http://www.avforums.com/movies/Dredd-3D-review_11138/blu-ray.html
Sounds like they've skimped on the extras.Complaints about the 2D picture quality too :(
No commentary..? :-/
no 'Spaced' style "Homage-O-Meter"
This makes me sad
Tbh, I wasn't expecting much in the way of extras, and in any case I rarely bother with extras anyway - don't think I've ever once watched a film with a commentary track.
I imagine that if it does particularly well, they'll put out a special edition with more special features further down the line.
First the farce of no 2D showings and now the BD :'( It's like they don't want us to watch this in 2D!
Still be picking this up on BD, very sad it's bare bones. Man this a major disapointment.
Not that surprised there aren't many extras, what I expected were for the pre-release promo featurettes to be collected. A movie that does this poorly at the box office doesn't really get the same kind of bespoke blu-ray content love.
I'm not too disheartened by the picture review either, he didn't mention anything that I think I'll particularly notice or be bothered by.
The sound review really has be excited though, as the sound design in the movie is tremendous so to have it done justice really has me tempted to watch it at neighbour-irritating volumes when it comes out.
Never wanted to own a movie more in my life I don't think.
Wonder if the US version is the same?
Quote from: sheldipez on 18 December, 2012, 11:55:14 AM
First the farce of no 2D showings and now the BD :'( It's like they don't want us to watch this in 2D!
Still be picking this up on BD, very sad it's bare bones. Man this a major disapointment.
It's hardly bare bones. It's got 40 minutes of extras.
As the cult status builds, perhaps another 'collectors edition' may find some more extras.
In this instance I'm very happy fall for that one.
By Grud! those PR moneys have fucked up our fantastic movie big style. Alot of hacked off fans and potential Dredd3D dvd / Bluray customers on social networking sites are pissed off about it not getting a release for Christmas ( . . . and now only skin and bone extra's?!).
Nice that Picture and audio are spot on. Thats the main thing. And this disc is getting bought. No two ways about it.
But as so little has been produced for Dredd (making of books etc) for us to pour over, a decent set of extras would have been the icing on the cake.
Shame were seeming to be getting some bog standard EPK bobbins. I imagine the stuff on You-Tube will be better. Not fussed about a commentary, though one would have been nice. As well as an extensive stills gallery.
EIV are a bit Poundshop at times. And i really cant see this film getting a second 'Special Edition' release.
I guess they had the full and complete DVD/Blu-Ray to review? Sometimes stuff gets held back...
We shall see, i guess.
Tbh as long as the transfer is good I'm happy. I even brought a 3d tv in readiness.
Quote from: dracula1 on 18 December, 2012, 06:06:29 PM
By Grud! those PR moneys have fucked up our fantastic movie big style. Alot of hacked off fans and potential Dredd3D dvd / Bluray customers on social networking sites are pissed off about it not getting a release for Christmas ( . . . and now only skin and bone extra's?!).
That will be the PR Monkeys that set up a screening of the film for a whole load of fans, go the star and director to introduce it, and got Carlos and John Wagner along to said screening?
Considering Dredd didn't do the business theatrically, I totally understand why the disc isn't chock full of extras.
A comentary and more extensive extras on a second dics would have been nice, but lay the blame at the door of those who didn't go to see it - EIV aren't a charity, they're a business.
Christmas is just some arbitrary date hijacked to sell more shit, does it really matter that you get it a month later?
It's also worth noting that we have previously been told that the extras were all locked down before the film was even released, so I doubt the film's box office takings influenced the decisions.
True, but there is the possiblity that there is stuff that could have gone in but dropped to make room for both versions on the single disc to keep costs down.
Thought I heard about things being recorded after the film release, but may be mistaken.
Alot of the general audience do think it matters that the film should have been released at Crimbo (I agree), it's these people that will help pump up the much needed profit levels through dvd / Bluray sales. As for the overall PR on the whole Dredd 3D movie it's been appaulling in the extreme (the creative team did their bit brilliantly though :D).
Then you'd run into the same issues that meant Dredd didn't get a summer release - the market is too crowded with the likes of Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, Prometheus, Spider-Man etc etc etc for a movie like Dredd to make an impact.
Is it the same people in charge of distributing the film in cinemas that are in charge of the dvd/blu ray? And are they in charge of it forever, or can someone else do a special edition at a later date?
Same company different division (in the UK)
Entertainment in video has the UK rights, and their theatrical division had the cinema distribution in the UK.
Lionsgate had the theatrical in the US, not sure who's handling the US Home Video releases.
You occasionally get companies like Criterion doing special editions, but not sure if Dredd is special enough for that - mind you they did a Criterion edition of The Rock and Robocop... so who knows.
A criterion one would be cool. Though probably wouldn't be done for ages. I think it fits into their style enough.
It's good, independent, got a cult following, probably quite obscure to the average joe. Maybe not arty enough for them but then the slow-mo I think could be classed as arty.
Can people send them suggestions of what they want to see in the collection?
I honestly don't know.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 December, 2012, 10:52:15 PM
A criterion one would be cool. Though probably wouldn't be done for ages. I think it fits into their style enough.
Would Criterion be interested in doing a release for a low-ish budget Brit niche drama with no real big names attatched that features a hard to understand, and often misunderstood lead character?
(http://i.imgur.com/EjVKp.jpg)
See you all in about 2042 then, ;)
I'm not sure how similar the DVD version will be but I ted to place slightly more importance on sound rather than picture quality. Just a few more weeks to go now.
I for one really liked the fact some fans got the advance screening. OK I was one of them but I woulda liked that even if I hadn't been.
I'll be buying it on blu-ray.
Quote from: dracula1 on 18 December, 2012, 06:06:29 PM
By Grud! those PR moneys have fucked up our fantastic movie big style. Alot of hacked off fans and potential Dredd3D dvd / Bluray customers on social networking sites are pissed off about it not getting a release for Christmas ( . . . and now only skin and bone extra's?!).
I very much doubt the release date will influence someone's decision to buy the film.
Besides, I've waited 35 years for a decent Judge Dredd film, I can wait another 3 weeks! ;)
To be honest, the only extras I tend to watch are the really high end ones that have a lot of content - The Lord of the Rings, The Alien Anthology etc.
The only thing that would really get me interested would be a substantial making of documentary (at least an hour long) and that's unlikely to happen now as it would have had to be made alongside the film.
Anyone heard a complaint about the 2d when it was screening in theaters (should be the same version)?
Good luck finding someone who saw one of those. They no doubt rode to the cinema on a unicorn.
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
Anyone heard about anyone finding the film in 2d when it was screening in theaters (should be the same version)?
FTFY
Having only caught the film in 3D, im intrigued to see it - in full, in 2D when the ol' shiny disc lands.
Blu-ray trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225Glg5CoVY
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 December, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
Blu-ray trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225Glg5CoVY
Anyone else agree that the trailer is beyond amazing!? No words enough to describe how much I wish that this would have been the debut trailer. Sure, I'd pissed myself but more people would definitely gone and seen it plus no discussion about Ma-Ma's death being shown or "Looks like the Raid.".
Trailer 2? Must have missed the first one. Also, why didn't they use all the quotes and stars stuff that you normally see on trailers. Dredd certainly got enough of them.
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
I'd pissed myself...
*Forgot to include "out of excitement.", just to make it clear I'd have a good reason to ;)
That trailer is SO much better than the theatrical one it's not even funny - it has so much more energy and attitude, and reflects the tone of the film much better.
Maybe people would have actually gone to see it if that was released instead... :(
Quote from: radiator on 19 December, 2012, 06:24:44 PM
That trailer is SO much better than the theatrical one it's not even funny - it has so much more energy and attitude, and reflects the tone of the film much better.
Maybe people would have actually gone to see it if that was released instead... :(
Making a push for it on facebook. It's not as iconic as Sin city or 300's, but pretty damn close, and that's enough. Especially love the feel you get from it that it doesn't show the best bits either, but the best is yet to come if you watch the whole thing.
By the way. Hideo Kojima, the man behind Metal Gear Solid and a fan of Escape from new york. Anyone else care to post a link to the trailer on his twitter demanding that he see's this since he likes EfNY? If he does, then more will follow!
Wow, that's a cracking trailer!!! Everyone post it on social sites NOW!!!
Love watching all the little clips they have posted too. It's gotten me all excited to see it again now.
Quote from: radiator on 19 December, 2012, 06:24:44 PM
That trailer is SO much better than the theatrical one it's not even funny - it has so much more energy and attitude, and reflects the tone of the film much better.
^ This.
Pretty high octane, isnt it.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 December, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
Blu-ray trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225Glg5CoVY
Is that the TV spot for the blu ray release? Agree with what everyone else is saying. It's brutally obvious now that the official cinema release trailer was just a shambles. No doubts if that one had been the trailer, a lot more people would have went to see it. I mean, I've seen the film twice and that trailer makes me excited to want to see it again.
That is such a good trailer for the blu ray, they should of brought the release date forward a couple of weeks though for xmas
Can we not start picking over the 'what they did wrong with the movie in the cinema' thing again, please?
I think it's all been said.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 19 December, 2012, 07:30:56 PM
Can we not start picking over the 'what they did wrong with the movie in the cinema' thing again, please?
I think it's all been said.
Agree.
Blu Ray trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=225Glg5CoVY
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
Anyone heard a complaint about the 2d when it was screening in theaters (should be the same version)?
I saw it twice in 2D and didn't see any problems.
There be pirates in the horizon!
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 December, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
Anyone heard a complaint about the 2d when it was screening in theaters (should be the same version)?
I saw it twice in 2D and didn't see any problems.
Great to hear Joe!
And yeah. The trailer has triggered some of my friends to say they'll buy the film day one. And one friend said he'll make sure he'll make sure he'll watch a good rip ::)
A good rip? FFS..
Quote from: SneakeeX on 19 December, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
There be pirates in the horizon!
Cineworld in Dublin played the 2D print for over a week.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 December, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
Anyone heard a complaint about the 2d when it was screening in theaters (should be the same version)?
I saw it twice in 2D and didn't see any problems.
Was the unicorn a smooth ride?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 December, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 19 December, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
There be pirates in the horizon!
Cineworld in Dublin played the 2D print for over a week.
Was there any noticable increase in numbers for the 2D screenings compared to the 3D screenings?
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 09:26:39 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 December, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 19 December, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
Anyone heard a complaint about the 2d when it was screening in theaters (should be the same version)?
I saw it twice in 2D and didn't see any problems.
Great to hear Joe!
And yeah. The trailer has triggered some of my friends to say they'll buy the film day one. And one friend said he'll make sure he'll make sure he'll watch a good rip ::)
Good for him! ::)
Quote from: Michaelvk on 19 December, 2012, 10:12:31 PM
A good rip? FFS..
I was a bit baffled when he said it. I told him to buy the damn thing, to up the chances for a sequel.
How long before we can slap people over the Internet?
Interesting as I notice there new people on Dredd IMDB forum last 24 hours, so I guess they saw pirate copy of Dredd :(
Indeed.There is an HD rip online, appears to be from a Korean source :(
I think it would be best to move on from this topic.
Quote from: Steve Green on 20 December, 2012, 01:52:38 PM
I think it would be best to move on from this topic.
I think that this is an excellent idea.
Please stop this discussion of pirated copies of the film.
Ok how 'bout this:
" Save me a lot of paper work if you just confess right now "
That's GOT to be a line from a Dirt Harry film ?
Anyone ?
;-)
This is neutral ground,
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68LllGgwyAU
I'm counting the days until the Blu Ray release-it's like September all over again!
The BD is currently £13 =http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B008OGHUFK/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1356016427&sr=1-1on amazon (http://=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B008OGHUFK/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1356016427&sr=1-1on%20amazon).
Quote from: Teivion on 20 December, 2012, 02:07:11 PM
Ok how 'bout this:
" Save me a lot of paper work if you just confess right now "
That's GOT to be a line from a Dirt Harry film ?
Anyone ?
;-)
Great scene to wrap up the trailer with. Wish there was one in the elevator too, "He's thinking of going after your gun" "Yep" haha.
And by the way. About the pirate thing I brought up, i accidently clicked ::) instead of :-[ . That makes sense?
I wasn't too happy about his support for the movie... And imagine it came off looking like I cheered for it :|
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 December, 2012, 03:02:30 PM
I'm counting the days until the Blu Ray release-it's like September all over again!
Ditto :)
I dunno if to pre-order it or just rush out first thing in the morning of release and go find it! which will be quickest?! :o
Blu-Ray.com (my most trusted source for Blu-Ray reviews and news) has a rather glowing review of the US release of Dredd 3D (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dredd-3D-Blu-ray/56292/#Review). They couldn't help make comparisons to the Stallone Film, but other wise Dredd 3D gets a 'Highly Recommend', which is their highest form of score.
I'd heard somewhere that the UK edition had some picture quality problems with the 2D version of the film, apparently that isn't the case (if it was the case at all) with the US edition.
Wow, that is a good review! I particulalrly liked this bit about the sound engineering:
QuoteDredd features a lossless DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 mix (optimized for the Neo:X 11.1 system) that is, in a word, astounding. The onslaught of LFE in this film is amazing and is perhaps surprisingly not limited to the ubiquitous gunfire. In fact my personal favorite sound effect throughout the entire film was the throbbing hum of an elevator that Anderson finds herself taken hostage in. But the entire film is awash in incredible surround activity from virtually the first moment, when we get Dredd's iconic motorcycle panning madly through the soundfield. Dynamic range is among the widest I've personally experienced, with everything from Dredd's hushed dialogue to absolutely over the top explosions handled with ease. One of the notable things about this film is how carefully the effects tracks have been assembled, with directionality really smartly done. So many action films just kind of throw the sonic bombast at the virtual wall, knowing that everything will stick. Dredd, however, very carefully places discrete effects at several key moments (one especially huge explosion which clearly erupts from the right side of the frame also does so aurally from the right channels). Fidelity is top notch and this certainly will be one of the reference quality audio tracks high definition aficionados will be talking about throughout 2013.
Anyone with a decent sound rig attached to their TV is going to have a ball! I'm quite tempted to nip out and get one now, to go alongside my new 3D TV! :D
Jeez, this film is going to make me so broke... ::)
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 December, 2012, 10:41:30 AM
Wow, that is a good review! I particulalrly liked this bit about the sound engineering:
QuoteDredd features a lossless DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 mix (optimized for the Neo:X 11.1 system) that is, in a word, astounding. The onslaught of LFE in this film is amazing and is perhaps surprisingly not limited to the ubiquitous gunfire. In fact my personal favorite sound effect throughout the entire film was the throbbing hum of an elevator that Anderson finds herself taken hostage in. But the entire film is awash in incredible surround activity from virtually the first moment, when we get Dredd's iconic motorcycle panning madly through the soundfield. Dynamic range is among the widest I've personally experienced, with everything from Dredd's hushed dialogue to absolutely over the top explosions handled with ease. One of the notable things about this film is how carefully the effects tracks have been assembled, with directionality really smartly done. So many action films just kind of throw the sonic bombast at the virtual wall, knowing that everything will stick. Dredd, however, very carefully places discrete effects at several key moments (one especially huge explosion which clearly erupts from the right side of the frame also does so aurally from the right channels). Fidelity is top notch and this certainly will be one of the reference quality audio tracks high definition aficionados will be talking about throughout 2013.
Anyone with a decent sound rig attached to their TV is going to have a ball! I'm quite tempted to nip out and get one now, to go alongside my new 3D TV! :D
Jeez, this film is going to make me so broke... ::)
That's interesting as I heard the UK disc is only receiving a 5.1 sound mix.
NUTS!!!
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 28 December, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
NUTS!!!
Although I've only got a fairly basic 5.1 surround system so a 7.1 mix would be wasted on me and I guess the US disc is region locked anyway.
Nice for those with a more advanced set-up.
most blurays aren't region locked, they kinda realised it was futile with DVD's worth a check. My surround sound system is 7.1 but I only have 3 speakers connected at the moment due to space :D
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 December, 2012, 03:20:48 PM
most blurays aren't region locked, they kinda realised it was futile with DVD's worth a check. My surround sound system is 7.1 but I only have 3 speakers connected at the moment due to space :D
The US tends not to bother region locking older titles. With new films it's rather hit and miss whether they do or not-time (and further reviews) will tell I guess.
Dredd - Creating The World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msu__1U6WsY)
Could be that the UK release contains more foreign language tracks whereas US releases tend to be English/Spanish.
Luckily I have a region-free player, but to be honest unless you've got a home theatre I doubt many will be able to tell much of a difference between a good 5.1 mix and the mixes above that.
It's all got a bit ridiculous once it got past 5.1.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 December, 2012, 03:52:43 PM
Dredd - Creating The World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msu__1U6WsY)
Why are these things all so damn short!
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 December, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
Why are these things all so damn short!
Otherwise you wouldn't buy the blu-ray.
Quote from: James Stacey on 28 December, 2012, 03:20:48 PM
most blurays aren't region locked, they kinda realised it was futile with DVD's worth a check. My surround sound system is 7.1 but I only have 3 speakers connected at the moment due to space :D
Unfortunately it would seem that the US release is region locked, but from what I've read on a couple of different review sites all of the different releases are from the same transfer anyway, so there's nothing to be gained from importing it.
I did spot this French collectors edition on Amazon, comes in a tin box and works out at around £25 - http://www.amazon.fr/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B00A2HCHF2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355227485&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.fr/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B00A2HCHF2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355227485&sr=8-1)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/beatnikslacker/blu%20ray/dred1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/beatnikslacker/blu%20ray/dred2.jpg)
Very nice....Very jealous over here...I guess it does not run on the UK system..( I think this was answered before?)
Also pleased you can download on iTunes as Ultra Violet seems to be a waste of time...
:D
It looks like we've ended up with the worst box out of all the regions/countries shown so far.
I can't stand those cardboard covers but the DVD itself looks nice.
Just a quick look online to see whats what regarding any possible steelbook release for the UK Blu-Ray - and nowt seems to be in the offing, as yet, but did find this fan produced concept.
(http://i.imgur.com/3MgdQ.jpg)
Summat like that wouldnt go amiss.
I like that. And, really, the badge should be embossed..
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/169256_461429987247214_720414013_o.jpg)
Truly striking Cover. When's this out on the 14th Jan 2013 as well?
Pre-ordered my copy, nothing fancy, but can't wait! :-D
The Australian one is the best so far.
Is there a link for the Oz one! I tried looking but drokked if I could find it :'(
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/promotions/dredd-new-release.htm
Maybe I'm slow but I just noticed the entry for the Dredd Blu-Ray and DVD on the US Amazon
DVD+Digital Copy
http://www.amazon.com/Dredd-Digital-Copy-Karl-Urban/dp/B009YQJ322/
DVD+Digital Copy+Ultraviolet (for some reason the box on this one is pictured wider)
http://www.amazon.com/Dredd-Blu-ray-Digital-Copy-UltraViolet/dp/B005LAII80/
Blu-ray (+digital, ultraviolet)
http://www.amazon.com/Dredd-Blu-ray-Digital-Copy-UltraViolet/dp/B005LAII80/
Cheers, only £35 and that includes the p&p
Quote from: MercZ on 01 January, 2013, 03:10:50 AM
DVD+Digital Copy+Ultraviolet (for some reason the box on this one is pictured wider)
It's the blu-ray boxes that are shorter than the DVD's so it looks wider in the picture.
Why is it that we suffer the worst cover of all the world wide releases?
The normal Australian covers are nicely done.
Really pissed off at EIV's cover even more.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 01 January, 2013, 03:33:35 AM
Quote from: MercZ on 01 January, 2013, 03:10:50 AM
DVD+Digital Copy+Ultraviolet (for some reason the box on this one is pictured wider)
It's the blu-ray boxes that are shorter than the DVD's so it looks wider in the picture.
I see that now, I had misread up the thing as another DVD edition, rather than the blu-ray combo.
So, as I understand it, or not as the case may be, at present we have:
UK DVD - Film and 8 featurettes £10
UK Blu-Ray - 2D and 3D versions, 8 featurettes £13
Aussie Blu-Ray - Film (will this work in the UK?) and 8 featurettes, plus comic (prequel?) and what the fork is an O Ring? £35
USA Blu-Ray - 3D Film and 8 featurettes, plus digital download (will this work in the UK?) plus UV (will this work in the UK?) £13.50 + p&p
USA DVD plus digital download (will this work in the UK?) - film plus 8 featurettes £11.70 (plus postage)
So, which one do we buy?
http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7166618_dvd-ring-packaging_.html (http://www.ehow.co.uk/facts_7166618_dvd-ring-packaging_.html)
I think I am gonna go for the US dvd if it works in the Uk.
Methinks the UK 2D/3D bluray for myself and for my dad, as well as dvd's for my siblings and mother so none of them have to pirate the fecking thing..
I'll wait - I'm going to see it in the cinema again on Friday so I'm in no deaperate hurry to get a copy. I'll probably wait to see if any territories get a special edition or steelbook (Germany is a possibility), and maybe pick up the standard UK Blu ray to tide me over when it drops to under a tenner after a few weeks.
The Aussie edition looks nice but I ain't paying all that extra for what is basically just a cardboard sleeve.
You know certain individuals will buy them all anyway..
This is why our beloved film didn't do the numbers, some of you are not putting the effort in. DO YOU NOT WANT A SEQUEL ;)
I am going to buy the Blu-Ray 3D/2D at HMV on the day it out and DVD too! Dammit get it, drokkers!
Quote from: Michaelvk on 01 January, 2013, 04:05:11 PM
You know certain individuals will buy them all anyway..
I'll certainly be getting as many as possible. Being a proud film buff and head of the college film society I pride myself on hunting down foreign editions of some of my fave films. I've lost count of how many copys of the original Wicker Man I own. :lol:
Blu ray is no gonae dae to well whay whan hauf a glesga :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Pete Wells KTT on 01 January, 2013, 10:56:22 AM
USA Blu-Ray - 3D Film and 8 featurettes, plus digital download (will this work in the UK?) plus UV (will this work in the UK?) £13.50 + p&p
USA DVD plus digital download (will this work in the UK?) - film plus 8 featurettes £11.70 (plus postage)
Ultraviolet is region-based iirc so it would cause problems. I'm not sure with the digital copy though, so maybe someone else can clarify on that. Thing to keep in mind is that they're all DRM-based essentially so there'll be a lot of weird things in there. Restrictions on digital copies depend on the distributor's policies, so I'm not sure what Lionsgate's policy is with them.
Did Lionsgate Send Dredd To Die? http://www.ign.com/blogs/kamicasey/2012/12/30/did-lionsgate-send-dredd-to-die
To be fair, Looper came out today, a week after Christmas. And that's certainly a title that's not being shoveled out to die. I think post-holiday gift cash might play into whatever plan companies have to release movies after the holiday shopping season.
I agree. I don't know why, but IGN seem to always give Dredd quite a bit of support, and it's a big site too, with alot of traffic. Anything they do to promote the film and it's DVD/BluRay release is a good thing!
Yes!! there are 2000ad fans everywhere .... even at IGN
Here is the lowdown on international DVD and Blu-ray compatibility with UK players:
For all intents and purposes, all DVDs are region locked.
The US DVD (region 1) and the Australian DVD (region 4) release of "Dredd" (or indeed anything else) will not work in your UK region 2 DVD player.
(At least not out of the box. Depending on the brand, your DVD player might easily be made region free.)
By contrast, the vast majority of Blu-ray releases discs wordwide are regionfree. However, any distributor has the option of enforcing region locking, and LGF, sadly, are one of the exceedingly few that consistently does enforce region locking. This means that unless LGF suddenly changes their policy, the US Blu-ray release of "Dredd" will be locked to region A and thus NOT work in your UK region B Blu-ray player. However, Australia is, like the UK, Mainland Europe and Africa, region B land. Even if the Australian distributor enforces region locking, the disc will work on a UK player.
So to sum it up:
Forget the US Blu-ray.
Also forget the US and Australian DVD (unless your DVD player is hackable).
Australian Blu-ray is however safe to buy.
Play any bluray/DVD on your computer.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 January, 2013, 10:03:56 AM
Play any bluray/DVD on your computer.
Unless you want to watch it in 3D, in which case you may need to investigate whether it is worth investing in the nVidia 3D Vision system and a monitor that supports it.
Also, you still have to hack said computer to be permanetly region free.
Out of the box, you can only switch between region codes a single digit amount of times before the computer becomes locked to that region.
Quote from: norse_sage on 02 January, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
Also, you still have to hack said computer to be permanetly region free.
Out of the box, you can only switch between region codes a single digit amount of times before the computer becomes locked to that region.
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It's not really a hardware or drive hack in the old-sense though. Just don't use the DVD/BLURAY player-software provided by the OS that automatically opens when you insert a disc abut download one of the many third party players available on the web that have little problem playing any vid file thrown at them.
Worth noting that DREDD on Blu Ray is currently sitting at No.7 in Amazon's Top 100 of Film & TV items.
I thought Playstation 3's were region free, and as such can play anything?
QuoteI thought Playstation 3's were region free, and as such can play anything?
Nope.
They can handle most video formats, but are region locked regarding Blu Rays and DVDs afaik, at least without chipping/hacking.
That's good about the amazon chart. That must be just pre-orders right? So it should continue to climb too!
Yep and when you look at whats above it, its doing really well.
it's number 3 best seller in blu-ray and in 'Action and Adventure' and number 1 best seller in Blu-ray 3D
and Science Fiction & Fantasy
Number 8 on amazon.com blu-ray chart, 39 overall, but take into account that tv shows individual episodes are counted.
Cool!
Yep that's pretty cool, especially as there's only a handful of movies above it - The Dark Knight Rises, Looper, LotR, Skyfall and Rise of the Guardians - Looper aside all far more high-profile movies than Dredd, and out of them Skyfall is the only other entry based purely on pre-orders. Dredd is punching above it's weight there I think!
Amazon's price drop (on both sides of the Atlantic) seems to be doing the trick for now - but I'd like to think DREDD is going to be a consistent strong seller on home formats and on demand for a good few years to come.
We may never get a sequel, but at least there's an indication that it's starting to find it's real audience now, which is great news for the filmmakers.
Up to number 6 now in "Film and tv"! :thumbsup:
It's just CF ordering all his various editions. :D
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 02 January, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
It's just CF ordering all his various editions. :D
Is it shamefully for me to admit I ordered 2 more today? The aussie and US disks. That's four now.
I guess I have to get around to ordering a copy as well. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be contributing as much as the rest of you, one blu-ray box is enough for me.
I've got a suspicion that a sequel will be mostly funded by the population of this here forum.
Quote from: MercZ on 02 January, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
I guess I have to get around to ordering a copy as well. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be contributing as much as the rest of you, one blu-ray box is enough for me.
I'm a bit of a film freak who has one good source of income and no offspring to feed. Life's easy for me peeps!
Happy to see Dredd 3D got great reviews on Play.com,
http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/37743658/Dredd-3D/ProductReviews.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/37743658/Dredd-3D/ProductReviews.html)
Quote from: Goaty on 03 January, 2013, 09:41:21 AM
Happy to see Dredd 3D got great reviews on Play.com,
http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/37743658/Dredd-3D/ProductReviews.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/37743658/Dredd-3D/ProductReviews.html)
One of those reviews has used the perfect term. Sleeper Hit. With very little luck needed it would seem, this may well be the case. :D
As on way to Edinburgh for Great Winter Run tomorrow, I got Empire to reading on train and notice this;
(http://i.imgur.com/jugXA.jpg)
I loved DREDD and cannot wait until it is out.
Its a dreamy question, but does anyone know the kind of budget those movies on The Horror Channel / Movies For Men etc have ?
I'd happily watch a Dredd movie with that kind of budget, and if anyones seen the SFX on CBBC Wizards Vs Aliens I am pretty sure Millenium could do an awesome job here in the Uk.
If anyone has an idea on those sort of budgets, I'd love to know ?
Dredd has no charm?
Tell that to the people at the screening last night who were laughing and cheering and basically anything he said.
Quote from: Teivion on 05 January, 2013, 01:09:47 PM
Its a dreamy question, but does anyone know the kind of budget those movies on The Horror Channel / Movies For Men etc have ?
I'd happily watch a Dredd movie with that kind of budget, and if anyones seen the SFX on CBBC Wizards Vs Aliens I am pretty sure Millenium could do an awesome job here in the Uk.
If anyone has an idea on those sort of budgets, I'd love to know ?
Z- Budget movies. Meaning you could not even buy a Boot's meal deal with the amount of money they spent on it.
I'd rather have no movie at all than some low budget dross.
Quote from: radiator on 05 January, 2013, 01:24:32 PM
Dredd has no charm?
He didn't bring flowers to Anderson's assessment.
Quote from: radiator on 05 January, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
I'd rather have no movie at all than some low budget dross.
I guess I'm thinking more in the line of Spooks, Lewis, The Killing - hour long or feature length - that sort of thing really...
Quote from: Teivion on 05 January, 2013, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 January, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
I'd rather have no movie at all than some low budget dross.
I guess I'm thinking more in the line of Spooks, Lewis, The Killing - hour long or feature length - that sort of thing really...
All well and good, but when you try and do sci fi on that kind of money...
Quote from: radiator on 05 January, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Teivion on 05 January, 2013, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 January, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
I'd rather have no movie at all than some low budget dross.
I guess I'm thinking more in the line of Spooks, Lewis, The Killing - hour long or feature length - that sort of thing really...
All well and good, but when you try and do sci fi on that kind of money...
...You get the Wing Commander movie. Oh dear.
You're basing that comparison on what was achievable at a VFX level 14 years ago.
A better comparision would be the Blood and Chrome series. I've not watched it to comment on the quality, but it's very green screen heavy.
Can't seem to find any concrete figures on budget, apart from one of $2m, but I'm not sure if that is just the pilot as it seems to have had a convoluted production.
I think you're talking around a £1m an episode for something like Spooks, seems to be the figure bandied about.
As has been said, sci-fi is a different beast, but I see a lot of digital work on non-sci-fi shows, like Ugly Betty where they've done a lot of background replacement.
Dredd now occupies no.3 (Blu Ray) and no.5 (DVD) of Amazon's Film & TV top ten!
The Empire podcast review of the year episode gives Dredd a few nice shout outs.
Holy shit it's no.2 on amazon.com blu-ray!
Blu-ray.com,
(http://imageshack.us/a/img805/9177/top10p.png)
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 05 January, 2013, 05:01:37 PM
The Empire podcast review of the year episode gives Dredd a few nice shout outs.
I've been listening to a lot of 'best of the year' type podcasts and Dredd is coming up again and again.
On the Modern Media Myth podcast - which tends to focus on discussions of superhero movies - many of the panelists 'biggest disappointment' of the year was not 'film x was shit', but that Dredd did so badly at the box office. Their actual Dredd roundtable episode is great and well worth a listen too.
Glowing 4 star review in the latest SFX magazine's rated section.
And equally glowing review of 2000ad's recent Trifecta series in its comic section.
OH JOY OF JOYS!!!
My wonderful Wife is treating me to a brand new 3D tv, which I'll get in time for the Blu Ray release!! :)
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 January, 2013, 12:17:33 PM
OH JOY OF JOYS!!!
My wonderful Wife is treating me to a brand new 3D tv, which I'll get in time for the Blu Ray release!! :)
Sweet! As well as Dredd, get Brave, Hugo, and A Turtle's Tale. They really show off what a 3D telly can do, and are damned entertaining too!
I'd rather wipe my bum with sand paper than watch A Turtle Tale again! Prop's to Brave and Hugo though!
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 06 January, 2013, 04:07:02 PM
I'd rather wipe my bum with sand paper than watch A Turtle Tale again! Prop's to Brave and Hugo though!
A Turtle's Head, perhaps? :D
Will investigate the other two!
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 January, 2013, 04:51:19 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 06 January, 2013, 04:07:02 PM
I'd rather wipe my bum with sand paper than watch A Turtle Tale again! Prop's to Brave and Hugo though!
A Turtle's Head, perhaps? :D
Will investigate the other two!
DO NOT GET Shark Night 3D or Underworld Awakening. Dreadful films and appalling 3D on both.
Re Turtles Tale, if you can pick it up for under a tenner, do so - it's worth it to show off some of the best 3D I've ever seen, even if you do find the story tawdry and dull.
Seriously, 3D is my big thing. I'm a huge advocate of it, and my place is full of 3D niknaks stretching back 30 years. Trust me on this - A Turtles Tale is a massive showcase for what the medium is capable of.
I'm hoping Dredd 3D will be as well. I'm organising a Dredd night with mates of mine who haven't seen the film yet. I'm praying the 3D is as good, if not better, than it was in the cinema. So far I have been seriously impressed with this 3D TV I got - very little ghosting or double images, a lovely crisp picture, and amazing depth for a passive system. It should be perfect for looking down a 200 storey drop!!! :D
I can't effing wait!
Only one film which I thought was so beautiful in 3D before Dredd, was Avatar... too bad there no Avatar 3D Blu-Ray yet!
AND I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR DREDD 3D!
Quote from: Goaty on 06 January, 2013, 05:36:48 PM
Only one film which I thought was so beautiful in 3D before Dredd, was Avatar... too bad there no Avatar 3D Blu-Ray yet!
AND I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR DREDD 3D!
There is an Avatar 3D Blu-ray. It came with my Blu-ray player as a special offer - had to send off for it, so waiting eagerly to see how good the 3D is on it. I've seen it retail at £20, so it's definitely on the shelves.
Here you go:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B003R0KOUQ
Yeah, its been out a while hasnt it. Anyway the usual places Play.com etc have it in stock.
I believe Avatar 3D was exclusively bundled with a certain manufacturer's BD players for a time. It's out now to buy everywhere again though.
Dredd is No. 1 Blu-Ray on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/2958935011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_mov_1_2
That is nuts! I wonder how many sales it's got so far.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 January, 2013, 11:36:09 PM
That is nuts! I wonder how many sales it's got so far.
Enough to say that Americans get Dredd.
I think a lot of people must be buying it without having seen it yet though, considering the poor box office. The reviews and positive buzz must have finally sunk in.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 06 January, 2013, 11:42:59 PM
I think a lot of people must be buying it without having seen it yet though, considering the poor box office. The reviews and positive buzz must have finally sunk in.
Or after downloading it.
Excellent news!!!
Ironically, Avatar 3D is 5th on the chart.
As I was browsing reviews Dredd was usurped by Tim Burton.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 January, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
Dredd is No. 1 Blu-Ray on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/2958935011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_mov_1_2
Holy shit above avatar skyfall and looper thats great news
Quote from: Stan on 07 January, 2013, 12:05:15 AM
As I was browsing reviews Dredd was usurped by Tim Burton.
Cos it just became
Deal of the week on Amazon's front-page.
It was doing pretty well before so deal of the week should give it an even bigger boost.
He's talking about the other film.
Yeah, I don't see 'deal of the week' but it showing up on the 'other people are viewing' thing.
Dredd's also #2 and #1 on the Uk Bu-ray and Blu-ray 3D lists...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bestsellers-Film-TV/zgbs/dvd/ref=zg_bs_unv_d_h__1_535556031_1
Quote from: Stan on 07 January, 2013, 01:04:29 AM
Yeah, I don't see 'deal of the week' but it showing up on the 'other people are viewing' thing.
Deal of the Week is on Amazon's front-page.
Any more good looking discs out there for me to buy. At the moment I have the Oz one with the Judged gang logo, the French steelbox effort and of course our beautiful vanilla'ish disc.
http://www.blu-ray.com/search/?quicksearch=1&quicksearch_country=all&quicksearch_keyword=Dredd§ion=bluraymovies
I'm still baffled as to why the UK distributor thought the poster artwork would be improved by letting the work experience kid have a go on it in photoshop - it looks horrendous, and I really hope they have just used the original art for the final product. I was talking to a friend the other night who is importing the US disc purely because of how ugly the UK artwork is.
Great reviews of Dredd on Amazon, (but sadly it's include You-Know-Who...)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B008OGHUFK/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B008OGHUFK/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1)
Is it the 8th yet?
Dredd on facebook post this;
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2013/01/03/dredd-evolves-in-this-exclusive-blu-ray-featurette/ (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2013/01/03/dredd-evolves-in-this-exclusive-blu-ray-featurette/)
Bloody MTV, only in US!
Give it half an hour and it'll be on YouTube!
Dat's covered.
Over on the American Amazon, Dredd Blu-Ray is listed as the #1 Best Seller in Sci-Fi. When it comes up in search results it has a little ribbon that says so. That was nice to see.
Perhaps we should each take 5 mins to post our thoughts on the film in the Amazon customer comments? Surely our reviews and ratings will keep it high in the best seller list? I've done my bit. ;)
Mine's there too.
"Passing judgement, Dredd makes the grade."
I've noticed a few Blu-Ray reviews going up.
I don't know if this review has been posted already. In a nutshell, nice camera work excellent audio, but otherwise an empty B movie full of gratuitous violence:
http://blogcritics.org/video/article/blu-ray-3d-review-dredd/
This reviewer loved the film and waxes lyrical about the 3D effects on his new 3D TV:
http://www.horror-movies.ca/2012/12/dredd-3d-blu-ray-review/
Another inevitable comparison to The Raid:
http://www.starpulse.com/news/Jason_Coleman/2013/01/07/bluray_review_dredd
A very effusive review. Anderson proves immensely popular, and particular attention is paid to the 3D and soundtrack:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/8071/dredd_3d.html
This guy really praises the sound, but goes on to say its everything he could want in a non-stop action film:
http://gcvgn.com/2013/01/02/dredd-3d-review-blu-ray/
A good review, noting faithfulness to the source material:
http://m.mtv.com/geek/article.rbml?id=2013/01/08/dredd-3-d-blu-ray-review/&weburl=http%3A%2F%2Fgeek-news.mtv.com%2F2013%2F01%2F08%2Fdredd-3-d-blu-ray-review%2F&alt=http%3A%2F%2Fm.mtv.com%2Fgeek%2Fblog.rbml&cid=300
One thing they all seem to have in common is bemoaning a lack of extras. Bah!
We're No. 1 blu-ray on Amazon (again),
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Movies-TV-Blu-ray/zgbs/movies-tv/2958935011/ref=zg_bs_nav_mov_1_mov
Great sign. I would love for this to become a real and genuine cult movie. Perhaps one day, Urban will be able to pull on the helmet again.
Suck on that blue space hippies!
Favorable reviews on the home release:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dredd-3D-Blu-ray/56292/#Review
http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/dredd3dbluray.php
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/58863/dredd/
Pre-ordered the bluray 3d from amazon ages ago despite the fact I don't have a blu-ray player or a 3d tv and likely won't get either anytime soon. I am a fan, hear me roar!
... if you get wind of a decent and cheap blu-ray player, please share the info here.
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 09 January, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
... if you get wind of a decent and cheap blu-ray player, please share the info here.
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Quote from: Goaty on 09 January, 2013, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: DeFuzzed on 09 January, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
... if you get wind of a decent and cheap blu-ray player, please share the info here.
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/cd.jpg)
Magic.
Blu-ray players are getting down below $50 these days.
I'm still waiting for the next gimmick before I upgrade from DVD.
Quote from: Stan on 09 January, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
I'm still waiting for the next gimmick before I upgrade from DVD.
(http://randythetechprofessor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vhs-tape.jpg)
Quote from: Stan on 09 January, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
I'm still waiting for the next gimmick before I upgrade from DVD.
That will be the discs for those TV's on show at Vegas this week, which are 4 x sharper than HD :o
Waste of time for the average UK home...
Even BR/HD is a bit pointless below a 40" TV.
Physical media is going to be increasingly marginalised, I'll be surprised if a 4K Home Video market takes off, at best it will be a niche (expensive) product like Laserdisc was.
There is one company showing a 90" TV off as well. I can see Caz going for that, as it would save on wallpaper (that's for me really).
Not a lot of point to HD when the TV content is so low
There's no way I'm getting a new TV or player just for one movie - I take it there's a bog standard 2D DVD as well?
and the idea of buying the US import because the cover art is slightly better strikes me as crazy talk - It's like refusing to go on a date with a hot girl because you don't like the car she rolled up in.
I agree, I wouldn't buy the US version. That's why I bought the French one and the Oz one. I alone will kickstart the world economy :lol:
Quote from: Dandontdare on 09 January, 2013, 05:47:44 PM
There's no way I'm getting a new TV or player just for one movie - I take it there's a bog standard 2D DVD as well?
and the idea of buying the US import because the cover art is slightly better strikes me as crazy talk - It's like refusing to go on a date with a hot girl because you don't like the car she rolled up in.
Yeah there's a standard 2D DVD as well.
I bought the US one, purely because the sound is slightly better.
The Blu Ray / 3D combo is Amazon's bestselling DVD at the moment. A good sign, or just fans pre-ordering?
No it isn't. It's number 2. Skyfall is number 1.
Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 09 January, 2013, 08:08:28 PM
The Blu Ray / 3D combo is Amazon's bestselling DVD at the moment. A good sign, or just fans pre-ordering?
It's the best selling blu-ray on amazon.com all right; it was in the top 10 during pre-orders but jumped to number one a day or two after it was available for shipping.
Is there any realistic chance of a potential sequel if the DVD/BluRay sales were through the roof?
Quote from: strontium71 on 09 January, 2013, 08:43:06 PM
Is there any realistic chance of a potential sequel if the DVD/BluRay sales were through the roof?
I keep reading that it was Taken's DVD sales that green-lighted the sequel after unimpressive cinema box office.
Mind you, they keep saying the same thing about Firefly/Serenity, and I'm still waiting for that sequel... :-(
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: radiator on 09 January, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
No it isn't. It's number 2. Skyfall is number 1.
Bah. "Updated hourly."
Quote from: strontium71 on 09 January, 2013, 08:43:06 PM
Is there any realistic chance of a potential sequel if the DVD/BluRay sales were through the roof?
Through the roof would need to be several million copies. I just want it to break-even.
Quote from: Goaty on 09 January, 2013, 05:14:36 PM
Quote from: Stan on 09 January, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
I'm still waiting for the next gimmick before I upgrade from DVD.
http://randythetechprofessor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vhs-tape.jpg
Oooo, a whole ten minutes running time. Something tells me I won't be watching The Hobbit in this format.
QuoteMind you, they keep saying the same thing about Firefly/Serenity, and I'm still waiting for that sequel... :-(
As I understand it, thanks to good DVD sales a Serenity 2 would be feasible now.... were it not for the fact that everyone involved is now busy with other projects.
Also worth noting that DVD sales and overall revenue from the home video market will only continue to fall in the coming years.
I think I've made my peace with the fact that there's never going to be a Dredd 2. :'(
It would be nice though, for the filmmakers to get the credit they deserve, and for the film to eventually make a tidy profit.
I knew you are the fan of Stallone's Judge Dredd, Radiator!
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 January, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
I keep reading that it was Taken's DVD sales that green-lighted the sequel after unimpressive cinema box office.
Or rather its US box-office gross of $145 million and total worldwide gross of $223,882,072. It only cost $25 million to make.
Cha-Ching.Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 January, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
Mind you, they keep saying the same thing about Firefly/Serenity, and I'm still waiting for that sequel... :-(
Serenity initially only made about $10 million in USDVD sales, good, but not so hot when compared to aother box-office dud,
the Punisher, which earned $60 million in DVD and pushed it into sloppy-seconds.
Serenity presumably managed to break-even with steady sales over the years but it was never enough of a draw for sequelitis, much to the regret of many (or not).
If I recall correctly they killed half the cast anyway.
Yeah, it was pretty evident from the plot that Serenity was the final 'hurrah' and nobody expected to get a sequel. Still, I love it! (and Firefly).
Quote from: Stan on 09 January, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
If I recall correctly they killed half the cast anyway.
Three.
Plus it probably didn't help that fans were suggesting people watch the series first..while Serenity was still in cinemas.
Mind you, Joss Whedon's had a pretty quiet year -- he could probably do with a hit.
Cheers
Jim
He has a new project - Obscurity.
I have still got high hopes a sequel will happen. They must be doing quite well on the home video front to top the charts both on UK and US Amazon, and that was before it was out, plus it's got the rest of the world. Plus now with a much bigger fan base and the shadow of 95' eradicated, you can pretty much guarantee that a sequel would open better then this one.
I wouldn't hold your breath - DVD sales have saved many series that 'underperformed' (ie broke even or only made a small profit) theatrically, but its really rare for a film that tanked as badly as Dredd did to get a sequel under any circumstances. It really did absolutely appallingly at the box office no matter how you look at it - and must have made a huge loss for its distributors.
The sequel to Kick-Ass seemed very touch and go (and was only given the go-ahead two years later thanks to dvd sales) as the first one 'underperformed' - and it made three times what Dredd did at the cinema.
Dredd gets released in Hungarian theatres today, or yesterday.
Gues what's the No. 1 film download on iTunes:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/movies/
They should just release the damn thing in cinemas again! Think the word of mouth has finally sunk in and it'd probably do quite well now.
There's still Japan if you can afford the airfare. That, coupled with DVD sales, will ensure a sequel.
Quote from: Stan on 10 January, 2013, 01:21:26 AM
There's still Japan if you can afford the airfare. That, coupled with DVD sales, will ensure a sequel.
I really don't see it, man. $50m box office in the US would have been enough for it to scrape a sequel. It took a quarter of that.
The fact that it seems to be doing pretty well on DVD is mainly great news because the people who worked so hard on the film deserve to have their work seen by a wider audience. As much as I'd love it to be the case, I really don't think it'll do enough to make a sequel viable.
It wasn't that bad was it?
I mean it was a low budget, 18/Hard R, based on an obscure British comic book character, with a previous film outing that was shit, released in September the worst month for movies, and the publicity was handled by Lionsgate (but they're the ones who need to make the money right? So they probably don't think it was their fault). They must have taken that into account with their Box Office expectations.
The film kicked ass, people love it, and now as more people see it's topping charts left right and centre, that has to count for something.
The box-office was bad. It should've broken-even with worldwide gross.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 January, 2013, 01:47:18 AM
It wasn't that bad was it?
No. It was worse. Mr Soap has pointed out that other films that 'underperformed' but were felt to have redeemed themselves on DVD at the
very least had a stab at recouping their production budgets, boxofficemojo (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=UK&id=dredd.htm) has Dredd at $31M worldwide -- I hadn't fully appreciated how awful the box office was.
No one would be happier than me to see a sequel, but it is
not going to happen, and I suspect the likelihood of anyone attempting to revive the franchise in the next twenty-five years is less than zero.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2013, 01:14:47 AM
They should just release the damn thing in cinemas again! Think the word of mouth has finally sunk in and it'd probably do quite well now.
That's not without precedent is it. They should.
Whilst a good idea it's probably too late now it's out on DVD/BR. Who would want to go and see it at the cinema for £8+ per ticket when you can just buy a hardcopy? (I'm talking about Joe Public here obviously, I'd go see it for a 6th time!)
Damn.
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 10 January, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
Whilst a good idea it's probably too late now it's out on DVD/BR. Who would want to go and see it at the cinema for £8+ per ticket when you can just buy a hardcopy? (I'm talking about Joe Public here obviously, I'd go see it for a 6th time!)
Iron Sky was in the cinema the same time the DVD / BluRay was out. Not sure many people went to see it mind
It's funny how different the figures are, though. What was Dredd's budget? $45 million? $50 million? $72 million? It seems a lot of stuff online is guesswork these days, and plenty of sites are just collating information by well-meaning people who don't research. That said, the Dredd gross isn't above $40 million anywhere, and so it really has no chance of a sequel. Still, it'd be great if it cleaned up on shiny disc and rental anyway, so the film eventually breaks even, whatever figure's needed to do that.
In the meantime, we can sit and watch as 2013 unleashes yet more sanitised action movies, where people fall like flies but because there's no gore or sense of realism, THAT'S OK, ISN'T IT?
Thought it was always $45m but that included marketing not just the production of the film itself.
I'd just be happy if the makers get their money back, I've no idea whether that's likely or not.
I've heard between $35m and $72m. I doubt even the makers know the exact figure. My guess is £35m/$50m.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 January, 2013, 01:39:57 PM
It's funny how different the figures are, though. What was Dredd's budget? $45 million? $50 million? $72 million?
I asked Alex Garland that specific question at the London screening and he explicitly stated the actual budget to make the film was always
$35 million - which was the initial figure reported in some early trade articles and interviews with producers.
The reported figures of $45-50 million was part of a marketing strategy to make the film seem a little more expensive. It's a common tactic used by studios when it is either preferable to make a film seem bigger, or the opposite, when the studio reports a lower budget than the actual to make it look like they spent less than they did if the film looks like it's going to flop.
The marketing budget goes from anywhere between $25-40 million depending on who's reporting.
That's very illuminating.
With all due respect, I did and still do think Dredd, wonderful film though it is - perhaps looks a little rough and ready in certain aspects even for a relatively 'low' budget of $50m, compared to certain other films. I guess that explains why.
If that is indeed the case, it makes Dredd's performance seem slightly less catastrophic - it made nearly its production budget back rather than making a huge loss.
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
If that is indeed the case, it makes Dredd's performance seem slightly less catastrophic - it made nearly its production budget back rather than making a huge loss.
Unfortunately it would need to make twice its budget to break-even since theatres/cinema-chains can take up to half the price made on box-office ticket-sales, the studio/investors get the rest. I've no doubt it will eventually make its money but it would need to make over 3 times its budget to even re-open the sequel conversation.
The positive aspect is that Judge Dredd has a far, far bigger audience now than it did beforehand so who knows, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
The positive aspect is that Judge Dredd has a far, far bigger audience now than it did beforehand so who knows, but I wouldn't bet on it.
It does seem that it's been an excellent marketing tool for Judge Dredd in general. Even if it doesn't get a sequel I bet it's shifted a shit loads of funny books
Total conjecture - just an inkling - but I'd imagine that if there was still the slightest glimmer of a hope for a sequel they wouldn't currently be auctioning off all of the existing Dredd costumes and props...
I thought I read somewhere that the makers of the film already made their money back with the distribution deals?
Quote from: James Stacey on 10 January, 2013, 03:10:21 PM
It does seem that it's been an excellent marketing tool for Judge Dredd in general. Even if it doesn't get a sequel I bet it's shifted a shit loads of funny books
It has, thanks.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 January, 2013, 03:16:09 PM
I thought I read somewhere that the makers of the film already made their money back with the distribution deals?
Indeed. Like I keep saying, it's distributors who need convincing. I predict we'll see a Fox or Universal logo in front of Judge Dredd: Origins Cursed Earth Extravaganza.
QuoteIndeed. Like I keep saying, it's distributors who need convincing.
Erm, if they invested money and lost money on a project, or just about broke even (which is probably what happened with Dredd), why on Earth would they want to do it again? No distributor desire for a sequel = no sequel.
QuoteI predict we'll see a Fox logo...
Doubt it. Fox passed on Dredd 1.
QuoteIt does seem that it's been an excellent marketing tool for Judge Dredd in general. Even if it doesn't get a sequel I bet it's shifted a shit loads of funny books
As far as I'm concerned, the movie has almost completely rehabilitated Dredd's public image. Dredd is cool and relevant again, and awareness and visibility of him is higher than it's been in a looooong time. When I mention the character, I no longer have to first tiptoe around the subject of the Stallone debacle.
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2013, 03:11:23 PM
Total conjecture - just an inkling - but I'd imagine that if there was still the slightest glimmer of a hope for a sequel they wouldn't currently be auctioning off all of the existing Dredd costumes and props...
It is to recoup money and definitely not the best sign but they aren't acutioning
all of them.
Quote from: Stan on 10 January, 2013, 03:26:43 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 January, 2013, 03:16:09 PM
I thought I read somewhere that the makers of the film already made their money back with the distribution deals?
Indeed. Like I keep saying, it's distributors who need convincing. I predict we'll see a Fox or Universal logo in front of Judge Dredd: Origins Cursed Earth Extravaganza.
The
investors backstopped the marketing cost for the US as well which means that while Lionsgate spent money on the prequel comic and prints etc. IMGlobal lost out, big time.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2013, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2013, 03:11:23 PM
Total conjecture - just an inkling - but I'd imagine that if there was still the slightest glimmer of a hope for a sequel they wouldn't currently be auctioning off all of the existing Dredd costumes and props...
It is to recoup money and definitely not the best sign but they aren't acutioning all of them.
I do NOT believe the hero DREDD outfit is for sale...just the stunt....But I could be wrong...we will have to wait and see..
I'd imagine storage costs outweigh the cost of remaking them. Pretty sure most films shift props if they can.
Quote from: radiator on 10 January, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
QuoteIndeed. Like I keep saying, it's distributors who need convincing.
Erm, if they invested money and lost money on a project, or just about broke even (which is probably what happened with Dredd), why on Earth would they want to do it again? No distributor desire for a sequel = no sequel.
That's kinda my point (although Joe just sabotaged my theory a little). If IMGlobal did okay and the DVDs sell like hotcakes a big distributor might see Dredd 2 as a worthwhile risk to take. Though I'm the eternal optimist in this regard.
I wasn't aware of the Fox thing either.
Quote from: nicklambo on 10 January, 2013, 04:13:26 PM
I do NOT believe the hero DREDD outfit is for sale...just the stunt....
That's correct, no Lawgivers either and just two Lawmasters and a shell. Whether that's are just down to cast & crew taking them, or DNA keeping them, I don't know.
Quote from: Stan on 10 January, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
That's kinda my point (although Joe just sabotaged my theory a little). If IMGlobal did okay and the DVDs sell like hotcakes a big distributor might see Dredd 2 as a worthwhile risk to take. Though I'm the eternal optimist in this regard.
I wasn't aware of the Fox thing either.
DNA had a previous deal with FOX searchlight, it expired, and they didn't continue it with Dredd.
As for another distributor picking up Dredd, that's far more complex as it's not just one distributor but many world-wide. It would take proving potential earning to a Sony type which would mean actual numbers on paper.
Quote from: Goaty on 10 January, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Never see the day Joe Soap said that!
Never lose the element of surprise.
Quote from: Molch-R on 10 January, 2013, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 10 January, 2013, 03:10:21 PM
It does seem that it's been an excellent marketing tool for Judge Dredd in general. Even if it doesn't get a sequel I bet it's shifted a shit loads of funny books
It has, thanks.
Have you seen increased subscriptions and Clickwheel downloads as a result?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 January, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
Quote from: Stan on 10 January, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
That's kinda my point (although Joe just sabotaged my theory a little). If IMGlobal did okay and the DVDs sell like hotcakes a big distributor might see Dredd 2 as a worthwhile risk to take. Though I'm the eternal optimist in this regard.
I wasn't aware of the Fox thing either.
DNA had a previous deal with FOX searchlight, it expired, and they didn't continue it with Dredd.
As for another distributor picking up Dredd, that's far more complex as it's not just one distributor but many world-wide. It would take proving potential earning to a Sony type which would mean actual numbers on paper.
That's the kind of thing I was hoping for. Though I wonder if it would risk the artistic integrity of the product being compromised. That could be worse than having no sequel at all.
18 pages and no-one got Blu-Ray yet? :lol:
Quote from: Goaty on 10 January, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
18 pages and no-one got Blu-Ray yet? :lol:
I got it today.
Then post blu-ray review, Mr Soap. :)
I ripped open an Amazon package this evening that in my haste didn't realise was addressed to the missus. She wasn't best pleased. :D
I've decided to win one instead since I don't have a Blu-ray player anyway..
http://whatculture.com/comps/win-dredd-on-blu-ray-we-have-3-copies-to-give-away.php
Are there any websites that do something similar to box office mojo but for blu-ray/dvd? It's pretty incredible reading people posting on the facebook wall saying it's selling out in best buy and wallmart, combined with the chart topping of itunes and amazon it's got to be absolutely killing it.
Mrs G and I were watching our Apple TV earlier, and I checked the movies charts; sure enough, Dredd's now at #1, above Looper (which, to be fair, was released last week). Three available reviews on the Apple TV itself are all positive, one from a clear fan, one from someone who said it was better than The Avengers, and one who said it was "better than the original". So: a good spread. Also: a very different trailer. No music beyond the in-film stuff and barely any reference to the drugs. It works really nicely, and is only a minute long.
Just looked at Dredd again on Amazon, the reviews for it have doubled since I last checked and it still holds no.1 spot and 4.4 stars. Sweet!
Dammit, where's the 'like' button for the previous two posts?!?
If dredd is doing as well as it looks like, can't they just do a sequel with a limited release like a lot of smaller independent films, and then if it does well gradually open up wider? Surely they could convince a distributor to do that.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 January, 2013, 11:25:57 PM
Are there any websites that do something similar to box office mojo but for blu-ray/dvd?
There is but it takes so long to collate this info it'll be a month or longer before you see Dredd sales and they're only for North America.
http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/thisweek.php
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 January, 2013, 11:31:23 PM
Mrs G and I were watching our Apple TV earlier, and I checked the movies charts; sure enough, Dredd's now at #1, above Looper (which, to be fair, was released last week). Three available reviews on the Apple TV itself are all positive, one from a clear fan, one from someone who said it was better than The Avengers, and one who said it was "better than the original". So: a good spread. Also: a very different trailer. No music beyond the in-film stuff and barely any reference to the drugs. It works really nicely, and is only a minute long.
There are 323 ratings/reviews on the itunes store- U.S. of course. 4 stars.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 January, 2013, 11:43:22 PM
If dredd is doing as well as it looks like, can't they just do a sequel with a limited release like a lot of smaller independent films, and then if it does well gradually open up wider? Surely they could convince a distributor to do that.
Who's going to pay for it?
DNA?
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 10 January, 2013, 11:51:27 PM
DNA?
The didn't pay for Dredd, IMGlobal did and they haven't made their money back.
Is there any idea what the marketing costs for IMGlobal were?
Quote from: Stan on 11 January, 2013, 12:07:15 AM
Is there any idea what the marketing costs for IMGlobal were?
I've read $25 million and $40 million so who knows what's reliable.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 January, 2013, 12:11:38 AM
Quote from: Stan on 11 January, 2013, 12:07:15 AM
Is there any idea what the marketing costs for IMGlobal were?
I've read $25 million and $40 million so who knows what's reliable.
I would've thought they'd be close to breaking even on $25m. At least in the longer term. Though I'm not really sure what kind of money home video rakes in. It seems a little silly that marketing would cost more than the film itself.
Good God, people! There is NOT going to be a sequel.
They made a big budget, Hollywood action movie based on the character, and it died at the box office and was derided by fans for being unfaithful to the source material. (Note that I don't believe that this was the issue with the film; I believe that the main problem with the film was that it was just badly written.)
So... they made a low(er) budget film that was faithful to the source material, was embraced by many fans, got fantastic word of mouth and amazingly good press and tanked even more badly at the box office than the first one.
There is no message that a producer or distributor will take away from this other than: the Dredd brand has no mass market appeal. There is no way to sell this property in Hollywood now, beyond a DVD/BD miracle unprecedented in the history of home entertainment sales.
Typing those words depresses the crap out of me but -- guys -- you need to accept this. You got a great movie, and some real public acceptance of your favourite comic character in the sense that we all understand him, but they'll be making snowmen in Hell before we see another Dredd movie.
Jim
Sounds like a lot of shops underestimated demand, hearing of it selling out in a lot of stores stateside.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 11 January, 2013, 12:27:56 AM
beyond a DVD/BD miracle unprecedented in the history of home entertainment sales.
So there is still a chance.
Don't be like that, Jim - if the home numbers are good, Uwe Boll might want to shoot a 3 million dollar sequel in Lithuania starring, oh, I dunno, Kevin Sorbo maybe. In The Name Of The King was nearly not shite.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 11 January, 2013, 12:38:19 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 11 January, 2013, 12:27:56 AM
beyond a DVD/BD miracle unprecedented in the history of home entertainment sales.
So there is still a chance.
:fistbump:
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 11 January, 2013, 12:38:33 AM
Don't be like that, Jim - if the home numbers are good, Uwe Boll might want to shoot a 3 million dollar sequel in Lithuania starring, oh, I dunno, Kevin Sorbo maybe. In The Name Of The King was nearly not shite.
He's too busy with the next
Durham Red BloodRayne.
Quote from: radiator on 11 January, 2013, 12:35:51 AM
Sounds like a lot of shops underestimated demand, hearing of it selling out in a lot of stores stateside.
I haven't had a chance to see myself, since I ordered my copy online. I will have to take a look at some stores around here to see how much has actually been bought.
If anyone wants to write a review of the DVD for the hi-ex! Blog, I'd be very grateful...
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 11 January, 2013, 12:27:56 AMYou got a great movie, and some real public acceptance of your favourite comic character in the sense that we all understand him
That second point's good for two things. First, although there won't be a sequel, we could end up with Dredd the film being remembered similarly to Serenity: it tanked at the box office, but cleaned up on rental/shiny disc sales. Therefore, it wasn't a total financial disaster and 'found its market' at home, as they say. Secondly, attitude towards Dredd is dramatically changing. Before this film, Dredd was remembered as that crappy, camp 1990s movie starring Stallone. Now, Dredd is cool. Outside of the core audience, I suspect Dredd will remain a cult figure, but for anyone where Dredd is on the periphery, there's now an increasing chance he'll be known for something good (albeit a combination of cult classic/box-office bomb) than something terrible. And with Molch-R noting that Dredd books are shifting in the aftermath, that's an overall win.
All we need now now is a new dredd video game.
Quotefor anyone where Dredd is on the periphery, there's now an increasing chance he'll be known for something good (albeit a combination of cult classic/box-office bomb) than something terrible. And with Molch-R noting that Dredd books are shifting in the aftermath, that's an overall win.
This.
Though the box office results were heartbreaking, there is so much positive that came from this film. I've chatted to old friends on facebook - people I haven't seen in years - who loved the film. I've even had friends contacting me asking for Dredd comics to recommend them, and I've had other people tell me they've just bought their first prog.
A couple of my friends have seen the film two or even three times at the cinema, and will be buying the DVD/Blu Ray. Even my girlfriend loved it - genuinely
loved it, not just in a 'yes dear, it was very good' way.
It's worth remembering that the film itself could have gone so wrong, but didn't. The only thing wrong with it was that the shitmunchers ignored it. Rather a cult classic than a crap, watered-down film that succeeded.
Amen, brother.
http://vimeo.com/57142668 (http://vimeo.com/57142668)
Familiar vibe to this...
Quote from: Steve Green on 11 January, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
http://vimeo.com/57142668 (http://vimeo.com/57142668)
Familiar vibe to this...
Arsome boobage...oh yeah, erm, what did you say?
Nice subdermals and skin weave there. :)
Has anyone else noticed a complete lack of advertising the new home video release? I haven't seen one TV spot, or even a Youtube spot.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 11 January, 2013, 08:47:59 PM
Has anyone else noticed a complete lack of advertising the new home video release? I haven't seen one TV spot, or even a Youtube spot.
Saw it on tv few times...
No sequel = time for a cgi cartoon series then :p
Just watched the (US) Blu-ray.
The sound is great, the pic mostly great but, boy there are some perplexingly smeary/grainy scenes in there that I didn't recall in the 3D Cinema showings.
The scene with Caleb and MaMa just after the drug bust is the worst offender, it looks like it was shot on a camcorder I used to have which struggled with low light and smeared the image to fuck, as well as being grainy.
Not sure if this is a side effect of squeezing the 3D and 2D transfers onto one disc, or pushing the gain/ISO/Whatever RED has on the camera too much (that happens a few times by the look of it), it may have been intentional, but it's not a look I particularly like.
More irritating is that there are 7 trailers on the disc which you have to manually skip to get to the main menu, and having those take up space takes the piss a bit.
The 35 years doc is interesting - haven't really delved into the rest, but it looks like what was on youtube.
It's an OK release - would have liked to have had a commentary, but would really like to know the story behind the variable quality of the footage - it seems to lurch a bit within a scene, which is a bit odd.
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 January, 2013, 12:22:32 AM
Just watched the (US) Blu-ray.
The sound is great, the pic mostly great but, boy there are some perplexingly smeary/grainy scenes in there that I didn't recall in the 3D Cinema showings.
The scene with Caleb and MaMa just after the drug bust is the worst offender, it looks like it was shot on a camcorder I used to have which struggled with low light and smeared the image to fuck, as well as being grainy.
Not sure if this is a side effect of squeezing the 3D and 2D transfers onto one disc, or pushing the gain/ISO/Whatever RED has on the camera too much (that happens a few times by the look of it), it may have been intentional, but it's not a look I particularly like.
Where you wearing dark glasses in the cinema?
I reckon most of the noise is from the SI-2K rig footage. I don't believe having both 3D & 2D on one disc would matter too much apart the fact the image would be brighter as it's graded for 3D. Not only that but it's still only one version on the disc- the 2D version is merely the isolated left-eye of the 3D encode. It would need to be contrasted with a 2D only bluray to know for sure.
There are a bunch of people screaming about how putting the 2D and 3D on the same disk is bad. Either they feel the 2D encode sufferes due to space constaints (which isn't actually the case) or because the 2D version is the 'left-eye' track of the 3D movie, its not optimized for 2D viewing.
I however have yet to find any actual proof that the 2D version is anything except how the film makers wanted it presented in 2D. Any excessive grain or blurring being the director's intent for the imagery of various scenes.
Its not suppose to be a pretty film (except in Slo-Mo scenes)
I just got my copy in the mail. I was amused that the quote they chose for the movie on the back of the box was from joblo.com. Anyways, the case is pretty typical of blu-rays, plus that sleeve. I've only watched the first five minutes to get an idea of the quality and will watch it later, but it looks good to me.
As for the grainyness, I don't think it has anything to do with the way the disc was shared between the 3D and 2D prints. The digital versions have the same appearance- I took this from a quick look at the ultraviolet copy I got, and it's the same with the iTunes copy.
http://i.imgur.com/znVYJ.jpg
This is as far as I can tell at least.
I remember there being plenty of graininess when watching it in the cinema. Surely this was a stylistic choice, rather than shoddy quality?
Still holding strong, no.1 and no.2 on Amazon US and UK blu-ray charts respectively. and no.3 on itunes.
I very rarely track home video sales. How long would people expect it to remain in the top five had it at least done well enough to break even at the box office?
2 weeks maybe; Taken 2 will likely knock it off the top spot next week.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2013, 12:36:24 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 January, 2013, 12:22:32 AM
Just watched the (US) Blu-ray.
The sound is great, the pic mostly great but, boy there are some perplexingly smeary/grainy scenes in there that I didn't recall in the 3D Cinema showings.
The scene with Caleb and MaMa just after the drug bust is the worst offender, it looks like it was shot on a camcorder I used to have which struggled with low light and smeared the image to fuck, as well as being grainy.
Not sure if this is a side effect of squeezing the 3D and 2D transfers onto one disc, or pushing the gain/ISO/Whatever RED has on the camera too much (that happens a few times by the look of it), it may have been intentional, but it's not a look I particularly like.
Where you wearing dark glasses in the cinema?
I reckon most of the noise is from the SI-2K rig footage. I don't believe having both 3D & 2D on one disc would matter too much apart the fact the image would be brighter as it's graded for 3D. Not only that but it's still only one version on the disc- the 2D version is merely the isolated left-eye of the 3D encode. It would need to be contrasted with a 2D only bluray to know for sure.
Yes, of course - but... I saw it 4 times at the cinema, and only ever noticed the one scene being particularly grainy - more video noise than grain, a shot of Dredd after the other judges turn up, what I find odd is that on the BR there are scenes which appear much 'worse' than that which I didn't notice on any of the 4 occasions.
I think using the same grade for 2D as it is 3D is a cause, maybe some of that noise was being hidden in the shadow areas and the relatively brighter 2D is making it more obvious overall.
As for the Adventurer's comment about it not supposed to be a pretty film, I disagree - there are plenty of shots outside of slomo which look beautiful even though they are grimey and depressing - but there are a handful of shots which I don't much care for, whether that's by design or accident.
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 January, 2013, 10:06:07 PM
I think using the same grade for 2D as it is 3D is a cause, maybe some of that noise was being hidden in the shadow areas and the relatively brighter 2D is making it more obvious overall.
It would definitely make what's all ready there more noticeable. I saw the 2D vesion twice in the cinema and it was there but less prominent. It's not something that bothers me too much though, digital is less forgiving than film in the extremes.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2013, 09:39:04 PM
2 weeks maybe; Taken 2 will likely knock it off the top spot next week.
Danke.
On a side note I just noticed a trailer during Beowulf. The 00:50 ad break on ITV1+1.
Though looking at it again it all looked very brief and 'oh by the way' next to the fantasy film, Zero Dark Thirty. I suppose it's only a Blu-ray trailer though.
rather miffed went looking for this yesterday but couldn't find it in any shops around town and im not a internet purchaser. Has this been released in OZ on DVD/Blue Ray yet? or like the cinema release are we going to be a couple of months later for our release? anyone know
CU radabcker
Taken can suck an egg. Dredd will/would/can beat the shit out of any JIVE TURKEY/CREEP who thinks they know better then the law.
I probably didn't put that across properly. Taken 2 was the equivalent of a Steven Seagal (a current one too) film with no justification why people would watch it. Not even for a laugh or anything.
Dredd is a masterpiece.
hi folks just found this nice interview with TRAVIS
interesting he's possibly working on another comic strip movie
http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-pete-travis-talks-dredd-3d-blu-ray
Quote from: Radbacker on 13 January, 2013, 05:44:19 AM
rather miffed went looking for this yesterday but couldn't find it in any shops around town and im not a internet purchaser. Has this been released in OZ on DVD/Blue Ray yet? or like the cinema release are we going to be a couple of months later for our release? anyone know
CU radabcker
Think you have to wait until march.
Does anyone know if the blu-ray (UK) includes a digital download or not? Can't find any info on it anywhere
Doesnt look like a steelbook for the UK BR is in the offing. Unless any peeps know otherwise?
Quote from: dodsy on 13 January, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
Does anyone know if the blu-ray (UK) includes a digital download or not? Can't find any info on it anywhere
According to this image it looks like it...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=240910639374419&set=a.117935321671952.20753.114524515346366&type=1&theater
Although , after checking , it looks like that is the US version , so still unsure to the UK one..
Quote from: strontium71 on 13 January, 2013, 01:50:33 PM
Although , after checking , it looks like that is the US version , so still unsure to the UK one..
It is, as Its said "Judgment"
Mark Kermode's opinion on Dredd seems to have mellowed since he reviewed the cinema release.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jan/13/dredd-hysteria-shadow-dancer-dvd-review
'Dredd remains a severely flawed but still honourable attempt to transfer the savage satire of the strip to screen in a manner that expunges forever the memory of Stallone's dopey yuck-fest. For that we should all rise.'
Severely flawed?
Another review of Dredd from Mark, but still any compliments are very much of the backhanded variety
He states that it's "severely flawed" yet doesn't bother to explain himself. Yeah, OK.
Let's just pray Dredd 2 3D and The Raid 2 aren't released in the same year. There are only so many more comparisons I can take. Dredd has done as much to promote The Raid as The Raid.
Quote from: Stan on 13 January, 2013, 07:55:19 PM
Let's just pray Dredd 2 3D and The Raid 2 aren't released in the same year.
I think we all know that this is not going to happen. Unless the sequel to the Raid is delayed by a couple of decades, of course.
It's out now so I expect to hear Goaty has been queuing all night to buy his copy from his local shop ;)
QuoteI think we all know that this is not going to happen
I don't think any of us know any such thing.
In fact I recall reading a recent news article where the movie's director says a sequel is still likely. Though he won't be involved personally.
I'll try to dig it up if I can recall were I found it.
here it is (http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-pete-travis-not-directing-dredd-2-the-director-remains-hopeful-for-a-sequel)
Turns out I was wrong about him indicating a sequel was still probable. He's just really hopeful it continues.
Yeah, but I still think it's positive that he didn't rule it out. It's not like he's a tea boy or something.
If I'm honest, I reckon the best chance of a sequel would be if there was a neutered down version of Dredd to get the 12A certificate. Film producers won't be able to help themselves from studying the success of other comic book adaptations which all seem come in with this certificate (which cynically trades on aiming the film at a young audience but puts in the odd bit of spicy language or a bit of violence so parents have to take their children to the cinema, 2 tickets sold for the price of 1). I hate how 12A has become such a pivotal classification, it's the worst of both worlds as it means both children and adults lose out because there are much fewer films are aimed at either audience.
I'd hate to see this happen to Dredd, but if it was the only way to get a sequel made?... I'd still go and see it although I'd feel quite dispirited about the situation.
At least we'd get the chance to see dozens of cars blown up then!
Quote from: The Bissler on 14 January, 2013, 12:52:07 AM
If I'm honest, I reckon the best chance of a sequel would be if there was a neutered down version of Dredd to get the 12A certificate.
They tried that with the Stallone film.
The rating wasn't the film's problem.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 14 January, 2013, 12:02:09 AM
It's out now so I expect to hear Goaty has been queuing all night to buy his copy from his local shop ;)
Sorry you wrong, i am relaxing in warm bed :)
If Dredd 3D isn't sat in the hallway waiting for me when I get home from work I will be blubbing into my pint all evening.
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 14 January, 2013, 07:51:14 AM
If Dredd 3D isn't sat in the hallway waiting for me when I get home from work I will be blubbing into my pint all evening.
If your area got snow, you might...
Got the drokkers! Good thing ASDA is opps to my workplace. Haha!
enjoy im just watching the interviews with the cast
only got the DVD . going to get the blu ray later today ultraviolet
good old Asda's got it out the vault room at 00:45 this morning for me . I was BUZZIN :o :o
sad to say TESCOS wouldnt release till 7am today
Quote from: The Adventurer on 14 January, 2013, 12:36:05 AMTurns out I was wrong about him indicating a sequel was still probable. He's just really hopeful it continues.
And, let's face it, the film's director's hardly in a piece going to press around the time the shiny discs come out going to go: "Yeah, it bombed. Zero chance of a sequel."
Id like to be able to review it, but alas its sold out. Bad for me, but good for the film.
Got the Blu-Ray (even though the only Blu-Ray player in the house is in my PC) and the DVD on Friday at HMV in Liffey Valley, Dublin. We arrived just as the guy was opening the box to put them on the shelves, so we were the FIRST! This I found to be greatly significant because back in February 1977 I was the very first person in my area to get 2000AD (I was in the shops when the comics were delivered).
Anyway... I've watched the Blu-Ray twice so far, and it's still a cracking movie!
Unfortunately there's no commentary or deleted scenes, but there are some nice (though far too short) features, and lots of little interview snippets (some of which already appear - in part - in the other features).
I'm hoping that if the discs are selling as well as they appear to be, maybe somewhere down the line we'll get a special edition with lots more extras, but for now I'm more than happy with the release!
-- Mike
Mr. Carrol (or anyone else whom has it already) can you confirm for me that the BD is extra free?
Where's the mother drokking edit button? 3D BD I meant to say!
That Lena Headey interview was interesting (apart from being seconds long) due to hearing her natural voice while she is in Ma-Ma mode :o
There's about as much chance of getting a sequel if you all buy the DVD as there is of Kelly Brook shagging me because I keep getting the calendar.
Which is good enough for me!
Got mine from sainsburys at number one in the chart for blu ray and dvd
Got it today. Mine to enjoy in glorious 2d over and over.
I hear stores are getting very little stock. Very odd as it sounds like the demand is there.
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 January, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
Got it today. Mine to enjoy in glorious 2d over and over.
I hear stores are getting very little stock. Very odd as it sounds like the demand is there.
Is Apple handling the distribution now?
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 January, 2013, 08:19:12 PMI hear stores are getting very little stock. Very odd as it sounds like the demand is there.
Maybe buyers looked at the box office figures and bought relatively few copies.
Hope not on both. Still at least there is scope if it sees good sales for more stock to roll out.
Should be a word of mouth seller this.
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 January, 2013, 08:52:35 PM
Hope not on both. Still at least there is scope if it sees good sales for more stock to roll out.
Should be a word of mouth seller this.
Never say die!
I think history will judge it a great film that sadly rode the 3d bubble just as it burst but that hopefully became a cult and sold well at home.
Quote from: Something Fishy on 14 January, 2013, 08:58:05 PM
I think history will judge it a great film that sadly rode the 3d bubble just as it burst but that hopefully became a cult and sold well at home.
Yeah, I think it's inarguable that the film underperformed its reviews, and will be fondly remembered by most of those who saw it. Blu-Ray/DVD sales should be decent, but probably not spectacular.
Dredd 3D flying off the shelves in HMV Leicester according to the Tiller today.
V
Someone post it in Dredd IMDB messageboard
Weird. My HMV had it for £12.99 (Blu-ray). When I went past after work, all the Blu-rays and half the DVD's were gone (Lawless's shelves were pretty much unchanged).
Who-hoo - Tharg'll be in a new tracksuit by the weekend!
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/button71/dredd-2.jpg)
I got one of the last few blu rays at my local tesco i got home and my blu ray player
went and died on me NOOOOOOOOO lol
I saw someone selling the disc on eBay and it had the Judged Gangs M on the disc itself. Anyone know if this is the Oz disc itself, as it looks way better than ours!
yeah this megacity masters clip we didnt get that came with American bluray ,think i found a section online here
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Exclusive-Dredd-Blu-ray-Bonus-Clip-Explores-Judge-Dredd-Comic-Roots-34967.html
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 January, 2013, 12:27:44 AM
I saw someone selling the disc on eBay and it had the Judged Gangs M on the disc itself. Anyone know if this is the Oz disc itself, as it looks way better than ours!
Could be a preview copy, maybe they're pressed just sitting in warehouses?
My copy just arrived.
Wow - did someone at Entertainment in Video let their 11 year old nephew do the graphics, photoshopping and copywriting on this release? The copy on the back reads like something that's been through Google Translate and back.
A shame. Hope it gets the Blu Ray treatment it deserves somewhere down the line.
Got mine via Sainsburys yesterday as I had a code bringing it down to £10.49.
The sleeve is pretty awful, a shame about the extras being rather sparse (no trailer!) and the picture quality is quite ropey. It looks grainy, but not actual film grain that is apparent on some Blu Rays almost like a sort of grainy blurring at times. It all looks a bit VHS to me.
I am watching on good old 2d as I don't have (or want) a 3d TV, so maybe that's something to do with it.
Most odd.
Still, if this is all the Dredd we get I'll still watch it until it wears out
Quote from: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
The copy on the back reads like something that's been through Google Translate and back.
Agreed -- assuming it's the same as the DVD I got today, the copywriting on the back cover blurb is an absolute disgrace.
Cheers
Jim
"Our two judges" is delightfully parochial.
That would be Entertainment in Video, worst DVD UK Distributor ever! 8 in 10 of their DVDs lack of subtitles!
I like this bit:
QuoteThe only ones attempting to impose order are The Judges; Law enforcers, juries, and executioners rolled into one. The epitome of these is Dredd.
A specially commissioned alternative sleeve would be most grateful Mr. Tharg seeing as EIV have acted very poorly.
Between the shoddy and inferior DVD/BR release and the restricted availability to view the movie on release in Ireland and the UK, this has been nothing more than a disgrace and farce so far! >:(
Got my copy yesterday but with work I haven't had time to watch the movie again (and won't for a while which is annoying)!
Stuck on a couple of scenes just to see the blu-ray quality. It's a lot grainier than I would have expected, but grain never bothers me too much so I can live with that. The slo-mo drug bust is absolutely eye-popping, gorgeous. I'd seen the film five times in 3D and enjoyed the 3D, but to see it without that muddying and tint to it is just phenomenal. Can't wait to watch the whole thing as seeing it this bright and lively is just...wow.
Pretty disappointed with the package, the extras are all tiny fluff pieces that we saw before the movie came out and some raw interview footage from which those pieces derived. There doesn't seem to have been any new content created for the home release. I know it didn't do well, but I've bought dvds/blu-rays of films that bombed way worse than Dredd and still got commentaries and hours of extras. Pretty gutted with that side of it if I'm honest.
Still seeing the movie whenever I want and looking as good as it does is just brilliant, so I'm still very, very happy and very, very excited to sit down to watch it again. And again.
Quotethis has been nothing more than a disgrace and farce
I wouldn't go that far - it's more of a very minor irritant - the important thing is the film itself.
Can't vouch for the picture quality myself - will check it out later. But the film did look a bit grainy/noisy even in the cinema, especially in the darker bits.
I had to get the DvD because all blu had sold out but I was very imprssed with th picture,nice and clean .
Can anyone confirm if the Blu-Ray has a free digital download with it or not? I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive :(
No download copy, no.
In general, referring to the cinema release and disk release on behalf of EIV.
Cinema release was very limited in Ireland and advertising non-existant. Lack of 2D showings as well.
The disk release is the final straw for me between the packaging, features and soundtracks. :(
I have purchased the bluray disk and I expected the same release as the Americans. I have an inferior release with content missing and inferior soundtracks.
I was half tempted to download the movie but I bought the Irish/UK release to support this movie.
I will definately download the American features ommitted from this release seeing as we got screwed as I want to see the content.
What is with EIV???
Quote from: dodsy on 15 January, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
Can anyone confirm if the Blu-Ray has a free digital download with it or not? I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive :(
No, the US Blu-Ray does, but you need a US account to redeem the code.
Quote from: radiator on 15 January, 2013, 12:54:47 PM
Quotethis has been nothing more than a disgrace and farce
Can't vouch for the picture quality myself - will check it out later. But the film did look a bit grainy/noisy even in the cinema, especially in the darker bits.
I don't think it looks bad, I actually quite like a bit of grain for some reason but I know a lot of people don't like it. It's noticeable if you're looking for it but no more.
One thing I did notice in the short sequence I watched (the slo-mo drug den bust) was that once the slo-mo effects kicked in the picture quality was genuinely incredible, so if anything the grain on the corridor scene created a really startling contrast that really makes the eyes pop when things clean up. Can't exaggerate how excited I am to watch the whole thing.
Rather disappointed with the picture quality of the UK Blu-Ray too.
Not sure if it's due to a poor master sourced by Rntertainment In Video.
It seems to replicate an anomaly I experienced at my frequent cinema visits. I saw the film 8 times at a Cineworld cinema and each time the Real D 3D picture quality was fine, aside from some slight ghosting.
However, when I caught it at an Odeon cinema in what I believe was standard 3D (with the goggles) in London, there was noticeably less ghosting but the amount of grain was considerably worse.
any theories?
had to turn the contrast and colour down on my TV before the film was watchable.
"entertainment In Video."
Anybody ordering this version (http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B00A2HCHF2/ref=dra_a_cs_mr_hn_it_P1400_1000?tag=dradis0d-21) of the blu-ray? Very nice looking and as it's French the synopsis on the back will read better ;) Shame it isn't a proper steelbook.
Quote from: sheldipez on 15 January, 2013, 02:48:20 PM
Anybody ordering this version (http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B00A2HCHF2/ref=dra_a_cs_mr_hn_it_P1400_1000?tag=dradis0d-21) of the blu-ray? Very nice looking and as it's French the synopsis on the back will read better ;) Shame it isn't a proper steelbook.
I'm going for the Aussie edition.
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/blu-ray/dredd-3d-limited-edition/dp/6138334
QuoteAnybody ordering this version of the blu-ray?
I was tempted, but as I said before:
a) It's crazy expensive.
b) French text all over it.
c) High chance of hard French subtitles which cannot be switched off.
d) No title on spine, and even if there is, it will most likely go the 'wrong' way up like most other French language books, DVDs etc - exactly the sort of thing that would bother the type of person who goes to the trouble of collecting rare editions and steelbooks.
I'm hoping for a UK special edition, or a proper steelbook version (less likely now that there'll most likely be no more HMV/Play.com exclusive steelbooks...).
It would be cool if the Alex Garland and Karl Urban did a downloadable commentary track or something that can be played in sync with the movie. It really annoys me how lazy all the promotion/extras have been as the people who actually made the film were clearly very passionate about it. As are the fans of the film and if we aren't going to get a sequel there should at least be as much behind the scenes, makings of etc. as possible.
Anyone notice the blood doesn't leave the frame on the blu-ray the way it did in cinemas? I know it was probably done to enhance the 3D effect (and worked a treat) but wouldn't have thought there'd be any harm in keeping it in.
And now bought! And just watched the opening five minutes before tea.
Looks pretty darn good!
Id tried HMV yesterday to no avail. Tesco had sold out today, but managed to snag the 2nd to last BR in Sainsburys.
£12.99. Not bad price. Is that what people are roughly getting theirs for?
Finally seen this thanks to my postie and I like it.
It was wise to do such a simple story and if there is a sequel (everything is crossed for that) I hope they get a bit more ambitious with the storyline and show off more of the richness of the world, the politics, and the villians while keeping the vibe that has now been struck.
I wasn't sold on everything, but I'm not here to bash it because overall it gets a big thumbs up.
Some general thoughts. Slightly spoilerish.
It was much more violent than I expected (having avoided nearly every article or spoiler on the film) but it needed to be hard hitting. I was sceptical about the Anderson actress but she pulled it off, striking a believeable junxtaposition between looking young/vulnerable and being dour/serious/tough. The city was less advanced than that of the comics (normal style cars etc) - I'm guessing that was due to budget constraints. Lots of nice little touches such as the shop signs and graffiti peppered around the place. The helmet didn't look as stupid as it did on one of the only stills I had seen about a year ago - phew. Karl Urban was okay. It must be hard to dazzle as an actor in a role such as this, but I do feel that any number of people could have done just as good a job. Peach Trees was an awsome location but it failed to convince me that 75 thousand people lived there (I hope I heard that stat right when it was mentioned) - it just didn't have the scale, even with a tiny skate park sticking out the side.....
Overall very good. More please.
Regarding the scale.. Alex (Garland..) said that they did have lots more megablocks in there, but you lost a sense of scale.. By having them a bit more dispersed you could see the contrast between the 'normal' buildings and the megs, getting an immediate feeling of how big they actually are..
Is that string on the stun ball grenade? I can see it a lot clearer now and didn't notice it before.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 January, 2013, 06:12:29 PM
Regarding the scale.. Alex (Garland..) said that they did have lots more megablocks in there, but you lost a sense of scale.. By having them a bit more dispersed you could see the contrast between the 'normal' buildings and the megs, getting an immediate feeling of how big they actually are..
That's it, you can see the clutter effect in this early concept, there's just too much:
(http://www.neilmillervfx.com/USERIMAGES/3c_mega_distanta.jpg)
I was never fond of this either:
(http://www.thingsmagazine.net/projects/036/003.jpg)
I prefer a bit of uniformity among the variation, not just fuck everything in.
What this version of Dredd really did well is that it took one aspect of the city - the uniquely Dredd-ian concept of the City Blocks/Mega Blocks - and it really sold that one concept excellently.
There are a few shots in Dredd '95 - the wide shots of the city - that really betray this amazing epic the filmmakers intended to make - but outside of that it looks like generic central. It never really feels particularly like Mega City One to me.
Quote from: strontium71 on 15 January, 2013, 06:17:15 PM
Is that string on the stun ball grenade? I can see it a lot clearer now and didn't notice it before.
antenna, possibly for detonate on demand..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 15 January, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: strontium71 on 15 January, 2013, 06:17:15 PM
Is that string on the stun ball grenade? I can see it a lot clearer now and didn't notice it before.
antenna, possibly for detonate on demand..
I thought they were legs for positioning.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 15 January, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
It would be cool if the Alex Garland and Karl Urban did a downloadable commentary track or something that can be played in sync with the movie. It really annoys me how lazy all the promotion/extras have been as the people who actually made the film were clearly very passionate about it. As are the fans of the film and if we aren't going to get a sequel there should at least be as much behind the scenes, makings of etc. as possible.
The lack of commentary is quite disappointing because this film is perfect for it (from mine, and I suspect, many fan's perspectives). Though after randomly picking up a few DVDs I notice my copy of Prometheus only has six deleted scenes and Prince of Persia only has a single documentary. I find the lack of extras to be quite common with standard DVDs.
Plus I don't ordinarily follow films as closely as I have with Dredd or Transformers so even sparse bonus features are usually new to me.
Got mine today, immediately sat down and watched it when I got home! Still as awesome as the previous 5 times, although a slight niggle about the grainyness of some scenes, I'm positive it wasn't there in the cinema, and is really noticeable when you switch straight from a dark grainy scene to a pin-sharp brightly lit scene.
Still great though. :D
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
BluRay fine on my PS3.
Maybe you could hold down the power button on PS3 till you hear the bleep, that would changes the settings to your monitor.
I played mine on PS3 and it was fine, do other blu-rays play on it ok? Could be the display settings on your console.
My ps3 played it fine.
Same here, no problems.
Everything else plays fine on it. I originally thought it may be because the hdmi runs through a receiver but 3d games play no problem through it. I've looked at some av forums since posting here and lots of people are experiencing the same issue on the dredd disc and speaking of a big faulty batch. I'm selfishly hoping that this is the case but if it is there are only so many times people are going to bother exchanging them before they just get there money back.(some people have mentioned exchanging and having the same problem with the 2nd disc).
Over on Blu-Ray.com there have been a number of problems involving Dredd playback. Almost universally from discs bought at Best Buy. Its thought there was a bad batch, as its not wide spread. Personally I'd take it back and exchange it, and if the replacement doesn't work. Try to get a refund and find another store.
Glorious. Just finished watching Dredd (and for the first time in 2D). The film is every bit as good, and as enjoyable, as it was when i first saw it in the cinema.
A sequel is now required, please.
On first 2D home viewing, the choice of visual palette - quick cuts ranging from Pin-sharp to grainy to almost bootleg/raw footage quality, was slightly distracting though. But nowt i cant live with.
Happy chappy.
Saw the 2D on DVD last night - great!
Saw the 3D on Blu-ray just now. EPIC!!!!
My god, overall the quality of the 3D is even better than that of the cinema. There was only one exception that I could see - the exploding cheek. I'm sure some of the blood sprayed past the black border bottom right in the cinema. On the Blu-ray it didn't. It disappeared behind the edge of the frame. A small gripe, 'cos the rest was brilliant!
What complemented the 3D was that ultra-real look you get with HD Blu-ray. It made things stand out all the more, such as the lawmaster chase scene. Dredds bike really leapt out from the background.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 12:12:28 AM
Saw the 2D on DVD last night - great!
Saw the 3D on Blu-ray just now. EPIC!!!!
My god, overall the quality of the 3D is even better than that of the cinema. There was only one exception that I could see - the exploding cheek. I'm sure some of the blood sprayed past the black border bottom right in the cinema. On the Blu-ray it didn't. It disappeared behind the edge of the frame. A small gripe, 'cos the rest was brilliant!
What complemented the 3D was that ultra-real look you get with HD Blu-ray. It made things stand out all the more, such as the lawmaster chase scene. Dredds bike really leapt out from the background.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
I'm really curious to see that. Personally I think 3D works better on a smaller screen than on a larger one. Still have to formulate a theory as to why (was working until 4.20 this morning, only to be woken up by 6.30..) So eh.. Where was I going with that? no idea..
Wasn't the blood splash outside the screen achieved in the cinema simply by introducing a 'fake' border at the bottom of the screen in black and the letting the blood go over that? It didn't actually 'leave' the frame, it looks as though they didn't bother doing this for the Bluray.
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 January, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
Fine on my ps3.
Only problem I had was a brief stutter playing on my pc but that could be the drive, though it hasn't done it before so maybe the software or indeed something else being a pain. It is a powerful pc so it's not that.
Overall it's fine though.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 January, 2013, 07:12:19 AM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 12:12:28 AM
Saw the 2D on DVD last night - great!
Saw the 3D on Blu-ray just now. EPIC!!!!
My god, overall the quality of the 3D is even better than that of the cinema. There was only one exception that I could see - the exploding cheek. I'm sure some of the blood sprayed past the black border bottom right in the cinema. On the Blu-ray it didn't. It disappeared behind the edge of the frame. A small gripe, 'cos the rest was brilliant!
What complemented the 3D was that ultra-real look you get with HD Blu-ray. It made things stand out all the more, such as the lawmaster chase scene. Dredds bike really leapt out from the background.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
I'm really curious to see that. Personally I think 3D works better on a smaller screen than on a larger one. Still have to formulate a theory as to why (was working until 4.20 this morning, only to be woken up by 6.30..) So eh.. Where was I going with that? no idea..
I'm not sure it's just down to size - I noticed that the fan screening had better 3D than the public screenings (and I think they were using active shutter glasses at that), so it might be an active vs passive thing as well.
Interestingly, my TV is passive, yet the 3D was better than both the shutter at the preview and the passive during all 7 other cinema showings I saw.
You weren't drunk this time.
I wasn't even aware you could get passive 3d tvs. Do they effectively have double the pixels or do you see the movie at 1/2 res?
I think they're interlaced, seemed to look that way on one I saw.
Just finished watching my Bluray copy of our awesome Dredd movie, it gets better with each viewing. An Easter egg alert (it may have been seen by another boader earlier so apologies if your aware). There's a massive bill board of Joe Soaps Avatar in the back ground as Dredd chases the perp's in the opening scene. My fav bit of the movie too :D
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 January, 2013, 03:45:49 PM
You weren't drunk this time.
I wasn't drunk at the preview. Well, not until after we'd seen the film. But I was drunk this time, so maybe that's it...
Massive four page review of the DVD/Blu-Ray in the latest Sci-Fi Now magazine.
Short version-they love it.
Interesting comment from an IMDB poster:
So I've just been talking to the manager of the entertainment division in my localTesco. She says that Dredd is the fastest selling DVD / Bluray they ever had. I wonder if the same is true elsewhere.
I wonder if the Dredd DVD in Tesco is hoofing it off the shelves as fast as their burgers?
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
I wonder if the Dredd DVD in Tesco is hoofing it off the shelves as fast as their burgers?
A galloping success, I hear.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 16 January, 2013, 07:25:55 PM
Interesting comment from an IMDB poster:
So I've just been talking to the manager of the entertainment division in my localTesco. She says that Dredd is the fastest selling DVD / Bluray they ever had. I wonder if the same is true elsewhere.
If one thing's certain, it's that posts about Dredd on IMDB are always 100% accurate.
Quote from: radiator on 16 January, 2013, 07:35:29 PM
If one thing's certain, it's that posts about Dredd on IMDB are always 100% accurate.
There's always one neigh-sayer.
Cheers!
Jim
That would kick ass if true.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 January, 2013, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
I wonder if the Dredd DVD in Tesco is hoofing it off the shelves as fast as their burgers?
A galloping success, I hear.
:lol: Brilliant!
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 January, 2013, 07:19:54 PM
Massive four page review of the DVD/Blu-Ray in the latest Sci-Fi Now magazine.
Another trip to Smiths for me tomorrow, unless I get Caz to get me it and put it next to the bed so when I wake up I'll be happy. That's it, I've talked myself into the wife buying it for me :D
I won't believe it until I hear it straight from the....
Press release.
Quote from: radiator on 16 January, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
I won't believe it until I hear it straight from the....
Press release.
I'm glad you decided to take the bit between the teeth and reign in these horse jokes, making this thread more stable. After all it should be foal of nothing but Dredd!
Sorry...
Watched it again tonight, a quick tip for those with poor 2D pictures -
I played it in 3D (on a 2D tv on a normal PS3) with 'cinema' mode switched on on my TV, and I noticed the grainy picture improved by an order of magnitude! Try it out, you could be surprised. :D
Quote from: radiator on 16 January, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
I won't believe it until I hear it straight from the....
Press release.
You'd be lucky to find any sales press release for sell-through; it's very hard to find any figures from individual companies let alone individual countries. The closest you'll get are US estimates compiled by thenumbers.com
Equine joking aside...
of course.
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 January, 2013, 07:19:54 PM
Massive four page review of the DVD/Blu-Ray in the latest Sci-Fi Now magazine.
One of best reviews I read.
Been quickly scanning all four pages at shop, I love this one, we get mention at number 5!
(http://i.imgur.com/S64s9.jpg)
Got home from work last night, to see my youngest daughter (nearly 3) standing at the front door waiting for me with Dredd DVD in hand saying "It's yours", then going inside to see my other daughter (4) sitting on the sofa reading a Dredd case file. Both of them demanding to watch the film (yeah, no chance kids....not yet)
Packed them off to bed, stuck it on and watched with the wife - and she loved it. I could quite easily have watched it again as soon as it finished.
My three girls are desperate to watch the film. I may play them the first fairly innocuous five minutes and then tell them they can watch the rest in 10 years, if they behave.
I am glad you both won't show the film to the kids. it's not suitable for kids!
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
My three girls are desperate to watch the film. I may play them the first fairly innocuous five minutes and then tell them they can watch the rest in 10 years, if they behave.
Whatever happened to the lost fatherly art of hands over eyes and ears.
I think I must be the only one here with a wife that didnt like Dredd. She absolutely hated it.
I can't believe they didn't mention you in that article Goaty!
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
I wonder if the Dredd DVD in Tesco is hoofing it off the shelves as fast as their burgers?
haha nice :lol: and no i dont mean horse meat
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 January, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
I can't believe they didn't mention you in that article Goaty!
I know, bastards!
You kept that quiet Goaty. On page 75 they do a piece about throwaway mentions to please the fans. At the bottom is a screen grab showing the Fergee line in the news ticker and obviously at the top of that picture is ME :lol:
I'm in the mag :D
Yep! Knew you will read it this today as that why I kept quiet till your surprise at your famous cameo! :-)
Here four pages scanning!
Removed!
Which is now only one. At Goaty's request.
Cool. I was going to buy the magazine but I don't need to now.
Quote from: Banners on 17 January, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
Cool. I was going to buy the magazine but I don't need to now.
Teivion will be along shortly to tell us all we're thieving bastards for looking at these scans.
In all seriousness, Goaty -- this is taking the piss a bit.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 09:17:04 AM
Quote from: Banners on 17 January, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
Cool. I was going to buy the magazine but I don't need to now.
Teivion will be along shortly to tell us all we're thieving bastards for looking at these scans.
In all seriousness, Goaty -- this is taking the piss a bit.
Cheers
Jim
I have to agree - I have removed the image.
Goaty, I appreciate your excitment and all, but, y'know...
Drat, now I have to go and stand in WHSmiths to read it. :P ;)
Just ordered the Blu-Ray for Dredd off Ebay for forty bucks.
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 17 January, 2013, 12:05:36 PM
Just ordered the Blu-Ray for Dredd off Ebay for forty bucks.
Why? Amazon has it in stock for $21.96 if you are in the U.S.
ThryllSeekyr is one of our antipodean brethren is he not?
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 January, 2013, 09:17:04 AM
Quote from: Banners on 17 January, 2013, 09:02:47 AM
Cool. I was going to buy the magazine but I don't need to now.
Teivion will be along shortly to tell us all we're thieving bastards for looking at these scans.
In all seriousness, Goaty -- this is taking the piss a bit.
Cheers
Jim
Well if posting an opinion on this forum earns me crap like this , no, I won't.
EDIT: Oh, fuck it. Never mind.
Jim... :o
Quote from: w3bz on 17 January, 2013, 03:45:09 PM
Jim...
What? I'm letting it drop. If anyone objected to what I wrote in the 8 seconds it was up before I deleted it, I'm sorry.
In fact, I'm not sorry, but life's too short and I didn't want to derail the thread any more than I already had.
Okay, I am so sorry, should know better, won't do ever like that again.
Quote from: Goaty on 17 January, 2013, 04:22:18 PM
Okay, I am so sorry, should know better, won't do ever like that again.
This is what I didn't want to happen. Don't worry about it, mate -- storm in a teacup, as far as I'm concerned.
Cheers!
Jim
'Dredd' Buries 'Frankenweenie' In Home Video Sales]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dredd-buries-frankenweenie-home-video-413109]'Dredd' Buries 'Frankenweenie' In Home Video Sales (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dredd-buries-frankenweenie-home-video-413109)
The sci-fi actioner reboot tops the sales chart while "Ted" and "The Bourne Legacy" lead in rentals.
Great news that its doing the biz, isnt it. Fingers crossed...
And rewatched Dredd last night. Nice to be able to pause and re-wind to catch little bits and bobs, isnt it.
A shame i can screen grab for BR's though. Plenty of nice images i'd like to capture.
It was flying off the shelves in HMV Oxford St on Monday - I nabbed the last one, but all the other new releases had loads of copies left.
It won't play on my crappy old DVD player (but that's true for about 75% of disks, I really must get a new one) so I've been watching it through my old PS2 with no problems.
The horible design of the box and the menus, and the meagre extras don't really bother me much as long as I've got the movie. I'll wait and see what sort of special edition they come up with in a few months.
I hear the 'special' edition will contain a nightmare sequence where Dredd flashes back to his past where he has darker hair, rarely wears a helmet, and screams I am the LAAWW, but no one listens or cares.
Blu-ray Sales, January 7-13: Dredd Judges the Top Spots (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=10285)
Top Ten Blu-ray Sellers for Week Ending 01/13/13:
Dredd
Frankenweenie
Looper
House at the End of the Street
Pitch Perfect
The Dark Knight Rises
Hit and Run
Ted
Total Recall
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Top Five Home Media Sellers for Week Ending 01/13/13 (% of Blu-ray's Market Share Noted):
Dredd (48%)
Frankenweenie (47%)
Looper (46%)
House at the End of the Street (32%)
Pitch Perfect (25%)
Awesome!
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 January, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 16 January, 2013, 07:19:54 PM
Massive four page review of the DVD/Blu-Ray in the latest Sci-Fi Now magazine.
Another trip to Smiths for me tomorrow, unless I get Caz to get me it and put it next to the bed so when I wake up I'll be happy. That's it, I've talked myself into the wife buying it for me :D
Judge Burdis awakes and Mrs Burdis is standing in her regulation permitted evening wear reading for her 10 minutes with the sleep machine and the first thing he'll as for is if she picked up his Magazine 8-)
I decided to take a look at some stores around here stateside to see how the movie was selling.
-Fry's Electronics: The movie was listed as a release for that week, but I could not find it on the shelves. When I asked an employee, they said they still had to restock the shelves, but they still had copies in the back.
-Best Buy: DVD and Blu-Ray were kept at the front of the store with other new releases. There was still a considerable amount of copies (I'd say 8 Blu-Rays and 4 DVDs), but it had cleared out a row that was given to it on the new releases.
-Wal-Mart: A couple of DVD copies and a single blu-ray.
-Sam's Club: I found a blu-ray and no DVD. Could not find an employee working there to see if there was still extra copies, but they probably did.
-Target: Found a DVD copy, but no Blu-Ray. Employee working the electronic secion did not know if there were extra copies, but she was not aware of what movies were selling well in their store so I can't say what was going on there.
Entertain Mart (local shop): Had a few copies, more DVD than Blu-Ray like with Best Buy. Employee there I know from university says they got a fair bit of sales off it, more than they expected.
So afaik from here the inventory is moving, but they're not flying off the shelves. Better than nothing I guess, more so when you consider other movies which were in Dredd's position and did not show strong sales right away when it hit home media.
For anyone who cares, I can confirm the UK blu-ray has a more saturated/contrasty image than the US release.
UK BLU-RAY:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4062/dredduk.png)
US BLU-RAY:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/6407/dreddus.png)
But how many units are selling?
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 18 January, 2013, 12:27:34 AM
But how many units are selling?
You won't get numbers like that for about a month and they'll onlybe for the US.
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 January, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
The blu-ray plays on my PS3 and the picture is just fine but the sound is horribly distorted every time there's a particularly loud noise on the soundtrack, like gunfire or the roar of the lawmaster engine. I watched a chunk of the film but it got too bloody annoying to continue, it was bad enough to really spoil my enjoyment. :-\ I don't have any other disks that do that so I have to suppose my copy is faulty in some way. Anyway I'm going to try it on my new laptop which has a blu-ray drive to see if it makes any difference, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
It can depend on the soundsystem you have. Dredd's doundtrack is particularly dense.
Quote from: Judge von Boom on 17 January, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 17 January, 2013, 12:05:36 PM
Just ordered the Blu-Ray for Dredd off Ebay for forty bucks.
Why? Amazon has it in stock for $21.96 if you are in the U.S.
I didn't know they were selling it cheaper. Anyway, for some strange reason, I can't ever complete a transaction at
Amazon.
Quote from: James Stacey on 17 January, 2013, 02:05:47 PM
ThryllSeekyr is one of our antipodean brethren is he not?
You are correct. I am from and living in
Australia.
Don't want to be the fly in anyones ointment here, but hads anybody considered that they are selling out in a lot of places simply because Entertainment In Video thought it wouldn't sell and simply just didn't print enough?
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 18 January, 2013, 01:22:47 AM
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 January, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
The blu-ray plays on my PS3 and the picture is just fine but the sound is horribly distorted every time there's a particularly loud noise on the soundtrack, like gunfire or the roar of the lawmaster engine. I watched a chunk of the film but it got too bloody annoying to continue, it was bad enough to really spoil my enjoyment. :-\ I don't have any other disks that do that so I have to suppose my copy is faulty in some way. Anyway I'm going to try it on my new laptop which has a blu-ray drive to see if it makes any difference, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
For some reason my PS3 isnt playing through the surround sound system at the mo so I had to listen to it through the tv speakers. I had the same effect with the bass sounds vibrating massively. I moved the wii sensor bars and everything in case they were affecting it. Glad its not just my new tv has rattly speakers :)
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 18 January, 2013, 07:48:46 AM
Don't want to be the fly in anyones ointment here, but hads anybody considered that they are selling out in a lot of places simply because Entertainment In Video thought it wouldn't sell and simply just didn't print enough?
Probably, but it's still topping charts regardless so it must be doing well. I think when sales start to die down would be a great time to release a special edition and boost them back up again as people re-buy.
Nice review of Dredd in today's Metro
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 18 January, 2013, 07:48:46 AM
Don't want to be the fly in anyones ointment here, but hads anybody considered that they are selling out in a lot of places simply because Entertainment In Video thought it wouldn't sell and simply just didn't print enough?
It's a valid sales tactic. Nothing grabs headlines like a product selling out. Do you think brands like Nintendo and Apple couldn't fulfil demand on new products if they really wanted too.
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 18 January, 2013, 07:48:46 AM
Don't want to be the fly in anyones ointment here, but hads anybody considered that they are selling out in a lot of places simply because Entertainment In Video thought it wouldn't sell and simply just didn't print enough?
Of course but other anecdotal evidence on both sides of the pond also suggests otherwise.
True. I haven't been to a shop myself (got my copy off Amazon) so I haven't seen the empty shelves for myself. :)
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 January, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
You may have to just update your PS3.. Mine wouldn't play Avengers until I updated it (via Farcry 3.. )
Here's a prezzy.. This is the teeny Judge Death that was ultimately removed (the props master posted this on FB..). Sculpted by Barry Barichievy.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
For anyone who cares, I can confirm the UK blu-ray has a more saturated/contrasty image than the US release.
Probably goes some way to why I'm seeing more grain than others, especially in the shadows, as I've got the US disc.
Think it's worth posting my picture improving tip again -
Switch your TV to 'cinema mode' if it has one, and play it in 3D, even if you've only got a 2D TV. I found the picture improved immeasurably.
Quote from: Steve Green on 18 January, 2013, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
For anyone who cares, I can confirm the UK blu-ray has a more saturated/contrasty image than the US release.
Probably goes some way to why I'm seeing more grain than others, especially in the shadows, as I've got the US disc.
Could well be but the US disc looks better to me.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2013, 12:15:52 AM
UK BLU-RAY:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4062/dredduk.png)
US BLU-RAY:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/6407/dreddus.png)
Sorry but can't see what the different...? Oh shit I gone blind!
Colours are more saturated on the UK disc, look at the reds, blacks and highlights.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 09:30:53 AM
Here's a prezzy.. This is the teeny Judge Death that was ultimately removed (the props master posted this on FB..). Sculpted by Barry Barichievy.
Well isn't he cute!
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 18 January, 2013, 09:35:08 AM
Think it's worth posting my picture improving tip again -
Switch your TV to 'cinema mode' if it has one, and play it in 3D, even if you've only got a 2D TV. I found the picture improved immeasurably.
Yeah, there are a few presets on my setup which crunch the black levels.
Bought the Blu Ray via Amazon and received it this morning.
I do have a 3-D television but do not have a 3-D blu ray player at the moment. Something I shall be rectifying shortly so my review is based on the 2-D version.
I have been reading 2000 AD since issue 1 and therefore the expectations of this film were quite high but tempered by the 1995 version and the low budget of the film. Unlike many (or most) of you I have resisted the temptation to watch any trailers, read any articles (which means I have some serious catching up to do, especially in the Meg), or read any posts that might have spoilt the film for me so I went into it almost completely unaware of what to expect.
The film. First off, I thought it was excellent. A solid 8 out of ten. The storyline was not the greatest but the script crackled with great lines. Urban and Thirlby exceeded expectation and I actually think Thirlby stole the show.There were occasions when things didn't ring quite true but these were minor. The effects were, by and large, superb. I thought Pete Travis' direction was excellent and very Tarantino-esq at times (this is a compliment. I'm a huge fan of QT's work). The swearing never felt forced or unnecessary and the violence was explosive. It was quite refreshing to see an adult film treat the violence so well. The film had a real edge to it (considering how we all knew how it was going to end, let's be honest) and the implied sexual violence was dark and realistic. A very good film. I enjoyed this much more than "Skyfall" and I'm a huge James Bond fan (to the point that my Son is called James).
The picture: I can see where this will sparkle in 3-D and looking forward to watching it in that format. This is most obvious during the opening 20 minutes and the final 5. The 2-D picture was, for the most part, superb. The grain that has been mentioned is clearly meant to be there and is not digital noise. There are some scenes where the grain is overdone, especially in the background but overall it looks very good.
The sound. This is where the movie shines the most. The sountrack is utterly absorbing. I watched this on a 42" LG LCD tv with the sound fed through an Onkyo 7.1 amplifier via a HDMI slot. The sound just rocks. The music is crystal clear and the effects are loud and clear enough to make you jump in places. This disc is of demo quality when it comes to the sound. Superb.
The extras. Very disappointing. Nothing but fluff. A huge missed opportunity. I can only hope that the disc is so successful that a 'collector's edition' is released in the future with plenty of extras.
Overall I was not expecting great things it has to be said and I was more than pleasantly surprised. I did not get round to seeing this at the cinema (dang kids!) but it was well worth the wait. Kudos to all involved. Sad that it did not get the recognition it deserves at the box office but I hope that the discs sell by the bucket load. The makers and actors involved deserve it for such a well made and respectful treatment.
Yay my new blu ray player arrived today ive had the blu ray version
of the film since monday but havent been able to watch it as my old
one packed in on me on monday >:(. Im snowed of work at the moment
so ive already seen it once today and it gets better every time i watch it.
I was in tesco this morning and my mate who works there said all the blu rays
of dredd have sold out and all they have left are a few dvds and its no 1 in the tesco
charts on dvd and blu ray :thumbsup:
Quote from: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 January, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
You may have to just update your PS3.. Mine wouldn't play Avengers until I updated it (via Farcry 3.. )
Here's a prezzy.. This is the teeny Judge Death that was ultimately removed (the props master posted this on FB..). Sculpted by Barry Barichievy.
Nice. But is this the guy hanging from the rear view mirror? He's in every scene where he'd be visible. Right up until the annoying headphone-wearing chav tastes windscreen.
Quote from: Stan on 18 January, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 January, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
I'm gutted. Got mine today and have spent 3 hours so far pulling and adjusted leads here there and everywhere as it won't work on my ps3. Neither in 2d or 3d. Anyone own a ps3 and had a similar problem?
You may have to just update your PS3.. Mine wouldn't play Avengers until I updated it (via Farcry 3.. )
Here's a prezzy.. This is the teeny Judge Death that was ultimately removed (the props master posted this on FB..). Sculpted by Barry Barichievy.
Nice. But is this the guy hanging from the rear view mirror? He's in every scene where he'd be visible. Right up until the annoying headphone-wearing chav tastes windscreen.
Has anyone got a pic of it in the movie? I never spotted it!
I didn't notice it myself since furry dice things aren't really gonna catch my eye during a car chase, but when you know what you're looking for is stands out to the point where you can see it clearly from the outside of the van. It'd be interesting to see how much detail the Blu-ray caught.
iTunes doesn't allow grab to take a screenshot, so I just photographed the screen..
As far as I know, this is him. He appears ONLY in this shot..
AAAAAAaaaAAaAahAhhHH, gotcha. I was looking at the guy hanging from the mirror.
Tell you what tho, the attention to little details like that in the film constantly astounds me. We're very lucky to have a film that pays the source material such respect.
Maybe not enough to count as an Easter Egg, but when Dredd brings up the photos of the three perps that get skinned at the start, the middle one has a black Union Jack T-shirt on. :D
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 January, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
For anyone who cares, I can confirm the UK blu-ray has a more saturated/contrasty image than the US release.
Interesting. Any reason given, or ideas why this should be, Joe?
Comparing the two photos, the US one does look good. Though im happy enough with the UK version.
Quote from: Judge Jack on 18 January, 2013, 09:15:18 PM
Interesting. Any reason given, or ideas why this should be, Joe?
Ask
Entertainment In Video (http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/dvd/dredd-3d-bluray)
Probably has something to do with NTSC vs. PAL.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 18 January, 2013, 10:30:49 PM
Probably has something to do with NTSC vs. PAL.
The terms NTSC & PAL do not apply to high definition formats. No reason all Blu-Ray discs can't use identical transfers.
Quote from: James Stacey on 18 January, 2013, 08:32:45 AM
For some reason my PS3 isnt playing through the surround sound system at the mo so I had to listen to it through the tv speakers. I had the same effect with the bass sounds vibrating massively. I moved the wii sensor bars and everything in case they were affecting it. Glad its not just my new tv has rattly speakers :)
Fixed it, so with any luck the same might work for you. Bring up the pop-up on-screen menu during playback (it's the triangle button if you're using a normal controller) and find the volume control on it. Reduce the volume output from the PS3 to around -2 or -3 (I think it goes from about -5 to +5) and increase the volume on your TV to compensate. Worked for me anyway, I have perfectly clear sound now. Strange that I haven't had to make adjustments for any other discs though.
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 19 January, 2013, 12:40:57 AM
Strange that I haven't had to make adjustments for any other discs though.
The sound on Dredd is the most dynamic I've heard on a Blu-Ray.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2013, 01:09:11 AM
The sound on Dredd is the most dynamic I've heard on a Blu-Ray.
That's right, rub our extra enjoyment in poor Goatys face!
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 January, 2013, 01:48:06 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2013, 01:09:11 AM
The sound on Dredd is the most dynamic I've heard on a Blu-Ray.
That's right, rub our extra enjoyment in poor Goatys face!
I hear he's a
feeler.
This is the best quote we could ever have hoped for and should be on every piece of promotion for this film from this moment on:
"If you love your children, protect them from this movie." - Jim Bray, Canada Free Press
(http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52475)
I wonder if he was being ironic?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2013, 01:58:30 AM
"If you love your children, protect them from this movie." - Jim Bray, Canada Free Press
(http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52475)
I actually quite enjoyed that review, for some reason I can't figure out.
Another cracker from it:
QuoteSpeaking of Ma-Ma (Lena Headey), about the only positive thing I found in Dredd was that the villain wasn't your usual evil male. In this case, it's an evil non-male.....
Might try that one out with the wife later - see how I get on.
Cheers Mark. It's an excuse to watch it again. Ideally I'm going to work out why the hell the amp isn't working with the ps3 then i'll really crank it up.
Quote from: DaveGYNWA on 19 January, 2013, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2013, 01:58:30 AM
"If you love your children, protect them from this movie." - Jim Bray, Canada Free Press
(http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52475)
I actually quite enjoyed that review, for some reason I can't figure out.
Another cracker from it:
QuoteSpeaking of Ma-Ma (Lena Headey), about the only positive thing I found in Dredd was that the villain wasn't your usual evil male. In this case, it's an evil non-male.....
Might try that one out with the wife later - see how I get on.
..yeah, and eh, I'm not sure where his plot hole came from regarding how they got out of the building.. Just like that other review somewhere that goes on about TWO car chases..
The sound is fantastic, although my set-up struggled with the bass. It's my own fault, I've no sub at the moment so I'm upping the bass on other channels to compensate, and when the Lawmaster roared by my speakers sounded anguished! Great 5.1 mix.
Finally got a chance to watch the whole blu-ray last night and can't get over how cool it is to own the movie, it was my 6th viewing and one of the most enjoyable so far. It's holding up so well to repeat viewings.
No 3D tv for me so watched the 2D. The extra clarity and detail of seeing it in 1080p and without the tinted glasses on is magnificent, I was all for the 3D in the cinema and felt it added a lot, but I definitely found the brighter scenes far more eye popping and the Mega City One exterior stuff was actually way more exciting. I think the vibrancy of the colors maybe adds a lot more to those shots than the 3D did.
One criticism (and it's pretty minor, I'm thrilled to own this thing) is that the picture quality swings from amazing to actually quite poor from shot to shot sometimes and I found that a little distracting. Not sure if it's the result of different cameras being used, but anything that was well lit looked utterly gorgeous and better than ever, but in a lot of interior scenes the blacks look quite rotten. I like a bit of grain, but this isn't grain, it looks more like the result of compression to me so I'm wondering if it's a trade-off for fitting both versions on one disc. It's an effect you see a lot when streaming HD content or watching a downloaded video, but not something I've ever noticed in a blu-ray to be honest. Intrigued to see what the 3D version looks like and if the 2D transfer has just been compressed a bit too aggressively to fit on there.
It's likely not even something I'll notice on repeat viewings though, and just the joy of being able to watch this, what I feel to be my favorite movie, anytime I like outweighs any minor quibbles. I am a very happy Dredd fan.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 19 January, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
One criticism (and it's pretty minor, I'm thrilled to own this thing) is that the picture quality swings from amazing to actually quite poor from shot to shot sometimes and I found that a little distracting. Not sure if it's the result of different cameras being used, but anything that was well lit looked utterly gorgeous and better than ever, but in a lot of interior scenes the blacks look quite rotten. I like a bit of grain, but this isn't grain, it looks more like the result of compression to me so I'm wondering if it's a trade-off for fitting both versions on one disc. It's an effect you see a lot when streaming HD content or watching a downloaded video, but not something I've ever noticed in a blu-ray to be honest. Intrigued to see what the 3D version looks like and if the 2D transfer has just been compressed a bit too aggressively to fit on there.
I don't think it is. I think it's digitally added grain on purpose. I had a chance this morning to watch some scenes on the 3-D version and the grain is less noticeable.
The scene where Caleb and MaMa are walking through corridors discussing what to do near the start of the film is not digital grain, it's just pure poor picture quality. It's only a second or so long, but so jarring. :(
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 19 January, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
I don't think it is. I think it's digitally added grain on purpose. I had a chance this morning to watch some scenes on the 3-D version and the grain is less noticeable.
In that case me might be talking about different things. The effect I'm seeing definitely isn't grain, definitely wasn't present in any of the cinema screenings I went to and really isn't the kind of thing you would deliberately add.
I'm not complaining (well I guess I am a little), there are still places where it looks as good if not better than any other blu-ray I've seen.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 19 January, 2013, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 19 January, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
I don't think it is. I think it's digitally added grain on purpose. I had a chance this morning to watch some scenes on the 3-D version and the grain is less noticeable.
In that case me might be talking about different things. The effect I'm seeing definitely isn't grain, definitely wasn't present in any of the cinema screenings I went to and really isn't the kind of thing you would deliberately add.
I'm not complaining (well I guess I am a little), there are still places where it looks as good if not better than any other blu-ray I've seen.
Taken from http://www.doblu.com/2013/01/10/dredd-bluray-review/
"Then, there is the noise. Noise on this level should be almost impossible. For Dredd, it undoubtedly has a purpose to grime up the visuals with coarseness and rough it up to match the lead character. That makes sense, although it often leads to banding – or is even forcefully removed through noise reduction methods – sapping the definition. Lionsgate can issue endless new encodes for this through the years, and it will never look anything like reality. At times, it's more like security camera footage, but certainly the compression to Blu-ray is not helping. It's one more layer to become caught up in the mess."
I still maintain it's deliberate.
And from here; http://www.avforums.com/movies/Dredd-3D-review_11138/blu-ray.html
This UK region B release from EIV contains both 3D and 2D versions of Dredd on the one disc. The 2.35:1 film is intentionally grubby-looking. It has a hazy contrast that reflects both the sweltering, smoggy environment and a gritty texture of urban squalor. Yet the image is also very detailed and deeply evocative, and painted with gaudy, mud-thickened neon, reminiscent of a Tony Scott production, like Domino, say, in many ways. It was shot partly with the Red One MX, Phantom Flex and Silicon Imaging cameras, which enables fantastic clarity in close-ups and during either real-time action scenes or those captured during Slo-Mo set-piece scenarios. Grain has been clearly introduced at a later time, and exists in varying degrees throughout – smooth, slight and never obtrusive in the 3D, but often appearing as horrible mosquito noise in the 2D, and to the point of irritating distraction at times. Neither version suffers from overt sharpening, and there is only one real trace of banding, which is minimal, though possibly more noticeable in the 2D image.
Watched it again last night, and one of the most noticeable scenes where quality switches for no reason is when one perp gets pulled into the lift and then Dredd pops out and shoots the second in the head. The picture quality when the two perps turn towards the arriving lift is truly terrible, like VHS quality. Then, for no reason at all, it immediately switches to super HD quality.
Same scene, same people, same sequence, absolutely no justification for a deliberate change in picture quality. Dredd has both the best HD and the worst standard definition I've seen, often seconds apart, it's ludicrous.
I'm sorry, I love this film, (I've watched the Bluray 3 times in 3 days!) but in my opinion this is as big a mess up as the marketing calamity when it was in the cinema. The only plus is that people will only discover this flaw AFTER they have bought the disc.
I'll post this again as it was a while back and it related to picture quality of the UK Blu-Ray:
Rather disappointed with the picture quality of the UK Blu-Ray too.
Not sure if it's due to a poor master sourced by Rntertainment In Video.
It seems to replicate an anomaly I experienced at my frequent cinema visits. I saw the film 8 times at a Cineworld cinema and each time the Real D 3D picture quality was fine, aside from some slight ghosting.
However, when I caught it at an Odeon cinema in what I believe was standard 3D (with the goggles) in London, there was noticeably less ghosting but the amount of grain was considerably worse.
any theories?
had to turn the contrast and colour down on my TV before the film was watchable.
This breakdown related to the Blu-Ray playing in 3D. Having watched it again in 3D, with the tweaked settings on my TV, I must amend my initial criticisms and say the film is fine, if a little grainy. Having watched it for the first time in 2D I must say that said grain is considerably reduced.
As if proof was needed :thumbsup:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_JcRuCUAEnJOu.jpg:large)
Good list - I have all but 18 of them :lol:
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 19 January, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
I don't think it is. I think it's digitally added grain on purpose. I had a chance this morning to watch some scenes on the 3-D version and the grain is less noticeable.
The grain that's added is fine but there are shots in low-light that have more digital noise. The shoot used two different types of cameras, REDs and the SI-2K surveillance cameras (as part of a handheld 3D rig). The REDs would have more dynamic range than the SI-2Ks so it does become noticeable in darker shots. You'll see shots within certain scenes where the grain/noise structure increases. It bothers some more than others.
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 19 January, 2013, 03:05:07 PM
I'm sorry, I love this film, (I've watched the Bluray 3 times in 3 days!) but in my opinion this is as big a mess up as the marketing calamity when it was in the cinema. The only plus is that people will only discover this flaw AFTER they have bought the disc.
Nothing to do with the Blu-ray transfer, that's how the film was shot and nothing can change that.
I think we are all missing the point here - how come Flash Gordon is on that list??
A new special version out, or some new reinvention?
I never noticed it in the 5 times I saw it at the cinema, strange.
I wonder if having more non 3d showings would have helped the box office given the DVDs seemingly great performance--- I was forced to go by myself to a 3D when it became clear there wasnt much 2D action (a few friends who ahd been enthusiastic couldnt face the 3D,,,)
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 19 January, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
I never noticed it in the 5 times I saw it at the cinema, strange.
If you were watching a stereo-image with dark glasses it wouldn't be too noticeable.
No way! Flash Gorden at 12? Must be Ted's doing..
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 19 January, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
I never noticed it in the 5 times I saw it at the cinema, strange.
Nah. Me neither. Though there was a shot in the Japanese trailer which looked horrifically bad.
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Quote from: Fisticuffs on 19 January, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
I never noticed it in the 5 times I saw it at the cinema, strange.
If you were watching a stereo-image with dark glasses it wouldn't be too noticeable.
Is the answer to those that saw a 3-D version at the flicks.
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 19 January, 2013, 11:12:38 AM
The scene where Caleb and MaMa are walking through corridors discussing what to do near the start of the film is not digital grain, it's just pure poor picture quality. It's only a second or so long, but so jarring. :(
Yes, thats the scene that really jarred for me as well. My biggest worry was that EIV had released a bunch of faulty discs, but though disconcerting - to a degree, its obviously (he says - im no expert..) a delibrate stylistic choice by the producers.
Having only seen the film in 3D, ive not recollection of it looking like this in the cinema, and i guess the only way to say for sure is to compare with a pirate copy?
The Lionsgate US BR has the same effect on that shot, it's not even the whole scene, just one particular shot.
But we got a brilliant action film...
Quote from: Goaty on 19 January, 2013, 07:32:34 PM
But we got a brilliant action film...
True! I love it, but nothing is perfect. :)
I order two blu-rays, as I thought I might play the first one a lot! I was meant to get them on Monday, but missed the post. It looks like someone at the post office has been playing them, because they couldn't find them when I went to pick them up.
Gave in to the urge on Wednesday and downloaded it on iTunes.
I can't really see 3D, so it seemed even better than when I saw it at the pictures - less distracting, so I could focus on the rest of the film. Seeing new stuff each time - great movie!
Quote from: Leigh S on 19 January, 2013, 06:20:57 PM
I think we are all missing the point here - how come Flash Gordon is on that list??
A new special version out, or some new reinvention?
Saw it at Sainsburys for cheap, and then Sam J Jones of Flash Gordon fame had a role in Ted.. Making a lot of folks want to see FG, I suppose. I know I did..
Mark Commode has just been n the Beeb reviewing Dredd,he said it's a much better film on home cinema,he enjoyed it more the second time around etc...What was interesting was the presenter said to him that ''It has had great week'' and Commode replied that it has had a phenomenal week or words to that effect.
Sequel time!!
Before I buy 3D specs for my TV does the 3D play on the PS3?
V
Not counting my chickens but I'm crossing my fingers.
And yeah PS3 are 3D capable but I don't know about glasses or if it's any good?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_4DQCoX_zY
I just want to know how the Dredd film pans out on a 3D TV. I don't want to fork out for specs if it shit through the PS3 as I am not really interested in 3D TV.
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 January, 2013, 02:13:58 PM
I just want to know how the Dredd film pans out on a 3D TV. I don't want to fork out for specs if it shit through the PS3 as I am not really interested in 3D TV.
Do you even have a 3D TV? Normally the come with the 3D glasses. Using 3D glasses on a normal TV won't work.
Poped into ASDA this afternoon to get a few nick nacks for the week's dinners. On wednesday there where 8 copys of Dredd on BD (and more behind the counter, piles of them) and at least double that in DVD's. All the BD's where gone today and the DVD's had less than a third of there intial numbers left. The Lawless DVD pile was unchained in the same period of time. Good times.
The sound is right dodgy on my copy - particularly in the scene where the Ma Ma clan lay waste to the quadrant with the massive guns. Dunno if it's just my TV (which is pretty modern and high end) but the sound just dipped massively, as if the low frequency's of the guns or whatever wasn't mastered properly. Anyone else notice this?
Didn't ruin my enjoyment though, in fact the first time I watched it at home was the most enjoyable!
Should've checked where I was posting, mines a DVD! #minesapint
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 20 January, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
Mark Commode has just been n the Beeb reviewing Dredd,he said it's a much better film on home cinema,he enjoyed it more the second time around etc...What was interesting was the presenter said to him that ''It has had great week'' and Commode replied that it has had a phenomenal week or words to that effect.
Good that his opinion has evolved over multiple reviews. I think he's earned himself a Kermode. Barely.
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 20 January, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
Mark Commode has just been n the Beeb reviewing Dredd,he said it's a much better film on home cinema,he enjoyed it more the second time around etc...What was interesting was the presenter said to him that ''It has had great week'' and Commode replied that it has had a phenomenal week or words to that effect.
Anyone know what show this was on and whether its on iplayer?
It was on BBC new 24,not long after Click finished if I remember.
Find all the % figures a bit confusing, but I think this article says that Dredd sold almost double the amount of units as the no.2 Blu Ray, Frankenweenie, in the US this week. Though I think that's only counting 2D sales for Frankenweenie (not sure why all these charts only count Dredd as a 2D release...?
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=10285
Would be interesting to know how much money it made last week.
Quote from: radiator on 20 January, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
Find all the % figures a bit confusing, but I think this article says that Dredd sold almost double the amount of units as the no.2 Blu Ray, Frankenweenie, in the US this week. Though I think that's only counting 2D sales for Frankenweenie (not sure why all these charts only count Dredd as a 2D release...?
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=10285
It means that it had a 48% Blu-ray/High-Def share of what it sold, Frankenweenie was only slightly behind what Dredd was selling.
Quote from: radiator on 20 January, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 20 January, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
Mark Commode has just been n the Beeb reviewing Dredd,he said it's a much better film on home cinema,he enjoyed it more the second time around etc...What was interesting was the presenter said to him that ''It has had great week'' and Commode replied that it has had a phenomenal week or words to that effect.
Anyone know what show this was on and whether its on iplayer?
9 minutes and 30 seconds in,
HERE (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21088769). He does a splendid job of listing what it has going for it without actually saying he likes it. Viewer reaction in the few weeks after his casual dismissal of the film on his radio show amounted to Mayo reading around five-to-ten minutes of readers' letters telling him how wrong he was about both
Dredd and
Brave, and Kermode seems to have caved to the weight and strength of listener opinion on both films.
We get a mention on this week's show (19 minutes and thirty seconds
HERE (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21088769)), which makes me think we've traumatised the poor guy.
Sorry, the second link - to this week's Kermode and Mayo - should have been THIS (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pw6jg/Kermode_and_Mayos_Film_Review_with_Kathryn_Bigelow_and_Mark_Strong/). Nineteen minutes and thirty seconds in.
Yeah thats the one.
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 20 January, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 January, 2013, 02:13:58 PM
I just want to know how the Dredd film pans out on a 3D TV. I don't want to fork out for specs if it shit through the PS3 as I am not really interested in 3D TV.
Do you even have a 3D TV? Normally the come with the 3D glasses. Using 3D glasses on a normal TV won't work.
If I didn't have a 3D TV I wouldn't be asking. I got my 3D TV for a bargain. If I had bought it with the glasses it would have been an extra £150.
V
Quote from: sauchie on 20 January, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Sorry, the second link - to this week's Kermode and Mayo - should have been THIS (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pw6jg/Kermode_and_Mayos_Film_Review_with_Kathryn_Bigelow_and_Mark_Strong/). Nineteen minutes and thirty seconds in.
A remarkable turnaround by MK, it has to be said!
Sales are looking excellent so far. There is some justice to the world after all!
lovely review from AVFORUMS
http://www.avforums.com/movies/Dredd-3D-review_11138/movie.html
A well written and thought out review, a true pleasure to read. :)
A buddy on Facebook posted this: "No bull shit. Bought Dredd at Best Buy. Went to watch it Saturday night with the lady. Doesn't play in EITHER of my Blu-ray players. Took back to Best Buy to exchange... they're Out Of Stock. Every location withing 50 miles is out. Best Buy refunded my money. Had to order it off of Amazon. Apparently Best Buys are having issues with their run of discs. Not all, but a fair number have been returned. So.... I still have yet to see Dredd. I will soon."
Selling like hot cakes!
Yes!... go USA :D
Watched again on Saturday. Nice to see it in good old 2d rather than the 3d I saw at the cinema.
Its not often I want to watch a film again straight away, but I did with Dredd. Simply marvellous.
Love the little nods for fans (Spotted Kryslers Mark!) and the odd moments of picture quality drop passed completely unnoticed.
I now have to get a new AV receiver to hear it in HD DTS as my clunky old system only does 5.1 Dolby Digital. It converts DTS to prologic......but does it very badly so you have to keep leaping for the volume control. I'll be off to Richer Sounds shortly, I s'pose. :-)
It's now #1 on UK iTunes..
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 January, 2013, 07:36:43 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 20 January, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 January, 2013, 02:13:58 PM
I just want to know how the Dredd film pans out on a 3D TV. I don't want to fork out for specs if it shit through the PS3 as I am not really interested in 3D TV.
Do you even have a 3D TV? Normally the come with the 3D glasses. Using 3D glasses on a normal TV won't work.
If I didn't have a 3D TV I wouldn't be asking. I got my 3D TV for a bargain. If I had bought it with the glasses it would have been an extra £150.
V
I take it you bought an active 3-D tv and not a passive 3-D tv?
My passive 3-D tv cost £400 (42 inch) and came with 4 pairs of glasses.
Active glasses are much more expensive.
If it's a passive TV you can get the glasses for £5 each.
Dependant on the TV active glasses really aren't that expensive any more. Samsung active glasses are around £15 or were last time I looked.
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 22 January, 2013, 09:56:10 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 January, 2013, 07:36:43 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 20 January, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 20 January, 2013, 02:13:58 PM
I just want to know how the Dredd film pans out on a 3D TV. I don't want to fork out for specs if it shit through the PS3 as I am not really interested in 3D TV.
Do you even have a 3D TV? Normally the come with the 3D glasses. Using 3D glasses on a normal TV won't work.
If I didn't have a 3D TV I wouldn't be asking. I got my 3D TV for a bargain. If I had bought it with the glasses it would have been an extra £150.
I take it you bought an active 3-D tv and not a passive 3-D tv?
My passive 3-D tv cost £400 (42 inch) and came with 4 pairs of glasses.
Active glasses are much more expensive.
If it's a passive TV you can get the glasses for £5 each.
Yes it's an active 3D. Can get 4 pairs for 70 notes. but as I say not really interested in the 3D aspect but will buy just for Dredd 3D.
So is the 3D viewing through the PS3 any good? Anyone?
V
I've run some 3D games through it on a passive screen.. Worked.. All I can say really.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 24 January, 2013, 09:12:31 AM
I've run some 3D games through it on a passive screen.. Worked.. All I can say really.
Cheers. Still mulling it over though.
V
I've now watched it on my phone over several daily commutes. It's really an exercise in horrifying any sticky beaks looking over my shoulder to see what I'm watching.
It was awesome by the way!
Quote from: vzzbux on 24 January, 2013, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 24 January, 2013, 09:12:31 AM
I've run some 3D games through it on a passive screen.. Worked.. All I can say really.
Cheers. Still mulling it over though.
V
Same here.. Debating getting one upon return to Blighty..
Tip, extras pretty poo as I expected but loved the film even more 2nd time round! My gf said I was grinning like a Cheshire Cat all the way through, never thought I'd say it though....missed the 3D! Seen more and more names from the forum, quality!
My Dredd Blu - Ray arrived yesterday morning.
I'll be watching it tonight.
According to whats written on the back.........
It has a Special Features section with the titles........
Dredd 2000AD The Original
Slo-Mo
Welcome To Peachtrees
The Third Dimension
Dredd's Gear
Dredd interviews With Cast And Crew.
The extras aren't very good - The 'interviews' one for example just seems to stitch together all the snippets already seen in the other features into one disjointed sequence.
One bit of editting that really made me laugh though was in the first one. Recalling the launch of 2000ad, John Wagner says "I said [to Pat Mills] the one thing you don't have in your line-up is a tough future cop" - cut to Urban as Dredd: "Well, you've got one now!"
Yeah the extras are a bit weak, which is a shame.
But watched the film again, and loved every minute. And still seeing little bit and bobs that ive missed.
Perfect running time as well.
Extras schmextras... though woulda been nice if they had put on a bit about judge Minty like Alex wanted.
I watched the film today with my father on the Blue Ray player out in the lounge room and the the sound was awful.
About one quarter of the way into the film, there was static coming through with the sound, and then not long after the sound was chopped up and sometimes out of sync with the film.
It was like this for the rest of the film and it made the film unwatchable.
I couldn't follow it at all.
My dad was not impressed.
I then watched the film on another Blue Ray player that we own and this time it was perfect.
I don't know what the problem was as the first Blue Ray player we used plays other Blue Rays perfectly.
There have been complaints like this on the Amazon discussion pages. It seems that if your Blurays software/drivers/whatever are not up to date then it struggles with Dredd, I assume because Dredd is a very recently released disk.
Two new reviews, one from a work colleague, one from my dad.
Colleague: Meh
Dad: Boring
You can't win 'em all I guess, but at least they bought the DVD! :D
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 30 January, 2013, 10:31:18 AM
Two new reviews, one from a work colleague, one from my dad.
Colleague: Meh
Dad: Boring
You can't win 'em all I guess, but at least they bought the DVD! :D
That's not so bad. It's at least better than the reaction I got from a mate who I recommended it to. His response was "That was the worst, most unrealistic shit I've ever seen." His opinion and argument was ludicrous to the extent where it actually got me a little bit pissed off. I stated it was a classic 80's style actioner, to which his response was "80's?! What are you on about 80?! They had guns with all this mad shit on them, and futuristic bikes and flying things in the air and stuff!" I face palmed. This is what I was arguing with. Also coming from a person, who when being critical of Dredd for lack of realism, said it was nothing compared to the new Batman's. Yeah, like those are super realistic. In fact, I was going to argue that Dredd's world and the premise of Judges coming into existence after a nuclear war and society collapse and imposing a fascist regime of law is arguably the most realistic of any comic book premise out there, but I didn't want to go into one.
Jeez, there's no discussion with folk like that. Don't bother, I say! On the plus side, the colleague who said 'meh' yesterday? He bought case files 5 today. :D
The handful of geek-friendly people I know (basically all my male friends) are one by one admitting finally getting to see it and "yeah you were right, it was really good" - but they didn't get their arses in gear when I was telling 'em to! At least they have the decency to look slightly ashamed of themselves. At least when I've finished with them.
Most of my close friends are women though who just look at me with sad expressions I whenever I talk about stuff like this.
A couple of my mates turned their noses up at it initially, then one of them - who is a bit of a snob tbh - showed an interest in it only after it got four stars in Little White Lies. ::)
Funnily enough he had no problem going to see The Raid earlier in the year, but I suppose that's different because it counts as foreign cinema and has subtitles.
Another of my colleagues watched it last night. Her verdict was 'It made me feel sick.'
Result! :lol:
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 31 January, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
Another of my colleagues watched it last night. Her verdict was 'It made me feel sick.'
Result! :lol:
success!! :lol:
My friend recommended Looper which l got round to watching last night. I slagged it off before seeing it as it was direct competition to Dredd. It turned out to be a great movie and looked good. A similar setting and tone to our movie. I see why Dredd lost out on seats to this. With Willis at the helm the American audience opted for this movie. I wonder if it was Willis under tthe helmet in Dredd whether it would have been more successful in the States?
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 January, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
My friend recommended Looper which l got round to watching last night. I slagged it off before seeing it as it was direct competition to Dredd. It turned out to be a great movie and looked good. A similar setting and tone to our movie. I see why Dredd lost out on seats to this. With Willis at the helm the American audience opted for this movie. I wonder if it was Willis under tthe helmet in Dredd whether it would have been more successful in the States?
Or (God forbid) Jason 'Wooded' Statham.
"O'white, Mama! Hao do ya facking pleed, you ol' cant!"
Somehow a cockney Dredd might have went down a storm over there. Who knows.
:D Now that would have been one to see :lol:
Finally got round to watching MY copy of Dredd. I think I have a duff one. On quite a few occasions a few of the scenes seem disjointed and on the darker scenes some of the characters seem to have a blue haze to them.
I have the settings in 2D on both TV and Blue ray. Has anyone else had this problem. I am sending this back to amazon tomorrow.
V
The audio appears to test my old Trinitron to the limit. Though I tend to use headphones so I can damage my hearing to the full max without bothering the neighbours. It's a little better with them off.
Well, it's hit the shelves rather unspectacularly here in SA.. A promising 'sold out' of Blu-ray Discs was actually supposed to be 'haven't actually received bluray stock'.. Idiots. You'd think that they'd promote it a bit more seeing as it was made here.. Bah..
I finally started watching the Blu-ray on my new PS3 today. (I made sure the software on the machine was uptodate.)
I say 'started' because my dad came home shortly after it had started. Actually, it's the type of film my dad would probably quite enjoy but I feel a bit embarrassed about introducing my Dad to sweary stuff (not that it's that bad, but there's that sexual bit, albeit it's suggested rather than explicit but it's pretty obvious what's going on.) Daft thing is I don't have much difficult watching that sort of thing with him if we came across the programme/film and hadn't seen it before but if I'm the one introducing it... I find that a bit uncomfortable. Gore and ultra violence, not so much. Illogical and silly I know.
Anyway, our TV isn't 3D so I watched the standard HD version. It looked pretty good. I think I saw a bit of the grain that some people mentioned but it wasn't particularly noticeable unless a) you're looking for it and b) you look close. Certainly no sorse than you see on SD and it was definitely better than that. This suggests maybe it was meant to look that way. It didn't spoil the film at all.
I think I noticed a bit of flickering during the panning shot across the Cursed Earth up to the city wall, at the start. I rewound it later and didn't see it, which makes me wonder if I imagined it.
Quote from: dracula1 on 31 January, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
My friend recommended Looper which l got round to watching last night. I slagged it off before seeing it as it was direct competition to Dredd. It turned out to be a great movie and looked good. A similar setting and tone to our movie. I see why Dredd lost out on seats to this. With Willis at the helm the American audience opted for this movie. I wonder if it was Willis under tthe helmet in Dredd whether it would have been more successful in the States?
Here in the US Looper got better coverage from the advertisements as well as reviews from both newspapers and online sites. I guess it helps too having Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Bruce Willis being familiar actors.
Lot of the newspapers and such here either did not cover Dredd or gave it a bad review.
Quote from: Mardroid on 04 February, 2013, 05:34:28 PM
I finally started watching the Blu-ray on my new PS3 today. (I made sure the software on the machine was uptodate.)
I say 'started' because my dad came home shortly after it had started. Actually, it's the type of film my dad would probably quite enjoy but I feel a bit embarrassed about introducing my Dad to sweary stuff (not that it's that bad, but there's that sexual bit, albeit it's suggested rather than explicit but it's pretty obvious what's going on.) Daft thing is I don't have much difficult watching that sort of thing with him if we came across the programme/film and hadn't seen it before but if I'm the one introducing it... I find that a bit uncomfortable. Gore and ultra violence, not so much. Illogical and silly I know.
Anyway, our TV isn't 3D so I watched the standard HD version. It looked pretty good. I think I saw a bit of the grain that some people mentioned but it wasn't particularly noticeable unless a) you're looking for it and b) you look close. Certainly no sorse than you see on SD and it was definitely better than that. This suggests maybe it was meant to look that way. It didn't spoil the film at all.
I think I noticed a bit of flickering during the panning shot across the Cursed Earth up to the city wall, at the start. I rewound it later and didn't see it, which makes me wonder if I imagined it.
IMO it would have been interesting to see what your father thought of the movie. Glad to see you liked your copy though, I also watched mine on my PS3.
Quote from: MercZ on 05 February, 2013, 05:21:27 AM
IMO it would have been interesting to see what your father thought of the movie.
It would. I noticed that the sexual bit was actually a bit more explicit than I'd already thought... although out of focus. That passed me by in the cinema!
I ended up watching it in full last night. Despite not being a particularly long film I ended up staying up really late (rewinding bits I missed etc. Then watching most of the documentaries.* Not a good idea since I had to be up early to work today... ).
Overall looked smashing, although the cinema 3D certainly added to the experience. I didn't see any more of that flickering. I think I might have actually enjoyed the story a bit more this time. And I certainly noticed something else that I missed the first time (apart from the sexy bit above):
[spoiler]Basically, when I saw it the first time I didn't twig that the guy being tortured by Mama in her introductory scene was none other than the tech kid with the bionic eyes... and we were seeing how he got that way. Brrr.[/spoiler]
*Small but all good. A bit more would have been welcome but it was okay. I loved the cutaway CG model of the lawgiver by the way, showing how it was built up from a 9mm pistol and the logic behind the round loading, etc.
I'm guessing that bit was an example of them having to re-use footage to make the film longer.
Just watched it again and I swear there's some dialogue missing.
When Dredd [spoiler]throws off the balcony, I could've sworn(no pun intended!) that he said"Fuck you MaMa!".He doesn't say it on my blu ray-did I imagine it??[/spoiler]
You most definitely imagined it. That scene wouldn't be as powerful if he said anything, at all.
Yep, you imagined it. Not only would it have made the scene less memorable, it wouldn't be something I'd imagine Dredd to even do anyway.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 February, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
You most definitely imagined it. That scene wouldn't be as powerful if he said anything, at all.
Cheers!
Note to oneself-book in for full psychic evaluation first thing on Monday!
No cinema release for the French, so they got this (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=7120171&postcount=73) instead:
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Seriously, there's like over a million people in France. I don't understand why it wasn't released there.
Nice DVD though.
Dredd Lionsgate US Blu-ray vs Dredd Metropolitan FR 2D Blu-ray screen-shot comparison shows Dredd Metropolitan FR 2D Blu-ray has got more picture information on both sides (wider) and is less bright but sharper than 3D release:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=5019
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=5117
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=5525
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=5010
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=5014
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=5124
Subtitles are not forced on the French release.
Weird. Overall, I don't think I like that darker version though.
The picture quality is better on the French release with more detail and sharper. If you want to brighten the image it can be your own choice at home but if it's brightened beforehand during transfer and with contrast added, you lose detail that you won't get back by trying to bring it down.
Mine is on its way, or so the translation said!
Three discs? Elaborate.
Quote from: Noisybast on 10 February, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
Three discs? Elaborate.
I have a few single movie boxsets from Criterion that have 6 discs for a single film. Three is cute.
Forced 8 people to see it in the cinema. 6 of those loved it, 1 found it too funny and the last one thought it was too violent.
Made (yeah, they're now "made" in my opinion) around 20 watch it since the release on home video. Everyone liked it very much :).
QuoteNo cinema release for the French, so they got this instead:
Right, that's it. I've ordered a copy.
Looks fucking wicked, and the inclusion of a DVD copy, a little booklet*
and superior picture quality is more than enough to justify it to myself.
*should point out that the booklet is exclusive to the retailer FNAC (French HMV equivalent), so I have ordered from them rather than Amazon.fr.
Cop, judge, executioner?
Dear Grud, thats one seriously nice looking package the French are getting.
Waiting for me despatch email form importCD's. Excited I am. :lol:
They've got to do a version like that in English, looks rad.
I'm not usually one for multiple versions, but I've just ordered that French one from FNAC - which also allowed me a free* customised T-shirt, so I quickly scanned in a cool Dredd pic.
* well, if you don't count €5 delivery.
So who's bought the most different versions so far? - CF, I'm looking at you!
The first one of the French discs has landed and it's bloody gorgeous. In the back of the comic booklet is an advert for the Case Files and the cover for number 3 is superb. I'm presuming it's a French artist, as I don't recognise the picture at all, which is by O.Pepu or Peru!
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2013, 03:15:20 PM
The first one of the French discs has landed and it's bloody gorgeous. In the back of the comic booklet is an advert for the Case Files and the cover for number 3 is superb. I'm presuming it's a French artist, as I don't recognise the picture at all, which is by O.Pepu or Peru!
OI! I'm the DVD afficionado! You have no right to have a copy first, I demand you retract your statement and wait until I give you permision to agree with my own sentiments!....I'm not bloody jealous right! :lol:
Here are a couple of pics (just waiting for the FNAC one to arrive now)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC6loU0CQAAvQWN.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC6mZ0kCEAEYSCQ.jpg)
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 12 February, 2013, 03:15:20 PM
The first one of the French discs has landed and it's bloody gorgeous. In the back of the comic booklet is an advert for the Case Files and the cover for number 3 is superb. I'm presuming it's a French artist, as I don't recognise the picture at all, which is by O.Pepu or Peru!
Interesting. A quick visit to French Amazon (http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85Z%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=dredd+integrale&rh=n%3A301061%2Ck%3Adredd+integrale) shows that they all have new covers. Perhaps Vark would be the man to shed some light on who's drawn these.
Those French collections have MUCH better coverart than the, IMO, crap designed UK coverart and even crappier US artwork.
Dredd 3D Steel Tin / Metal Tin Blu-ray Review (http://www.versatile-mag.fr/2013/02/dredd-dvd-blu-ray-metropolitan-video/)
Or rather the vid:
Dredd 3D Steel Tin / Metal Tin Blu-ray Review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-VR5vhaxJk)
I think the middle cover would make a good one for a special edition if they ever do a english version.
Still no sign of the bluray here in SA..
My Metropolitan Dredd box set just arrived - sadly the metal tin is rather bashed up and quite badly dented on front and back (hopefully a bit of gentle hammering will go some way to restoring it), and though I got the booklet - which is really just an ad for the French 'Integrale' (Case Files) and is itself tainted by an ad for that STALLONE bloke's new flop - it doesn't have the character descriptions in the the booklet in the earlier picture, which is odd.
It's bloody massive though - probably around 70-80% bigger than an ordinary DVD/Blu Ray case and will dominate my Blu Ray shelf which is as it should be. Shame there's no film title on the spine.
i think the booklet may only come with the FNAC exclusive sold in store? anybody get one from the FNAC website?? did it have a booklet?
I ordered from FNAC specifically for this reason and didn't get it so it must be in-store only.
Meant to say, the Metropolitan tin packaging is bigger than a VHS case(!) - absolutely mental, never seen anything like it, will post a comparison pic with the standard Blu if I get time.
Yeah, it's like a biscuit tin.
QuoteYeah, it's like a biscuit tin.
That's exactly what it's like!
As well as arriving in a pretty bashed up state, the top hinge just fell apart, which is a bit of a fucker.
Anyway, here's the pic:(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/15/agabujyd.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/15/e9apyged.jpg)
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2013, 09:09:07 AM
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Mine's still not arrived. Bloody thing might have been caught at customs! :'( >:(
It does look great mind, love me a steel tin.
Yeah I hear even the tins sent from amazon.fr in good packaging (unlike fnac) are suffering from scratched backs even though they're clingfilmed. You can also see on you youtube clip posted earlier a guy unboxing his and commenting that that inside case is a bit bashed. The French edition is a nice idea but I don't buy discs for the packaging, and certainly not when there's a good chance that packaging will be damaged. YMMV.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 15 January, 2013, 04:32:16 PM
Anyone notice the blood doesn't leave the frame on the blu-ray the way it did in cinemas? I know it was probably done to enhance the 3D effect (and worked a treat) but wouldn't have thought there'd be any harm in keeping it in.
Glad I'm not the only one to notice this :)
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 16 January, 2013, 12:12:28 AM
My god, overall the quality of the 3D is even better than that of the cinema. There was only one exception that I could see - the exploding cheek. I'm sure some of the blood sprayed past the black border bottom right in the cinema. On the Blu-ray it didn't. It disappeared behind the edge of the frame. A small gripe, 'cos the rest was brilliant!
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 16 January, 2013, 07:51:24 AM
Wasn't the blood splash outside the screen achieved in the cinema simply by introducing a 'fake' border at the bottom of the screen in black and the letting the blood go over that? It didn't actually 'leave' the frame, it looks as though they didn't bother doing this for the Bluray.
Yup, in the cinema black bars aren't usually in place, they just scale the movie to the screen and use the curtains. However, proper screenings of DREDD 3D had a safe area of black letterboxing to allow certain particle effects to appear to leave the screen, like so;
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3152/drddemo.jpg)
I wonder if this is somehow not allowed by the DVD and Blu-ray specification? I can't think of a disc that has anything break the border of a screen ratio in this way. At least all editions seem to be the same in this respect and aside from this forum, I've not seen anywhere else even notice :)
Quote from: alyd on 15 February, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
Yeah I hear even the tins sent from amazon.fr in good packaging (unlike fnac)
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Mine was delivered in two strong boxes from amazon.fr. Can't fault them.
got one from amazon.fr which arrived in excellent condition.also got one coming from a guy in france who got some of the exclusive instore editions.
Oh I'm way to OCD for that French thing. I used to hate the way the large Jurassic Park VHS case ruined the streamlined flow of my video shelf.
I like it - I have quite a few odd-shaped boxed sets and things.
I draw the line at that novelty type packaging though.
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/VkMu50yIzoH1ReGMlfjICA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/blogs/ukiemovies/Scarface-Terminator2.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSo_WpFqvJVYmlyPuX_PX1Wy9vevBe_FT9u6UzjwNEsUssRI_-XnA)
Yeah, I think I'd need a dedicated entertainment room before I bothered with that silliness.
Regarding the breaking the border thing - there'd be nothing to stop them doing it, but I'm guessing that because the 2D shares the 3D transfer they decided to leave it off.
Quote from: radiator on 15 February, 2013, 09:39:12 PM
I like it - I have quite a few odd-shaped boxed sets and things.
I draw the line at that novelty type packaging though.
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/VkMu50yIzoH1ReGMlfjICA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/blogs/ukiemovies/Scarface-Terminator2.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSo_WpFqvJVYmlyPuX_PX1Wy9vevBe_FT9u6UzjwNEsUssRI_-XnA)
I have the Terminator set. It's ace so job done.
I had the Alien head but sold it on when the Alien blu-ray set was released. Lovely set, weighs a nice bit so you know its quality!
My missus has something like that Alien head. Keeps getting me to buy batteries for it for some reason??
I think it's best if we don't tell him.
Not been on here for awhile..any figures on DVD sales?
How's it been going?
I think it's safe to say 'pretty good/stronger than expected'.
It sold 650,000 units in its first week on the US alone.
I also suspect that Dredd will be one of those films that will be a consistent seller for years to come.
Fixed my Dredd tin btw, hinge rod was just a little loose is all !
Watching the BluRay with subtitles on to catch the odd line I'm not totally clear on, and it seems as though every other subtitle is 'Ominous instrumental music'. It's so common it's almost hilarious. :D
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 17 February, 2013, 05:32:03 PM
Watching the BluRay with subtitles on to catch the odd line I'm not totally clear on, and it seems as though every other subtitle is 'Ominous instrumental music'. It's so common it's almost hilarious. :D
Heh, I noticed that as well.
Just received my French copy of Dredd and the colours are definitely knocked back....You can really notice it near the beginning when the perps are up on the view screen (In Red)..In the UK version the features are lost a bit in the red..on the french version they are much clearer...also the blood is darker.....I actually think I prefer the UK version but the box etc are of course much nicer in the French....Oh well...any excuse to watch it again... :D
FINALLY got my 3D bluray copy, and got me a telly at Sainsburys today.. 3D even (£400 LG, passive.. Bloody amazing..)..
Poor TV speakers can't handle the sound, but bugger me with a broomstick and call me lollypop, but the 3D is awesome!
..so instead of just testing the 3D on the telly, as well as if my PS3 was still working, I'm almost finished watching the movie.. ::)
Quote from: Beeks on 16 February, 2013, 09:49:59 PM
Not been on here for awhile..any figures on DVD sales?
Dredd US DVD salesfor Week Ending Jan 13, 2013:
319,934It sold a little more than that amount on Blu-Ray.
http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/thisweek.php
It sold a little more on Blu
So what's the total takings including dvd,blu-ray and cinema, anyone know? Would be nice to know if its broke even and all those involved with this Shit hot film have recovered there money.
You likely won't find out the global total for months, if at all, as there are few published sources for that. There's also the downloads to consider.
Did it make a zillion in Japan yet?
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 February, 2013, 06:19:26 PMPoor TV speakers can't handle the sound, but bugger me with a broomstick and call me lollypop, but the 3D is awesome!
I've noticed the sound on some of these new, flashy TVs is complete cack. My mono DAB radio is better.
Quote from: Stan on 28 February, 2013, 01:21:07 AM
Did it make a zillion in Japan yet?
Quote from: Michaelvk on 27 February, 2013, 06:19:26 PMPoor TV speakers can't handle the sound, but bugger me with a broomstick and call me lollypop, but the 3D is awesome!
I've noticed the sound on some of these new, flashy TVs is complete cack. My mono DAB radio is better.
To be fair, for £400 I wasn't expecting theatre quality.. All the more reason to get a decent surround setup :)
Quote from: Beadle68 on 27 February, 2013, 09:37:21 PM
So what's the total takings including dvd,blu-ray and cinema, anyone know? Would be nice to know if its broke even and all those involved with this Shit hot film have recovered there money.
According to someone I know who was at London Super Comic Con, the panel again nixed chances of a second film unless shiny disc sales are "spectacular". They said they're good right now, but but the film still hasn't made a profit.
Bollocks :(
It's enough to make a grown man weep.
You'd hope (well I would) that someone would see the potential with a) 2D and therefore cheaper tickets with wider reach, b) a 15 rather than 18 certificate, c) a more focussed trailer. Sigh.
Still, nearly $5m of DVD sales is pretty good!
And never forget, we DO have a film and it has truely delivered!
'Clutching at straws' mode very much engaged.
With all the talk of peeps buying the shiny disc, and then bemoaning the fact that they didnt see it on the big screen, Lionsgate need to start a 'You missed it the first time round, dont miss it this time' style campaign and re-release it in the cinema's.
Yeah, but what if they don't go see it because they already watched the DVD a hundred times? I don't think Dredd could take a triple bomb.
There is literally no chance of Dredd getting a cinema rerelease.
Yeah, as much as i'd like to believe people would go see it if they had a second chance, I doubt it.
Especially if they have already seen it on deh ver deh.
Don't know if anyone has already posted this, but Dredd on Blu Ray is currently on sale on Play.com for £10.45, and that's including free delivery...
http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/37743658/Dredd-3D/Product.html?searchstring=dredd&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/37743658/Dredd-3D/Product.html?searchstring=dredd&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search)
Oy.. Being discounted already, huh?
That's what I paid day of release.
On discounting, it's probably worth noting Play.com is now essentially Amazon Marketplace, not a typical store.
Not sure if it's been posted before, but I ran across this just now.. Favourable review..
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dredd-3D-Blu-ray/56292/#Review
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 05 March, 2013, 03:15:54 PM
On discounting, it's probably worth noting Play.com is now essentially Amazon Marketplace, not a typical store.
Ive not been on, or looked at, Play.com since it was announced it was going under.
So whats the score now? Are they still selling off all their stock before finally closing, or are they continuing somehow?
A tenner-ish for Dredd isnt a bad price, think mine cost £12.00 from HMV on the release week, though.
Play's not gone under. The tax loophole regarding the Channel Islands has gone, and the new owners threw in the towel. Rather than compete with Amazon, they've closed the Jersey operation and will continue the company with a skeleton staff in the UK, utilising a 'marketplace' model. In other words, Play becomes like Amazon Marketplace or eBay, where other companies offer things for sale, rather than selling anything directly itself.
OZ Edition (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HikbbcSwKvk)
As soon as he said he preferred the Stallone version I stopped watching ::)
Just received an email informing me that my Oz version is on its way :D
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 March, 2013, 02:43:34 AM
Just received an email informing me that my Oz version is on its way :D
Mine too! :thumbsup:
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 March, 2013, 02:43:34 AM
Just received an email informing me that my Oz version is on its way :D
Third! Chuffed, the cover looks ace. :D
That's certainly much nicer than the UK packaging!
That Oz edition has to be the best cover yet.
The UK one is firmly in last place, compared to all these releases.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 March, 2013, 12:01:05 AM
OZ Edition (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HikbbcSwKvk)
I stopped watching after "..I do prefer the Stallone version".. Looks ace though..
F*&k to the video shop i didn't think this was out till next week.
CU Radbacker
Mine has arrived and it's great, apart from that 15 rated bit >:(
(https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2xhcmdlL2NkZ3JmdC5qcGcUBBYAEgA&s=l_ouOFs_F0m3B1KAkm8u7XT9uOFpB9LuBG4JYJIUVnY)
Sorry if it's been mentioned 17 times but I'm lazy and my scroll wheel finger is sore, where are people getting the Oz version of the Dredd blu ray from ?
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 March, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Mine has arrived and it's great, apart from that 15 rated bit >:(
Was it cut for its release in OZ, or do they just have a more liberal rating system over there?
I pre-ordered mine from JB Hi-Fi, an Australian store but there was one on eBay the other day.
Thanks CF. Ill take a goosey. I assumed amazon.au would be the place but they appear not to exist.
Got mine from here.
Had great service from the past:
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/search?q=Dredd&t=all
Quote from: Judge Jack on 22 March, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 March, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Mine has arrived and it's great, apart from that 15 rated bit >:(
Was it cut for its release in OZ, or do they just have a more liberal rating system over there?
Probably because it wasn't quite enough for a R18+, reserved for films that have strong sexual content (some maybe unsimulated, eg Tinto Brasses Caligula) but IMHO was lucky to get an MA15+. regulations are tighter there but not census, if that makes sense. Like if say, animal cruelty is not alloud, it's not like here where its to what degree but wether it's present at all. Speeking from a BBFC point of view i'd say Dredd is a very mild 18 anyway.
I'm pretty sure its not cut here in Oz, we have two different M15 ratings. M15 (reccoemnded for people 15 or over) is pretty much equive to your 15 or the US PG15 and our harder MA15 (restricted to 15 over unless acompanied by an adult) is like your 18+ and the US R rating (which is 15+ i believ). Our next harder rating is R18+ which is the US equivilent of NC17, its got to be a pretty gory or secual movie to cop that rating it seems.
Well i rushed out the other night to get my copy and couldn't find one :(
Got my copy Thursday night blasted home to play it then realised my Blu Ray Player has already been moved to my new house, so now i've got my nice Blu of Dredd and no way to watch it untill i finish shifting Grrrrr :(
CU Radnackler
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 March, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
Mine has arrived and it's great, apart from that 15 rated bit >:(
(https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVBBgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2xhcmdlL2NkZ3JmdC5qcGcUBBYAEgA&s=l_ouOFs_F0m3B1KAkm8u7XT9uOFpB9LuBG4JYJIUVnY)
OK, like Judge Burdis, my Australian copy has arrived and I've been giving it a spin for a week or so, so can make some comparisons to the UK edition.
My over all impression is that it is far superior to the UK EIV edition. I'm not entirely sold on the special edition packaging. The use of the graffiti art on the slip-case is most welcome but that bloody rating sticker is not removable-a particular pet hate of mine.
On to the Blu-Ray case itself. The cover art is the same as the UK edition, but has a bleached out look-giving the slight appearance that the ink was running dry on the photocopier in the printing process (the standard Australian 3D blu-Ray and 2D version have a more conventional cover art-minus the UK's J J Abrams inspired lens flare of course) and still has that ugly ratings sticker plastered all over it, again not removable!
There's also a rather nice glossy and thick carded reprint of the Ma Ma prequel comic, that was seen on the tinternet and The Megazine last year, housed within.
On to the disc itself.
There are three trailers-some cheap looking Jurassic Park III inspired fluff, Sinister and Zero Dark Thirty before we get to the sexy menu.
"Judgement Time" Karl "The Urbinator" Urban announces, while a very pretty Peach Trees block is shown in the background, behind Dredd's imposing visage, while a snippet from the superb Paul Leonard-Morgan score plays throughout.
One of the most suprising things about the disc is that it offers both the 5.1 and 7.1 sound mix of the movie. Interesting,as a certain lawbringer may utter.
Not having a 7.1 sound system I'm limited to 5.1 mix (more on this later).
Also on the menu you can choose English subtitles if required and access the extra features.
These aren't dramatically different to the UK disc, but the two inclusions missing from the UK disc make this version a must have for fans of the comic and the movie.
First is "Mega-City Masters: 35 years of Judge Dredd" this is a fascinating insight into what makes the character and comic so enduring and features a plethora of interviews with the likes of Brian Bolland, Carlos Ezquerra, John Wagner, Alex Garland and Tharg himself!
There's also the sight of an almost humble Mark Millar admitting that he cocked up his run on the character!
The second is "Day Of Chaos: The visual effects of Dredd 3D." This is a far more comprehensive look at the making of the movie and has some informative insights by the FX crew on the subtle changes that were made in post, to give the film its unique look and enhance certain background shots.
On to the film.
Once you've pressed play film, you get the choice of the 3D version or 2D version of the film-for the purposes of this review I chose the 3D version though I can't imagine the PQ quality being very different except it only being in 2D of course!
First up we have the ICON company logo (distributors of Dredd in Australia) followed by the rather funky 3D DTS-HD Master Audio logo and sequence to nearly poke your eye out!
Next, the nearly as funky 3D Lionsgate logo (missing from the UK disc) then on to the movie itself.
From watching the film a couple of times, reading posts from Joe Soap and comparing to the UK disc I can conclude that the print used mirrors the US version, as much as I can tell, with slightly more information either side of the image, wich actually improves the viewing experience considerably in my opinion-the film just appears better framed.
I'd also argue that there is slightly less grain than the UK disc (maybe due to the image not being magnified, as was suggested of the EIV UK disc) and the colour seems to be slightly better balanced, giving the film greater aethetic beauty-again, in my opinion.
The 5.1 mix of the soundtrack is also an arguable improvement. The front speaker sound for the dialogue seems clearer (at least to these Heavy Metal damaged ears) and there also seem more clarity from the surround tracks-I'm sure rear speaker audio was slightly boosted and background effects and dialogue was more audible, so much so, I heard things I struggled to hear on the UK disc.
The disc is compatible with regions A, B and C according to the packaging-though be aware that I played the disc on an unhacked UK region B device.
Overall I'd say that the Australian disc is most desirable, especially as the US disc is region locked, and with the improvement on sound and picture quality it's worth a punt even if you already own the UK disc.
Oh, and it is completely uncut and the same as the UK version, as seen in the cinema and on UK disc and more importantly is still a bloody brilliant film! :D
The French 2D edition is still best. Proper 2:40 ratio and less saturated colours.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2013, 06:17:17 PM
The French 2D edition is still best. Proper 2:40 ratio and less saturated colours.
Ah! Mines still sealed in that sexy MetalPak and I'm too scared to open it!
What's different between the Australian and French picture framing Joe?
Any comparison sites you can link me too? ;)
Quote from: dweezil2 on 29 March, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
From watching the film a couple of times, reading posts from Joe Soap and comparing to the UK disc I can conclude that the print used mirrors the US version, as much as I can tell, with slightly more information either side of the image, wich actually improves the viewing experience considerably in my opinion-the film just appears better framed.
I'd also argue that there is slightly less grain than the UK disc (maybe due to the image not being magnified, as was suggested of the EIV UK disc) and the colour seems to be slightly better balanced, giving the film greater aethetic beauty-again, in my opinion.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2013, 06:17:17 PM
Proper 2:40 ratio and less saturated colours.
Isnt the UK Blu-ray/DVD in 2:40:1? Its what's stated on the reverse cover. Have they altered it to 2:35:1, or some such?
Quote from: Judge Jack on 29 March, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 29 March, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
From watching the film a couple of times, reading posts from Joe Soap and comparing to the UK disc I can conclude that the print used mirrors the US version, as much as I can tell, with slightly more information either side of the image, wich actually improves the viewing experience considerably in my opinion-the film just appears better framed.
I'd also argue that there is slightly less grain than the UK disc (maybe due to the image not being magnified, as was suggested of the EIV UK disc) and the colour seems to be slightly better balanced, giving the film greater aethetic beauty-again, in my opinion.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 29 March, 2013, 06:17:17 PM
Proper 2:40 ratio and less saturated colours.
Isnt the UK Blu-ray/DVD in 2:40:1? Its what's stated on the reverse cover. Have they altered it to 2:35:1, or some such?
Both the UK and Australien discs say 2:40:1 but there's definitely more information on the Aussie disc.
I don't have the French Blu to hand.
I'm a dullard when it comes to the minutia of aspect ratios. Joe, anyone want to give me a crash course? ;)
OZ VERSION:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8320/oz2r.png)
FRENCH VERSION:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5239/frog2.png)
You can clearly see the differences in ratio between the two versions: there is more of a gap between Dredd's helmet and the top of frame, and more screen information on both sides of the frame. This is what the 2:40 image should look like and only 2D only discs will have this version.
There is also a sharper, more focussed image onn the French 2D only disc because it's not cropped or realigned to create one eye of the 3D image as on the 3D/2D combo disc.
Also on the French 2D disc colours are more natural, unsaturated and brightness levels are normal meaning normal skintones and detail is not lost or burnt-out.
In conclusion: the US, UK* & OZ 3D/2D combo discs will have lesser quality if viewing the film in 2D and not in 3D which is what the disc's image is primarily designed and optimised for. Buy either the 2D only OZ, German or French discs or the French Metal-Pack which has both versions on separate discs.
The UK version has the most saturated colour than all other versions, which causes loss of detail.
Cheers Joe!
Most illuminating! :thumbsup:
Aye, good stuff. Even aside from having more picture information available, the French BR does look a lot nicer, doesnt it.
Quite a few of these French steelbook editions are up on E-Bay as we speak. Prices, roughly, range from £25.00 to £35ish. Though a few a quite a bit higher. Was this the price people have been paying?
Quote from: Judge Jack on 30 March, 2013, 12:45:18 PM
Aye, good stuff. Even aside from having more picture information available, the French BR does look a lot nicer, doesnt it.
Quite a few of these French steelbook editions are up on E-Bay as we speak. Prices, roughly, range from £25.00 to £35ish. Though a few a quite a bit higher. Was this the price people have been paying?
I bought mine from Amozon France and it seems to have gone down in price since I ordered it.
Not sure what the pounds to euros conversion is:
http://www.amazon.fr/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B00A2HCHF2/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1364651110&sr=1-1
Think I paid about thirty quid.
Watched my French 2D copy the other day - it looks lovely. Tbh I prefer the slightly desaturated feel.
Thanks for that link dweezil2 - if my little lappy gadget is correct, then thats about £22.00 for the French edition. I guess its free delivery to the UK using Amazon.fr? Looking at the relevent pages now (using google translate).
If other peeps on here have been paying £30, then around the £25/30 mark sounds about right for the package.
I only just bought the Dredd DVD. I couldn't find it in any shop since it was released (I very rarely buy stuff online as I never know where I will be).
Last week HMV in Oxford Street had it in stock – upstairs in the chart section at number 11. Not cheap at £12.99 especially as I bought two – one for myself and one as a present (and also to help the cause).
I don't have a Blu-ray player so I got the regular 2D version.
Got to say I was disappointed that there is nothing in the box other than the disc. Is that normal? (I don't remember the last time I bought a DVD.)
As for the picture quality – terrible. Without any doubt the worst I have ever seen on my computer's 23' Apple Cinema Display screen. DVDs usually look superb on it.
What I don't get is why does the online QuickTime trailer look so pin sharp in comparison to the DVD?
Almost feel embarrassed to give such a poor quality DVD as a present. In fact I am considering taking the unopened one back and asking for a refund (which is blasphemy to some no doubt).
The picture quality ranges from brilliant and pin-sharp, to very fuzzy and soft.
Which was the stylistic choice they made for the film, i guess.
I caught the film twice in the cinema. But in 3D only, so it wasnt that noticeable. But it was a shock, initially, to see it at home in 2D.
I didn't really notice a difference between Dredd and any other DVD. Maybe it's just because the screens are getting bigger.
I don't mean to sound patronising but you can bet that's it.
Dredd is getting a steel-book (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229457053864129&set=a.176781485798353.45081.175796075896894&type=1&relevant_count=1).
One disc ::)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
Dredd is getting a steel-book (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229457053864129&set=a.176781485798353.45081.175796075896894&type=1&relevant_count=1).
Damn! That's looks awesome, with Dredd on his Lawmaster!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/544784_229457053864129_1722820714_n.jpg)
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00C58P8NY?tag=bluraycom-22
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71Fsa90DpLL._AA1165_.jpg)
What's that you say.?
Dredd is getting a sequel?
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 05 April, 2013, 02:51:44 PM
What's that you say.?
Dredd is getting a sequel?
Old news.
It looks great but the ? is when the hell can we get our hands on a pal region version :thumbsup:
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 02:42:22 PM
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00C58P8NY?tag=bluraycom-22
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71Fsa90DpLL._AA1165_.jpg)
That is just pure sex and I want one! :thumbsup:
Quote from: hazy efc on 05 April, 2013, 04:00:47 PM
It looks great but the ? is when the hell can we get our hands on a pal region version :thumbsup:
Well it won't be from the UK; Germany, possibly. There are no PAL or NTSC blu-rays - the terms are redundant for HD as quality and resolution are the same. There are regions A, B & C. Japan are region A, Europe, B.
Why oh why did the UK not get quality steel books like that?!? I hate to use swearing and caps to emphasise my feelings, but that REALLY FUCKING SUCKS!!!
Iv'e had a beer
2000 AD please do something about this can you organize a special 2000 AD DREDD 3 D for all the uk _ unt's that have been reading the comic faithfully since prog 2 missed number 1 :( or even do an order list for a special steelbook 2000 AD signed copy or something SPECIAL
id pay easy # 50 notes for a special with a comic GET IT TOGETHER
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bunch a fukin stonnerzzzzzzzzzz what
Eh?
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 05 April, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
Why oh why did the UK not get quality steel books like that?!? I hate to use swearing and caps to emphasise my feelings, but that REALLY FUCKING SUCKS!!!
EIV would sell more if they did.
I think should call round in your uniform:
Entertainment Film Distributors
Eagle House 108 -110 Jermyn Street London SW1Y 6HB United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 20 7930 7744F +44 (0) 20 7930 9399
http://www.entertainmentfilms.co.uk/contact-us
Do not fear, all is in hand folks. All we have to do is wait nine and a half more years for one :lol:
It's at No. 2 in the amazon Japan Blu-ray chart:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/2147352051/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_d _3_3_last
No. 16 in the overall DVD/Blu-ray chart:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/ref=pd_dp_ts_d_1
And it's not even out till June 26th.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
Dredd is getting a steel-book (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229457053864129&set=a.176781485798353.45081.175796075896894&type=1&relevant_count=1).
Sigh...
Quote from: Judge Jack on 05 April, 2013, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
Dredd is getting a steel-book (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229457053864129&set=a.176781485798353.45081.175796075896894&type=1&relevant_count=1).
Sigh...
Only 3890 copies...2D edition...
I'm going to make my own limited edition.
Quote from: junox on 05 April, 2013, 08:38:59 PM
Iv'e had a beer
2000 AD please do something about this can you organize a special 2000 AD DREDD 3 D for all the uk _ unt's that have been reading the comic faithfully since prog 2 missed number 1 :( or even do an order list for a special steelbook 2000 AD signed copy or something SPECIAL
id pay easy # 50 notes for a special with a comic GET IT TOGETHER
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bunch a fukin stonnerzzzzzzzzzz what
Quite a few beers by the sound of it.
I'm not sure the comic team has any say in what the film makers may want to produce and sell (and vice versa).
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 07 April, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
I'm not sure the comic team has any say in what the film makers may want to produce and sell (and vice versa).
It's not even up to the film-makers; it's decided by the distributors in each country, hence the many different packagings.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 April, 2013, 01:48:28 AM
Quote from: Judge Jack on 05 April, 2013, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 05 April, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
Dredd is getting a steel-book (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229457053864129&set=a.176781485798353.45081.175796075896894&type=1&relevant_count=1).
Sigh...
Most of which will no doubt end up in some obsessive bloke's cellar..
Only 3890 copies...2D edition...
Tiplodocus
yeah i had a few Erdinger beers never a good idea posting, i think i was trying to articulate how much i would like a U.K steelbook + extra's + a comicbook tie in with the movie ..... much embarrassed :-[
I wouldn't fret about it. I would worry about what sort of posts or texts you were sending to ex-partners while in the same state though.
I did notice the grainy noise in several scenes in the cinema - I assumed that it was an effect of the 3D camera. I'm disappointed to see it transferred onto the Blu-Ray version as well. :(
Since I missed Dredd in the theater, I blind-bought it on BR.
I'm a sucker for extras, so I was a little disappointed in that. I love 'making of' docs and would have loved to have seen that.
Ditto a commentary track.
Quote from: Robert Frazer on 13 April, 2013, 02:02:48 AM
I did notice the grainy noise in several scenes in the cinema - I assumed that it was an effect of the 3D camera. I'm disappointed to see it transferred onto the Blu-Ray version as well. :(
Having just watched
Skyfall on DVD - for the record, an insanely great Bond movie, the best yet hands down, how they'll top this is anyone's guess - the fact it was shot entirely on digital cameras (the lovely Arri Alexa) did not escape my notice, it looks absolutely gorgeous with no hint of grain... so if Dredd was also shot digitally, what's with the (at times) appalling picture quality; excessive grain, ghosting, etc!?
Joe dude, you know a thing or two about film production, care to set me straight on this one...?
It was shot using different types of cameras, one was a handheld 3D camera for extreme 3D close-ups that had never been used before with lower resolution than the RED 2K cameras. It's also a stylstic thing the cinematographer is noted for; it's in nearly all the films he's shot, but not all. I'm not too averse to grain/noise so it doesn't bother me too much though at times it does seem to be a result of shooting in low-light.
I know nowt about that nuts and bolts of film making, but id have said it was a stylistic choice as well.
Least i hope it was. Using untried camera's may have turned out to be problematic - and created the need to go for the grainy/ghosted look at times - or at least turn it up a few notches?
Watching Dredd, at home, for the first time was a bit of a head scratcher, but re-watching it i hardly notice it.
But where it is pin sharp, it does look fantastic, so i do slightly bemoan a lack of a uniform look through-out.
To be honest it seemed to be more noticeable on the medium/wide shots, not the close-ups.
I live in Japan and saw that someone posted a link to the Japanese edition a while back. It's in a really nice steel box, so I was really tempted to buy it, but when I looked on Amazon Japan there were loads of bad reviews (already!) from people complaining that there was no 3D disc. From their reviews, they actually seem quite pissed off. One good thing is that there are clearly a lot of people who liked the film so much that they're moved to post reviews complaining about the lack of a 3D disc before it's even released.
Quote from: RicheyJ on 19 April, 2013, 01:56:32 PM
I live in Japan and saw that someone posted a link to the Japanese edition a while back. It's in a really nice steel box, so I was really tempted to buy it, but when I looked on Amazon Japan there were loads of bad reviews (already!) from people complaining that there was no 3D disc. From their reviews, they actually seem quite pissed off. One good thing is that there are clearly a lot of people who liked the film so much that they're moved to post reviews complaining about the lack of a 3D disc before it's even released.
Complaining there's no 3D?
Wow! That's a switch! :lol:
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 April, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: RicheyJ on 19 April, 2013, 01:56:32 PM
I live in Japan and saw that someone posted a link to the Japanese edition a while back. It's in a really nice steel box, so I was really tempted to buy it, but when I looked on Amazon Japan there were loads of bad reviews (already!) from people complaining that there was no 3D disc. From their reviews, they actually seem quite pissed off. One good thing is that there are clearly a lot of people who liked the film so much that they're moved to post reviews complaining about the lack of a 3D disc before it's even released.
Complaining there's no 3D?
Wow! That's a switch! :lol:
Haha, yeah, that's true. From what reviews I've seen, Japanese viewers seem to have a lot of appreciation for the technical achievement of the 3D in Dredd. Makes a change from all the moaning about not being able to see it in 2D. I have to agree with the Japanese fans myself. I dislike 3D generally, but I thought it was absolutely fantastic in Dredd.
I totally agree RicheyJ!
DOP Anthony Dod Mantle did an amazing job with the 3D cinematography!
This little beauty turned up yesterday!
And believe me when I say it's even sexier in the flesh!
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/image-1.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/image-1.jpg.html)
Oh god, that looks awesome. Still waiting on mine.
I wish Judge Dredd was a character that was created in Britain, then we might have gotten summat as nice as that... ;)
That's nice. Being Japanese the photo makes Dredd somehow even larger than life. Like he could take on Gojira (Godzilla) and win.
Nice - still hopeful for a UK steelbook.
Does the sticker come off?
Mine should be here this week then :thumbsup:
How both your's both turn up safe and sound CF and SM and Radiator the cardboard slipcase comes of to reveal the artwork beneath.
Also, the disc is region free and will play on UK Blu-ray players. :)
Quote from: dweezil2 on 09 July, 2013, 07:20:48 PM
How both your's both turn up safe and sound CF and SM and Radiator the cardboard slipcase comes of to reveal the artwork beneath.
Also, the disc is region free and will play on UK Blu-ray players. :)
"Hope" both your's turn up.......... :-[
Quote from: Judge Jack on 09 July, 2013, 04:52:18 PM
I wish Judge Dredd was a character that was created in Britain, then we might have gotten summat as nice as that... ;)
I'm still hoping someone like Zavvi will pull their finger out and do one, but the Japanese steelbook will take some beating!
Well, here's hoping dweezil2 - and the fact that the Japanese beauty will play on UK players makes it even more attractive.
On a related matter; Popped in HMV today - ours has had a bit of a revamp, and whilst the shelves were full of the usual deals/offers, Dredd was still priced at £9.99
Hopefully im correct in assuming its still selling well, so they wont discount it while it continues to do so?
Quote from: Judge Jack on 09 July, 2013, 09:30:10 PM
Hopefully im correct in assuming its still selling well, so they wont discount it while it continues to do so?
from my experience working in the high street, yeah pretty much. when somethings being sold for a pittance its not doing well.
Well, I've just been stung for £20 import duties, plus another £12
For Saturday delivery, the only day I'm around to sign for the steelbook. Jeez, what a racket, eh?!?
*sigh* the price of fandom... ::)
Gulp! The price of getting stuff from abroad... :(
And the Saturday charge is a right rip, isnt it. Unavoidable in your instance, but Parcelforce always seem to try that on.
Im pretty sure they hang onto stuff until the earliest time they can only deliver it would be a Saturday, because when you after summat, waiting til after the weekend is a killer. But wait i do...
I bought the French steelbook (is that just a fancy way of saying "in a tin"?) from FNAC and got a free customised t-shirt (€6 postage) for which I selected the iconic 'Dredd on a throne' image - Bargain!
I won't be buying any others though, unless they do a special edition with extra stuff on - my mates already think I'm mad for buying TWO versions of the same film!
Interesting, I haven't been contacted yet. Perhaps mine got through untouched, which would be a first :lol: :lol: :lol:
Really tempted to get the Japanese edition, but as with the Zenith book - there's a limit to what I'd be willing to spend on something.
The French edition is nice enough for now, but I fully expect a UK or US special edition or steelbook to be announced soon - it's now confirmed as one of the best-selling Blu Rays of the year (in the UK at least) so they'd be mad not to.
My wee beauty turned up today. Come on Great Britain, get your drokkin' arse in gear!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069826_10201708395375989_1359051193_n.jpg)
Damn, that's looks so awesome!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPYkXHTCQAA4_Gg.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPYl0vuCIAEhYH7.jpg)
I can see right up Andersons nose
Shit marketing again. We have a huge UK market for this special edition and no one catering for demand ? :o :-*
It is rather depressing that the UK has been issued the worst release out of all the territories, or so it seems (as I haven't bought every disc out there). I just hope that we do get something special before Christmas but then again, who knows!
Did a check of the disc just now and it has the Mega-City Masters (35 Years of Judge Dredd) - Day of Chaos (Visual Effects of Dredd) plus the 6 shorts that we have already seen.
You also get the Official 2:30 Trailer and two Japanese Trailers (the first is awesome, as we have seen). Plus you also get sound set ups for DTS, 7.1, 5.1 and DTS NEO:X
It plays in English with Japanese subtitles, that you can take off the screen if you so wish!
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 July, 2013, 04:18:09 AM
It is rather depressing that the UK has been issued the worst release out of all the territories, or so it seems (as I haven't bought every disc out there). I just hope that we do get something special before Christmas but then again, who knows!
Well I did mention last year that would be awful when first hear that
Entertainment Film Distributors will handle Dredd. As knew their releases been poorly and many of their DVDs/Blu-Ray looks shite and lack of subtitle.
:'( The place of origin of Dredd and no shiney special edition. Well I'll save me £30 till Christmas and hopefully it will arrive then.
As there is still no sign of a 'shiny tin special edition' Dredd in the UK... Someone suggested a while ago (I can't remember who atm) that we have a 'buy a copy of Dredd day.' Is anyone still up for this? I don't have a Blu-Ray player, but i'd gladly purchase the 3D Blu-Ray Dredd to help push up the sales on said day.
Stew.
Quote from: SKD on 09 August, 2013, 05:55:17 PM
As there is still no sign of a 'shiny tin special edition' Dredd in the UK... Someone suggested a while ago (I can't remember who atm) that we have a 'buy a copy of Dredd day.' Is anyone still up for this? I don't have a Blu-Ray player, but i'd gladly purchase the 3D Blu-Ray Dredd to help push up the sales on said day.
Stew.
I think that may of been me!
Well it's coming up for the film's first anniversary on September 7th, maybe we should all go out and buy another copy (or two) then! :)
Great idea on the 7th of September will go for the blu Ray ...
I'd also like to see fans organise a viewing of the movie in 1 or 2 cinema's a pre booked England or Scotland preferred (official DREDD DAY )
I'm new to this forum but not new to 2000ad, I am up for anything that will get a Dredd sequel made. I have signed the petition but will do anything beyond that. I do not have a blue ray player but will gladly buy a Dredd blu ray on the 7th of September to help the cause.
I think I will do this as well, I lent out my copy so could do with another.
Should try get the Make a Dredd sequel page to get some more people to do it to
Amazing how many people reviewed this movie on Amazon in comparison to the other big name releases. A great customer score to boot as well! Not bad for a low budget release.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B008OGHUFK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dredd-Blu-ray-3D-Karl-Urban/dp/B008OGHUFK)
Then Amazon.com has a fairly respectable score and pretty ok review numbers in line with other releases.http://www.amazon.com/Dredd-Blu-ray-Digital-Copy-UltraViolet/dp/B005LAII80/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376433801&sr=8-1&keywords=dredd (http://www.amazon.com/Dredd-Blu-ray-Digital-Copy-UltraViolet/dp/B005LAII80/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376433801&sr=8-1&keywords=dredd)
Quote from: dweezil2 on 09 August, 2013, 06:58:26 PM
Well it's coming up for the film's first anniversary on September 7th, maybe we should all go out and buy another copy (or two) then! :)
September 7th sounds good to me. :thumbsup:
The Blu-Ray is still in the top 20 in the Sainsburys near me and is selling for £7, the same as Tesco. The DVD (for anyone who has not got it yet) is going for a fiver, so it's not going to break the bank either.
Stew.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 August, 2013, 09:47:24 AM
I think I will do this as well, I lent out my copy so could do with another.
Should try get the Make a Dredd sequel page to get some more people to do it to
I posted this on the 'Make A Dredd Sequel' Facebook page:
Hello fellow Dreddheads!
September 7th will mark the one year anniversary of Dredd's release in the UK in the cinema (21st of September USA and many others).
To mark this event I'd like to suggest that we all buy another copy of the film on Blu-ray/DVD to bolster sales and hopefully increase the prospects of a sequel!
My paint and photoshop skills are very limited, so I'm requesting the help of the 'Make A Dredd Sequel' mods or another group member to create a suitably striking image to accompany the 'Pledge To Buy Dredd Saturday' (on Sep 7th or 21st) to share on the various social networks and to get this strategy in motion!
I look forward to what other group members think and thanks for reading!
I will definitely buy a Blu-ray copy on sept 7th but a thought struck me earlier today. Does it matter where we purchase from and is there a retailer that would be a better bet for registering sales?
For instance if a buy a cheap £7 copy from Tesco say would that have the same effect as buying from Amazon? Or do all sales count no matter where from? Okay, obviously buying second hand copies won't cut it, but would buying other cheaper discs be any better?
Lastly would it be better if we all bought from the same source to create a 'spike' of sales or does it really not matter if sales are spread between various sources?
Quote from: gavingavin on 14 August, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
I will definitely buy a Blu-ray copy on sept 7th but a thought struck me earlier today. Does it matter where we purchase from and is there a retailer that would be a better bet for registering sales?
For instance if a buy a cheap £7 copy from Tesco say would that have the same effect as buying from Amazon? Or do all sales count no matter where from? Okay, obviously buying second hand copies won't cut it, but would buying other cheaper discs be any better?
Lastly would it be better if we all bought from the same source to create a 'spike' of sales or does it really not matter if sales are spread between various sources?
I'd imagine, as regards to the UK retail market, any physical copy bought at a retailer online or shop goes toward the total figure, which the BVA use for its' charts.
http://www.bva.org.uk/market-information/blu-ray-sales-chart
So, finally got access to post in here. I wanted to ask about the picture quality on that Japanese Dredd Bluray CF got and how it compares to the French one, as I am shortly going to be picking one up. Is the French one still considered the best picture quality? Thanks...
Quote from: redtoms on 21 August, 2013, 09:28:13 PM
So, finally got access to post in here. I wanted to ask about the picture quality on that Japanese Dredd Bluray CF got and how it compares to the French one, as I am shortly going to be picking one up. Is the French one still considered the best picture quality? Thanks...
They're both the same in terms of image: colour-saturation, frame-ratio and sharpness levels seem even.
Grand job, thanks
Just watched my blu-ray for the first time as I now have a blu ray player.
I got the UK version and I think the quality is really bad. Was quite disappointed actually.
Still, film kicks ass.
Can digital films be restored/improved like films on film have been for blu-ray restorations?
If your TV has a 'Theatre' mode try watching it in that, it smooths out the picture alot and makes it look alot better in my opinion. :)
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 August, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
Can digital films be restored/improved like films on film have been for blu-ray restorations?
Well you can run noise reduction on footage, but it can make stuff look fake - (The Predator Blu-ray apparently suffers from that)
It's more a case of whether they want to, and if they do, whether it's viable.
I'm guessing 'No' on both of those.
and never use edge enhancement!!
Popped on the first 10 minutes on Netflix last night out of curiosity, streamed it in HD and it didn't seem to suffer from that scratchy visual noise that the blu-rays do in dark/shadowy shots. A shame the blu-ray came out that way. I still maintain my suspicion that it's a compression issue with cramming the 3D and 2D transfers on one disc, I hear the 3D transfer looks better?
Not a big complaint, the brighter moments look fantastic. Just thought it was interesting that Netflix seem to have a different version.
Yeah, the only time i've really noticed the poor quality was the blu-ray.
Quote from: dweezil2 on 09 August, 2013, 06:58:26 PM
Well it's coming up for the film's first anniversary on September 7th, maybe we should all go out and buy another copy (or two) then! :)
Got mine. :thumbsup:
Stew.
I got mine today. Shame I don't have a blu ray player.