazing! And interesting twist on that opening so the film would be interesting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO0jUAzOsV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO0jUAzOsV8)
I'll 'ave some of that! :)
I like it but it's all looking horrendously orange and teal to me. I can't help noticing it! :(
They often do it for trailers even if the film isn't. So fingers crossed.
Difficult to see how any film set in a desert environment during daylight hours isn't going to have a predominantly orange and blue palette. By that token, The Searchers is an orange and teal movie.
It's sand :)
Quote from: Buntonman on 27 July, 2014, 07:50:19 PM
Difficult to see how any film set in a desert environment during daylight hours isn't going to have a predominantly orange and blue palette. By that token, The Searchers is an orange and teal movie.
Ha, I see our point, but this is overkill. Even in the desert, other colours do exist.... :lol:
I watched Mad Max 2 constantly as a youngster, absolutely loved it, but didn't have any real interest in seeing a new movie with a recast Max. I just cynically wrote it off as more Hollywood remake/reboot nonsense that would never capture the spirit of the old movie I loved.
This trailer has changed everything for me. I think I'm now more psyched for this than anything else on the horizon, it looks astonishingly cool. Just...yeah.
I absolutely love the first two Mad Max movies, balls out Aussie film making at it's best, the third one not so much, bit more of a product than the first two (you could see the money on the screen but also in the script and toned down violence) I'm hoping this one falls in line with the first two. Looks like he might loose that beautiful Interceptor near the start again :( wonder where he gets all the parts to keep rebuilding his one of a kind car ;)
Seriously though that trailer looks f^&ken insane in a really good way, went from might see to must see now.
CU Radbacker
(http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s450/afjudge/oKzDW6i_zps504568b5.jpg) (http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/afjudge/media/oKzDW6i_zps504568b5.jpg.html)
Mad Max: Fury Road - San Diego Comic-Con Press Conference with George Miller & Doug Mitchell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMy4TNnevfc)
Saw an advance screening/work-in-progress of this last week. As a die-hard MM fan, the weight of expectation felt like I was fending off a heart attack while I stood in line. Hard to digest what I ended up seeing. Can't post spoilers thanks to an NDA, sorry. It's an insane movie. Seriously. Probably one of the most unique big budget movies I've ever seen. It's closer in tone and style to Thunderdome than MM2, I think, but it's pretty removed from the original trilogy. MUCH bigger, for one thing. Reminded me of Damnation Alley in places, particularly with the War Rig. It's much more aimed in a sci-fi direction than the previous ones. It's packed full of ideas, sometimes overwhelmingly so. The car chases and stuntwork are absolutely breathtaking. A great reminder that CG can't convince you of some things. Nothing like the weight of real cars getting shredded and mashed. The movie looks beautiful. Cast are great although Hardy's unpredictable. He won't be for everyone.
Quote from: blackmocco on 06 August, 2014, 09:09:12 PM
It's closer in tone and style to Thunderdome than MM2, I think, but it's pretty removed from the original trilogy. MUCH bigger, for one thing.
For me, that's a good thing, as a souped-up re-tread of
The Road Warrior is a bit pointless and I believe
Thunderdome, in spite of not quite reaching its ambition and pulling all its threads together, is still very well written: an expansion of the first two films' ideas and Max's multi-morphing myth- from
Road Warrior to
Raggedy Man and
Sky Pilot.
Fury Road tantalises with the prospect of
Brendan McCarthy car-cult weirdness and Charlize Theron's
Mean-Machine arm. As far as I know, if there's to be a sequel
-possibly not considering the expense of Fury Road- Theron's character,
Furiosa, is to be the main protagonist.
I actually ended up watching Thunderdome this morning. It gets no love compared to RW but I've always had a great soft spot for it and it held up pretty well.
It's hard to know how much of Brendan's actual designs are in there from when Mel was going to do this back in the early 00's but visually, it all looked to me like it's been touched by his hands. Very exciting.
It was a work-in-progress so still quite a few f/x shots to tie down but it's nearly there. Still a few little kinks to iron out, I would say, but they've got til next May so not too worried.
Brendan has second story credit so he's there in more ways than one.
How long was the cut?
Think someone said 109 minutes...? I guess they tested it a few months ago and it was a bit longer. It doesn't outstay the welcome which suits me. The world could do with a few less three-hour boring-as-shite 'epics'.
Thanks.
Arse-marathons spare no thought for the bladders of this world.
A must -see for me. Great to hear of Mr McCarthy' s involvement. 2 was my fave film in my younger days. I remember first seeing the trailer before watching Blade Runner and found myself awe-struck by the sheer reckless pace of it all. From what I've seen, Fury Road action scenes seem to be as kinetic as the first two.
Is this a reboot or a sequel to Thunderdome?
Reboot I think. Unless there's some way that Tom Hardy' s character picks up the mantle of Max.
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 August, 2014, 10:51:43 PM
Is this a reboot or a sequel to Thunderdome?
As discussed further upthread, there's no real chronology to the various films. They're all just films with Max as the lead character.
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 August, 2014, 10:51:43 PM
Is this a reboot or a sequel to Thunderdome?
It was originally a sequel 10 years ago when Mel Gibson was cast but Dr. George Miller
-apparently- considers it a reboot:
Is this a reboot or a direct sequel to the Mad Max trilogy?
It is a reboot. At the April 30th, 2014 test screening in Burbank, CA. Director George Miller told attendees that the reason for a reboot was that too much time had passed between the last Mad Max film to do a sequel or a film set between, along with doing such would mean a plague of continuity issues and creativity restrictions. George also commented that he didn't want to do a "remake" as he had no intention on retelling a story already told. A reboot allowed him to bring the universe and wasteland 30 years up to date while keeping Max as the moviegoers remember him, a man with nothing to lose after the loss of his family.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392190/faq?ref_=tt_faq_1#.2.1.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMy4TNnevfc
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 06 August, 2014, 10:51:43 PM
Is this a reboot or a sequel to Thunderdome?
Seemed like a reboot. It doesn't really make sense in the context of what we've seen before. Although, I can see how it could have followed on from Thunderdome had Mel been in here...
My take on Mad Max is the timeline's a bit messed up because of budgetary constrains for the first film. But it's not that tricky (http://www.madmaxmovies.com/archives/web-pages/alex-maddison-mad-max-chronology/mchron.html) to get the events into an order that makes a decent degree of sense. The severity of decay seems quite heavy, notably in the third film, but then Threads rather wonderfully showcased how rapidly things can go to shit if counties start flinging around the big stuff.
Brendan McCarthy talks Mad Max Fury Road storyboards (and comic stuff, too): http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54991
Trailer 2, looks insane and awesome and great car stunts!
http://youtu.be/xJSOT83BX-U (http://youtu.be/xJSOT83BX-U)
Let me preface that I've already seen a rough cut of the Fury Road and I had a few problems with it. In saying that, this new trailer makes me want to smash everything in sight in excitement. It's far from the greatest movie ever made (that's MM2/Road Warrior) but it could well be the greatest trailer ever made. Absolutely phenomenal.
Wow that seems to try to cram a lot in. I'm spinning just from watching the trailer. Looks like they've tried to squish all three films together?
Is one of your reservations (if you feel you can say) that it tries to do too much?
Ehh, I don't want to ruin to for anyone. Just some story stuff I felt they could have tightened up a bit. That aside, there's some stuff in here you've never seen before. Spectacular. Can't fucking wait to go again.
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 December, 2014, 08:00:06 PM
Just some story stuff I felt they could have tightened up a bit.
Fixable with a tighter edit, or a result of some bits of weak writing?
Given how long this movie has been in production id be amazed if there weren't some problems with it. But yeah, that trailer is all kinds of awesome.
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 10 December, 2014, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 December, 2014, 08:00:06 PM
Just some story stuff I felt they could have tightened up a bit.
Fixable with a tighter edit, or a result of some bits of weak writing?
Eesh. I guess I'd say a lack of writing. Haha! Look, I wouldn't spoil anything but I will place stuff in the spoiler bars just in case no-one wants to know what I thought. I'm a HUGE fan of the trilogy and I think there's definitely more good than bad with Fury Road. There are visuals in here like nothing you've ever seen before and the physical 'whooomph' you feel seeing real cars getting really, really fantastically mashed and smashed is proof for me that CG can only go so far to impress you.
[spoiler]But my biggest problem involved what's also the movie's greatest strength: It's a spectacularly energetic two-hour chase movie which doesn't ever stop to breathe. As a result, we never really get to know much about the characters themselves beyond the broad strokes and as a result, never really end up caring about what happens to them, particularly with Max himself. For a movie that's cost north of $200 million and has been in production, on and off, since the early 2000's, it seems a shame they couldn't just flesh the characters out a little bit. It doesn't have to be much. Even just a line or two of dialog to help things out. God knows, Max, Wez and Humungus didn't have much to say in MM2, but they were very clearly defined.[/spoiler]
But like I said, that's just my peeve. It's a trip of a movie, it really is. Probably the weirdest big-budget studio movie you're ever going to see.
The big question though is whether or not that is Mel Gibson in makeup at the 1.31 mark of this new trailer?? :o :-*
Woah! that was insane. Blackmocco, re your concerns, hasn't Miller all along stated this was the case? I can see where your coming from but it's not like they haven't been upfront about it from the start.
Looks incredible - for me, the most eagerly awaited movie in a long, long time (more so even that Dredd). That trailer has so much in it my head's still spinning...
Looks more Road Warrior than Thunderdome, thank god. Super fucking excited.
holy f&*k that's 2 minutes of arsom. Looks like Mel to me at 1.31, cameo or flash forward?
House mates gone off his nut over this and I cant say I blame him I really cant wait for this, it may not beat MM2 to the tile of best action movie ever made but looks a darn lot better than most of the Pg drek shovelled out as action movies these days.
CCU Radbacker
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 11 December, 2014, 10:05:50 AM
Looks more Road Warrior than Thunderdome, thank god. Super fucking excited.
There were elements of Thunderdome that worked well. Unfortunately the movie collapses in the last 45 minutes or so. What we've seen so far seems to take the better elements of Thunderdome and mix them into the Road Warrior template. I'm onboard with this.
Does look rather deadly, doesn't it? If only it was Dredd in the protagonist's chair and not the Punisher, I'd really go for this sort of thing as a 2012-version of the Cursed Earth.
Quote from: James Stacey on 11 December, 2014, 09:30:07 AM
Woah! that was insane. Blackmocco, re your concerns, hasn't Miller all along stated this was the case? I can see where your coming from but it's not like they haven't been upfront about it from the start.
Oh yeah, I knew what I was getting into. I'm not disappointed with the concept at all. It's a great idea for a movie, particularly a Mad Max one. [spoiler]It's just that it never stops to breathe and that ends up exhausting you by the end. The first half of the movie is so fucking good, so mind-bogglingly original and full of bizarre ideas and designs and concepts (Brendan McCarthy's hands are clearly all over it) that the second half has a lot of trouble matching up.[/spoiler] But look, even in saying that, I cannot wait to see it again. I'll be first in line opening day.
Wow, that certainly is a trailer and a half, isnt it.
Hadn't really given this much thought tbh, but I think my interest is now offically piqued
Fury Road is so insane it has a post-apocalyptic bukakke scene.
(http://cf.badassdigest.com/_uploads/images/m7.jpg)
http://www.slashfilm.com/new-mad-max-fury-road-images/
Oh myyyyy. :-\
Interview with McCarthy with some interesting nuggest of info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30781744
More insane!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YFuB3wuge0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YFuB3wuge0)
Nice chastity belt :D
I prefered that one. I have no idea about whether this will be any good, but I'm sure as hell excited to find out!
(http://i.imgur.com/PduD6Fs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xqQ35PY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QbKJuMG.jpg)
And according to the MPAA, Mad Max - Fury Road will be rated a hard R here in the US.
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 March, 2015, 01:49:10 PM
And according to the MPAA, Mad Max - Fury Road will be rated a hard R here in the US.
Didn't realise they'd changed the R rating system? It's just "R", right?
Surprised it's an R at all, to be honest. The cut I saw last summer didn't include anything explicit. Looking forward to seeing what changed.
18 seconds of post-apocalyptic <BOOM!!!!!!>
http://www.stephanelarue.com/Mad-Max-Fury-Road-Spot-Officiel-Explosion-Tom-Hardy-Charlize-Theron_a13627.html
Going to have to see this in the cinema, aren't I?
Quote from: Tordelback on 26 March, 2015, 07:47:02 PM
Going to have to see this in the cinema, aren't I?
You gotta be mad if not! ;)
Quote from: Tordelback on 26 March, 2015, 07:47:02 PM
Going to have to see this in the cinema, aren't I?
Yeah, you'd be crazy not to. It's a huge movie.
I saw a preview for this a the movies this afternoon and as I wondered at the amount of non Australian talent head lining this (Aside from the Indian fellow who was in the very first film!) and wether this was even filmed in my country? (I will look into this sometime!)
It odes look even more spectacular because of the near improved special visual effects. Just look at the gigantic wave wall of dust and sand and those explosions and Charlize Theron (The Ron???) is almost flawlessly hot looking.
Remember, I asked who the hot girl with the shaven head was, because I just didn't place her without her trade mark blondie locks. Could never get over her monstrous appearance in the film of similar name and how paranoid it made me about high way hookers. (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBMNgmsVFS61eMoBb30LuywP-hJifGw1zRcBKPXH7T1wGygyE6jQ)
'Indian fellow' = Hugh Keays-Byrne? I always thought he was as Australian as persistent interrogative inflection?
EDIT: Oops, no,sorry, IMDB reports born in Kashmir. But surely naturalised Ozzer by now!
Oh yeah... here's new TV Spot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=-Rq66CBhrEM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=-Rq66CBhrEM)
Quote from: Tordelback on 30 March, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
'Indian fellow' = Hugh Keays-Byrne? I always thought he was as Australian as persistent interrogative inflection?
EDIT: Oops, no,sorry, IMDB reports born in Kashmir. But surely naturalised Ozzer by now!
I thought he was a
New Zealander born in
India.
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 30 March, 2015, 10:29:52 AM
I saw a preview for this a the movies this afternoon and as I wondered at the amount of non Australian talent head lining this (Aside from the Indian fellow who was in the very first film!) and wether this was even filmed in my country? (I will look into this sometime!)
It odes look even more spectacular because of the near improved special visual effects. Just look at the gigantic wave wall of dust and sand and those explosions and Charlize Theron (The Ron???) is almost flawlessly hot looking.
Remember, I asked who the hot girl with the shaven head was, because I just didn't place her without her trade mark blondie locks. Could never get over her monstrous appearance in the film of similar name and how paranoid it made me about high way hookers.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBMNgmsVFS61eMoBb30LuywP-hJifGw1zRcBKPXH7T1wGygyE6jQ)
Filmed in Namibia as the original Australian Mad Max locations were blooming with flowers at the time. Not exactly the post-apocalyptic setting you'd hope for.
Look at the flowers....
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 30 March, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
Look at the flowers....
Sorry, that wasn't meant o be taken seriously.
Looking forward to this one. Tom Hardy is an acting powerhouse with some quality films to his name.
Full Trailer!! More insane! Stunts looks real and awesome!!
http://youtu.be/hEJnMQG9ev8 (http://youtu.be/hEJnMQG9ev8)
It would be rude and disrespectful not to see this film. It's already given me so much joy.
Wow I don't get to the cinema much... well except to go and see films that have Disney shorts that cash in on mega-smash hits ahead of them... sigh guess what I'm doing today... but have to say that has me sold.
Its gone from pure refined bonkers to strangely intrigued about the story bonkers.
Quote from: everdefiant on 31 March, 2015, 06:05:16 PM
Looking forward to this one. Tom Hardy is an acting powerhouse with some quality films to his name.
Was never really impressed with him in that
Star Trek - Nemesis film. He made for a irritating villain or maybe he was meant to be like that and now I realise he was in some prohibition film more bulked up.
He does look much healthier now.
The rest is yet to be....
Everybody was crap in Star Trek Nemesis. Everybody and everything. It was that kind of movie.
Looks simply amazing - not been excited about a film since, well, ever.
Operatic levels of carnage-I like it! :D
Should we start despairing of a sequel now, or leave it a year or two?
I think Mad Max is a pretty well known franchise so hopefully it won't tank in America like Dredd unfortunately did. Does look impressive.
Quote from: Tordelback on 01 April, 2015, 08:10:34 AM
Everybody was crap in Star Trek Nemesis. Everybody and everything. It was that kind of movie.
I liked the ending where instead of pretending they're zooming off into adventurous realms of the unknown and expanding the limits of human consciousness, the Enterprise just sits in space dock like a fucking lemon while Picard does some paperwork at his desk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPIPOaRUFg
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 April, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
I think Mad Max is a pretty well known franchise so hopefully it won't tank in America like Dredd unfortunately did. Does look impressive.
People are buzzing about it over here, unlike Dredd where, unfortunately, the typical reaction was "huh?!" if I mentioned it (unlike at SDCC where EVERYONE seemed impressed by it).
Lovely. Another great villain for Hugh. If he's half as awful as Toe Cutter, what a complete win!
Really looking forward to this.
It might be the Toe Cutter for all we know! Zombie Toe Cutter-now that would be a thing to see.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 01 April, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
It might be the Toe Cutter for all we know! Zombie Toe Cutter-now that would be a thing to see.
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:lol: :o] Well certainly listening to his voice in this that could be the case. Though how they'd put his head back together again... unless, clone :-*
New trailer, as nice to feature all Mad Max films in it for new viewers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW1pqP_6wDc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW1pqP_6wDc)
The Mad vehicles of Fury Road (http://vehicleshowcase.madmaxmovie.com)
Not sure if this makes it look any better and the more they try to sneak the plot in the more it looks like it might be bloated BUT, but but BUT can it be anything other than mindbendingly fun? I might make a rare trip to the cinema (to see something other than entertainment for toddlers) to see this.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/28/mad-max-fury-road-rides-in-with-final-trailer/ (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/28/mad-max-fury-road-rides-in-with-final-trailer/)
An extended clip/trailer is now online RETALIATE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3YXDQ1cfCE#t=22)
Blimey does this look fresh - from the man who most recently bought us
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQyNTkxMjUwMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDQ2NTU0MQ@@._V1_SY317_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTg1MzU2Nzg2OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzE3MzAxNg@@._V1_SY317_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)
...I love the idea of him just biding his time. As he coordinates a dancing penguin he's been waiting for this moment and then he's like:
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/ff4f0ff363fd5ef617fcdd8a4706afdf/tumblr_nm6qz5esNM1qka6nwo1_500.gif)
Well, this was all supposed to go in 2001 with The Mel in tow but 9/11 and Iraq and the The Mel going lampy took care of all that. Then Warners asked him to do Happy Feet in the interim. He'd have made it back then if he could have.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 28 April, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
Not sure if this makes it look any better and the more they try to sneak the plot in the more it looks like it might be bloated BUT, but but BUT can it be anything other than mindbendingly fun? I might make a rare trip to the cinema (to see something other than entertainment for toddlers) to see this.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/28/mad-max-fury-road-rides-in-with-final-trailer/ (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/28/mad-max-fury-road-rides-in-with-final-trailer/)
Colin, I saw a rough cut of this last summer. If I would voice any non-spoiler-y concerns, I would say it's the opposite of bloated, which kinda comes back to bite it on the arse in the end. It is also, however, absolutely fucking awesome.
Quote from: blackmocco on 29 April, 2015, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 28 April, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
Not sure if this makes it look any better and the more they try to sneak the plot in the more it looks like it might be bloated BUT, but but BUT can it be anything other than mindbendingly fun? I might make a rare trip to the cinema (to see something other than entertainment for toddlers) to see this.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/28/mad-max-fury-road-rides-in-with-final-trailer/ (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/04/28/mad-max-fury-road-rides-in-with-final-trailer/)
Colin, I saw a rough cut of this last summer. If I would voice any non-spoiler-y concerns, I would say it's the opposite of bloated, which kinda comes back to bite it on the arse in the end. It is also, however, absolutely fucking awesome.
Sorry I remember you telling me that before as well when I was whining about that, or some such. Good to hear.
Well, well, now that is unexpected, Empire and Total Film rated it 5 of 5 in their reviews, said it best view in IMAX!
Seems to be getting fantastic reviews across the board. I'm in!
100% on Rotten Tomatoes after 16 reviews,
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mad_max_fury_road/
Till Daily Mail...
Im a big mad max fan so i cant wait for fury road. Ive only seen the trailer were you see flashbacks of the original trilogy at the beginning of the trailer it looks fantastic.
Quote from: Goaty on 11 May, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
100% on Rotten Tomatoes after 16 reviews,
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mad_max_fury_road/
Till Daily Mail...
...or the Daily Mirror. Meh.
Anyway, the opening paragraph of the Time Out review gives a nice indication of the overall impact:
The fourth instalment of George Miller's punky post-apocalyptic 'Mad Max' saga feels like a tornado tearing through a tea party. In an age of weightless movie spectacles, here's a movie that feels like it was made by kidnapping $150 million of studio money, fleeing with it to the Namibian desert, and sending footage back to Hollywood like the amputated body parts of a ransomed hostagehttp://www.timeout.com/london/film/mad-max-fury-road
The reviews really are incredible, particularly for the kind of film it is. Expected it to get a lot of buzz in cult/genre circles but to see the mainstream press universally adoring it is really something.
Got my tickets booked for Thursday night in IMAX 3D, getting pretty excited.
Caught the 1:00pm session here in Queensland, Oz.
Was pleasantly surprised. It really doesn't let up. Was hoping that the movie would retain some connection to Australia - and it does - plenty of Aussie accents (and actors) throughout.
And the stunts. Wow. :o
90 reviews in on Rotten Tomatoes now: 99% fresh; 89 positive reviews and then there's the Daily Mirror... Pffft.
I'm so happy to see this being met with such overwhelming positivity from across the board; really very heartening. I'll be heading out to see this tomorrow with a bit of luck! :)
Quote from: Krakajac on 14 May, 2015, 11:05:36 AM
Caught the 1:00pm session here in Queensland, Oz.
Was pleasantly surprised. It really doesn't let up. Was hoping that the movie would retain some connection to Australia - and it does - plenty of Aussie accents (and actors) throughout.
And the stunts. Wow. :o
I live in a little town called Ipswich, near the city of Brisbane, South East Queensland.
Wont be able to see this film until another week and a bit has passed, but I have seen this.....
Traffic chaos: Cahill Expressway shut for Mad Max promo (https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/27885194/traffic-chaos-cahill-expressway-shut-for-mad-max-promo/)
Early Brendan McCarthy (http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/mad-max-fury-road/?portfolioID=115) concept art from 1997:
(http://artbrendan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR-LOCO.jpg)
(http://artbrendan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR-chariot.jpg)
(http://artbrendan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR-munkee.jpg)
(http://artbrendan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR-Furiosa-and-Armada.jpg)
(http://artbrendan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR-3D-storm.jpg)
There is an "Art of" book, out day going by Amazon, and I hope it includes some of Mr McCarthy's early design work.
Fingers (and claws) crossed.
Dunk!
Forgot about this thread and posted my thoughts in the 'Last Film' thread, I'll just paste them here (but will add that it was great to see Brendan McCarthy's name appear on the end credits. Not sure I knew he was involved, but if anything feels like it's had the touch of a 2000AD creator it's this movie.
Saw it at IMAX 3D last night and was completely blown away. I want to watch it a few dozen more times, there's so much to take in on one viewing, but there were a few times when I was just flattened by the scale of the carnage unfolding. It's properly mental. The highest hopes I had were that it would come close to Mad Max 2, and while it'll take a few more watches to be sure, right now I'm thinking it might be better.
That's the real surprise I guess, that just getting a new Mad Max film is exciting and cool in itself, but the fact that it's quite probably the best Mad Max film was not something I expected going in.
Quote from: Dunk! on 15 May, 2015, 08:31:51 AM
There is an "Art of" book, out day going by Amazon, and I hope it includes some of Mr McCarthy's early design work.
Fingers (and claws) crossed.
Dunk!
DC also have a comic tie-in out next week, apparently co-written by Miller himself; http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=1420204
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 15 May, 2015, 12:29:30 PM
Forgot about this thread and posted my thoughts in the 'Last Film' thread, I'll just paste them here (but will add that it was great to see Brendan McCarthy's name appear on the end credits. Not sure I knew he was involved, but if anything feels like it's had the touch of a 2000AD creator it's this movie.
Saw it at IMAX 3D last night and was completely blown away. I want to watch it a few dozen more times, there's so much to take in on one viewing, but there were a few times when I was just flattened by the scale of the carnage unfolding. It's properly mental. The highest hopes I had were that it would come close to Mad Max 2, and while it'll take a few more watches to be sure, right now I'm thinking it might be better.
That's the real surprise I guess, that just getting a new Mad Max film is exciting and cool in itself, but the fact that it's quite probably the best Mad Max film was not something I expected going in.
Funny you say that, Keef. I saw a rough cut last summer and felt the movie had more than a few shortcomings. Went in last night and was utterly blown away and like you, about halfway in was asking myself "holy shit! Is this as good as MM2?!" It's a fucking spectacular movie, it really is, and even if it's something that doesn't float your boat in the end, the audacity of the vision and bringing that vision to life in a summer blockbuster so different than anything else out there is to be applauded. Let's just remind everyone again that George Miller is 70 years old...! Loved it so much, we just walked into the next showing and sat through it all over again.
Oh hey, did you spot the Gyrocopter Captain's skull in there...? Haha!
And then tonight, here we go again with the FG crew....
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/MADMAX_zpsk6flbzqc.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/MADMAX_zpsk6flbzqc.jpg.html)
QuoteI saw a rough cut last summer and felt the movie had more than a few shortcomings.
So have they made changes to the film since the cut you saw, or did you just come around to it more?
I think a bit of both. The movie's essentially the same as the rough cut but obviously, the fx are now finished for one thing. Generally the movie was much leaner. Lot of trimming up. Great music score too.
There's a 2 hour presentation by DOP John Seale (like George Miller also in his 70's) and 2nd Unit cameraman David Burr (no spring chicken either). The stunts are all real but there was a lot of post-production.
https://vimeo.com/127381179
Well, i'm off to watch Fury Road. I'm more than a little excited.
I don't do cinemas. It's very rare I make a trip. But I am such a HUGE Mad Max fan, I'm seriously considering a trip when I'm off work in a couple of weeks time. Now I'm a bit of a wuss when it comes to theme park rides and such like so have always been put off IMAX and 3D because of motion sickness. I have no idea if 3D and IMAX cause motion sickness, by the way, but it's always put me off...
I first saw Mad Max 2 in the 90s on a late night BBC 2 film season called Moviedome presented by a certain Mark Kermode. I watched it on a portable 14" colour TV in my bedroom and was blown away at how awesome it was. I so wanted a 1973 Ford Falcon XB GT Coupe some day! Anyway, I want to see Fury Road in a slightly better definition... So what should I do?
Should I see it at our local IMAX, or should I play it safe with the old motion sickness and stick with 2D?
You need to see it in a theater. That is all.
Quote from: blackmocco on 15 May, 2015, 05:02:47 PM
Oh hey, did you spot the Gyrocopter Captain's skull in there...? Haha!
And wasn't it booby trapped? It appeared to explode, anyway (as far as I could see) which seemed quite fitting, somehow.
Fantastic film; amazed by the relentlessness from start to finish (and the missus loved it too) and a repeat viewing is definitely on the cards.
Somebody hold my head still, i'm still spinning!
That was...INSANE! I...I.I.I....Have no words. That was simply, the mutts nuts.
Now. AGAIN! AGAIN!!!! :D
Quote from: Link Prime on 15 May, 2015, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: Dunk! on 15 May, 2015, 08:31:51 AM
There is an "Art of" book, out day going by Amazon, and I hope it includes some of Mr McCarthy's early design work.
Fingers (and claws) crossed.
Dunk!
DC also have a comic tie-in out next week, apparently co-written by Miller himself; http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=1420204
Yup, the first issue out next Wednesday... the stories of Nux (Nicholas Hoult's character) and the Immortan. Next month, Furiosa and the Wives... then the following two months, a Max prequel which might answer a few questions..!
Now THAT was a blockbuster. Upstages Age of Ultron in spectacular fashion. Absolutely fantastic film. Ticked all the boxes for me. Lean, mean and refreshingly weird. Much like Dredd, it drops you right in and is a masterclass of economical visual storytelling. Simple, propulsive story with enough thematic heft to be rewarding and what a spectacle.
Loved it. 5/5.
LOVED the visual design. Charlize Theron smashed it out of the park. Would happily go and see it again.
At least it will be likely to get a sequel. Unlike... oh God! >sniff< #sob, blubber....
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 16 May, 2015, 10:04:36 AM
At least it will be likely to get a sequel. Unlike... oh God! >sniff< #sob, blubber....
Well it IS basically just The Raid on a skedway, right?
I've seen it three times now and it just gets more rewarding. The attention to detail is sublime. Lot of talk about it being Furiosa's movie in place of Max's but I'm not feeling that. Even in MM2 and Thunderdome, it's someone else's story Max gets pulled into (Hardy likens Max to The Littlest Hobo in interviews). My tuppence is that Hardy is eclipsed by Theron as an actor in this case. He's a fantastic actor, but he comes across as somewhat lightweight in FR. Won't go too far into alternate realities, but Gibson had a bit more presence as Max and made him more of a thinker. Hardy plays up the more physical, brutish side of the character.
It's much
madder than previous Max films and watching it you realise just how
much George Miller got away with when convincing Warner into giving him the money by bamboozling them with thousands of story-boards and ensconcing himself Kurtz-like in Namibia. Apart from a few things I felt it needed more of like [spoiler]the sojourn with All-Mother's before they turn back[/spoiler], I loved it.
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 May, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
Lot of talk about it being Furiosa's movie in place of Max's but I'm not feeling that. Even in MM2 and Thunderdome, it's someone else's story Max gets pulled into (Hardy likens Max to The Littlest Hobo in interviews). My tuppence is that Hardy is eclipsed by Theron as an actor in this case. He's a fantastic actor, but he comes across as somewhat lightweight in FR. Won't go too far into alternate realities, but Gibson had a bit more presence as Max and made him more of a thinker. Hardy plays up the more physical, brutish side of the character.
Yeah, some actors are preternaturally suited to be on-screen and by seemingly doing nothing are doing everything. It's inexplicable how it works and if
Charlize Theron never uttered a single word throughout the film it wouldn't matter. She's
that good.
Hardy's Max is elemental and animalistic and he plays Max as a resourceful underdog which works, though I wish they'd left his [spoiler]flashbacks, V.O. and the ghost voices of his past[/spoiler] on the cutting floor. They feel throwaway and are at odds with the film's quiet parts where they most likely belong as proper scenes (The Road Warrior does Max's intro better in that regard) and there's better ways to say, or rather show, he was a cop before the war. The film is otherwise so confident in itself it really didn't need that kind of spoon-feeding and it keeps cropping up during periods of Max's reluctance when a change of mind could be be better played on the face of an actor of Hardy's calibre which is how a younger
George Miller would've likely played it.
Hardy is still great though it's easy to imagine an older Gibson do this kind of story.
Quote
The attention to detail is sublime.
Seeing the essential American obsession with the automobile as a symbol of personal freedom reduced to a fundamental car-cult religion is genius and you can really see the hand of
Brendan McCarthy all over this - it's easy to imagine the
Judda living just down the road.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
It's much madder than previous Max films and watching it you realise just how much George Miller got away with when convincing Warner into giving him the money by bamboozling them with thousands of story-boards and ensconcing himself Kurtz-like in Namibia. Apart from a few things I felt it needed more of like [spoiler]the sojourn with All-Mother's before they turn back[/spoiler], I loved it.
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 May, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
Lot of talk about it being Furiosa's movie in place of Max's but I'm not feeling that. Even in MM2 and Thunderdome, it's someone else's story Max gets pulled into (Hardy likens Max to The Littlest Hobo in interviews). My tuppence is that Hardy is eclipsed by Theron as an actor in this case. He's a fantastic actor, but he comes across as somewhat lightweight in FR. Won't go too far into alternate realities, but Gibson had a bit more presence as Max and made him more of a thinker. Hardy plays up the more physical, brutish side of the character.
Yeah, some actors are preternaturally suited to be on-screen and by seemingly doing nothing are doing everything. It's inexplicable how it works and if Charlize Theron never uttered a single word throughout the film it wouldn't matter. She's that good.
Hardy's Max is elemental and animalistic and he plays Max as a resourceful underdog which works, though I wish they'd left his [spoiler]flashbacks, V.O. and the ghost voices of his past[/spoiler] on the cutting floor. They feel throwaway and are at odds with the film's quiet parts where they most likely belong as proper scenes (The Road Warrior does Max's intro better in that regard) and there's better ways to say, or rather show, he was a cop before the war. The film is otherwise so confident in itself it really didn't need that kind of spoon-feeding and it keeps cropping up during periods of Max's reluctance when a change of mind could be be better played on the face of an actor of Hardy's calibre which is how a younger George Miller would've likely played it.
Hardy is still great though it's easy to imagine an older Gibson do this kind of story.
Quote
The attention to detail is sublime.
Seeing the essential American obsession with the automobile as a symbol of personal freedom reduced to a fundamental car-cult religion is genius and you can really see the hand of Brendan McCarthy all over this - it's easy to imagine the Judda living just down the road.
The flashbacks were far, far worse in the rough cut and the movie was bookended with some FAR worse truly awful, badly-written and pretentious narration from Max. Completely at odds with how little he mutters in the movie. I agree we didn't need the flashbacks - the movie is so stripped back in every other respect it seems a cop-out to show us why Max is how he is (although apparently the upcoming video game and comics are going to flesh those flashbacks out a bit) - but they were toned down enough that I was more or less okay with them this time out.
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 May, 2015, 05:10:57 PMThe flashbacks were far, far worse in the rough cut and the movie was bookended with some FAR worse truly awful, badly-written and pretentious narration from Max.
Did any amount to full scenes? The shortened versions are of the over-played gimmick kind (Fast & Furious) and I'm not sure if they are literally trying to suggest Max is actually a bit 'mad' or not.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
Seeing the essential American obsession with the automobile as a symbol of personal freedom reduced to a fundamental car-cult religion is genius...
I think George Miller originally made Mad Max in part as a reflection of the Aussie obsession with cars and vehicular mayhem (see also The Cars that ate Paris) which he saw as his nation's counterpart to American gun culture. See also
The Cars that ate Paris which, coincidentally, also starred everyone's favourite gyrocopter pilot, Bruce Spence.
(http://i.imgur.com/PzxWUtI.jpg)
Quote from: ming on 16 May, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
I think George Miller originally made Mad Max in part as a reflection of the Aussie obsession with cars and vehicular mayhem (see also The Cars that ate Paris) which he saw as his nation's counterpart to American gun culture. See also The Cars that ate Paris which, coincidentally, also starred everyone's favourite gyrocopter pilot, Bruce Spence.
He did but it's literally a religion in Fury Road. Car-culture exists everywhere now but the US is built on it since the discovery of the combustion engine (Teenagers had cars before they had sex) and suburbia would die without cars.
Fury Road pays homage to The Cars that Ate Paris.
(http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MMFR_PlymouthRock-876x534.jpg)
I loved all the world-building stuff - the little subcultures with their own quirks/slang etc. It gave you enough information that you could fill in all the backstory. Loved those last few shots too, which i found quite moving.
Really liked Nicolas Hoult's character too, he got more screentime than I expected him to. You get a real sense of pity for the War Boys which gives the action scenes a lot more depth. The bit with the chain/car door/shotgun was phenomenally well-staged. I also love how visceral it is with Max's facemask. When he finally got it off I felt a palpable sense of relief.
I think the only moment i got confused was near the end - a baddie dropped a grenade into the cab and then it seemed to get forgotten about, unless I missed something (very possible).
Initially thought the same, Radiator but pretty sure it's a gas grenade.
I loved the war boys and how the soundtrack portrayed them as majestic noble warriors aka as they saw themselves.
It was indeed a gas grenade, and it got lobed back out the window moments afterwards.
Brendan McCarthy just pointed out that Tony Riot also worked on Fury Road back in the day... Awesome!
http://tonyvwright.tumblr.com/
(http://i.imgur.com/Dppg2xf.jpg)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 May, 2015, 05:22:02 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 May, 2015, 05:10:57 PMThe flashbacks were far, far worse in the rough cut and the movie was bookended with some FAR worse truly awful, badly-written and pretentious narration from Max.
Did any amount to full scenes? The shortened versions are of the over-played gimmick kind (Fast & Furious) and I'm not sure if they are literally trying to suggest Max is actually a bit 'mad' or not.
No, they were always just in flashback flashes, as they are now, but far more intrusive. [spoiler]Also, I guess it's not meant to be his daughter after all. Her name is Glory and apparently the comic tie-in will feature her in a prequel to the movie's events. Always wondered why she kept calling him "Max" instead of "dad". [/spoiler]
One scene that was noticeably (although very subtly) changed was right before [spoiler]Max chases the Vulvalini(!) to convince them to return to the Citadel. In the movie now, Max stands over the Plains Of Silence watching them leave and there's a child on the horizon that calls him "pa"[/spoiler] but in the rough cut, I remember Glory telling him to head back alone to the Wasteland. She says something like "Let's go, Max. Six degrees from nowhere...(a phrase she repeated a few times throughout the movie to let us know - duh - that Max is always six degrees from nowhere)" [spoiler]and it's clear Max is going against his survival instinct to help them.[/spoiler] I actually liked that scene although it was told pretty clumsily.
The end of the movie also had Max narrating as [spoiler]himself and Furiosa exchange grateful nods.[/spoiler] It was pretty bad.
Actually, I really had a lot of problems with the rough cut I saw but man, what a difference a tighter edit makes, the sound dubbing is all in there and tidied up, the loose ends are addressed and a great music score is added. There's a moral here: Avoid watching a half-finished movie.
From the upcoming comic, here's the synopsis:
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD – MAD MAX #2
Written by GEORGE MILLER, NICO LATHOURIS and MARK SEXTON
Art by MARK SEXTON
Cover by TOMMY LEE EDWARDS
On sale AUGUST 5 • 40 pg, FC, 2 of 2, $4.99 US • MATURE READERS
[spoiler]Left for dead and his V8 Interceptor stolen, Max Rockatansky sets out to retrieve it... heading straight into the bowels of the sunken city with nothing but his sawed-off shotgun. But the stakes are much higher than the fate of Max's ride... an innocent girl, Glory, has also been kidnapped by the depraved Buzzards. By the time Max arrives, it may already be too late...[/spoiler]
I don't like the idea that a film is THAT dependent on a tie in comic. I'll just pretend Max has really lost it by the time of Fury Road.
For me, having never seen a Mad Max film before, it didn't bother me at all and it wasn't a blank that I needed filling. You just accept that Max and Furiosa are both haunted by failing loved ones and go from there.
There was another thing i wondered about - during the climactic chase, Max furiously gestures at a pursuing car and shouts "that's mine!!!".
So was this his (fixed up) car from the beginning of the movie? It felt like it was leading up to a scene where he'd commandeer it that never came.
Quote from: radiator on 17 May, 2015, 01:02:53 AMSo was this his (fixed up) car from the beginning of the movie?
It's his
Ford Falcon V8 and it gets crushed between 2 larger vehicles at the end so I think that's it for that car.
There's a continuity argument to be made that this film could fit in between The Road Warrior and Thunderdome because Max doesn't have the car in Thunderdome but had it in Road warrior. Not that continuity really matters in these films.
(http://media.gotraffic.net/images/iTKFr7RvLbBU/v1/-1x-1.jpg)
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
(http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-interceptor/mad-max-interceptor-double-wrecked.jpg)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
(http://www.madmaxmovies.com/mad-max-interceptor/mad-max-interceptor-double-wrecked.jpg)
There are people still trying to make it work, continuity wise. Haha! Good luck with that.
The only thing that ties it directly to the original three continuity-wise are the reuse of visual elements, recycled, updated and retooled for a new era.
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 May, 2015, 01:59:54 AMThere are people still trying to make it work, continuity wise. Haha! Good luck with that.
It's the same as the 'Dollars Trilogy': apart from similar thematics, it's not a story trilogy, and it's never been a problem.
GoodBad'n'Ugly, Fistful, Few Dollars More.
In recent days, I saw an image on-line from MM:FR (possibly behind-the-scenes) that suggested a modified (vintage) Mini had been used as one of the vehicles. I'll be damned if I can find the image now. I certainly don't remember seeing a Mini in the movie itself - but there were a lot of vehicles getting about. Something to look out for during a re-watch!
Ah. Seek and ye shall find. Still don't remember seeing it in the movie! There's another shot out there somewhere of the front end.
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk41/biolumen/7772885232_ee4c835422_k.jpg)
From the Grauniad:
Hardy is reportedly signed up for three more instalments and a separate live action show is also apparently in the works. But Miller, now 70, suggested a pause might be necessary before work on follow-ups began.
"I feel like a woman who's just given birth to a really big baby. And then someone says: 'When are you gonna have your next one?"
I'd be quite satisfied to leave it here, as i'd find it difficult to top Fury Road. But....we'll see.
Quote from: M.I.K. on 17 May, 2015, 04:53:33 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 02:07:28 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 May, 2015, 01:59:54 AMThere are people still trying to make it work, continuity wise. Haha! Good luck with that.
It's the same as the 'Dollars Trilogy': apart from similar thematics, it's not a story trilogy, and it's never been a problem.
GoodBad'n'Ugly, Fistful, Few Dollars More.
I look forward to your chronology of the Carry On dodecahedrilogy, including an explanation of why the characters keep changing jobs and travelling in time.
I thought it was absolutely mind blowing. I've grown up as a Mad Max fan so went into the cinema with an equal mix of excitement and trepidation. It was awesome though, and I saw things I'd never seen before.
The whole thing just looks so fantastic that, even while watching it, I was wishing they'd made a set of trading cards or something. I've just bought the art book off Amazon.
It's on track for a decent opening weekend, but I would hope that it's going to continue to do well as people that really connected with it are going to want to go and see it again (myself included). Such fantastic work deserves to be rewarded.
I watched this last night and immediately after was in two minds. I think I was still reeling from the all out audio-visual assault. I'd definitely like to see it again, maybe in a different venue. I'm not sure if this is possible or if it's just me but during tracking shots it seemed like the cinema projector wasn't able to keep up with the sweep of the camera, causing a kind of juddering effect. This is obviously not a fault of the film, that's why I'd like to watch it again.
I loved the organic weirdness that underpins the whole aesthetic, in that it didn't seem tacked on for the sake of it but a genuine by-product grown out of the world the characters find themselves in. It had a reason for being like that, either because the characters wanted it to look like that to satisfy their own religious/personal whims or there was some practical reason. I especially liked the brothers of the main villain (I think they were - I didn't watch it in English) like [spoiler]the bloke in the suit with elephantiasis and metal nose rubbing his pierced nipples and the trigger-happy guy with bullets like a judge's wig[/spoiler]. I also love that it reminded me of other great sci-fi worlds like Dune (the movie) and Cholly & Flytrap but stayed true to the look of the previous Mad Maxes.
I can't decide what niggled me about it. I think it was a case of comparing it too much to films that came out in another time with much lower budgets, so this new one's added sheen and new actor took some getting used to. Anyway, to rewatch.
I can't believe Nicholas Hoult is the boy from About a Boy after seeing this and Young Ones (a post-apocalyptic/western film worth a look).
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
I don't know about Fury Road yet, but Road Warrior and Thuderdome were both stories recounted by a narrator after the fact: the time they crossed paths with the Road Warrior, the semi-legendary figure of the Outback. So it's all open to unreliable narrator syndrome. Max's car would have become part of his legend so it might be added to his stories even when it wasn't involved.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 17 May, 2015, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
I don't know about Fury Road yet, but Road Warrior and Thuderdome were both stories recounted by a narrator after the fact: the time they crossed paths with the Road Warrior, the semi-legendary figure of the Outback. So it's all open to unreliable narrator syndrome. Max's car would have become part of his legend so it might be added to his stories even when it wasn't involved.
It's a while since I saw 2 (I do seem to recall the car being destroyed though) but I did rewatch Thunderdome the other night and got a bit confused. He starts that film riding a camel-drawn wagon, then when be gets to Bartertown they somehow have his car there and are trying to bully him into disabling the booby traps on it.
I guess the implication is that the car was stolen off-camera before the start of Thunderdome (hence the wagon) but it does throw another spanner in the continuity works. Incidentally the upcoming videogame begins with the car being destroyed and revolves around Max building a new one.
It's too cool and iconic a movie car not to use I guess (and destroy repeatedly).
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 17 May, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 17 May, 2015, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
I don't know about Fury Road yet, but Road Warrior and Thuderdome were both stories recounted by a narrator after the fact: the time they crossed paths with the Road Warrior, the semi-legendary figure of the Outback. So it's all open to unreliable narrator syndrome. Max's car would have become part of his legend so it might be added to his stories even when it wasn't involved.
It's a while since I saw 2 (I do seem to recall the car being destroyed though) but I did rewatch Thunderdome the other night and got a bit confused. He starts that film riding a camel-drawn wagon, then when be gets to Bartertown they somehow have his car there and are trying to bully him into disabling the booby traps on it.
I guess the implication is that the car was stolen off-camera before the start of Thunderdome (hence the wagon) but it does throw another spanner in the continuity works. Incidentally the upcoming videogame begins with the car being destroyed and revolves around Max building a new one.
It's too cool and iconic a movie car not to use I guess (and destroy repeatedly).
Keef, it's the same car that was being towed by the camels at the start. On his way to Aunty's eyrie, Max spots his camels for sale too.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 17 May, 2015, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
I don't know about Fury Road yet, but Road Warrior and Thuderdome were both stories recounted by a narrator after the fact: the time they crossed paths with the Road Warrior, the semi-legendary figure of the Outback. So it's all open to unreliable narrator syndrome. Max's car would have become part of his legend so it might be added to his stories even when it wasn't involved.
The only pisser with that is Max himself narrates Fury Road. Of course, he IS mad. Maybe he's not telling the story correctly eitber!
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 May, 2015, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 17 May, 2015, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
I don't know about Fury Road yet, but Road Warrior and Thuderdome were both stories recounted by a narrator after the fact: the time they crossed paths with the Road Warrior, the semi-legendary figure of the Outback. So it's all open to unreliable narrator syndrome. Max's car would have become part of his legend so it might be added to his stories even when it wasn't involved.
The only pisser with that is Max himself narrates Fury Road. Of course, he IS mad. Maybe he's not telling the story correctly eitber!
That's assuming it
is Max and not some bloke who's taken his car, his jacket and his name. At some point in development wasn't this going to be Max's adopted son? (Feral kid)?
Quote from: JamesC on 17 May, 2015, 01:12:19 PMAt some point in development wasn't this going to be Max's adopted son? (Feral kid)?
Internet fan-theory - similar to the one about Mel Gibson playing a role known as Drifter alongside Tom Hardy.
well after a crap weekend (my cat was trapped by the neighbour taken to the pound and euthanized because they thought he was a feral, never mind the bloody de-sexing tattoo on his ear and the fact he was a big soft fluffy cat and not some feral looking thing. I know he would've been hissing and spitting but then any cat would trapped in a cage :'()
Anyway sorry didn't want to depress anyone but just wanted to say this movie was so good it helped me get over a very depressing bad day. Its true when they say they just don't make movies like that anymore, I cant believe a major studio gave Miller $100M to make that insanity and let it ride, well done Warner Brothers well done.
Max is a story, legendary, he doesn't need to fit into any tight continuity, he's the one who comes when all is lost and saves you.
CU Radbacker
Christ almighty rad that's just horrendous.
Just back from watching it in IMAX 3D.
It was the absolute dogs bollocks.
Dunk!
Blazing madness, such an amazing film.
Thought I'd compare it to Road warrior similarly Terminator 3 to T2, but(t) fuck was I wrong. Blew the lid sky high beyond any expectation I had. Everything from the world building to how tightly told it was. I often found myself thinking about the Cursed earth how imaginative it was. Miller has described it as a rock opera, and with all rights.
I'm pretty sure this'll be my all year fav. film.
Sitting in cinema at the O2 about to watch it now.
Don't normally come here for cinema, but happen to go to church at the same cinema, albeit a different screen. Handy although a bit pricier than my local, I think.
Glowing review with comparrison to a certain comic characters world. :D
http://io9.com/mad-max-fury-road-is-an-astonishing-work-of-art-1704715858 (http://io9.com/mad-max-fury-road-is-an-astonishing-work-of-art-1704715858)
Dunk!
Quote from: JamesC on 17 May, 2015, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 17 May, 2015, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 17 May, 2015, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 17 May, 2015, 01:19:48 AM
But then again it was destroyed in Road Warrior too so continuity, rightly, doesn't matter a jot.
I don't know about Fury Road yet, but Road Warrior and Thuderdome were both stories recounted by a narrator after the fact: the time they crossed paths with the Road Warrior, the semi-legendary figure of the Outback. So it's all open to unreliable narrator syndrome. Max's car would have become part of his legend so it might be added to his stories even when it wasn't involved.
The only pisser with that is Max himself narrates Fury Road. Of course, he IS mad. Maybe he's not telling the story correctly eitber!
That's assuming it is Max and not some bloke who's taken his car, his jacket and his name. At some point in development wasn't this going to be Max's adopted son? (Feral kid)?
The upcoming Mad Max comics might shed some light on how the movies tie together... Particularly issues 3 and 4...
Just saying...!
Saw it. Liked it. I should probably watch it again as I missed some points here and there as is often the case with action sequences. (The amount of times I rewind bits on DVD to catch what I missed is ridiculous.)
Quote from: M.I.K. on 17 May, 2015, 04:53:33 AM
GoodBad'n'Ugly, Fistful, Few Dollars More.
Yeah, at the end of GoodBAdUgly, he picks up the outfit that he starts Fistful with. But I always assumed this was just a clever joke.
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Quote from: M.I.K. on 17 May, 2015, 04:53:33 AM
GoodBad'n'Ugly, Fistful, Few Dollars More.
Yeah, at the end of GoodBAdUgly, he picks up the outfit that he starts Fistful with. But I always assumed this was just a clever joke.
About the car at the start of Thunderdome, I must have just missed that opening shot as I was settling down to watch the film - I only caught the wagon, no car. That makes sense now.
The answer to all the continuity queries seems to be that Miller simply isn't that bothered about it though -
http://collider.com/mad-max-fury-road-sequels-mel-gibson-cannes-2015/ (http://collider.com/mad-max-fury-road-sequels-mel-gibson-cannes-2015/)
MILLER: "All the films have no strict chronology. It's like an episode in Mad Max's life. Never ever wrote any of the scripts with a chronological order."Despite this I've decided to convince myself Fury Road is post-Thunderdome (Max went back to Bartertown and got his car back in the time between).
Saw this yesterday and I won't deny that it's an incredibly made, action packed and visually stunning piece of work, but I thought it was a bit samey for two and half hours.
The old movies were action/adventure sci-fi movies that happened to feature a centrepiece desert battle/chase - this was a battle/chase, followed by a battle/chase followed by a battle/chase building up to a climactic battle/chase.
There were hints of characterisation and relationships between the leaders of the various factions, but I wanted to see more of that society and the interplay between the leaders of the Citadel, the Bullet Farm and Gastown. I wanted more about the warboys and their bizarre religious/medical customs, and the Imperators.
I can't say I was bored because the action doesn't let up and kept me entertained throughout (the storm scene was particularly amazing), but looking back afterwards I felt a little under-nourished
Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 May, 2015, 09:46:02 AMI thought it was a bit samey for two and half hours.
That's a half hour longer than the film I saw. Lucky bastard.
hmm ... AMC cinemas have it listed as 150 mins - I wonder if they've started including the aads & trailers in the running time (makes sense as that would tell you when you'll be leaving based on the advertised start time).
Just pre-ordered the Mondo vinyl of the score -
http://mondotees.com/products/mad-max-fury-road-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-2xlp?variant=1399777283 (http://mondotees.com/products/mad-max-fury-road-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-2xlp?variant=1399777283)
Been listening to it on Spotify a fair bit since seeing the movie. Watching the film the only thing that really struck with me about it was the sheer power of it, but there's a lot of nice nuance to the fury, not unlike the film itself. And the power and punch of it is really something.
....and I've now spotted the part about it only shipping to US customers so guess I'll need to arrange a refund. Damn. It didn't throw any errors when I put my UK address in so didn't tip me off.
Quote from: ming on 16 May, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
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Seeing the essential American obsession with the automobile as a symbol of personal freedom reduced to a fundamental car-cult religion is genius...
I think George Miller originally made Mad Max in part as a reflection of the Aussie obsession with cars and vehicular mayhem (see also The Cars that ate Paris) which he saw as his nation's counterpart to American gun culture. See also The Cars that ate Paris which, coincidentally, also starred everyone's favourite gyrocopter pilot, Bruce Spence.
(http://i.imgur.com/PzxWUtI.jpg)
I have vivid memories of seeing a huge poster or billboard up in lights (For that old Film!) at
Fox-Studios in
Sydney, N.S.W. about 13 or 14 year earlier. Use wander around that place a lot on the way the beach or
Beverly Hills (Yes,
Sydney, has one too!) and I managed to see the film as well, but not so sure where. Must have been around about that time, because I had just discovered
GTA 4 - Liberty-City and thought that point from where the film ends with the dude drives away from the small town. (I think the place was called
Paris but not so sure if it's really there!) Would have made a great game. His adventures from that point onwards.
Haven't seen that film yet. Still won't be doing so, until next week at least if I get a chance.
Does seem very current with the whole Syria issue
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 18 May, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
....and I've now spotted the part about it only shipping to US customers so guess I'll need to arrange a refund. Damn. It didn't throw any errors when I put my UK address in so didn't tip me off.
Send it to me. I'll send it to you. No worries.
Quote from: blackmocco on 18 May, 2015, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 18 May, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
....and I've now spotted the part about it only shipping to US customers so guess I'll need to arrange a refund. Damn. It didn't throw any errors when I put my UK address in so didn't tip me off.
Send it to me. I'll send it to you. No worries.
If you were willing to do that I'd be hugely grateful! I'll PM you and see if we can sort something out.
Millers set up a Twitter page, and he's confirmed their is indeed more Mad Max in pre-production.
My question, did Fury Road set the bar TOO high for any sequel? Or is more of the same good enough...
I'd highly recommend the art book everybody http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Mad-Max-Fury-Road/dp/1783298162/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431979987&sr=1-2&keywords=mad+max+fury+road
There are some cool McCarthy design sketches, some nice anecdotes and some unused ideas (such as a hovercraft which lures other drivers into quicksand!)
Mad Max: The Wasteland is the sequel's title according to Miller on this podcast.
http://www.theqandapodcast.com/2015/05/mad-max-fury-road-george-miller-q.html
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 May, 2015, 09:11:22 PM
Millers set up a Twitter page, and he's confirmed their is indeed more Mad Max in pre-production.
My question, did Fury Road set the bar TOO high for any sequel? Or is more of the same good enough...
I wouldn't be interested in seeing another 2 hour chase.
I enjoyed it, but wanted a bit of a breather and was getting slightly fatigued about 20 minutes from the end...
Though that might have been lack of legroom despite 18quid tickets...
fantastic film , seen it twice now. Wonder if any violence cut out.
In Miller we we trust...
Well, I have a little trepidation about sequels in one regard: I've always liked the MM movies are only loosely connected as we've discussed above. Max may be the one thing that connects them but each world is so different than the last. It almost seems weird to think about a sequel that would directly connect to one of the movies in a way the others didn't. I loved Furiosa but part of me hopes any sequel is just another standalone adventure.
Or there's always Wacky Death Races:
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/bzajk_zpsf76bf42c.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/bzajk_zpsf76bf42c.jpg.html)
Can't wait to see fury road tomorrow night and cant wait, The missus has been doing me head in to go and see pitch perfect 2 but ive persuaded her to see mad max instead, When i told her tom hardy was in it she was sold seeing as she's got a bit of a crush on mr hardy. :lol:
Im so excited i put i cant wait twice. :lol:
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 May, 2015, 09:20:03 PM
Mad Max: The Wasteland is the sequel's title according to Miller on this podcast.
http://www.theqandapodcast.com/2015/05/mad-max-fury-road-george-miller-q.html
You beat me to
this! (http://geektyrant.com/news/george-miller-reveals-title-of-the-mad-max-fury-road-sequel)
(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/george-miller-tom-hardy-cannes-mad-mad-fury-road.jpg?w=650&h=396)
Do you think
Tom Hardy might make a good
Slaine? (It's already been suggested on another part of the forum!)
He does look a little like the
Dying Gaul with that moustache
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Dying_GaulDSCF6738.jpg/450px-Dying_GaulDSCF6738.jpg)
My doubts arrive from his role as the clone villain in
Star-Trek Nemesis.....
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/f/f0/Shinzon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101021183055&path-prefix=en)
He even had that creepy voice....
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/555a3d7be4b0e109ea9cd10e/1431977344997/?format=1000w)
yet, he's looks almost totally qualified in this photo. Where I would often compare
Slaine dark body suit with any of the costumes from theses films....
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0l6choGNZnqZHKKVhbLKXf0PXM9rnaekAl1KOrqgqUFehh3lB)
Okaaay... I did not recognise the actor as the chap who played the Reman* commander from Star Trek Nemesis!
**[spoiler]Who wwasn't actually Reman. Genetically speaking, anyway...[/spoiler]
Yeah, he's had a funny old career - he was in that Star Trek film, then seemed to completely disappear for years, then he was in Bronson which led to a star-making role in Inception.
Quote from: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
then seemed to completely disappear for years
Two words: crack cocaine.
Happily he made it through to regain a career.
Dunk!
Quote from: Dunk! on 19 May, 2015, 08:12:48 AM
Quote from: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
then seemed to completely disappear for years
Two words: crack cocaine.
Happily he made it through to regain a career.
Dunk!
Seriously? Wow.
Crack cocaine: delicious but deadly.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/tom-hardy-interview-inception-actor-on-his-path-from-crack-addiction-to-stardom-9831188.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/tom-hardy-interview-inception-actor-on-his-path-from-crack-addiction-to-stardom-9831188.html)
I had no idea - amazing.
There was one interview (can't find it now!) where Miller said two films were written and the plan had been to shoot them back to back, but when the shoot got delayed for a year and relocated (and went over budget I'd imagine) they focused all their energies and threw everything they had prepared into a single film instead.
I'd definitely be up for another film, but think it would need to be a bit different. Fury Road absolutely nails the Road Warrior thing, to the point where it feels very much like the ultimate Mad Max film. Don't think he could top it for vehicular carnage and not sure I'd want to see him try! Maybe something less car/chase based, along the lines of Thunderdome? My main source of disappointment with that movie back in the day was the lack of smashy car action, so maybe it would be similarly disappointing to people who have just come to Max through Fury Road. Excited to see what happens either way though.
Going again tomorrow night, giddy at the thought of another viewing.
Got the "Art of" book today. There's a lot more production design photos over actual concept art, but there's a vein of McCarthyism (many pieces dated 1997!) throughout that made me smile, and it's overall a lovely book.
Oh for just a book of Brendan's designs but then maybe a Swimini Purpose Too is on the cards?
Dunk!
Quote from: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
Yeah, he's had a funny old career - he was in that Star Trek film, then seemed to completely disappear for years, then he was in Bronson which led to a star-making role in Inception.
I also noticed him in some film about
Prohibition in the
American-South with some well known
Aussie actor (He was in the
Time-Machine remake and
Prometheus and
Shia-Le-Bouf.
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 19 May, 2015, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
Yeah, he's had a funny old career - he was in that Star Trek film, then seemed to completely disappear for years, then he was in Bronson which led to a star-making role in Inception.
I also noticed him in some film about Prohibition in the American-South with some well known Aussie actor (He was in the Time-Machine remake and Prometheus and Shia-Le-Bouf.
Prometheus wasn't Hardy, he was a bit of a Hardy-alike.
He may have been in Shia Le Bouf though I suppose.
Just got in from seeing it and ive gotta say it was Amazing, Breath of fresh air with all the garbage that's out there like fast and furious and tacky remakes, I enjoyed every minute of fury road but as much as I'd like a sequel I'd be happy if we didn't get another one as i just cant see them topping fury road.
Now bring on the mad max game. :thumbsup:
Quote from: hazy efc on 19 May, 2015, 11:17:58 PM
Now bring on the mad max game. :thumbsup:
It does look very promising indeed.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 19 May, 2015, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 19 May, 2015, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
Yeah, he's had a funny old career - he was in that Star Trek film, then seemed to completely disappear for years, then he was in Bronson which led to a star-making role in Inception.
I also noticed him in some film about Prohibition in the American-South with some well known Aussie actor (He was in the Time-Machine remake and Prometheus and Shia-Le-Bouf.
Prometheus wasn't Hardy, he was a bit of a Hardy-alike.
He may have been in Shia Le Bouf though I suppose.
(http://www.thereelbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/weyland001-730x365.png)
Guy Pierce
LeBouf was never in
Prometheus.
Both him,
Hardy, and
Pierce were in....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Lawless_film_poster.jpg/220px-Lawless_film_poster.jpg)
My bad, misunderstood your post.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2015, 09:29:32 AM
My bad, misunderstood your post.
I didn't mean to be rude about it, except to make it clearer the
Aussie actor's exact identity and how he was in two of those films.
Saw this this morning. Very worried about expectations raised by so much overwhelming praise in reviews and on social media, so did my best to dampen down my own enthusiasm ahead of seeing the film.
[spoiler]FUCKING HELL.
That was BRILLIANT.
I wanna go AGAIN.[/spoiler]
Short version: it was OK. You should probably see it...
Cheers
Jim
Yeah too thumbs up here too - bit thin on plot but the visuals and pace were amazing. Great in Imax - some vertigo inducing scenes and some unnecessary but fun stuff lying towards your face -[spoiler] guitar, steering wheel and, I'm pretty sure, the gyro Captain's head.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Dunk! on 19 May, 2015, 08:12:48 AM
Quote from: radiator on 19 May, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
then seemed to completely disappear for years
Two words: crack cocaine.
Happily he made it through to regain a career.
Dunk!
A friend of a friend went to acting school with Tom Hardy, and they shared a flat in Camden. Been told a few things that I won't post here, suffice to say they both had a lucky escape from that kind of lifestyle.
And if you want to see Tom Hardy acting his socks off, I'd recommend the mini-series 'The Take'. He's [spoiler]fucking[/spoiler] terrifying in that!
Quote from: Woolly on 20 May, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
A friend of a friend went to acting school with Tom Hardy, and they shared a flat in Camden
Withnail and I: not a lifestyle manual.
Cheers!
Jim
One for fans of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Mad Max: Fury Road:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSuat6MSwT4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSuat6MSwT4)
Quote from: radiator on 20 May, 2015, 07:15:21 PM
One for fans of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Mad Max: Fury Road:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSuat6MSwT4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSuat6MSwT4)
That's drokking great.
I'll be honest... I don't accept suggestions of the plot being a bit thin as any kind of criticism. Too many films are obsessed with structured, multi-act plots, but plot is merely the means by which theme and character are developed and explored.
Did I enjoy every damn minute of the film? Yes. Ergo, it had exactly enough plot.
Further, I've found myself thinking about the themes, the subtexts of the movie, more than any film I've seen for a long time: [spoiler]the admirable approach to 'disability'; the sly politics, in which many of the characters are literally the means of production, their identities subsumed to their output (blood bag, breeder, milker, even, we eventually realise, the War Boys); Max and Furiosa's very different journeys to arrive at an acceptance of hope... and so many more thoughts that I can't yet articulate and which I'll probably have to see the movie again to grasp firmly.[/spoiler]
A remarkable piece of work.
Plus: an awful lot of shit blowing up.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 May, 2015, 11:03:30 AM
Further, I've found myself thinking about the themes, the subtexts of the movie, more than any film I've seen for a long time
Ditto. This film is just staying with me for some reason.
I can count on one hand the amount of films I've gone to the cinema to see twice- very tempted to do so in this case.
Yeah agree with all of that Jim. Went for a second watch last night and actually enjoyed it even more than the first watch. So much to enjoy, and I appreciated the discipline to the pacing this time more - the first watch was a bit of a blur and my memory of it was that it was relentlessly over the top (in a good way!) but on a rewatch I appreciated that there's actually a great deal of discipline to the pacing of the whole thing, it takes its foot off the gas just enough at just the right places. The way it's orchestrated to keep the action escalating is incredible. The set-pieces start big and then somehow continue to throw more and more at you, managing to keep things building when you've kicked off at such a high point to begin with is amazing.
Also while some action movies dazzle with their action and set-pieces on a first watch and then on a revisit some of the excitement is gone, I found it even more thrilling this time. Not sure if the smaller screen and 2D helped (first watch was in IMAX so a lot of the finer detail of the action maybe didn't translate as well) but I was finding every stunt and every action beat was hitting even harder for me.
Went with the rest of the audio department from work and there was a great deal of enthusing post-film about how fantastic a lot of the sound design is. The vehicles all have such a great throaty roar to it that you feel in your gut, it revs you right up. The action in general is just so much more weighty and visceral than anything I can remember seeing in many, many years. If there's one thing sound-wise that sticks out as a minor quibble on a second watch it's that the ADR on Hardy's lines is a bit obvious, his voice often sounds very front-end, his voice just doesn't seem to sit as comfortably in the mix as the other actors. Could be down to a lot of his dialogue being quite muttery and ad-libbed, which was maybe difficult to replicate after the fact. Given the noise on the shoot just about every line must be dubbed, so hard to take issue with it.
Such a small criticism, and that's just looking for a flaw in a movie that I find very close to perfection. Can't wait for a third watch already!
I agree Jim - I'm starting to rethink my criticism that it's all car chase and I wanted more detail about the society and the people.
On reflection, we are actually told a helluva lot of information about the Citadel and it's inhabitants, but it's done quickly and by inference without needing it to be spoonfed or explained by some superfluous talking head - for example, I was momentarily confused when [spoiler]Immortan Joe goes into the empty cave and argues with the old woman - but it wasn't hard to connect the dots and work out what's happened - a less intelligent movie would require someone to shout "She's kidnapped all your wives and hidden them in the tanker" or similar. It's the same with Max's tormented flashbacks - there is no unnecessary detail or explanation[/spoiler]
Other random things I really liked about the movie:
the fact that Brendan McCarthy gets an equal writing credit at the start
The "Doof Warrior", AKA the crazy guitar guy.
little nods to the old films such as the [spoiler]wind-up musical box mechanism[/spoiler]
Charlize Theron's prosthetic arm.
The bullet master's funky head-dress
I did think though that if this is a world where "water, petrol and bullets are the most valuable resources", everyone seems awfully wasteful with all three!
I figured the excessive use of resources was because Joe, The People Eater, and Bullet Farmer has compounds based on 1. An underground water reserve, 2. An oil mining shaft, and 3. A precious metal ore mine. They can afford the use of materials, because they are dependent on one another for a successful industry.
Just to enthuse a bit more (man I love this movie), one moment that I think is executed particularly brilliantly, and it's not an action moment, is the part where [spoiler]Max finally manages to get his muzzle off. The sense of relief there is palpable. You barely see his face un-obscured to to that point, so it feels like a huge relief and also a bit of a reveal. There's a real sense of 'oh, there's a man under all that' to it.[/spoiler]
Another moment that played brilliantly at both screenings was [spoiler]the moment Joe's prize wife falls from the rig and slips under the wheels of Joe's car. The moment of relief and humor when she gets through the initial scrape is so good that when she then suddenly gets taken out a moment later it's a massive shock. Was a proper gasping, hand over mouth shock for me on that first viewing. That little nod and thumbs up Hardy gives her is so well played that it gets you laughing, and then mid-laugh they punch the wind right out of you.[/spoiler] Brilliant.
Saw it this morning - (love the 10.30 screenings at my local Vue - hardly anyone ever there!)
Anything interesting or critical I could think to say about it right now has pretty much already been said here, but what a relief to be able to read the spoiler tags!
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 21 May, 2015, 01:56:18 PM
I figured the excessive use of resources was because Joe, The People Eater, and Bullet Farmer has compounds based on 1. An underground water reserve, 2. An oil mining shaft, and 3. A precious metal ore mine. They can afford the use of materials, because they are dependent on one another for a successful industry.
I was thinking more about [spoiler]the ladies fleeing across a vast desert with a limited water supply - but taking time out to hose themselves down rather than washing in a bucket![/spoiler]
It was only a niggle - it's always amused me in all the MM films that a world where petrol is so scarce seems to be populated by people who do nothing hut drive round and round the desert!
Have to be honest, the rough cut I saw last year left me with the impression it was indeed too light on character but I had no such qualms seeing it again opening night. It was like watching a different movie. Seen it four times now and it's all there if you care to dig. David Mamet - and granted, he's talking about acting here but it equally applies to his writing - says that explaining backstory and exposition in movies are nothing more than bullshit to keep studio execs happy. ACTION defines character, not two talking heads moaning to each other about that summer when something happened to make them scared of what they're facing in the movie you're currently watching. If you watch Glengarry Glen Ross, Ronin with De Niro, hell, even The Edge with Hopkins and Baldwin (sorry. One of my favorite movies to watch over and over. I make no excuses.), you'll see Mamet putting this into action. Can't really think of a better example of that right now than Fury Road. Everything you need to know about this world and these characters is shown to you rather than explained to you. Exhilarating.
Big Mamet fan here too - watched 'House of Games', 'The Spanish Prisoner' and 'Spartan' all in close proximity and enjoyed them all. Also big fan of his TV show 'The Unit'. His stuff usually shows his theatre pedigree with the dialogue not always convincing but it it always zips along and is clever and inventive.
Not everyone agrees that Fury Road is a hit. The studios are especially concerned about the smaller than expected takings on the opening weekend and to that end they've altered their vision of the sequel.
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Village Roadshow Pictures is pleased to announce that after an amicable parting of the ways George Miller is moving on to new projects. Village Roadshow is committed to the Mad Max franchise, however, and have brought new talent to take over the franchise.
We are happy to have Peter Kay to write and direct the sequel to Mad Max: Fury Road.
When contacted Peter Kay had this to say:
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I'm very 'appy to be a part of the Maddy Maxie series of films. I'm right chuffed to be able to write a sequel the 'ole family can enjoy. Max Man: Furry Road was a great start, but now we can move on in a new and exciting direction.
The working title will be Angry Man Max: Car Sharemageddon...
Then I woke in a pool of sweat... :)
QuoteI'll be honest... I don't accept suggestions of the plot being a bit thin as any kind of criticism. Too many films are obsessed with structured, multi-act plots, but plot is merely the means by which theme and character are developed and explored.
I could not agree more.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, for me the emphasis on increasingly complex plots is the scourge of the modern blockbuster. It's like when Dredd came out and people said it had 'no plot' or was 'like a videogame'. It's like we've become so inured to these big, dense, plot-heavy blockbusters that we won't accept anything else - too many people just want to see films that are overloaded with 'stuff' - more twists, more explosions, more characters, ever-longer running times - to the point where they don't really think about the thing as a whole, and things like pacing and structure go out the window. I'm not saying every action film needs to be like Fury Road, or that blockbuster movies can't be more complex or character-focused, but I do hope modern action filmmakers learn a few lessons from it (though I suspect, unfortunately, that they will most likely completely miss the point and see it as an indication that they can jettison story and character development entirely...).
I actually think Fury Road is remarkable for just how much character development it packs in, despite having no obvious 'character-building' scenes. [spoiler]Nux gives you everything you need to understand the War Boys, to the point where you begin to feel sympathy for them. Though we don't get any flashbacks or backstory about exactly what Furiosa has done that she is seeking redemption for - we know that if she
must have done some awful things to reach her position as Joe's prize enforcer, and thank's to Charlize Theron's subtle performance, we can see it written all over her face.[/spoiler]
Do people
really think it would have been a better film if we'd had to sit through 30 minutes of slow dialogue scenes at the beginning, where we 'establish' all of the characters and see Furiosa planning the escape and putting her plan into action? No - it's the sign of a confident and well thought out film to throw you in at the deep end and trust you to be able to connect the dots yourself.
I can understand why some people might have a problem with Fury Road for being essentially one long chase sequence, but I never felt fatigued in the slightest. In fact I thought it was a kind of masterpiece in terms of pacing and editing. It felt like it was neatly divided into three distinct acts, and kept changing things up which kept it feeling fresh. The downtime between each act came at exactly the right moment in the action, and neither the action sequences nor the respite dragged (for me at least).
I've also seen criticism that the final fight with the main villains is underwhelming or anticlimactic, whereas I thought it was perfect - [spoiler]how refreshing to not have to go through that usual contrived action-movie bullshit of a villain being 'killed' only to come back again for yet another overblown fight?[/spoiler] I had a 'was that it?' reaction, but in a totally positive way.
The highest praise I can give it is that it's a film that actually gets better the more you think about it, when most of these kinds of films (coughUltron) completely fall apart the second you start to analyse them in any detail.
Quote from: radiator on 21 May, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
I've also seen criticism that the final fight with the main villains is underwhelming or anticlimactic, whereas I thought it was perfect - [spoiler]how refreshing to not have to go through that usual contrived action-movie bullshit of a villain being 'killed' only to come back again for yet another overblown fight?[/spoiler] I had a 'was that it?' reaction, but in a totally positive way.
[spoiler]Gah, it was IN NO WAY underwhelming - the film had spent some time slowly picking that old world apart and Immortan Joe's death was like lopping the head off the giant, the rest of that old society vainly struggled on but it was over from that point and its suddeness and crudeness (wonderful bit of metaphor - both tearing off his mouth and removing the breath that kept him alive at the same time) was exactly the right tone to strike. It very much stressed that it wasn't Joe who was the Big Bad Guy, it was the whole system he sat at the head of.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Molch-R on 21 May, 2015, 05:58:14 PM
Quote from: radiator on 21 May, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
I've also seen criticism that the final fight with the main villains is underwhelming or anticlimactic, whereas I thought it was perfect - [spoiler]how refreshing to not have to go through that usual contrived action-movie bullshit of a villain being 'killed' only to come back again for yet another overblown fight?[/spoiler] I had a 'was that it?' reaction, but in a totally positive way.
[spoiler]Gah, it was IN NO WAY underwhelming - the film had spent some time slowly picking that old world apart and Immortan Joe's death was like lopping the head off the giant, the rest of that old society vainly struggled on but it was over from that point and its suddeness and crudeness (wonderful bit of metaphor - both tearing off his mouth and removing the breath that kept him alive at the same time) was exactly the right tone to strike. It very much stressed that it wasn't Joe who was the Big Bad Guy, it was the whole system he sat at the head of.[/spoiler]
Yep, totally. I got the impression that Joe was [spoiler]kind of all mouth and no trousers - the sculpted muscles on his armour, getting his lackeys to do his fighting for him etc.
The moment of his death was 'jaw dropping' as my friend quipped.[/spoiler]
I remember Dredd getting similar complaints - ie that there was no big, drawn-out fight with Ma Ma at the end, when I thought it was wonderful that instead they flipped the whole thing and turned her demise into something strangely beautiful and reflective.
Quote from: radiator on 21 May, 2015, 05:42:55 PM
Do people really think it would have been a better film if we'd had to sit through 30 minutes of slow dialogue scenes at the beginning, where we 'establish' all of the characters and see Furiosa planning the escape and putting her plan into action?
I came to this film very cold, and I loved that: the slow dawning over the course of the first few minutes...
"Oh, she's already done
something...!"Cheers
Jim
I loved the Nux character. I really thought he'd be [spoiler]used for a bit of comic relief and/or to tag along and throw a spanner in the works before being quickly killed off, and he ended up being completely vital to the story in more ways than one.[/spoiler]
Quote from: radiator on 21 May, 2015, 06:33:36 PM
I really thought he'd be
[spoiler]I honestly thought he was dead, and Max was going to spend a chunk of the movie dragging his corpse around. As you say: excellent character development, particularly when you realise that he's as much a victim as the others...[/spoiler]
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: radiator on 21 May, 2015, 06:33:36 PM
I loved the Nux character. I really thought he'd be [spoiler]used for a bit of comic relief and/or to tag along and throw a spanner in the works before being quickly killed off, and he ended up being completely vital to the story in more ways than one.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Better yet, by the end Nux has come full circle. From a mindless follower to a warrior with a cause. I had a lump in my throat as he realized he was going to get his trip to Valhalla after all, but on his own terms and for a worthy reason.[/spoiler]
Quoteon a rewatch I appreciated that there's actually a great deal of discipline to the pacing of the whole thing, it takes its foot off the gas just enough at just the right places.
The best review I've read so far (can't remember where, sadly) nailed it for me - it's a film that is somehow simultaneously ridiculously over the top and incredibly restrained.
Quote from: radiator on 21 May, 2015, 06:33:36 PM
I loved the Nux character. I really thought he'd be [spoiler]used for a bit of comic relief and/or to tag along and throw a spanner in the works before being quickly killed off, and he ended up being completely vital to the story in more ways than one.[/spoiler]
Aye, Nux was the surprise standout - far and away he best character for me. He had the most fulfilling character arc of the lot.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 21 May, 2015, 03:09:43 PM
I was thinking more about [spoiler]the ladies fleeing across a vast desert with a limited water supply - but taking time out to hose themselves down rather than washing in a bucket![/spoiler]
It was only a niggle - it's always amused me in all the MM films that a world where petrol is so scarce seems to be populated by people who do nothing hut drive round and round the desert!
Or it's making the greater point that humans are wasteful bastards who will squander dwindling resources no matter the circumstances or consequences - just as we're doing at the moment.
Quote from: Molch-R on 21 May, 2015, 05:58:14 PM
...It very much stressed that it wasn't Joe who was the Big Bad Guy, it was the whole system he sat at the head of.
I know that as viewers our sympathies are supposed to be firmly with Max and Fury... but in the context of that world is Joe not one of the best things that could have happened to it?
He's marshalled together all these hundreds of people who'd
long have since have died had they tried going it alone, and centralised the survivors in a place where water and food can be provided for
every last one. Every one of these citizens has been given a role to play - right down to the mutated, the maimed, the irradiated. And not only does everyone have a purpose (and, therefore, a reason for living), but in the Valhalla mythology Joe's given everyone back
belief - those with the shortest life expectancy (the War Boys) are given the most self-worth of all! And while he's been nothing but inclusive of society's genetic dregs, he's also working on a breeding programme to produce pure bloodlines again. He's single-handedly on the way to making civilisation a viable option once more. Without him what would there be, but a few radioactive stragglers picking a living in the dust, waiting for death?
The Humongous from MM2, by contrast,
was an out-and-out baddie - just out for what he could get for him and his gang and anyone weaker than them was considered prey. Immortan Joe is a hero!*
*
Shame about the 'blood banks', but nobody's perfect.
But IJ [spoiler]hasn't created his breeding program for the benefit of everyone. He needs a genetically-pure male heir. That's his only reasoning. To continue his rule. His other sons clearly aren't up to the task.[/spoiler]
It's also pretty clear he has no intention of sharing the commodities he sits on with everyone. Sharing a tiny amount of his water supply is quite literally a symbol of the "trickle-down effect" the Republicans and conservatives love to spout off about over here in the US. "If I own everything, then ehhh, eventually some of it might get down to you" thinking.
Jimbo, yes he managed to build some semblance of order. But A) there's no reason to belive that totalitarian dictatorship is the ONLY way to preserve order, even in the apocalypse; B) his form of rule is inevitably doomed to decline and failure, because to maintain his fiefdom he'd be forced to eliminate all dissent and opposition as a matter of course. So once Joe dies all practical leadership dies with him. The power vacuum alone will kill what he,s built. not to mention how such a repressed society has no hope of future progress. His kingdom's long term survivability is as much of a sham as he is.
And most importantly, C) Ends don't justfy means.
On another note, isn't it a relief to discuss a summer movie without it falling into the usual "It's shit!"/"No it's not!" divide...?
Not advocating his style of doing things per se, I should stress, just thought it was an interesting alternative viewpoint to flag up. As civilised early-21st century folks our natural reaction is against Joe, but I don't know that someone who's grown up in the post-apocalyptic Outback would necessarily feel the same...
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 21 May, 2015, 08:25:13 PM
I don't know that someone who's grown up in the post-apocalyptic Outback would necessarily feel the same...
We should ask Thryllseekyr...
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 May, 2015, 08:18:29 PM
On another note, isn't it a relief to discuss a summer movie without it falling into the usual "It's shit!"/"No it's not!" divide...?
I left the cinema with hope myself and I was in shock that I enjoyed the film so much
I haven't been there, myself. I haven't even been to the dead centre.....Ayres-Rock.
I live on the south east coast and just stay put. Yet, I have been to Sydney, Melbourne, Cairns, Perth, Adelaide, and on Stradbroke and another island, up near Mount Island.
I've been to the Alps down south for a sking holiday.
Just got back from it. When it started the cynic in me immediately went 'oh ho hum, more stylised post-apocalyptic nonsense with some vehicular action that I've probably seen a million times before', so I settled in for the long haul (excuse the pun).
But then it got better, and better, and better, and then astounding, and then amazing, and stayed amazing right until the end.
Despite what people have suggested re little plot and no real character development, I say bollocks to that - there's loads!! It's just all by inference instead of a Basil Exposition turning up every ten minutes. That earns the film major points from me.
It's not all constant action either, as some have suggested. There were carefully placed lulls, albeit with threats still looming large, which gave you time to come up for air before it all kicked off again.
Yeah, superb. Easily the best Mad Max film ever.
PS - It had Brendan Mccarthy's hand all over it.
PPS - it was totally the Cursed Earth. It even had [spoiler]a vehicle that looked like the landraider/Killdozer [/spoiler]in it!!!
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 21 May, 2015, 10:55:50 PM
It's not all constant action either, as some have suggested. There were carefully placed lulls, albeit with threats still looming large...
Yeah, loved all those dialogue scenes that had the vehicles of Joe's war fleet shimmering on the horizon and the distant blare of the guitarist, reminding you that the lull is temporary at best...
Think Brendan only worked on it back in the late 90's/early 00's during it's first attempt to be made (although I'm happy to be proven wrong!). I'd love to know how different (if at all) it was going to be when Mel was attached to it. Rumors of it being set hundreds of years in the future, rumors of Heath Ledger playing Max's son, rumors, rumors, rumors.
Also, seeing as we know FR's "script" was thousands of detailed storyboards, wouldn't it be something to have all those published someday?
The Art Of book is pretty astounding, by the way. Well worth the dosh. Brendan's art is magnificent but there's great contributions from everyone in there. Get to see what the Bullet Farm and Gastown look like. Fleshes out quite a bit of it, as well.
It's mentioned in there that the opening scene in the movie [spoiler]is Max about to cross the Plains of Silence in the Interceptor, which is a real nice touch seeing as he convinces Furiosa and co it's a mistake to try that later on.[/spoiler]
Shit folks. I could talk about this movie all day and night.
Something that was bugging me was the two blokes on stilts that Max looks over at in the dark region. I'm sure they are from a detail from a Dali, Bosch or Bruegel painting but can't fine them anywhere - any ideas?
All of the above?
Bosch
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/aa/e0/cd/aae0cd8df8c1a8f68de6ada06898822f.jpg)
Bruegel
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/BRU_-_CHD_22.jpg/100px-BRU_-_CHD_22.jpg)
Dali
(http://www.surrealists.co.uk/artistsimages/SalvadorDali-TheenigmaofWilliamTell1933.jpg)
They reminded me of that McMahon Slaine page; Slaine and Ukko riding pigs through a swamp past various stiltwalkers (and a zombie).
I heard in a review (It was on a video somewhere....) that they're is definite feminist vibe about this film.
Is this noticeably true.....
If by 'Feminist' they mean 'where women are treated like people with complicated motivations and characterizations instead of being treated as objects or set dress'. Then yes. It's a noticeably 'feminist' movie.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 21 May, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 21 May, 2015, 05:58:14 PM
...It very much stressed that it wasn't Joe who was the Big Bad Guy, it was the whole system he sat at the head of.
I know that as viewers our sympathies are supposed to be firmly with Max and Fury... but in the context of that world is Joe not one of the best things that could have happened to it?
He's marshalled together all these hundreds of people who'd long have since have died had they tried going it alone, and centralised the survivors in a place where water and food can be provided for every last one. Every one of these citizens has been given a role to play - right down to the mutated, the maimed, the irradiated. And not only does everyone have a purpose (and, therefore, a reason for living), but in the Valhalla mythology Joe's given everyone back belief - those with the shortest life expectancy (the War Boys) are given the most self-worth of all! And while he's been nothing but inclusive of society's genetic dregs, he's also working on a breeding programme to produce pure bloodlines again. He's single-handedly on the way to making civilisation a viable option once more. Without him what would there be, but a few radioactive stragglers picking a living in the dust, waiting for death?
The Humongous from MM2, by contrast, was an out-and-out baddie - just out for what he could get for him and his gang and anyone weaker than them was considered prey. Immortan Joe is a hero!*
*Shame about the 'blood banks', but nobody's perfect.
Thinking about it, I would think Aunty Entity in Thunderdome fits this profile more than IJ, right? (I know Thunderdome gets no love compared to the others but I have a real soft spot for that one. Sorry.) She's devoted her life to rebuilding civilization. Granted, it all has to be on her terms.
Fucking hell!
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 May, 2015, 01:51:48 AM
If by 'Feminist' they mean 'where women are treated like people with complicated motivations and characterizations instead of being treated as objects or set dress'. Then yes. It's a noticeably 'feminist' movie.
Also, MRA's hate the movie. That by default means it's a good movie.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 21 May, 2015, 11:49:41 PM
They reminded me of that McMahon Slaine page; Slaine and Ukko riding pigs through a swamp past various stiltwalkers (and a zombie).
Absolutely the first thing I thought of.
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/Warriors_Dawn_Splash_zpsgb2vorhv.jpg)
(Although I have this vague feeling that there might have been something similar in an episode of The Storyteller, with which McCarthy was strongly involved...)
Cheers
Jim
Also reminiscent of the Wheeler's from Return to Oz
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/jimmyalpha2008/5228074656_e5bf295c4c_m.jpg)
Looks like it was a Dark Crystal and Miyazaki mash up.
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/02/11/dark-crystal-and-miyazaki-combine-in-beautifully-terrifying-stilt-spirit-costume-2679378?lt_source=external,manual (http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/02/11/dark-crystal-and-miyazaki-combine-in-beautifully-terrifying-stilt-spirit-costume-2679378?lt_source=external,manual)
Still think I've seen something similar in an painting but I do imagine things on there pills!
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 May, 2015, 01:51:48 AM
If by 'Feminist' they mean 'where women are treated like people with complicated motivations and characterizations instead of being treated as objects or set dress'. Then yes. It's a noticeably 'feminist' movie.
Not so sure about that, but I guess that it may I. I might go through my internet history to find the video I heard about that stuff.
I'm more concerned about the dark side of feminism, just read
Slaine - Demon-Killer for what I meant by that personally.
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 22 May, 2015, 10:46:08 AM
I'm more concerned about the dark side of feminism, just read Slaine - Demon-Killer for what I meant by that personally.
I think you may be confusing Feminism for Misandry - please don't.
Misandry doesn't exist.
Mysogyny isn't about hate as much as systemic opression. If Misandry is to be considered an gender reversel of mysog then it simply doesn'y hold up.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 22 May, 2015, 11:04:57 AM
If Misandry is to be considered an gender reversel of mysog then it simply doesn'y hold up.
I'm not sure you get to use your own definitions of words...
Cheers
Jim
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Quote from: Hawkmonger on 22 May, 2015, 11:04:57 AM
If Misandry is to be considered an gender reversel of mysog then it simply doesn'y hold up.
I'm not sure you get to use your own definitions of words...
Cheers
Jim
I don't understand what you are getting at...misandry is a lie perpetrated by MRA's to try and justify their attitudes. Mysogyny is a universal issue and manifests in any number of oppressive measures.
To clarify - I was using the definition here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misandry (Sorry for derailing the thread!)
Also:
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 22 May, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
I don't understand what you are getting at...misandry is a lie perpetrated by MRA's to try and justify their attitudes. Mysogyny is a universal issue and manifests in any number of oppressive measures.
Misandry does exist - just more at an individual level, and nowhere near the scale that Mysogyny does. TS seemed confused that Mad Max had a Misandrist agenda, instead of being a slightly feminist movie.
Goodbye Mad Max: Fury Road thread...
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 22 May, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
I don't understand what you are getting at...misandry is a lie perpetrated by MRA's to try and justify their attitudes.
The word 'misandry' has a legitimate meaning and usage, which may have been co-opted and distorted by fucktards like the Gamergaters and the Sad Puppies, but that only means that we should defend its correct meaning, not cede the linguistic territory and allow right-wing misogynist cretins to distort the language in support of their agenda.
'Misandry' may not exist in the context you chose to apply, but I would contend that the context was not appropriate in terms of its usage here.
Jim
I...disagree. Just because something has a definition does not make it a 'thing' that happens. Yeah, sure, you'll get women who hate men. But i'm willing to bet the primary reason for that is due to the patriarchal system we live in, men ARE treated better than women in this world where rape culture, unequal wages, and street harassment are rife amongst other issues. You can't blame a woman for being bitter with the world when a good portion of the men in her life are complete low life, sexist scum. I know it, I work in an environment thats incredibly sexist, many of my family are sexist, it's a horrifying truth about this world. Mysogyny is perpetrated as a sytemic problem, misandry exists through a handful of (rightly) very embittered people.
So yes, i'll concede the point that although Misandry might exist by deffinition, it isn't anywhere near as big a problem as people make out.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 22 May, 2015, 11:40:41 AM
So yes, i'll concede the point that although Misandry might exist by deffinition, it isn't anywhere near as big a problem as people make out.
You're derailing this thread with an argument no one was making. Which was my point.
Jim
Oh. Right. Sorry,.....erm.......but wasn't Furiosa such a breath of fresh air! :D
I've been thinking about this film quite a bit since I saw it and the bit that keeps coming back to me is when [spoiler]Max tries to shoot Nux's arm off to free the cuffs. It's pure fluke that Max has loaded a duff cartridge.[/spoiler] I think that's a pretty scary scene in retrospect.
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...It very much stressed that it wasn't Joe who was the Big Bad Guy, it was the whole system he sat at the head of.
I know that as viewers our sympathies are supposed to be firmly with Max and Fury... but in the context of that world is Joe not one of the best things that could have happened to it?
Thinking about it, I would think Aunty Entity in Thunderdome fits this profile more than IJ, right? (I know Thunderdome gets no love compared to the others but I have a real soft spot for that one. Sorry.) She's devoted her life to rebuilding civilization. Granted, it all has to be on her terms.
Yeah, Aunty Entity came to mind several times when writing that lengthy post about Immortan Joe. They've got very different approaches but both her and Joe are essentially trying to do the same thing in response to the global catastrophe.
Quote from: JamesC on 22 May, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
I've been thinking about this film quite a bit since I saw it and the bit that keeps coming back to me is when [spoiler]Max tries to shoot Nux's arm off to free the cuffs. It's pure fluke that Max has loaded a duff cartridge.[/spoiler] I think that's a pretty scary scene in retrospect.
It's a real glimmer of the old Max - when he handcuffs the biker to the burning car at the end of the first film and gives him a hacksaw, telling him he'll get through his own flesh quicker than the steel of the handcuffs.
It does feel very brutal and callous that moment, one of those points where you feel the cinema tense up because they're about to see something a bit brutal!
Think it works great in conveying just how survival-focused the character is. He's almost like a feral animal in Fury Road, survival instinct is all that's left [spoiler]until he obviously finds some humanity to claw back once he meets Furiosa. The fact that his immediate instinct when the shotgun misfires is to start chewing Nux's hand off really punctuates that! There really is some brilliant character development in the movie, and it gives the action the weight it needs to be as impactful as it is (nothing makes an action movie feel more empty than a lack of proper motivation).[/spoiler]
QuoteYeah, Aunty Entity came to mind several times when writing that lengthy post about Immortan Joe. They've got very different approaches but both her and Joe are essentially trying to do the same thing in response to the global catastrophe.
Yes, they're both trying to subvert human freedom for their own personal gain in the short term. If you think anything either has done is to help humanity survive long term, you're not really paying attention. Anything that looks like it benefits the whole is just bread and circuses to keep the populus from revolting.
We actively see Entity supressing any challenge to her power by the way she deals with Master Blaster. Master's trying to keep the power on for humanity's benefit, Entiry only sees it as another way to control people.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 May, 2015, 04:11:15 PM
QuoteYeah, Aunty Entity came to mind several times when writing that lengthy post about Immortan Joe. They've got very different approaches but both her and Joe are essentially trying to do the same thing in response to the global catastrophe.
Yes, they're both trying to subvert human freedom for their own personal gain in the short term. If you think anything either has done is to help humanity survive long term, you're not really paying attention.
I'm not saying they're
nice people - and freedom's a nice luxury for a civilised person with a full belly. But what would it even mean in that world, beyond the freedom to starve, alone, out in the desert? The unwashed masses of Bartertown and Citadel aren't prisoners, after all - they can leave any time they like. Aunty and Joe would probably both say 'If you think you can find better, go get it.'
There are quite a few levels of comfort between being crushed to death by a brutal dictatorship and dying 'free' in a radioactive desert.
The refinery guys from Road Warrior were getting along just fine before Lord Humungus and his gang turned up to kick their sand castle over. They were working together as a community of equals working toward the long term survivability of the group. And when push came to shove they fought and sacrificed for one another.
And Freedom should never be a luxury.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 May, 2015, 04:11:15 PM
QuoteYeah, Aunty Entity came to mind several times when writing that lengthy post about Immortan Joe. They've got very different approaches but both her and Joe are essentially trying to do the same thing in response to the global catastrophe.
Yes, they're both trying to subvert human freedom for their own personal gain in the short term. If you think anything either has done is to help humanity survive long term, you're not really paying attention. Anything that looks like it benefits the whole is just bread and circuses to keep the populus from revolting.
You are describing Western capitalism.
I believe that's the point Miller is making.
In thunderdome there is a war boy in that
Put simply, I don't support feminism all the way, not to the point when women are like monsters walking all over men to get what they think they need. In fact I don't support feminism at all, because in this day and age and as far as I am concerned I think they reached the platue (No more climbing for them!)
It's like we have always been living in woman's world. None them seem to be helping me out with my problems.
Anymore power to them is surplus to demands.
I've never been familar with that word you used.....
Quote from: ProxianMisandry does exist - just more at an individual level, and nowhere near the scale that Mysogyny does. TS seemed confused that Mad Max had a Misandrist agenda, instead of being a slightly feminist movie.
Not confused at all, I just haven't seen the film yet and heard on internet video I was playing while looking at something else that this film is strong on that woman's thing and I thought I would add that while it may be great on some levels. I don't want to see anybody like myself become matryed or a victim to this. Naturally.
Why>????
Because I'm a guy largly ignored by women.
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Double Facepalm x2 Combo
Here's a 70 year old woman's review of Fury Road. This is gold.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/05/19/mad-max-fury-road-as-reviewed-by-my-70-year-old-mother-in-law
QuotePut simply, I don't support feminism all the way, not to the point when women are like monsters walking all over men to get what they think they need. In fact I don't support feminism at all, because in this day and age and as far as I am concerned I think they reached the platue (No more climbing for them!)
If you want to have this conversation, have it elsewhere. Not here.
To make it clear: this is a thread about Mad Max Fury Road. That is ALL that will be discussed here.
YOU VOTED FOR HIM CLEMENTS
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 May, 2015, 06:25:55 PM
I believe that's the point Miller is making.
I don't believe so. With the way Immortan makes people fight over what little water he throws into the street, the economy of Fury Road is
literally trickle-down economics in action, only Immortan has actually found a way to make TDE work the way it's supposed to, so he has actually taken Western capitalism and made it
better.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 22 May, 2015, 07:26:59 PM
QuotePut simply, I don't support feminism all the way, not to the point when women are like monsters walking all over men to get what they think they need. In fact I don't support feminism at all, because in this day and age and as far as I am concerned I think they reached the platue (No more climbing for them!)
If you want to have this conversation, have it elsewhere. Not here.
To make it clear: this is a thread about Mad Max Fury Road. That is ALL that will be discussed here.
Just replying to their comments, I think there was misunderstanding and there still is by all appearances.
Quote from: Lesbian Seagull on 22 May, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
I don't believe so. With the way Immortan makes people fight over what little water he throws into the street, the economy of Fury Road is literally trickle-down economics in action, only Immortan has actually found a way to make TDE work the way it's supposed to, so he has actually taken Western capitalism and made it better.
I dunno, mate. Not sure I'd choose holding up a battered basin in a starving, fighting crowd over turning on the taps and taking the odd trip to Lidl.
As for the film - yeah, loved it; wasn't going to see it again but this thread has inspired me to do so. Mad Max 2 was the first 'grown-up' film I ever saw, and made a ridiculously deep impact on me. (If you'd known 'Mad Mike', my private imaginary nuclear-wasteland-dwelling alter-ego, you'd think twice before messing with me, I'll tell you.)
Just to make my point clear regarding the[spoiler] shotgun to Nux's wrist[/spoiler].
In Mad Max, the guy at the end is someone that Max hates. It's someone that he has a legitimate reason to punish. The justice system has collapsed so he takes it upon himself.
In Mad Max 2 it's made explicitly clear that Humungous's forces are the baddies. They are shown killing and raping innocent people. There's no real moral dilemma presented to the viewer over how the baddie forces are treated at the end of the film.
In Thunderdome things are made more complex. Blaster is shown to be an exploited innocent, incapable of understanding his place in the wider society.
This theme is continued in Fury Road. [spoiler]Nux, and by extension the rest of the War Boys, are also exploited innocents. They have no understanding of the wider world or of the society that Max remembers. This makes the prospect of Max shooting off Nux's hand as horrific as if if he had smashed Blaster's head with that big hammer.[/spoiler] Yet he almost did.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 22 May, 2015, 05:45:39 PM
There are quite a few levels of comfort between being crushed to death by a brutal dictatorship and dying 'free' in a radioactive desert....
Granted. Things didn't work out too well for Furiosa's folk, but the refugees from Road Warrior and the children who set up in the ruins of Sydney after Thunderdome are all presumably doing okay for themselves.
I
do know that Joe is essentially a nasty bastard, but I find it interesting to try to get into the headspace of someone who's signed up for his society (and going by the rationale that the baddie never considers themselves a baddie, presumably also how Joe rationalises his own actions.)
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 22 May, 2015, 09:02:14 PMThings didn't work out too well for Furiosa's folk, but the refugees from Road Warrior and the children who set up in the ruins of Sydney after Thunderdome are all presumably doing okay for themselves.
There's something I was wondering... is this a continuation of the events of Thunderdrome or is it a reboot? Either way up I'm happy; Tom Hardy is a great Max (and a great pretty much every other character he plays too). Also, it was set in Australia, wasn't it? There were quite a few yank-ish accents in it, and it was hard to tell exactly what kind of accent Max had (not that he had a whole lot to say for himself, mind you).
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 22 May, 2015, 08:43:14 PM
Not sure I'd choose holding up a battered basin in a starving, fighting crowd
You don't understand, that is
exactly the premise of trickle-down economics, or as it was called in the 1800s when it was thoroughly discredited, the "horse and sparrow" economy, because the basic premise is that the horse gets all the oats it wants and sooner or later it'll shit out an oat or two that it hasn't fully digested and the sparrows can fight over that. In other words: trickle-down economics is
literally a horseshit economic theory.
Quoteover turning on the taps and taking the odd trip to Lidl.
I'd sooner have the poxyclips than shop at Lidl.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 22 May, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
There's something I was wondering... is this a continuation of the events of Thunderdrome or is it a reboot?
From two different interviews with George Miller:
QuoteWhere does "Fury Road" sit in the timeline of the "Mad Max" films?
It's a bit complicated. The first film was a few years from now. "Road Warrior" was maybe 15 years later. This film is 45 years from now. This one happens in a more reduced landscape, where it's now treeless.
And:
QuoteIf this film had to be fit into the timeline of the other three films, where does it go?
It's not precise chronology, because I never intended for there to be, but after the last one. After Thunderdome.
Shortly after, not 30 years after?
Yeah, like James Bond. He doesn't get old over, what, half a century now? It's the same thing. To me, it all starts next Wednesday, when all the bad things we see in the news happen and stuff we never saw coming. Jump 45 or 50 years hence and all the coastal cities have been razed and there's been a migration into the center of this world. And a new type of human ecology with a dominance hierarchy ruled by the warlord that controls the resources.
Ok, I get you. Thanks, Jimbo! It's odd, the Max films always leapt forward dramatically in terms of apocalyptic-ness from film to film. The first one didn't look a whole lot different from the area I grew up in; even though it's on the other side of the world. Though there weren't quite as many anarchist mohawk bikers in Kells, County Meath in the 80s.
I get the feeling a bit of time had past between Mad Max and Road Warrior, between which time's the apocalypse as TRUELY begun with the end of one war or another. Mad Max seem's to be a very unique film in that it's kind of a police force at the end of humanity story, before going full Death Wish.
Supposedly three years between the first MM and MM2, although it's interesting to read Miller's older interviews where he says the end has already happened in MM and Max and the MFP are just about existing in the very last remnants of "civilized" society. Another fifteen years on then for Beyond Thunderdome and as it would have been with Mel attached, another twenty or so for Fury Road. Although with Hardy in the part now, it all enters James Bond territory. Yes it's Max, but don't try to make a logical chronological timeline out of it.
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Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 22 May, 2015, 06:43:56 PMSome utter crap...
*Sigh*
You just started a fight there buddy!!!!
Not a battle of wits, presumably.
TAKE YOUR MEDICATION.
I quite convinced of my own views on feminism and what ever else you have thought I was talking about previously on this thread, but
Proxian is just trolling me...messing with my words like that!
Continuing with this later...
Blimey!
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 22 May, 2015, 11:34:55 PM
Continuing with this later...
Please don't. You've already been warned by a moderator to stop derailing the conversation with this boring argument. What you're talking about has nothing to do with the film -
which you haven't seen. You (and anyone else who wants to discuss feminism) are free to raise the topic on the politics thread.
Quote from: blackmocco on 22 May, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
Here's a 70 year old woman's review of Fury Road. This is gold.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/05/19/mad-max-fury-road-as-reviewed-by-my-70-year-old-mother-in-law
Love it! Even my father, well into his sixties now, recommended I go see it. I'm glad he did - it was awesome!
A little bit of interesting stuff about the next film
Mad Max: The Wasteland and what's still to come.
QuoteBefore Mad Max: Fury Road was even in cinemas, it'd been revealed that another three or four movies were being lined up. Speaking on The Q&A with Jeff Goldsmith, Miller has now revealed the title of the next movie in the franchise.
The director confirmed that the official title of the next film will be Mad Max: The Wasteland before adding, "We've got one screenplay and a novella. It happened because with the delays and writing all the backstories, they just expanded."
The delays that Miller makes reference to are the ones that saw Fury Road take 14 years to come to be, with the planning for the film initially beginning way back in 2001.
In an additional interesting note from another interview with The Daily Beast, writer/director Miller also revealed that Heath Ledger was at one point in his mind to play Max Rockatansky, speaking several times to the sadly-deceased Ledger about the role. Miller alluded, "He [Ledger] had that same thing that Mel [Gibson] and Tom Hardy have – that maleness, charisma, and restless energy, which you need to play a relatively still character. The world lost someone great when he went. Tom was the next to walk through the door that had that vibe."
No release date has been given for Mad Max: The Wasteland at this stage, although various reports claim that the some of the next films, if not all of them, will be prequels to Mad Max: Fury Road. Tom Hardy himself has recently revealed that he's signed up for four more Mad Max movies.
I have now seen the real Cursed Earth on film.
Just read the first in a four part Mad Max comic series, Immortan Joe and NUX , The back stories to both characters. Issue 2 is about Furiosa and 3 and 4 are about Max and that girl he keeps seeing.
Quote from: Judge Nutmeg on 23 May, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Just read the first in a four part Mad Max comic series, Immortan Joe and NUX , The back stories to both characters. Issue 2 is about Furiosa and 3 and 4 are about Max and that girl he keeps seeing.
George Miller is 70. Let's hope he makes the next three at a quicker rate than the 30-year gap between Thinderdome and Fury Road.
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Quote from: Judge Nutmeg on 23 May, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Just read the first in a four part Mad Max comic series, Immortan Joe and NUX , The back stories to both characters. Issue 2 is about Furiosa and 3 and 4 are about Max and that girl he keeps seeing.
George Miller is 70. Let's hope he makes the next three at a quicker rate than the 30-year gap between Thinderdome and Fury Road.
in another 30 years we might all be livng like Max. :lol:
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Quote from: Judge Nutmeg on 23 May, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Just read the first in a four part Mad Max comic series, Immortan Joe and NUX , The back stories to both characters. Issue 2 is about Furiosa and 3 and 4 are about Max and that girl he keeps seeing.
George Miller is 70. Let's hope he makes the next three at a quicker rate than the 30-year gap between Thinderdome and Fury Road.
I'm starting earlier.
in another 30 years we might all be livng like Max. :lol:
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Quote from: Judge Nutmeg on 23 May, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Just read the first in a four part Mad Max comic series, Immortan Joe and NUX , The back stories to both characters. Issue 2 is about Furiosa and 3 and 4 are about Max and that girl he keeps seeing.
George Miller is 70. Let's hope he makes the next three at a quicker rate than the 30-year gap between Thinderdome and Fury Road.
in another 30 years we might all be livng like Max. :lol:
I really mean to put it hear.......
[ib]I"M STARTING NOW!!!![/b]
Providing I'm not one of those albino freaks and forced to ride the hell roller-coaster across a barren desert. I think I would prefer living with the free people in the green territories. If they would let me.
Because that type of world, everybody is awake at the expense of cable television and internet and police.
I wish I could do something like, now, I would almost trade in everything I have (Bar my current heatlh!) for life... maybe in a shanty new some beach and the means to continue living and enjoying life.
I did see the film this very night and was thrilled from the very visuals of....I can't even find words to describe, and I thought I was seeing fragments....concepts taken inspired by the art of
Simon Bisley's - Heavy Metal F.R.A.K.K......
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltc8x4cBKV1qmg4b2o1_500.jpg)
I just noticed this picture now and think I remember a dude dressed a bit like this above!
And at times it was so bloody close to
Slaine - Warriors Dawn which is why I loved and hate this film at the same time.
It's got stuff from the beloved
Slaine in it and it's not even
Slaine.
Not to worry, I still think it's possible to harvest the same some times, gritty, sometimes desolate, always dystopian, always harsh (This is the
CURSED-EARTH!!!!!) aspects of this film and recycle them again......
Quote from: Judge Brian on 23 May, 2015, 06:28:22 AM
I have now seen the real Cursed Earth on film.
I was thinking that myself at times when watching fury road, And how cool would it of been if dredd had of been a hit at the box office and george miller had signed on to direct the dredd sequel set in the cursed earth. :'(
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I have now seen the real Cursed Earth on film.
I was thinking that myself at times when watching fury road, And how cool would it of been if dredd had of been a hit at the box office and george miller had signed on to direct the dredd sequel set in the cursed earth. :'(
I've said before some one should start touting around the dredd 2 script again on the back of the success of fury road, some other studio is going to want something similar and surely a script with a t-rex in post apocalyptic landscape is enough to get some suit salivating at the possibilities. Look at how different mad max and road warrior look someone's just got to take a risk.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch: seen it five times now. Gets better each time. Even tried it in 3D to shake things up. Doesn't add anything.
Even more sad news: Watched MM2 at the weekend (to fill the void of not seeing FR again) and for the first time in my life <sob!> it looked a little dated. My favorite movie - by a huge margin - and it all felt a little quaint after seeing what the new one can do.
I had been suspecting that MM2 might lose a bit of its magic after seeing this one! MM2 was always my favorite, haven't been back to it since Fury Road but since it does pretty much everything I loved about 2 and then some I'm thinking it'll emerge as the better film.
Went for my 3rd watch yesterday and it still felt fresh as a daisy and as exciting as ever. First viewing was 3D and since then I've been going 2D, I didn't find the 3D added anything either (except a duller image thanks to the glasses)! I didn't really sense any added depth to speak of, and I'm all for 3D in the cases that it works.
The 3D was okay, but after a while I stopped noticing it.
One film where 3D really came into it's own for me was that film starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney a couple of years back. Gravity. (The name jsut came to me.) Not my favourite film (although it is decent) but boy did the 3D look good,.
I don't intend that as a criticism of Mad Max Fury Road. It was excellent with and without 3D.
seen it for third time today road warrior is still my favourite though
I loved fury road and tom hardy nailed it as max i can't wait to see it again, But the road warrior is still the best in the series for me.
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 May, 2015, 03:52:29 PMEven more sad news: Watched MM2 at the weekend (to fill the void of not seeing FR again) and for the first time in my life <sob!> it looked a little dated. My favorite movie - by a huge margin - and it all felt a little quaint after seeing what the new one can do.
It's astonishing that the fourth
Mad Max film after 30 years might be the best and the one with the most to say. It only has one thing I don't like but it's not worth going on about. I just want more George Miller/Brendan McCarthy films.
Got back from the cinema about an hour ago. Saw it in 2D. Wow! Can't say much more than that. It really doesn't let up - I think I might need a lie down! The action if pretty much non-stop, with a bit of a pause, and then back into the action again... Don't think I've seen a film that simply doesn't let up like that for two hours. Incredible! Particularly impressed with Charlize Theron's performance.
As for whether it's better than MM2. They are different, and I like them both. But if forced to choose, I'd probably go with MM2 simply because it blew me away at such a young age. Whilst Fury Road did blew me away, I'm too old now for it to have that lasting effect that a movie does when you are young... Or am I? Time will tell, I guess :)
If I had one criticism of Fury Road... [spoiler]Very little V8 Interceptor - and it gets trashed TWICE! I was practically in tears the second time... The upcoming comic I think explains how Max rebuilds it (as a prequel to this film, he's going to have to start again now!) [/spoiler]
The latest videogame trailer released today definitely seems geared to capitalize on the current Fury Road excitement (it's certainly got a pre-order out of me) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TsYIpYow7D0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TsYIpYow7D0)
Looks like while not being a straight tie-in to the movie it does riff off it a lot. I'm sure I saw a Thunderdome in one of the screenshots too. Pretty excited for it, the idea of a potentially decent Mad Max videogame is exciting enough, but doubly so right now when I'm hungry to get as much Max as I can get in my veins.
Thunderdome-PLUS, apparently. [spoiler]It's where Max wins the engine to his Interceptor.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Simon Beigh on 26 May, 2015, 04:47:41 PM
As for whether it's better than MM2. They are different, and I like them both. But if forced to choose, I'd probably go with MM2 simply because it blew me away at such a young age. Whilst Fury Road did blew me away, I'm too old now for it to have that lasting effect that a movie does when you are young... Or am I? Time will tell, I guess :)
Good post, SB. And yes, it's grand when something new comes along and blow's you away.
For me, not a lot does now, but that makes it all the more sweeter, when it does. Cant beat a new, and unexpected 'instant fave'.
Super keen to see this, and i'd meant to see it last Saturday, but a friends birthday needed to be celebrated, so that put paid to that. Hopefully this coming weekend, if not sooner..
Just been to see it....absolutely loved it !!! :D
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 26 May, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
The latest videogame trailer released today definitely seems geared to capitalize on the current Fury Road excitement (it's certainly got a pre-order out of me) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TsYIpYow7D0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TsYIpYow7D0)
Looks like while not being a straight tie-in to the movie it does riff off it a lot. I'm sure I saw a Thunderdome in one of the screenshots too. Pretty excited for it, the idea of a potentially decent Mad Max videogame is exciting enough, but doubly so right now when I'm hungry to get as much Max as I can get in my veins.
The game is looking very promising indeed, but im a bit confused is that supposed to be rictus erectus (That name :lol:) in the video. And hopefully there's bikes in the game as i loved the scene in fury road were max and furiosa are fighting off the bikers who attack the war rig tanker, the movie is very much like a video game.
Loved the first five minutes where It was more like Dirty Frank: Fury Road
Quote from: Mardroid on 25 May, 2015, 06:36:27 PM
One film where 3D really came into it's own for me was that film starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney a couple of years back. Gravity. (The name jsut came to me.) Not my favourite film (although it is decent) but boy did the 3D look good,.
There was also that one about the future cop and the psychic rookie about three years back. Can't remember the name of it though.
Might try Max in 3d; I only caught the 2d one
Quote from: hazy efc on 27 May, 2015, 12:14:32 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 26 May, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
The latest videogame trailer released today definitely seems geared to capitalize on the current Fury Road excitement (it's certainly got a pre-order out of me) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TsYIpYow7D0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TsYIpYow7D0)
Looks like while not being a straight tie-in to the movie it does riff off it a lot. I'm sure I saw a Thunderdome in one of the screenshots too. Pretty excited for it, the idea of a potentially decent Mad Max videogame is exciting enough, but doubly so right now when I'm hungry to get as much Max as I can get in my veins.
The game is looking very promising indeed, but im a bit confused is that supposed to be rictus erectus (That name :lol:) in the video. And hopefully there's bikes in the game as i loved the scene in fury road were max and furiosa are fighting off the bikers who attack the war rig tanker, the movie is very much like a video game.
That was
Nathan Jones I remember reading about how he got into the film business. A lot of interesting names made up for this film.
Did anybody recognise
Nicholas Holt? (I think there was some homage paid towards the towhead giant king from that other film he was in....)
I didn't until about most of the way through this film and
Megan Gale looks better without makeup, but I found the girl with her hair dyed red more interesting. (Despite the slim chance of that somebody in a place like that!) Would like to see them all pictured with their screen names and their real ones.
Still reckon there is a lot of
Heavy Metal - F.A.K.K. 2 (I spelt this wrong the first time!) and will be making more comparsions later after I have a quick reread of the novel.
BTW[ like your choice of avatar!
Witness Me!!!
Loved the film as saw it tonight with subtitled.
Great behind-the-scenes footage here:
http://uproxx.com/movies/2015/05/this-mad-max-b-roll-shows-just-how-dangerous-the-movie-was-to-make/
Those Pole-Cats... just amazing...
Just finished reading the first of four comics to be published by Vertigo detailing the back stories of the main characters. The first one tells the tale of Nux [spoiler](he's the bald groupie that makes Max his blood bank and joins the road trip)[/spoiler] and Immortan Joe. Miller wrote the story, and one of the concept artists did some of the art (Sexton).
It's pretty good. The Nux story is quite short, which is fine, as there's plenty of room to tell Joe's tale. I'd highly recommend it. Seems to be sold out pretty much everywhere, though, with it going for over a tenner on eBay if you can find one. Or you could wait for the TPB which will be released after the comics. I think the comics are being released one a month...
Taking the missus tomorrow. Be curious to see what she makes of it...
Cheers
Jim
My missus didn't like it at all. Makes going a second time problematic unless I nip out of work early. Hmmmm...
Quote from: von Boom on 28 May, 2015, 06:50:18 PM
My missus didn't like it at all. Makes going a second time problematic unless I nip out of work early. Hmmmm...
Get a new wife.
Cheers!
Jim
Quote from: von Boom on 28 May, 2015, 06:50:18 PM
My missus didn't like it at all. Makes going a second time problematic unless I nip out of work early. Hmmmm...
Think I know a good wife repair line....
Well finally got around to this, popping to see it after work tonight. Have to say I was a little worried, having heard nothing but good things could it possibly live up to expectations. Well of course it bloody could. Its everything people have said it is. Its frankly an astonishing bit of storytelling and utterly thrilling.
As people have alliuded to a little nervous as to how Mad Max 2 will compare now and I've always adored that film, but can it possibly hold up... well if nothing else a damned good excuse to see it again to find out.
Wife enjoyed it, which is a relief because it means I don't have to replace her.
Still fucking awesome. I hadn't registered how little people speak on the first viewing, but as soon as more than two lines were exchanged this time, I became acutely aware that no one had really said anything for ten minutes.
Still involuntarily exhaled and realised I'd been gripping the arm of my seat at the end of the sandstorm.
This film is a fucking symphony.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
Still involuntarily exhaled and realised I'd been gripping the arm of my seat at the end of the sandstorm.
That freakishly huge sandstorm reminded of the hyperspace sequence used in
Elite Dangerous and when small part of the convoy got caught up in and was blown away while been ripped to scrap metal and the flesh and bone within.
I thought about what might happen if space-ships from that game didn't Mass-Lock when trying to jump in close proximity to each other or a station.
I think of this as a safety measure to stop ships been torn in half if that was possible and not sure anybody else who play or is otherwise connected with that game does.
Anyway, that's where my mind wandered when I saw something like that in film and you really need to excuse my comparison of this part of a road movie to pseudo-real space/time physics found in a computer game.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
I hadn't registered how little people speak on the first viewing, but as soon as more than two lines were exchanged this time, I became acutely aware that no one had really said anything for ten minutes.
And yet we still learn so much about the people and their world -at first, I was one of those "it's just the chase scene out of MM2" idiots, but I've come to realise just how much compressed storytelling there was - they've managed to subliminally cram in more plot than you could shake a mutated dingo at.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 30 May, 2015, 12:42:44 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
I hadn't registered how little people speak on the first viewing, but as soon as more than two lines were exchanged this time, I became acutely aware that no one had really said anything for ten minutes.
And yet we still learn so much about the people and their world -at first, I was one of those "it's just the chase scene out of MM2" idiots, but I've come to realise just how much compressed storytelling there was - they've managed to subliminally cram in more plot than you could shake a mutated dingo at.
I saw someone I admire today on Twitter unfavourably compare Fury Road to the Peter Griffin vs Chicken Suit running gag in Family Guy - ie that it is just all action and has no plot. Can't please 'em all I suppose!
Quote from: radiator on 30 May, 2015, 01:15:53 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 30 May, 2015, 12:42:44 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
I hadn't registered how little people speak on the first viewing, but as soon as more than two lines were exchanged this time, I became acutely aware that no one had really said anything for ten minutes.
And yet we still learn so much about the people and their world -at first, I was one of those "it's just the chase scene out of MM2" idiots, but I've come to realise just how much compressed storytelling there was - they've managed to subliminally cram in more plot than you could shake a mutated dingo at.
I saw someone I admire today on Twitter unfavourably compare Fury Road to the Peter Griffin vs Chicken Suit running gag in Family Guy - ie that it is just all action and has no plot. Can't please 'em all I suppose!
Ehhhh... I always find it interesting (and depressing) how some people don't understand the difference between plot and story... and how both do NOT rely on the characters SPEAKING to each other.
But to each their own..!
Quote from: Dandontdare on 30 May, 2015, 12:42:44 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
I hadn't registered how little people speak on the first viewing, but as soon as more than two lines were exchanged this time, I became acutely aware that no one had really said anything for ten minutes.
And yet we still learn so much about the people and their world -at first, I was one of those "it's just the chase scene out of MM2" idiots, but I've come to realise just how much compressed storytelling there was - they've managed to subliminally cram in more plot than you could shake a mutated dingo at.
Yeah that was what impressed me most. There was almost a Wagnerian (it is a term, I looked it up) use of dialogue which pushed plot and character forward a wonderful amount. It did leave the film with a minor problem (very, very minor) it made Max's narrators voice over feel a bit silly and laboured, but ya know that was so easy to get over.
A brilliantly realised and full story.
Quote from: radiator on 30 May, 2015, 01:15:53 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 30 May, 2015, 12:42:44 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 11:45:39 PM
I hadn't registered how little people speak on the first viewing, but as soon as more than two lines were exchanged this time, I became acutely aware that no one had really said anything for ten minutes.
And yet we still learn so much about the people and their world -at first, I was one of those "it's just the chase scene out of MM2" idiots, but I've come to realise just how much compressed storytelling there was - they've managed to subliminally cram in more plot than you could shake a mutated dingo at.
I saw someone I admire today on Twitter unfavourably compare Fury Road to the Peter Griffin vs Chicken Suit running gag in Family Guy - ie that it is just all action and has no plot. Can't please 'em all I suppose!
To me, the most disappointing thing about a comparison like that is that the viewer missed the nuances (and the point!) of the storytelling. Action blockbusters traditionally spoonfeed you the exposition like you're a fucking five year old and yet when a movie like this comes along, asking you to pay attention and dig a little, people are disappointed they weren't spoonfed. I would make the argument the movie needs to be seen at least twice simply because the first viewing is so visually overloaded. I saw it a sixth time yesterday (yes, it sounds obsessive at this point, but there is so much to see in the movie. So much beauty and attention to detail in the background that the movie calls no attention to but deserves to be seen) and my enthusiasm for it hasn't waned one bit.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 30 May, 2015, 06:50:02 AM
It did leave the film with a minor problem (very, very minor) it made Max's narrators voice over feel a bit silly and laboured, but ya know that was so easy to get over.
The voice-over and the mental flashes are at odds with the 'silence' in the rest of the film and feel forced in a way that makes the intro feel rushed. For the type of film it is the audience don't need to be told what a character is thinking and Tom Hardy's monologue sounds off. It's one aspect The Road Warrior did better - making the narrator a distant character.
I don't know whether the intro voice-over was a studio note for the inclusion of backstory or always the plan but it only appears once and never used again, not even at the end. If they really needed to get the information across that he was a pre-apocalyptic cop, the Warboys finding an old rusted badge in his car or hidden in his clothing would've played better, or just do a proper flashback scene while he's blacked-out.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2015, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 30 May, 2015, 06:50:02 AM
It did leave the film with a minor problem (very, very minor) it made Max's narrators voice over feel a bit silly and laboured, but ya know that was so easy to get over.
The voice-over and the mental flashes are at odds with the 'silence' in the rest of the film and feel forced in a way that makes the intro feel rushed. For the type of film it is the audience don't need to be told what a character is thinking and Tom Hardy's monologue sounds off. It's one aspect The Road Warrior did better - making the narrator a distant character.
Yeah exactly. The weird thing was it felt off even when I saw it at the beginning, without the context the rest of the film gave it of being completely out of place. Still churlish to spend too much time going on about a minor detail when so much of it was so very very right.
Christ I've been reflecting on the movie as the day has progressed and the great thing is its not lessen. So the immediate afterglow isn't the only reason I think it might be my favourite ever action movie... yeah better than... well that other film that gets discussed round here. Time will tell but honestly the more I think about it the more I really think it might be.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2015, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 30 May, 2015, 06:50:02 AM
It did leave the film with a minor problem (very, very minor) it made Max's narrators voice over feel a bit silly and laboured, but ya know that was so easy to get over.
The voice-over and the mental flashes are at odds with the 'silence' in the rest of the film and feel forced in a way that makes the intro feel rushed. For the type of film it is the audience don't need to be told what a character is thinking and Tom Hardy's monologue sounds off. It's one aspect The Road Warrior did better - making the narrator a distant character.
I don't know whether the intro voice-over was a studio note for the inclusion of backstory or always the plan but it only appears once and never used again, not even at the end. If they really needed to get the information across that he was a pre-apocalyptic cop, the Warboys finding an old rusted badge in his car or hidden in his clothing would've played better, or just do a proper flashback scene while he's blacked-out.
The narration was there in the rough cut in far worse form. At the beginning and end. It was, to be honest, poorly written tripe. Ghastly. Thankfully they trimmed it down. My thoughts were initially that one of the Five Wives, perhaps even Furiosa, should have handled the narration to emphasize Max's standing as mythic but I suppose they know as little about him by the end, it probably wouldn't work.
Would they really have known any less about him than Wild Child or the Lost Girl? Honestly that was my only gripe, Max shouldn't be a narrater IMHO.
A friend who's a bit snooty about action films (always dismisses them as mindless garbage) said he thought it was very meh, just a big action scene with no substance. Trying to explain why I liked it so much was a real struggle! He just kept going back to how dumb it was and when I suggested the writing and structure of the whole thing is hugely impressive he almost laughed me out the room. To him there is no story, because all he saw was the action. No substance, no craft, just a big empty noise.
At one point he dismissed it by saying you'd never catch a serious film critic praising it or that it'd never get a good reaction somewhere like Cannes, whatever that has to do with anything. The fact that critics love it and it went down a storm at Cannes (applause throughout was the report I heard!) didn't seem to phase him.
His loss I guess, but there will probably be plenty of people who can't see past their 'this is action so automatically trash' stigma to appreciate the craft underneath.
Definitely his loss. Also, he's talking shit.
Here's a list of five reviewers he can resort to. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mad_max_fury_road/reviews/?sort=rotten (98% fresh on RT)
There's alot of buzz over why it didn't compete in Cannes.
He can think what he wants about the film. But he shouldn't laugh at someone with another opinion on it. Especially not when the joke is on him.
Saw it again tonight. Just cemented my opinion - actually enjoyed it even MORE this time round, and noticed so many more cool little details I missed on first watch. It also seemed somehow more intense and much louder too, despite it being the exact same cinema and screen.
It would be a remarkable film based purely on the action scenes even if the script was bobbins - the fact that the script and story are so tight and creative elevates it to a whole other level.
This time I saw it with my girlfriend and another friend. They're not big action movie fans and are a little squeamish. As I suspected, they were both a little freaked out by all the grotesque, weird shit, but both were totally buzzing. They loved it!
A couple of great articles about what Fury Road does, and how it does it:
Tight, disciplined camera work. (http://vashivisuals.com/the-editing-of-mad-max-fury-road/) All the while ignoring a whole book full of screenwriting 'rules' (http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2015/05/26/how-mad-max-fury-road-turns-your-writing-advice-into-roadkill/) — "On paper, that shouldn't work. On screen, it roars like an engine and drags you behind it like you're chained to the goddamn bumper."
Cheers
Jim
Both interesting articles, however the second one posed a problem for me right off the bat:
(I'll spoiler tag it since maybe there are spoilers in it)
[spoiler]"Beginning with action is hard. Because a lot of the time, you need context. You jump right into some actionstravaganza and you feel lost — unmoored, drifting, caught up in OMG THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCITING BUT MOSTLY IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE. It's all whizz-bang-boom, but ultimately? Hollow as a used grenade. Shallow as a puddle of sun-baked urine."[/spoiler]
I'm not sure why the writer of the article says that we don't have context for this action - when we have three movies' worth of context. Sure, we don't know exactly why the action starts the way it does for this particular film - we obviously know by now that in Max's world, there are crazy marauders and shit happens.
Otherwise, nice writeup with some interesting ideas on the script (however, I still hold MM2 is the more genius of the two films, with FR building off of that template).
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
when we have three movies' worth of context.
That's a rather dangerous assumption for a movie-maker to make. I've only seen the first movie once, many years ago; my wife's never seen any of 'em. We both enjoyed the new film with little-to-no context.
Cheers
Jim
Jim- I'm of a mind that the 'context' is why we have the info-dump voice-over at the beginning.
I saw the film last Weds and have barely stopped thinking of seeing it again since then. An astounding piece of storytelling and a soundtrack that just stomps HARD!
tom Hardy was magnificent and it was a treat to hear the Bane voice again :)
I liked it from beginning to end.
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 01 June, 2015, 04:03:16 PM
Jim- I'm of a mind that the 'context' is why we have the info-dump voice-over at the beginning.
Yep. I agree, and I disagree with comments upthread about it seeming unnecessary. This film is picking from a series last added to thirty years ago — some exposition is needed, so get it done right at the start and then strap in for the ride.
QuoteI saw the film last Weds and have barely stopped thinking of seeing it again since then.
I knew I was going to see it at least once more as soon as I left the cinema. Work permitting, I may try to sneak a third viewing in...!
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
I'm not sure why the writer of the article says that we don't have context for this action - when we have three movies' worth of context. Sure, we don't know exactly why the action starts the way it does for this particular film - we obviously know by now that in Max's world, there are crazy marauders and shit happens.
It's a 40 year-old franchise with a 30 year gap between entries so it needs to centre a successive generation of older teens, most of whom will never have seen the originals or know Max is, into the environment of the story. I don't think they needed to do it in the manner they did it but it helps when certain things are telegraphed early rather than later.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 June, 2015, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
when we have three movies' worth of context.
That's a rather dangerous assumption for a movie-maker to make. I've only seen the first movie once, many years ago; my wife's never seen any of 'em. We both enjoyed the new film with little-to-no context.
Cheers
Jim
I'm not saying the film can't be enjoyed without context - and I'd argue anyway that one look at the types of characters chasing Max is all the context a viewer needs. (I do agree with Bolt about the opening narrative dump being a bunch of context)
But watching a fourth film in a series is the same as reading the fourth book in a series or starting at the fourth season of a television show - you're not going to understand what's happening right away, but there is context established by what has been filmed/written before.
Edit: this works in response to Joe Soap's post as well.
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 04:22:14 PM
But watching a fourth film in a series is the same as reading the fourth book in a series or starting at the fourth season of a television show - you're not going to understand what's happening right away, but there is context established by what has been filmed/written before.
But it's not a TV series/film where we wait a week for the next episode or a few months or years between installments and is currently in the ether. If Mad Max had the cultural saturation of Star Wars or Spider-Man/Batman you would get away with it but Mad Max is a franchise from an older generation now in middle-age; the studio needs to grab this generation of young adults who are not as familiar or only know the name Mad Max. If a film fails to grab early it can tank at the box-office and fail to reach the largest audience.
I'm not arguing with you and Jim - I'm not arguing at all - about how a film should be approached or what a screenwriter should or shouldn't do with a series with a 30-year gap that teens may or may not have seen.
I'm simply stating that context is there in the form of three previous films that can be sought out by potential viewers of this new film.
3D or not 3D? That is the my question to all of you.
Quote"Beginning with action is hard. Because a lot of the time, you need context. You jump right into some actionstravaganza and you feel lost — unmoored, drifting, caught up in OMG THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCITING BUT MOSTLY IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE. It's all whizz-bang-boom, but ultimately? Hollow as a used grenade. Shallow as a puddle of sun-baked urine."
Erm... just no. I don't agree with any of this at all. I would almost say the opposite - that great action films establish characters by their actions and embrace the concept of 'show, don't tell'.
Loads of great action movies start with action to get the audience's attention, then establish the context later, and this is exactly what Fury Road does, albeit in a slightly more compressed form. It's all in the
execution.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 01 June, 2015, 05:01:05 PM
3D or not 3D? That is the my question to all of you.
2D all the way. I didn't even consider seeing it in 3D. You want to see these incredible action scenes in all their crisp, colourful glory.
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:10:08 PM
2D all the way. I didn't even consider seeing it in 3D. You want to see these incredible action scenes in all their crisp, colourful glory.
The 3D is excellent.
Cheers
Jim
Their isn't really any need to see it in 3D. I found it muted the colours a bit and didn't really add anything that wasn't already superb in 2D.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 01 June, 2015, 05:14:11 PM
Their isn't really any need to see it in 3D.
There were no 2D IMAX showings at my Cineworld and I wanted to see it on the biggest screen I could find...
Cheers
Jim
Not criticizing anyone who actually enjoyed the 3D, just my two pence it wasn't really all that great though their where moments I felt (if correctly applied), real depth could have been added to the action scenes.
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:08:23 PMgreat action films establish characters by their actions and embrace the concept of 'show, don't tell'. Loads of great action movies start with action to get the audience's attention, then establish the context later, and this is exactly what Fury Road does[/i].
Except it doesn't; not initially. Fury Road has a lengthy intro starting with the montage of archive audio clips about the decline of civillisation and then Max's VO and flashbacks. The rest of the film follows a show don't tell philosophy, for the most part.
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE
Great action films establish characters by their actions and embrace the concept of 'show, don't tell'. Loads of great action movies start with action to get the audience's attention, then establish the context later
(http://i.imgur.com/Cnis5D3.jpg?3)
Quote from: Butch on 01 June, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE
Great action films establish characters by their actions and embrace the concept of 'show, don't tell'. Loads of great action movies start with action to get the audience's attention, then establish the context later
Just to be clear, this - "IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE" - is not my statement, it's a quote from the article Jim posted about Fury Road.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 June, 2015, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:08:23 PMgreat action films establish characters by their actions and embrace the concept of 'show, don't tell'. Loads of great action movies start with action to get the audience's attention, then establish the context later, and this is exactly what Fury Road does[/i].
Except it doesn't; not initially. Fury Road has a lengthy intro starting with the montage of archive audio clips about the decline of civillisation and then Max's VO and flashbacks. The rest of the film follows a show don't tell philosophy, for the most part.
I wouldn't call it 'Lengthy'. It's a couple of lines of setup, which is all it needs.
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 07:45:48 PM
Quote from: Butch on 01 June, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 01 June, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE
Great action films establish characters by their actions and embrace the concept of 'show, don't tell'. Loads of great action movies start with action to get the audience's attention, then establish the context later
Just to be clear, this - "IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE" - is not my statement, it's a quote from the article Jim posted about Fury Road.
I imagine the author is referringto things like the start of Revenge of the Sith. It just did not engage me in the slightest.
QuoteJust to be clear, this - "IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE" - is not my statement, it's a quote from the article Jim posted about Fury Road.
Yep - totally get that Locust, my issue is with that article in the link, which I just don't agree with.
Yeah, Fury Road has a lot of action, but there's also quite a bit of downtime in between the three main set-pieces where we get to know the characters and get invested in their struggle.
I really don't think it functions all that differently to any other great example of the chase/action movie genre, nor do I think it 'breaks' any screenwriting rules. I'd argue that it actually
reinforces age old screenwriting rules like the - 'show, don't tell', 'brevity is the soul of wit', keeping a solid three-act structure - all that good stuff.
I keep thinking I've got something to add then I get to one of Radiator's next post and oh he covered it better than I would. Fine.
Oh there's another point I could make spinning from that... oh Radiator's next post gets that one covered. Fine
So I guess i could still say... oh... fine.
Could a Mod do me a favour and just change his last 3 4 posts (he got another in as I was whittering) to Radiator and Colin_YNWA, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Oh hold on I'll try this, isn't the Max at the beginning lost and out his depth really the point of that opening? Was for me. He's lost his way in the beginning and then is snatched from his 'life' and thrown back into adventure with no control, choice or understanding to start with. That develops (his understanding) with the wonderful storytelling that unfolds. For me you could remove that narration and the film still works.
Its a bit like the need to get superheroes origins cranked in at the beginning of films, which given that many of them (those filmed that I've seen) aren't the best that can make the first hour of the films a bit awkward. Fury Road avoids that, throws you in leaves you gasping for breathe and that, while still giving you a lovely pummelling drags you up to speed.
Works for me.
With screening #7, I found myself wondering [spoiler]if the War Rig's kill switch hadn't kicked in, would Max have really left Furiosa and the Wives behind to IJ and his cronies...? I like to think he'd have felt (more) guilty, stopped 100 yards away to let them in a la Wolverine with Rogue in the first X-Men movie.[/spoiler] But then I thought about what a balls-out shit fucking day Max was having and really wasn't sure. [spoiler]On the other hand, if Nux could catch up,[/spoiler] so could the ladies and Furiosa would have just slit his throat and carried on. What a movie THAT would have made...
I think he would have left them, yeah.
Max is essentially a wild animal at that point.
I think the turning point is when he finally gets that wretched mask off - I think that's the point where he starts to trust and care about others again.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 01 June, 2015, 05:01:05 PM
3D or not 3D? That is the my question to all of you.
IMAX 3D.
I'm usually a 2D zealot, haven't seen a 3D film for at least 4yrs, but this felt like it needed something extra at least on first viewing.
My socks were, and still are, completely knocked off.
Do it.
Barefoot Dunk!
Quote from: blackmocco on 01 June, 2015, 08:49:37 PMBut then I thought about what a balls-out shit fucking day Max was having and really wasn't sure. [spoiler]On the other hand, if Nux could catch up,[/spoiler] so could the ladies and Furiosa would have just slit his throat and carried on.
I
love that Max and Furiosa/Joe's respective parties have absolutely zero interest in each other's stories for at least the first third of the film. It really underlines the importance of basic, everyday survival in this world.
This is pretty good:
(Warning: Fury Road AND Game of Thrones spoilers in here)
http://www.tor.com/2015/05/20/mad-max-fury-road-action-genre-subversion/
Twas good, would guess 2D was the better choice after seeing it in 3D, like most 3D in movies it seemed entirely absent after the first few scenes so would have preferred the brighter colours/not wearing glasses. What is with Tom Hardy's accent? Otherwise little in the way of even the most constructive criticism.
Caught this last night, and I really liked it.
Was never that huge a fan of the original three films - and I don't think they've dated well, so I'm kinda happy to view this as a total fresh start.
And a more impressive looking big budget film, I doubt you'll find. Makes the usual crap that we are served up look very, very tired indeed.
The main cast is uniformly great in this. Charlize Theron is brilliant, but Tom Hardy, is slightly less so, but still a good turn from him.
I did think, on a couple of occasions, that it was slightly overlong, but thinking back, nothing springs to time, that could have been cut out, or was at odds.
The voice-over at the beginning didnt bug me, nor the flashback scenes, but I wouldn't mourn the loss of either, tbh.
And Peter Stringfellow makes a great villain, ;)
So, a good 4 out of 5 from me.
Just back from my second time and it remains an absolute cracker. Knowing what to expect took some of the breakneck momentum out of it and allowed the quieter moments time to breathe. It did also give me more time to ponder the slight weaknesses but those are massively overshadowed by everything it gets right.
The chorus of approval above covers most of my own thoughts. Sublime design and stunts. Loved being thrown in to the weirdness of the World without explanation. Theron is fantastic, Hardy great except when he speaks. Max needs to talk exactly as much as Clint in the dollars films. Found the flashbacks far less annoying the second time around but did ultimately think 10 or 15 minutes could've been stripped out of it.
This was the first time my friend has been out unattended since the birth of her second child. Only found out on the way home she'd never seen any of the others but she loved it too. At least, she reckoned it was overwhelming and mental, but in a good way.
A few random observations.
- The "Warboys! War boys!" chant as they're hitching up the fuel pod was definitely a sly wink at Duran Duran appropriating Road Warrior chic for the Wild Boys video, wasn't it?
- I don't think the film needs any context whatsoever to enjoy. Even the intro it did have is superfluous and knowledge of the other films is irrelevant. If there's a connection at all, they're parallels, not a serial. We could've been dropped into the opening scene with the lizard without losing anything at all.
- That "IT FEELS LIKE ACTION FIGURES BEING FIRED OUT OF A CANNON AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE I DO NOT YET HAVE A REASON TO CARE" seems a pretty weird criticism. Maybe from someone who doesn't watch many action films. Dropping you into an action scene then maybe explaining stuff later has worked for everything from Bond to The Odyssey.
- Loved the two tone soundtrack. Booming orchestral stuff for the big set pieces interspersed with the diegetic menace of the truckload of drums and guitars.
- Irrespective of what a bunch of middle-aged goons reckon, it really does seem like the sort of film which some 12 year old kid is going to watch again and again and again, obsessively, for years to come. Which is a good thing.
Quote from: radiator on 01 June, 2015, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 01 June, 2015, 05:01:05 PM
3D or not 3D? That is the my question to all of you.
2D all the way. I didn't even consider seeing it in 3D. You want to see these incredible action scenes in all their crisp, colourful glory.
My first viewing was in 3D, the second in 2. I went in tonight assuming I was going to see something much richer visually but I couldn't say I noticed any real difference in the colours. Maybe just good luck. On the other hand, not having two sets of subtitles to contend with is a definite plus.
Went to watch it anthird time last night before it disapears. Hope it fairs well on the small screen....
But prity much everything I've wanted to say has been covered now, but Cosh brings up a good point about the score. Did anyone notice that when The Doof Warrior was fighting Max, when ever he let go of the guitar the OST just stopped. Then a frantic scrabble to get the guitar back and it kicks in again. Didn't notice that ghe first time but I bloody love it. Also when you could see the convoy in the dustance but all you could hear was this high pitched growling of the band van. Bloody madness and pure McCarthy.
Watched this for a second time this weekend and man, it was even better.
Things I noticed: It has a standard three act structure. It's just that the first act is [spoiler]the pre credits sequence[/spoiler] and the third act is [spoiler]the final three minutes[/spoiler]...
Also, a lovely touch. The [spoiler]old lady with the bag full of seeds who boasted of every shot being a one shot kill? Her dying act is to kill a bad guy by shoving a bullet into his eye. [/spoiler]
It's why the movie needs a couple of viewings: So much to digest. [spoiler]I found her death quite touching. A bit of a feat considering they introduce us to those characters so quickly but they still manage to create a satisfying bond between her and The Dag in no time at all.[/spoiler] Every time I've seen it, the movie gets tighter and better.
I think one of Brendan's first contacts with George Miller involved him sending George a copy of the Mad Max homage episode from ReBoot - Bad Bob; after that he was flown out to Sydney and now we have Fury Road.
I picked up one of Brendan's Bad Bob designs a few years ago and it's a thing of beauty...
(http://i.imgur.com/NLYBR.jpg)
Quote from: ming on 10 June, 2015, 12:45:15 PM
I think one of Brendan's first contacts with George Miller involved him sending George a copy of the Mad Max homage episode from ReBoot - Bad Bob; after that he was flown out to Sydney and now we have Fury Road.
I picked up one of Brendan's Bad Bob designs a few years ago and it's a thing of beauty...
(http://i.imgur.com/NLYBR.jpg)
I'm sure that one would have been no problem to build whatsoever...
Quote from: blackmocco on 10 June, 2015, 02:43:37 PMI'm sure that one would have been no problem to build whatsoever...
Hah! Just imagine... The Doof Wagon was fully functional, after all. Probably plenty of Jumbo Jet cockpits sitting around in junkyards. Maybe next time? Pleeeaaaase?
I keep coming back to my initial tweeted reaction: that you can't help but be stunned by the sheer, mad ambition of the movie. Another great article on that subject here: http://squaremans.com/fury-road/
Cheers
Jim
Some shockingly exciting concept art and storyboards from Peter Pound here. Lot of this isn't in the Art Of... book.
http://www.peterpound.com.au/mad-max-fury-road/concept-design/
Does anyone what happened to the organic mechanic and Miss Giddy ? last time I remember seeing them was in the gigahorse.
I guess there's shot footage of Organic killing Miss Giddy at some point but it didn't make the final cut. The actor playing Organic says he shot a LOT of stuff that didn't make it in.
Quote from: blackmocco on 20 June, 2015, 06:54:24 PM
I guess there's shot footage of Organic killing Miss Giddy at some point but it didn't make the final cut. The actor playing Organic says he shot a LOT of stuff that didn't make it in.
organic was one of my fave smaller characters. It'll be interesting to see what's included on the home release
Always heard George Miller was originally going to give Furiosa her own animated movie before Fury Road became a reality. Here's some of the concept art. Pretty cool.
http://www.themarysue.com/mad-max-fury-road-anime/
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.45.37%20PM_zpsuztusfwc.png) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.45.37%20PM_zpsuztusfwc.png.html)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.46.54%20PM_zpsd39vumhc.png) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.46.54%20PM_zpsd39vumhc.png.html)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.46.12%20PM_zpsb3g7vqrx.png) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.46.12%20PM_zpsb3g7vqrx.png.html)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.47.20%20PM_zpsuvptvxp1.png) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.47.20%20PM_zpsuvptvxp1.png.html)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee49/blackmocco/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.45.54%20PM_zpshu6nla5c.png) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/blackmocco/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-23%20at%2012.45.54%20PM_zpshu6nla5c.png.html)
HOLY FUCK YES!
:lol:
(http://i.imgur.com/1mmPiV0.jpg)
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Warboys+Rd,+Kingston+upon+Thames,+Greater+London+KT2+7LS/@51.4245574,-0.2765774,17z/data=!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x48760956b0df305d:0x2e2dd09de7b91b6b!2sWarboys+Rd,+Kingston+upon+Thames,+Greater+London+KT2+7LS!3b1!3m1!1s0x48760956b0df305d:0x2e2dd09de7b91b6b
Yeah I can't work out how to do the short url for this BUT it's a place in Kingston upon Thames that made me laugh as I cycled past.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 30 June, 2015, 05:23:09 PMYeah I can't work out how to do the short url for this BUT it's a place in Kingston upon Thames that made me laugh as I cycled past.
You should have been shouting
'Witness me!' as you cycled along...
:lol:
I was thinking about this the other day. The line:
"I LIVE! I DIE! I LIVE AGAIN!"
I'm pretty sure that's a translation of part of the New Zealand All Black's Haka.
Part 3 of the mini series is out today and it's cleverly moving the story of Max along before the film.
Gave up after the last issue. Don't like the art much and they seem intent on undoing everything that's great about the movie. Nonetheless, I applaud your courage braving through it. Haha!
It is from Mr Miller and this issue is a different artist ;)
Quote from: blackmocco on 08 July, 2015, 03:16:33 PM
Gave up after the last issue. Don't like the art much and they seem intent on undoing everything that's great about the movie. Nonetheless, I applaud your courage braving through it. Haha!
The first issue was great, the second was pretty ghastly TBH.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 08 July, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
It is from Mr Miller and this issue is a different artist ;)
Gave in and bought it. Actually, it's not too bad. I don't particularly care for it as a prequel to FR itself, but it was alright. Art's decent too. My bad.
Phew! I was worried then ;)
enjoyed them all so far
Yeah issue 3 was far better than 2. It still feels like backstory that's largely unnecessary given one of the film's biggest strengths is NOT having a load of background exposition, but it was a fun read all the same.
Interesting that there's a Thunderdome at Gastown, the trailers for the new videogame suggest you head to Gastown and take part in something similar, makes me wonder if it'll have more ties to Fury Road.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 09 July, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Yeah issue 3 was far better than 2. It still feels like backstory that's largely unnecessary given one of the film's biggest strengths is NOT having a load of background exposition, but it was a fun read all the same.
My thoughts exactly. I love idea of Mad Max world in comic books but I rather read some random adventures from Wasteland than dig further into movie backstory.
Mad Mad Mad Mash-Up (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/its_a_mad_mad_mad_max_fury_road_mash-up)
Fury Road - deleted scenes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB0D-Egq46M)
There seems to be a slow trickle of stories of late suggesting that Miller shot a great, unfocussed mess of footage and that the movie was essentially created in the edit.
And yet, in 1999, here's the entire movie laid out in one splendid page of graphics (and I'll eat (one of) my hats if that's not Brendan McCarthy drawing):
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/MMFR_Outline_zps3mjtkdbx.jpg)
Cheers
Jim
"Fury Storm" love it!
That why George Miller is awesome masterpiece! Wish he did Dredd Cursed Earth!
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2015, 08:49:26 AM
And yet, in 1999, here's the entire movie laid out in one splendid page of graphics (and I'll eat (one of) my hats if that's not Brendan McCarthy drawing):
Yup. Brendan and George worked with electronic whiteboards and this is the final printout from the day the story was completed.
While I'm posting, Brendan also just flagged up some deleted Fury Road scenes that have just surfaced (including what happened to Miss Giddy). I've not watched these yet, but here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB0D-Egq46M
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2015, 08:49:26 AM
There seems to be a slow trickle of stories of late suggesting that Miller shot a great, unfocussed mess of footage and that the movie was essentially created in the edit.
And yet, in 1999, here's the entire movie laid out in one splendid page of graphics (and I'll eat (one of) my hats if that's not Brendan McCarthy drawing):
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/MMFR_Outline_zps3mjtkdbx.jpg)
Cheers
Jim
Isn't every movie "created" in the edit though? All that fine-tuning and nit-picking comes good. The end result speaks for itself. Interesting to see people trying to knock the movie online now. We live in fickle times.
Quote from: ming on 18 August, 2015, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2015, 08:49:26 AM
And yet, in 1999, here's the entire movie laid out in one splendid page of graphics (and I'll eat (one of) my hats if that's not Brendan McCarthy drawing):
Yup. Brendan and George worked with electronic whiteboards and this is the final printout from the day the story was completed.
While I'm posting, Brendan also just flagged up some deleted Fury Road scenes that have just surfaced (including what happened to Miss Giddy). I've not watched these yet, but here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB0D-Egq46M
It's the last one that interests me the most. What a creepy ending for Miss Giddy and (I'm assuming) what's left of Splendid...
Quote from: blackmocco on 18 August, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
Isn't every movie "created" in the edit though? All that fine-tuning and nit-picking comes good. The end result speaks for itself. Interesting to see people trying to knock the movie online now. We live in fickle times.
Well,
obviously. I'm not attempting to diminish the importance of the editing process, rather to point out that the suggestion that Miller didn't know
exactly what movie he was making going in is somewhat given the lie by that Miller/McCarthy whiteboard from over a decade before.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2015, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 18 August, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
Isn't every movie "created" in the edit though? All that fine-tuning and nit-picking comes good. The end result speaks for itself. Interesting to see people trying to knock the movie online now. We live in fickle times.
Well, obviously. I'm not attempting to diminish the importance of the editing process, rather to point out that the suggestion that Miller didn't know exactly what movie he was making going in is somewhat given the lie by that Miller/McCarthy whiteboard from over a decade before.
Cheers
Jim
I wasn't having a pop at your post, Jim. Was just airing a thought, is all.
I've no doubt Miller knew what movie he wanted to make all along. The fact he had to be convinced by his DP to use more than one camera per shot says he knew exactly what he wanted, visually at least. People just seem intent on ripping this down now out of spite. Fuck them.
Quote from: blackmocco on 18 August, 2015, 04:25:30 PM
The fact he had to be convinced by his DP to use more than one camera per shot says he knew exactly what he wanted, visually at least.
Hah. I hadn't heard that thing about the multiple cameras! I'll be honest, that video about the film's use of centre framing (https://vimeo.com/129314425) was revelatory in explaining why FR manages to maintain the pace and speed of cutting without ever becoming head-ache inducing.
QuotePeople just seem intent on ripping this down now out of spite. Fuck them.
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Cheers
Jim
Yeah, this interview (and there's plenty more out there) with John Seale touches upon the one camera thing. I guess because FR had been in pre-production for so long, Miller knew every scene pretty intimately before he even shot a lick of movie.
http://www.digitalmedia-world.com/Features/cinematographer-john-seale-rolls-down-fury-road
"Because he knew how each shot was going to fit into the film and had heavily storyboarded the production, we knew what each shot would be and that fast, rollercoaster style didn't really affect us," said John. "At first, he wanted to shoot with only one camera, but we coaxed him into using more. After all, I had been using multiple cameras for years, and it seemed a bit alien to me to only consider one. This also applied to the Action unit where 2nd unit DP David Burr was shooting. The stunt coordinator Guy Norris initially told David that only one camera would be used on all of the stunts. Personally, I believe that if you have coverage in the edit, it can be discarded, but it's there to be used if you need it."
A fucking 70 year old madman out in the middle of an African desert. How can you not love it? My favorite review of FR talked about how Warners receiving dailies must have been akin to receiving body parts from a kidnap victim. "Hi! We've $150 million of your money and this is what we're doing with it!"
Weird seeing folks coming out to knock the film... During the storyboarding process, I can unequivocally say that George Miller knew pretty much what he wanted BEFORE we drew the boards. Before we started every morning, he used to sit for about 20 minutes with his eyes closed, running through the movie in his head. And the film is very close to the storyboards - if anything, it's tighter and more efficiently done.
I suspect where the stories originate from is Miller's tendency to explore the ideas he's had, to experiment and try new things during the filmmaking process. Sometimes it pays off but most of the time his first instincts are pretty good, and the original idea stands. But at least he has the chance to make sure it's solid (and another reason why his films take so long to do..!)
Quote from: blackmocco on 18 August, 2015, 04:45:56 PMMy favorite review of FR talked about how Warners receiving dailies must have been akin to receiving body parts from a kidnap victim. "Hi! We've $150 million of your money and this is what we're doing with it!"
Heh, yeah - I remember that review (from Time Out); captured the essence of the film perfectly:
"The fourth instalment of George Miller's punky post-apocalyptic 'Mad Max' saga feels like a tornado tearing through a tea party. In an age of weightless movie spectacles, here's a movie that feels like it was made by kidnapping $150 million of studio money, fleeing with it to the Namibian desert, and sending footage back to Hollywood like the amputated body parts of a ransomed hostage."
http://www.timeout.com/london/film/mad-max-fury-road
Quote from: ming on 19 August, 2015, 09:20:25 AM
Heh, yeah - I remember that review (from Time Out); captured the essence of the film perfectly
Yep. More or less perfect.
Fury Road still sits very comfortably in my
'Film of the Year' spot, with the #2 position being a surprise toss-up between Ant-Man and John Wick.
Cheers
Jim
I agree with that.
The nightclub scene in John Wick was just gobsmacking on the big screen.
Mad Max was a brilliant surprise. I haven't seen John Wick - slipped under my radar completely! AntMan was a stroke of comedy genius.
I mentioned this on Facebook recently: I'm still chewing over the rich old stew of metaphor and subtext that Fury Road served up in the guise of a thunderous action movie and it dawned on me: it's the Wizard of Oz.
I know that almost any 'journey' movie can be discussed in terms of Oz (which, in itself, is a sly humanist subversion of Pilgrim's Progress) but Fury Road starts with a storm (there are even tornadoes); the travellers are heading for the "green place" (an Emerald City?) and on the way discover aspects of themselves they believed absent or lost: Furiosa's hope, Nux's self-worth and Max's humanity. Finally, they discover that the green place can't give them what they want, and that there really is no place like home.
Cheers!
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 September, 2015, 12:59:06 PM
I mentioned this on Facebook recently: I'm still chewing over the rich old stew of metaphor and subtext that Fury Road served up in the guise of a thunderous action movie and it dawned on me: it's the Wizard of Oz.
I know that almost any 'journey' movie can be discussed in terms of Oz (which, in itself, is a sly humanist subversion of Pilgrim's Progress) but Fury Road starts with a storm (there are even tornadoes); the travellers are heading for the "green place" (an Emerald City?) and on the way discover aspects of themselves they believed absent or lost: Furiosa's hope, Nux's self-worth and Max's humanity. Finally, they discover that the green place can't give them what they want, and that there really is no place like home.
Cheers!
Jim
That's bloody brilliant!
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 September, 2015, 12:59:06 PM
I know that almost any 'journey' movie can be discussed in terms of Oz (which, in itself, is a sly humanist subversion of Pilgrim's Progress) but Fury Road starts with a storm (there are even tornadoes); the travellers are heading for the "green place" (an Emerald City?) and on the way discover aspects of themselves they believed absent or lost: Furiosa's hope, Nux's self-worth and Max's humanity. Finally, they discover that the green place can't give them what they want, and that there really is no place like home.
Well just like previous installments of Max's wanderings it does take place in another mythical 'Oz'.
Which one was Toto?
Here: Fury Road - stripped of color and dialog, and for my money, even better this way. I'll say nothing else. Enjoy!
https://blackandchrome.wordpress.com
Have rented it again on the Box-Office channel and will watch it again soon.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 September, 2015, 12:59:06 PM
I mentioned this on Facebook recently: I'm still chewing over the rich old stew of metaphor and subtext that Fury Road served up in the guise of a thunderous action movie and it dawned on me: it's the Wizard of Oz.
I know that almost any 'journey' movie can be discussed in terms of Oz (which, in itself, is a sly humanist subversion of Pilgrim's Progress) but Fury Road starts with a storm (there are even tornadoes); the travellers are heading for the "green place" (an Emerald City?) and on the way discover aspects of themselves they believed absent or lost: Furiosa's hope, Nux's self-worth and Max's humanity. Finally, they discover that the green place can't give them what they want, and that there really is no place like home.
Cheers!
Jim
I thought the
Green Place is kind of like a person who you think is gullible, but now not.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 September, 2015, 12:59:06 PM
I mentioned this on Facebook recently: I'm still chewing over the rich old stew of metaphor and subtext that Fury Road served up in the guise of a thunderous action movie and it dawned on me: it's the Wizard of Oz.
I know that almost any 'journey' movie can be discussed in terms of Oz (which, in itself, is a sly humanist subversion of Pilgrim's Progress) but Fury Road starts with a storm (there are even tornadoes); the travellers are heading for the "green place" (an Emerald City?) and on the way discover aspects of themselves they believed absent or lost: Furiosa's hope, Nux's self-worth and Max's humanity. Finally, they discover that the green place can't give them what they want, and that there really is no place like home.
Cheers!
Jim
I have made a personal mental analogy of between the official
Mad Max video game and
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, but I'll keep those parallels to myself for now.
So, this mysterious Black and Chrome version indeed exists, but was predictably enough, hauled down by Warner Bros. I don't think I need to tell yiz which nefarious sites to go if you were intrigued enough to try track it down.
Anyway, as an example:
http://nerdist.com/finally-witness-a-bl ... fury-road/
And the original source of the Black and Chrome version:
https://blackandchrome.wordpress.com/
I've watched it twice now and I'd say I enjoyed this far more than I thought possible. It's thrilling how well the movie works without any dialog whatsoever and at times, I felt like I was watching some weird lost silent classic. Loved it. Won't be for everyone but a very unique and beautiful version of the film.
The opening without any narration is far more powerful than what's in the original. That opening shot of Max standing beside the Interceptor in complete silence beyond some ethereal sinister whispering voices of the victims is beyond haunting.
What struck me was how much clearer some of the visuals are when you've nothing else to focus on. The final chase in particular benefits from having no distractions. For some reason, it's much clearer how Furiosa hooks Joe's mouthpiece at the end. Great stuff.
My biggest takeaway from all this was that the little girl Max keeps 'seeing' is some kind of demon. I dunno. Maybe I've just overloaded on this thing...
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 September, 2015, 03:01:24 PM
So, this mysterious Black and Chrome version indeed exists, but was predictably enough, hauled down by Warner Bros.
Predictably enough it was created by a fan.
"Thank you for liking, sharing, and watching BLACK & CHROME. This is it for now. Your response has truly shown what the joy of movies is about. Hopefully, the right person(s) will have WITNESSED this and we can look forward to an official version of Mad Max: Fury Road in black and white. The film has lived, and has died, but can it live again?"https://blackandchrome.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/17/
Yeah, figured it wouldn't last long. Someone managed to acquire me a copy of it and it's been on a loop since.
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 September, 2015, 10:06:44 PM
Yeah, figured it wouldn't last long. Someone managed to acquire me a copy of it and it's been on a loop since.
I hope that (or something very similar) gets a legit release somehow... If George wants it to be seen that way, it'd be nice if he could find a way to make it happen.
Quote from: ming on 28 September, 2015, 08:59:08 AM
I hope that (or something very similar) gets a legit release somehow... If George wants it to be seen that way, it'd be nice if he could find a way to make it happen.
Pretty sure there's supposed to be a B&W (although not dialogue-free) version on the blu-ray, isn't there...?
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 28 September, 2015, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: ming on 28 September, 2015, 08:59:08 AM
I hope that (or something very similar) gets a legit release somehow... If George wants it to be seen that way, it'd be nice if he could find a way to make it happen.
Pretty sure there's supposed to be a B&W (although not dialogue-free) version on the blu-ray, isn't there...?
Cheers
Jim
Looking around, it seems that the Black and White version is being held back for some kind of special edition release. Fingers crossed, then.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2NZ3GPZXGQFWO/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00XQ13ZSO&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=2625373011&store=movies-tv
This is out on DVD (and Blueray for you posh types) on Monday. Apologies if this has been discussed already (not noticed, but then...) but I'm really looking forward to seeing how it transfers to the small screen. I regret seeing it only once at the cinema (though given how often I get to the cinema to see a movie that don't involve either Princesses or animated animals that's still not bad going) as I'm a little nervous as to how it will live up to the widescreen, totally immersive experience that you get there, when placed on my telly, which is nice and all but ain't going to compare.
I suspect some folk here will have seen it on a small screen (well modern tellies are hardly that!), by the power of some magic I don't understand and was wondering if that is the case how it hold up?
A good film is still a good film, but this one used its medium so very well.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 28 September, 2015, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: ming on 28 September, 2015, 08:59:08 AM
I hope that (or something very similar) gets a legit release somehow... If George wants it to be seen that way, it'd be nice if he could find a way to make it happen.
Pretty sure there's supposed to be a B&W (although not dialogue-free) version on the blu-ray, isn't there...?
Cheers
Jim
You can always turn the color down on the telly...! (Yeah, Miller wanted it on there but I guess he lost that battle.)
Quote from: ming on 28 September, 2015, 10:09:51 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 28 September, 2015, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: ming on 28 September, 2015, 08:59:08 AM
I hope that (or something very similar) gets a legit release somehow... If George wants it to be seen that way, it'd be nice if he could find a way to make it happen.
Pretty sure there's supposed to be a B&W (although not dialogue-free) version on the blu-ray, isn't there...?
Cheers
Jim
Looking around, it seems that the Black and White version is being held back for some kind of special edition release. Fingers crossed, then.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2NZ3GPZXGQFWO/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00XQ13ZSO&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=2625373011&store=movies-tv
I'd be a little wary of this comment, Ming, only because Miller has been adamant there's no such version of a director's cut and that the finished movie is exactly the cut he's happy with. Warners may well do one without his blessing (it happens) but I would hope we at least see the b/w one he wanted. (The Black & Chrome one still has a sound fx channel attached, even if the soundtrack beautifully overpowers that when it kicks in but I'd be curious to see it with soundtrack only. In a perfect world, it would be glorious to see any extended dialog shots cut down to expressions and body language only, to REALLY sell the "lost silent movie" experience.)
You'll all be fascinated to learn that this is the first Blu-Ray I've ever bought. Got it during the week and just about to find out if it works.
Empire Fury Road spoiler podcast. Interesting stuff.
http://www.empireonline.com/News/story.asp?nid=45655
Haha clever!
Mad Max Fury Road in 8-Bit Game style!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsXWTcVvCwQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsXWTcVvCwQ)
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 14 October, 2015, 12:02:21 PM
Empire Fury Road spoiler podcast. Interesting stuff.
http://www.empireonline.com/News/story.asp?nid=45655
Great interview with Miller. Thanks!
I watched the extras on the blu ray this weekend, (a series of "making of" features that last around an hour and half in total the longest "Maximum Fury: Filming Fury Road " being just under 30 mins)while they are not super immersive they are certainly solid and give a great insight in to just how in depth the production of the movie and the design in particular went, there is so much detail in the vehicles that are barely glipmsed on screen.
I cant wait to get the art of book
Those vehicle are just glorious, total works of art and engineering
wonder if there will be more expanded edition down the line
Quote from: Judge Nutmeg on 27 October, 2015, 09:36:17 PM
wonder if there will be more expanded edition down the line
Not sure it needs it?
Anyway watched it again on telly and while, yeah I kinda wished I'd seen it again at the cinema and yeah I wished I'd kept my surround sound etc etc but none of that, none of it took away from the film. Its brilliant and loses nothing from the diminishing of the watching rig. In fact the slightly annoying habit of stopping and reviewing things is great. Yeah it kinda took away from one of the films key features, its relentless pace and dynamic lean storytelling, but it helped me dig out bits I'd missed, unearth bits that had roared past me at first viewing. Which might sound a problem, but it,, like the best entertainment, the best comics, makes you want to go back to it as you know you'll get more each time. And ya know what, the minute it finished this second viewing I wanted to go back and watch it again.
Can't think of anything better I can say about it than that.
Got nominations at Golden Globes for best film and director! Nice.
It's a wrap - thanks George.
George Miller will never make another 'Mad Max' movie
http://pagesix.com/2016/01/11/george-miller-will-never-make-another-mad-max-movie/
Disapointing, but satisfying also. Better to be left wanting more than be served consistently awful sequel fodder.
I'd wait for a more respected source, Joe. We saw Fury Road here on Friday in LA with a Dr. Miller Q & A afterwards, and he was gung-ho to do another one. Said he's got a handful of stories he could tell, just trying to figure out which one.
In saying that, if we never get another one, that's okay too.
Golden Globes drunken haze reporting...or it's true and he's doing a Furiosa film instead.
Good, as he make a perfect Mad Max film. Leave it as that.
Miller might not make another, but that doesn't mean the studio won't.
I'm not sure they can without his blessing. Didn't he get the rights back to Mad Max in the late 90's?
Quote from: Mister Pops on 12 January, 2016, 06:58:01 PM
Miller might not make another, but that doesn't mean the studio won't.
George Miller's production company holds the rights to Mad Max, so the studio can't do anything without his approval.
As to the accuracy of this "no more Mad Max films", I'd say it's probably sabre-rattling at the studio in order to get deals sorted so they CAN make more Mad Max films.
There's a bloody good script for a Furiosa film (I've read it, it's REALLY good, very different to FR) and a great concept for a Max film too, in a slightly more primitive form. It's all there, ready to go...!
Quote from: inkymonkey on 12 January, 2016, 10:30:18 PM
There's a bloody good script for a Furiosa film (I've read it, it's REALLY good, very different to FR) and a great concept for a Max film too, in a slightly more primitive form. It's all there, ready to go...!
As much as I like the Mad Max films we've had, I think I'd rather see a new Furiosa film (and wasn't Fury Road more a Furiosa film than Mad Max?)
Why choose - lets have both, they can film them back to back and all that type stuff!
Seriously if we get one fine, if we don't I'm happy with what we have.
Quote from: inkymonkey on 12 January, 2016, 10:30:18 PMThere's a bloody good script for a Furiosa film (I've read it, it's REALLY good, very different to FR) and a great concept for a Max film too, in a slightly more primitive form. It's all there, ready to go...!
I hope it's really good and most important, better than this horrible comicbook Furiosa backstory from Vertigo (i liked the miniseries a lot but Furiosa issue was simply bad).
saw it just 2 days ago - great film - had to buy the soundtrack immedietly afterwards - bonzer
Up for some Oscars, including Best Film. Just for such an out there action movie to get a nomination is amazing, if it won it would be quite unusual and special.
Sadly, I think The Revenant is going to sweep this year. Could never see FR getting Best Pic but hold some hope Miller might nab Best Director. It's a great Hollywood comeback story for the man, and they do love those.
Mad Max: George Miller Says He Does Plan To Make Fury Road Sequels
http://screenrant.com/mad-max-sequels-george-miller-director/
Mad Max: George Miller Willing to Pass the Franchise to Another Director
http://screenrant.com/mad-max-fury-road-george-miller-franchise-new-director/
Mad Mel directs Mad Max...? C'mon. You know it's the only way.
Quote from: blackmocco on 14 January, 2016, 06:36:07 PM
Mad Mel directs Mad Max...? C'mon. You know it's the only way.
Great minds think alike - he was the only other to enter my head.
Miller also wanted to clarify the news story from earlier this week that suggested he was never going to do another Mad Max movie. "All I said was it won't be the film I do next," said Miller. "I'd like to do something smaller, quick — before I go back to the wasteland."
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/14/george-miller-oscars-mad-max
Change of subject; what happened with the merchandising? I really want a Remote Control Gigahorse!
Quote from: Mister Pops on 17 January, 2016, 02:35:36 AM
Change of subject; what happened with the merchandising? I really want a Remote Control Gigahorse!
I want official Fury Road Lego!
Seems a bit of a shame that despite winning 'Production Design' and 'Costume Design' oscars our kid Brendan's name seems absent from all the oscars coverage.
Necropost!
It looks like a legal row between Miller and Warner Bros may put the skids on any potential sequel:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/apr/18/mad-max-fury-road-sequel-george-miller (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/apr/18/mad-max-fury-road-sequel-george-miller)
Watched this again on DVD recently and it really stands up, even on a small screen
Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 April, 2018, 05:29:32 PM
Watched this again on DVD
I miss the 20th century.
It was so quaint. All those wars and stuff.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 April, 2018, 05:29:32 PMIt looks like a legal row between Miller and Warner Bros may put the skids on any potential sequel:
George Miller owns the Mad Max property so he can probably take it elsewhere.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 April, 2018, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 April, 2018, 05:29:32 PMIt looks like a legal row between Miller and Warner Bros may put the skids on any potential sequel:
George Miller owns the Mad Max property so he can probably take it elsewhere.
If he could wouldn't he have done that by now ... mind I'm not sure I understand how these things work so what do I know.
Either way its a real shame as I'd love to see a follow up to what on some days is my favourite movie of all time!
Really a shame. Especially if there are stories which Miller really wants to put out there.
Regardless what goes on BTS, a sequel or not. I love this so much!
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 18 April, 2018, 07:38:17 PMIf he could wouldn't he have done that by now ...
Depends if there's a rights share for sequels with WB (and Brett Ratner's company) and how much he wants to make another Mad Max after the last film, but rights don't seem to be one of the points of contention in the court documents. It seems more an argument over the amount of money WB had to shell-out over several years to get it made. Wonder if WB care as much about any more MM films with Miller since Fury Road didn't make enough for them at the box-office despite its success.
Orignally, Fury Road was to be made with 20TH-C-FOX.
Watched it again tonight and defo my favourite film of all time (... until I watch Princess Bride again that is!)
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 09 June, 2018, 10:24:35 PM
Watched it again tonight and defo my favourite film of all time (... until I watch Princess Bride again that is!)
Both these statements are true
It really is the best action movie/blockbuster of the last 15(?) years, isn't it?
Quote from: radiator on 11 June, 2018, 05:39:29 PM
It really is the best action movie/blockbuster of the last 15(?) years, isn't it?
Hmmm...is it, really?
Its good and I liked it, but i wouldnt say it is the best film ever or the best action / blockbuster of the last 15 years.
For my taste I preferred, of films from recent years:
Guardians of the Galaxy
Dredd
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Avengers Assemble
Captain America Civil War
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 09 June, 2018, 10:24:35 PM
Watched it again tonight and defo my favourite film of all time (... until I watch Princess Bride again that is!)
In terms of favourite ever films I would put the following ahead of it:
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Terminator
Terminator 2
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Spider-man (Toby Maguire)
Alien
Aliens
Total Recall (Annie)
RoboCop
Plus probably loads I can't remember off the top of my head.
Quote from: Magnetica on 11 June, 2018, 06:51:24 PM
Total Recall (Annie)
Is that the one where they sang "It's a hard knock life, when you've got three breasts"?
In terms of action, stunts, choreography, cinematography etc, Fury Road is easily the best action film since The Matrix as far as I'm concerned.
Each to their own, but for me, the Marvel movies are enjoyable but ultimately disposable (even the very best of them - GotG, The Avengers - I'd only rate as a high 4 out of 5), and the new Star Wars movies have been mediocre plain and simple. Fury Road is such a tightly constructed film, and made with such a vision and singular purpose it just blows everything on that list out of the water. I mean, can you even name a single memorable action scene from, say, The Force Awakens...?
I'm not sure Dredd is really a fair comparison - it's certainly one of the best genre movies of recent years, but I almost wouldn't describe it as an action movie (it doesn't actually have a huge amount if action in it when you break down), and it's certainly no blockbuster.
Quote from: Tjm86 on 11 June, 2018, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: Magnetica on 11 June, 2018, 06:51:24 PM
Total Recall (Annie)
Is that the one where they sang "It's a hard knock life, when you've got three breasts"?
It's a trios knocker life?
Fury Road is definitely up there with the best of them. I absolutely adore it and it just gets better with each viewing. I certainly can't name a film that's so full of adrenaline from start to finish - I almost felt exhausted when I came out of the cinema the first time I saw it.
For me the reason it is soooo good is it one of the few films, certainly in recent times that realises that cinema is a visual medium and story, characters and themes can all be developed by showing not telling. This in turn allows it to pull off having an interesting story, characters and themes while being an absolute thrill a minute none stop adrenaline fest.
Its simply doesn't compromise anywhere as it doesn't feel the need to explain everything to the watcher and allows them to draw things out from what they see, making it more engaging at there same time.
Oh and cos it does all that it manages to cram more thrills, ideas and originality in under two hours that any film I've seem for a long time manage in what seems these days like the obligatory 2 1/2 - 3 hrs.
And that my learned friends is why its my favourite film of all time ... of that and its super cool fun and looks so astonishing. Just a joy.
Plus, ya know, it's freaking nuts insane and visually everything that is good about dystopian sci-fi.
(http://larnakaonline.com.cy/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/s0dipwau9szowpufzznt.gif?x90820)
Quote from: radiator on 11 June, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
I mean, can you even name a single memorable action scene from, say, The Force Awakens...?
It might not have as much action as Fury Road, but I'd rather sit through TFA again than Fury Road and to me that is probably the most important measure of a film. A good film isn't just about the action.
Another example - there seem to be a period a few years ago when The Terminator seem to be on "all the time"and I would sit there and watch bits of it even though I must have seen them countless times.
Quotecan you even name a single memorable action scene from, say, The Force Awakens...?
Three spring to mind:
1. The attack on the village where Max von Sydow gets his chips, and Finn gets a bloody helmet.
2. The chase scene in the market where Finn and Rey escape on the Millennium Falcon.
3. The saber fight in the snowy forest - amazing use of lighting.
But I think Fury Road (which I love) is the better movie. Having said that, I'm a bit difficult to please, and so I'd only give Fury Road 4 of 5 stars because the ending is too corny. I think Mad Max 2 (aka The Road Warrior) is a better movie.
The Force Awakens features action but it's not an 'action-film'; it doesn't use action in the way Fury Road uses action as the primary mechanism to tells its story. Fury Road is closer to The Raid in that regard.
Comparing superhero films and Star Wars to Mad Max in that way is kind of missing the point of what makes them different, regardless of the quality of each.
Agreed they Marvel and Star Wars films aren't action films. But they are blockbusters.
Quote from: Magnetica on 11 June, 2018, 10:42:07 PM
Agreed they Marvel and Star Wars films aren't action films. But they are blockbusters.
Fury Road does skew older though and didn't do blockbuster box-office, even though it had good marketing and great reviews. You would never have the sustained intensity of Fury Road in a family film.
Quote from: radiator on 11 June, 2018, 05:39:29 PM
It really is the best action movie/blockbuster of the last 15(?) years, isn't it?
Yes, yes it is.
Quote from: James Stacey on 14 June, 2018, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: radiator on 11 June, 2018, 05:39:29 PM
It really is the best action movie/blockbuster of the last 15(?) years, isn't it?
Yes, yes it is.
Yup....think I'd have to agree.
There's no fat in it whatsoever - appropriately enough it's like a finely-tuned engine.
I also love how the action is insane, but unlike so many modern blockbusters it never crosses over into being so over the top that it shatters any sense of reality and suspension of disbelief and just becomes visual noise.
I love how the worldbuilding is almost entirely visual and packs so much information in without having characters spouting exposition, or beating the audience over the head with it. I think people that complained that it had 'no story' and was 'just one long action scene' simply don't have a solid understanding of storytelling. It's one of the best written blockbusters I've ever seen!
Damn, I need to watch it again!
Shockingly I hadn't seen The Road Warrior before Fury Road. I quickly rectified this, and while I liked it, it's hard to appreciate fully without the nostalgia you'd have for it if you'd watched it a lot growing up. It's not even really fair to compare them given the huge disparity in budget. But I'd say RW drags a bit in places, whereas FR just has this irresistible breakneck pacing from start to finish.
Quote from: radiator on 14 June, 2018, 08:34:10 PM
I hadn't seen The Road Warrior before Fury Road. I quickly rectified this, and while I liked it, it's hard to appreciate fully without the nostalgia you'd have for it if you'd watched it a lot growing up. It's not even really fair to compare them given the huge disparity in budget. But I'd say RW drags a bit in places, whereas FR just has this irresistible breakneck pacing from start to finish.
The two films were made 35 years apart; it took
Terminator 2 (https://youtu.be/kwMMpmaQPPA),
Matrix 2 (https://youtu.be/L8OZpmIWcxg?t=6s) and
Bourne 2 (https://youtu.be/B67yQmg8xVE?t=24s) to get audiences even half-way to where George Miller wanted to take them. *
Mad Max 2's still operating on the
Where Eagles Dare/Fistful Of Dollars model of a dramatic set-up with occassional action scenes, rather than pure action.
In terms of the evolving grammar of action cinema, 35 years before
Mad Max 2, the hot action ticket was John Wayne winning the war in the Pacific theatre (https://youtu.be/tIF7tW5GlWs?t=1h13m41s).
* Even then, as previously noted, Fury Road wasn't a runaway success
I'm stunned this film has generated so much praise on here, personally I thought it was shite.
You thought wrong.
Quote from: Frank on 14 June, 2018, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: radiator on 14 June, 2018, 08:34:10 PM
I hadn't seen The Road Warrior before Fury Road. I quickly rectified this, and while I liked it, it's hard to appreciate fully without the nostalgia you'd have for it if you'd watched it a lot growing up. It's not even really fair to compare them given the huge disparity in budget. But I'd say RW drags a bit in places, whereas FR just has this irresistible breakneck pacing from start to finish.
The two films were made 35 years apart; it took Terminator 2 (https://youtu.be/kwMMpmaQPPA), Matrix 2 (https://youtu.be/L8OZpmIWcxg?t=6s) and Bourne 2 (https://youtu.be/B67yQmg8xVE?t=24s) to get audiences even half-way to where George Miller wanted to take them. *
Mad Max 2's still operating on the Where Eagles Dare/Fistful Of Dollars model of a dramatic set-up with occassional action scenes, rather than pure action.
In terms of the evolving grammar of action cinema, 35 years before Mad Max 2, the hot action ticket was John Wayne winning the war in the Pacific theatre (https://youtu.be/tIF7tW5GlWs?t=1h13m41s).
* Even then, as previously noted, Fury Road wasn't a runaway success
Totally - that's why it's hard to directly compare them.
Quote from: moogie101 on 14 June, 2018, 10:00:07 PM
I'm stunned this film has generated so much praise on here, personally I thought it was shite.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/abb2548cbadd44c42e71082fc3705ae8/tenor.gif?itemid=5867118)
Quote from: moogie101 on 14 June, 2018, 10:00:07 PM
I'm stunned this film has generated so much praise on here, personally I thought it was shite.
They are joking, of course, when they say you "thought wrong". Everybody is entitled to an opinion, especially around art. My big brother - a bit of a cinephile - didn't like it either. So he's off my Christmas card list.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 15 June, 2018, 09:31:15 AM
Quote from: moogie101 on 14 June, 2018, 10:00:07 PM
I'm stunned this film has generated so much praise on here, personally I thought it was shite.
They are joking, of course, when they say you "thought wrong". Everybody is entitled to an opinion, especially around art. My big brother - a bit of a cinephile - didn't like it either. So he's off my Christmas card list.
I think even those who don't like it surely must be able to appreciate the production design or stunt work. It's awesome on many levels.
one of the many reasons for its genius
http://vashivisuals.com/the-editing-of-mad-max-fury-road/
Quote from: James Stacey on 15 June, 2018, 11:14:26 AM
one of the many reasons for its genius
http://vashivisuals.com/the-editing-of-mad-max-fury-road/
Great little piece that, cheers. Damn you, I need to watch it again now!
That's a really interesting article.
I took none of that in when watching the film as I spent the entire film with my jaw agape or flinching from the action, which just goes to prove what an achievement it is.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 11 June, 2018, 08:59:55 PM
For me the reason it is soooo good is it one of the few films, certainly in recent times that realises that cinema is a visual medium and story, characters and themes can all be developed by showing not telling. This in turn allows it to pull off having an interesting story, characters and themes while being an absolute thrill a minute non-stop adrenaline fest.
Its simply doesn't compromise anywhere as it doesn't feel the need to explain everything to the watcher and allows them to draw things out from what they see, making it more engaging at there same time.
All these things but especially this. I'd forgotten how good it was but this rush of enthusiasm from everyone really has me hankering to watch it again. Maybe if can be the first thing we see in the new flat on Saturday night!
Imagine the world we might live in if Miller had got to make that Justice League film he wanted to.
There's a rumor that the legal scuffle over the property are the reason Rage 2 exists. Supposedly the studio were pretty far along with a sequel to their Mad Max game when all the lawsuits started flying so there's a bit of scuttlebutt that what they had has been repurposed into a Rage sequel. Would make sense, aside from the party-rock tone of the trailers there's a real Mad Max vibe coming from it so you could see where it might have started out as that - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPRE5pak6k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPRE5pak6k)
Not sure its anything to do with that. WB games didn't like that the first one didn't make the expected returns for them so they shipped their sequel ideas to Id apparently.
Quote from: I, Cosh on 15 June, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
Imagine the world we might live in if Miller had got to make that Justice League film he wanted to.
A world without Fury Road.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY2G07PVMAENs3b.jpg)
Just had to post higher res versions of the costume test images from George's JL:Mortal.
So, so happy this film never got made. Though seeing Megan Gale as Wonder Woman was a pleasant experience. Poor bloody Immortan Joe nearly expired under all those Martian Manhunter prosthetics though.
It is somewhat sobering to think that it was Happy Feet that finally enabled Fury Road to get made...
Sure they look a little goofy in those particular pictures, but overall I much prefer those costume designs to the current ones in the DC movies.
Quote from: radiator on 20 June, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Sure they look a little goofy in those particular pictures, but overall I much prefer those costume designs to the current ones in the DC movies.
As I said in the Justice League movie thread: DC/Warner badly need to fire their entire production/costume design department. The aesthetic manages to be simultaneously boring
and ugly, which is quite a feat. As overpowering as the Burton/Furst designs of the Batman movie were, at least there was a sense of coherence to them.
Quote from: inkymonkey on 16 June, 2018, 01:56:24 PM
Just had to post higher res versions of the costume test images from George's JL:Mortal.
So, so happy this film never got made. Though seeing Megan Gale as Wonder Woman was a pleasant experience. Poor bloody Immortan Joe nearly expired under all those Martian Manhunter prosthetics though.
It is somewhat sobering to think that it was Happy Feet that finally enabled Fury Road to get made...
Yeah, this looks a little stiff and Superman looks like one of the guys hanging around Hollywood Blvd forcing you to pay him money when you take a pic with him but I trust Miller. We'll never really know how this would have looked once it was polished up but Miller's got a good head on his shoulders. He'd have pulled this off. I mean, honestly, could it have ended up any worse than what's currently going on in DC-land...?
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2018, 05:05:04 PM
Yeah, this looks a little stiff and Superman looks like one of the guys hanging around Hollywood Blvd forcing you to pay him money when you take a pic with him but I trust Miller. We'll never really know how this would have looked once it was polished up but Miller's got a good head on his shoulders. He'd have pulled this off. I mean, honestly, could it have ended up any worse than what's currently going on in DC-land...?
I probably should have pointed out that only the actors playing Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter are shown here, the rest of them are Weta Workshop guys...
Armie Hammer was playing Bruce Wayne/Batman - the guy is 6' 4" on his own, with the Batsuit on he was nearly 7 ft. It was - impressive.
On the other hand, DJ Catrona as Superman was about 5' 7"...
Plenty of apple boxes on set...
Quote from: inkymonkey on 22 June, 2018, 12:28:22 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2018, 05:05:04 PM
Yeah, this looks a little stiff and Superman looks like one of the guys hanging around Hollywood Blvd forcing you to pay him money when you take a pic with him but I trust Miller. We'll never really know how this would have looked once it was polished up but Miller's got a good head on his shoulders. He'd have pulled this off. I mean, honestly, could it have ended up any worse than what's currently going on in DC-land...?
I probably should have pointed out that only the actors playing Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter are shown here, the rest of them are Weta Workshop guys...
Armie Hammer was playing Bruce Wayne/Batman - the guy is 6' 4" on his own, with the Batsuit on he was nearly 7 ft. It was - impressive.
On the other hand, DJ Catrona as Superman was about 5' 7"...
Plenty of apple boxes on set...
Oh shit. haha! Well, that explains Superman!
Armie Hammer would have (and still would, in fact) make a great Bruce Wayne.