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Started by Fatboydale, 20 January, 2013, 07:32:39 PM

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Jim_Campbell

Yeah, David Roach is definitely yer man. FWIW, I'm not bad at this sort of thing and I agree that the big profile in the first panel is has a strong Ortiz-y vibe to it, but I'm not getting Ortiz from the inks. There's some smudgy dry-brush work that was very typical of Mike White's style, but his figures were chunkier.

I'm pretty certain there's more than one pair of hands at work here, and there's a little voice in the back of my head that looks at the b/g in panel 1, a lot of the hands, and particularly panel 7 and wants to say "Jim Baikie".

I know that doesn't help!

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Jim
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Greg M.

In some ways it does help, Jim - and it's a lot of fun to speculate either way! What you say about the smudgy quality of some of the inking is certainly present and correct on the other pages I've got that I know are definitely Mike White. Similarly, Danny Kuziak (the main character with the 70s-style mop of dark hair) seems to be drawn pretty much identically to earlier episodes. Maybe the page began as White's work and was touched up or revised by another artist? It's a conundrum, all right.

Spikes

#302
A brilliant page that, Greg - congrats on snagging it!
(Ive been watching these pages for ages, and now ive seen the better scan of it, i wish id jumped on them!)
And for my money its Mike White - with, possibily, some alterations from somebody else, due to the artwork being altered/censored.
I dont think the publisher would have spent any real time, money or effort into censoring the pages, such as employing another artist to make any changes - thats not beyond the realms of possibility, of course. Though a quick look at some of the pages that were censored, reveal that pretty shoddy butchery was involved.

Quote from: maryanddavid on 06 September, 2013, 07:39:03 PM
Its from the 3rd issue post ban, Mike white had left 'Hell's Highway' to draw Kids Rule pre ban, according to Martin Bakers book.

When the ban took Action from the shelves (without checking, the last pre-ban issue is dated sometime in October? and it didnt return til December?) i think its been stated that the comic had six weeks worth of material already completed for the various strips, or near as damnit.
(And a couple of issues leading up to the ban saw self imposed censoreship applied to the comic in an attempt to deflect some of the oncoming heat, but alas, that proved fruitless).
So with that amount of backlog of material ready for use, its not impossible for these to be drawn by Mike. And the art is pretty consistant with other episodes he drew.

maryanddavid

QuoteI don't think the publisher would have spent any real time, money or effort into censoring the pages, such as employing another artist to make any changes

They didn't have to employ artist to touch up, there was already on staff art Eds and assistant art Eds (themselves talented artists)  whowould touch up and drastically change artwork as required.
I.P.C. had a policy that every page paid for was used, and with very few exceptions that hapened.

Spikes

Fair point and one i dont disagree with, but my point was i wouldnt have thought theyd have employed, say, Ortiz to come in and alter Mike's art - and thus cause the confusion we have regarding the artist's identity.

Some of the censored pages in Martin's book are truly shocking in how theyve been altered.
And theres some equally bad examples in the last few pre-ban issues as well.
Which personally gives me the impression that somebody at the very top took a very hard line and said 'Right alter that, alter this, and spend no time on it', and that ultimately proved pointless, as the bulk of these pages never got used when Action returned. And only saw the light of day when Martin's book was released in the 90's.

maryanddavid

Sorry, I missed that point, and yes powers that be did authorise some serious alterations on stories. I put a small piece on Facebook this eve coincidently, doing a pit of pimping for the new magg about the censorship on Inferno.
https://www.facebook.com/HiberniaComics/posts/426727320772104

Fatboydale


Greg M.

Another name thrown into the ring, and the plot thickens! Thanks for asking David, Dale.

Bubba Zebill

I see those Jim Baikie touches now too that Jim Campbell mentioned. The bodies in panel 6, the legs and bullets in the final panel. It could be in-house reworking...a wonderful page.
Judge Dredd : The Dark (Gamebook)
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Bubba Zebill

Here's my theory...it's a combo job between Mike White and Jim Eldridge.

That might explain the way the panels seem to differ so strikingly...and the similarity to Jim Baikie. Both Jim's B and E worked on loads of publications for girls (Bunty?) at the time. Perhaps pressure to maintain the same sort of look forged similarities in their work early on.
Judge Dredd : The Dark (Gamebook)
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Bubba Zebill

Quote from: Greg M. on 07 September, 2013, 07:04:29 AM
Another name thrown into the ring, and the plot thickens! Thanks for asking David, Dale.

...and those would be some Jim Baikie lips you're sporting right their, Greg M !
Judge Dredd : The Dark (Gamebook)
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Colin YNWA

I know this thread is meant to be about stuff you own. But chances are I will NEVER own this but I can't express how much I'd LOVE to.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/09/19/asterix-page-goes-on-sale-next-month/

Is it wrong to wonder how much I'd get if I sold my children... they are very nice and all but would you look at that page...

Spikes

Not sure where to post the link  for these, but this seems like the best place.
Some incredibily lovely Vampirella pages by Gonzalo Mayo have gone up on e-Bay. Superb vintage (late 60's) as well.

Bubba Zebill

Hello... forgive me if this slightly off-topic, but there is a charity print project featuring Dave Gibbons, Dave McKean and myself among many others and as many of you are collectors I just wanted to draw it to your attention.

My submission has already raised 100 pounds for the charity.
You can read my post about it on my Gamebook thread...
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,38692.msg785436.html#msg785436

Or go direct to Dave Kirkwood here...
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mob-print-and-booklet
Judge Dredd : The Dark (Gamebook)
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Link Prime

Have recently bought...lessee...A TON of pages from Lew Stringer.

Here's a funny little Spidey one.