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Started by sheldipez, 07 March, 2013, 09:54:30 AM

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Theblazeuk

Entirely!
QuoteOriginally, the character of Billie was in fact Newt from Aliens; the early comics in which the character appeared were a direct continuation of that film's story, featuring Newt and Corporal Hicks continuing the fight against the Xenomorphs. However, following the release of Alien3 in 1992, in which Newt is killed on Fiorina 161, the character from the comics was renamed Billie so that the stories in which she features were still compatible with the film series. This change first appeared in the novel Aliens: Earth Hive, an adaptation of the comic series Aliens: Outbreak, while subsequent reprints of the comic books have also adopted the altered identity.

So it boils down to they cut Ripley out of the original story and had it just be 'Newt' and 'Hicks' on their own colony eerily like the events of Aliens.... Still bloody awesome comics.

Link Prime

Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 15 May, 2017, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 15 May, 2017, 12:47:44 PM
Something is really pissing me off though- they've just randomly switched out Newt and Hicks for "Billie" and "Wilks".

When Alien 3 was released, with its surprise callous offing of the characters in question, minor re-writes had to be done to scripts written post-Aliens that used Newt and Hicks. Presumably most of the art was already underway, so it wasn't really an option to just remove the marine/girl characters entirely.

It still makes little sense.
As far as I recall the characters were originally named Newt & Hicks in the comic sequels (when published 25-30 years ago), so Dark Horse renamed them retroactively after the plot for Alien 3 was known.
The 'continuation' series concludes with Female War, including Ripley as one of the main characters- even though she died in Alien 3.

Would have been better to stick with their original direction and present it as an 'alternative' story-line.
 



Colin YNWA

Bloomin' heck if I didn't own about 80% of this I'd be all over this like a rash. An ASTONISHINGLY GOOD Humble Bundle made up of two of the truly greatest creator ever. Yes Kirby and Eisner joy to be had for next to nowt. If you don't own Silver Star this is worth it for that alone!

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/kirby-eisner-centennial-comics

Stunning!

Theblazeuk

Quote from: Link Prime on 15 May, 2017, 05:28:43 PM
The 'continuation' series concludes with Female War, including Ripley as one of the main characters- even though she died in Alien 3.
Would have been better to stick with their original direction and present it as an 'alternative' story-line.

I am pretty sure that 'Ripley' is revealed to be an Android (a favourite trick of that series but a good one when the 'Engineer' came around)

SuperSurfer

Quote from: Colin YNWA on 12 July, 2017, 07:46:48 PM
Bloomin' heck if I didn't own about 80% of this I'd be all over this like a rash. An ASTONISHINGLY GOOD Humble Bundle made up of two of the truly greatest creator ever. Yes Kirby and Eisner joy to be had for next to nowt. If you don't own Silver Star this is worth it for that alone!
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/kirby-eisner-centennial-comics
Stunning!
Can't see the images on that link for some reason. Not sure if the Kirby stuff is by him or comics using his characters. But I can always enjoy some Silver Star (and Captain Victory). I guess those are the only original Kirby comics I own. Actually, I do have a Kirby Superman (or is it Jimmy Olsen?) comic, sans front cover. That was possibly the first American comic I had. Ruined by the redrawn Superman faces that were plastered on Kirby's art. Not by me – by DC.

Link Prime

Quote from: Theblazeuk on 13 July, 2017, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: Link Prime on 15 May, 2017, 05:28:43 PM
The 'continuation' series concludes with Female War, including Ripley as one of the main characters- even though she died in Alien 3.
Would have been better to stick with their original direction and present it as an 'alternative' story-line.

I am pretty sure that 'Ripley' is revealed to be an Android (a favourite trick of that series but a good one when the 'Engineer' came around)

Didn't pick up on that at all, Blaze.
It'd also make little sense considering Ripleys 'psychic connection' to the Alien queen mother in the Female War story.
Trying so hard to tie everything in was poorly executed in general, really distracted me from enjoying those particular stories.
Some of the other collections have been great though- loved 'Harvest', had some stunning artwork by Kelly Jones too.

Theblazeuk

I could be misremembering. There was some sort of twist somewhere - not only is the whole thing confuzzled by the aformentioned complications, I also read these in a weird order predicated on what I've read in various longboxes, reprints and scans over years....

However i just between sentences googled it and lo, this provides a good overview and illustrates just how messy it all got: https://litreactor.com/columns/the-love-hate-relationship-between-aliens-and-its-tie-in-books

(She was synthetic but then as you say, human again for Female War)

Link Prime

Quote from: Theblazeuk on 14 July, 2017, 03:31:04 PM
this provides a good overview and illustrates just how messy it all got: https://litreactor.com/columns/the-love-hate-relationship-between-aliens-and-its-tie-in-books

< Frantically reaches for giant red button to jettison article into the remorseless vacuum of space >

Arkwright99

Quote from: Link Prime on 18 July, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
< Frantically reaches for giant red button to jettison article into the remorseless vacuum of space >
Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.  :P
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CalHab

On the subject of Aliens (and lots of other good stuff), Comixology will apply a 50% discount to all Dark Horse books with the DH17 code.

Dandontdare

It's not as bad as those post New Hope Star Wars comics where Luke and Leia get it on, and Jabba the Hutt is just some humanoid guy.

Colin YNWA

Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 July, 2017, 01:04:54 PM
It's not as bad as those post New Hope Star Wars comics where Luke and Leia get it on, and Jabba the Hutt is just some humanoid guy.

Arh man but those are some great comics!

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rogue69

Forbidden Planet have in their sale at the moment

Charlie's War £4.99, 2000AD t shirts £9.99 2000AD cursed Earth £4.99, signed Zenith giclee prints £19.99, Camelot 3000 £6.99, Major Eazy vol1 £4.99, Johnny Nemo £ 4.50, Marshal Law :Origins £1.99 as well as the usual DC & Marvel bits & pieces 

Dodsy

Quote from: rogue69 on 31 July, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
Forbidden Planet have in their sale at the moment

Charlie's War £4.99, 2000AD t shirts £9.99 2000AD cursed Earth £4.99, signed Zenith giclee prints £19.99, Camelot 3000 £6.99, Major Eazy vol1 £4.99, Johnny Nemo £ 4.50, Marshal Law :Origins £1.99 as well as the usual DC & Marvel bits & pieces

Saw the Charlie's War's in the Newcastle store. Almost grabbed the lot until I realised a few where missing, kind of wish I'd grabbed them now regardless  :'(
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