Just wondering what fellow Judge Dredd fans think;
If they have 2 villains to each of the next (speculative) sequels to Dredd then which villainous characters would you have in the next films? and which villain combos would work well together in a narrative e.g. the joker and two face....
I would personally choose;
Dredd 2 - Rico and Mean Machine
Dredd 3 - Judge Cal and Judge Death
or maybe
Dredd 2 - Rico and Judge Cal
Dredd 3 - Mean Machine and Judge Death
?
Chopper would be cool (maybe intelligently pushing the 3D like this film does) and Mean. I'd like a genuinely scary Dark Judges movie too.
Other thoughts include Call Me Kenneth or, even cooler, Mechanismo robots as MC1 tech begins to advance.
As many have said, Total War would be great and as a single scene, I'd love to see Dredd slap down a Batman style vigilante, just to put him in his place...
Who I would NOT like to see are: the Angel Gang and yawnnnn The Dark Judges/Judge D'Erth.
There are so many wonderful thing in the Dreddverse why oh why do we have to drag our sorry erse back to these tired old nags?
Honestly, I think those villains better stay in comic and for films, create new villains!
Trapper Hag!
Cheers
Jim
Fink and extensive Angle gang flashbacks.
Sovs.
Chopper and Total War.
Rico, Hammerstein and some porridge clones.
I've said it on other threads but hey
Judge Fish
Call-Me-Kenneth
Who was that hippy guy in the prog from the cursed earth..my memory is shite
He controlled plants..was it Father Earth or something along those lines?
I'd also like to see the Kleggs make an appearance..
Yep, Father Earth.
On the many of these threads, I've never seen anyone suggest PJ. Interesting. Maybe of course, not Holden ;)
If Dredd is going into the Cursed Earth, then I'd like to see him go out there via a Hotdog run with Judge Giant as one of the rookies. They could encounter a few scenarios along the way to their main objective, which would be rescuing a Hell-Trek convoy that has been attacked by unknown assailants, that turn out to be Organ Leggers or some bod more memorable.
We could then see Gila Munja, Muties, Slavers, Stookie Farms, etc... along the way!
Quote from: Beeks on 01 August, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
I've said it on other threads but hey
Judge Fish
Call-Me-Kenneth
Who was that hippy guy in the prog from the cursed earth..my memory is shite
He controlled plants..was it Father Earth or something along those lines?
I'd also like to see the Kleggs make an appearance..
lol judge fish? and the Kleggs? wouldnt they entail that Judge Cal would be a villain in the same movie too? plus if you put call me kenneth in the mix would half the movie evolve around the robot war thingy.
oh yeah and it was Father Earth - he was an interesting Mutoid wanst he! he also inspired a whole army of cursed earth inhabitants to march on Mega City One!
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 August, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
If Dredd is going into the Cursed Earth, then I'd like to see him go out there via a Hotdog run with Judge Giant as one of the rookies. They could encounter a few scenarios along the way to their main objective, which would be rescuing a Hell-Trek convoy that has been attacked by unknown assailants, that turn out to be Organ Leggers or some bod more memorable.
We could then see Gila Munja, Muties, Slavers, Stookie Farms, etc... along the way!
oh yeah, cursed earth all the way for a sequel, giving it a western vibe maybe as well. But if Judge Giant were a rookie...surely he would be older than Anderson and would have already been Dredd's rookie before the events of Dredd? I'd like to see Idris Elba or someone play Giant.
Don Uggie and Cap'n Skank.
Pete's suggestion of Mechanismo does have the advantage of having a great central concept, but a disappointing narrative. Whatever mangling the screenplay subjected that story to would only be an improvement. The drawback is that I couldn't see DNA retaining Colin MacNeil's brilliant (but very comic book) robot design.
"I'm taking you in, Crazyface!"
Quote from: Mudcrab on 01 August, 2012, 07:27:55 PM
Yep, Father Earth.
On the many of these threads, I've never seen anyone suggest PJ. Interesting. Maybe of course, not Holden ;)
Not heard of this P J Interesting...
If you want to make use of 3D and the cursed earth, then look no further than old wotsisname, the guy with the metal tree and the flying death belt of rocks and rats. Imagine that flying at you in 3D. But yeah, gila munja (as long as the proper ones with big lips and clawhands), dog vultures, those mexican birdmen from 'oz', dinosaurs and lost towns populated by muties... all that'd be brilliant. Please no angry gang though, unless its either fink, or the entire film is a remake of 'the hilarious gatwick eyesore'. Which is what my phone honestly thinks i wanted to type, and not 'the hills have eyes'.
SBT
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 01 August, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
If you want to make use of 3D and the cursed earth, then look no further than old wotsisname, the guy with the metal tree and the flying death belt of rocks and rats. Imagine that flying at you in 3D. But yeah, gila munja (as long as the proper ones with big lips and clawhands), dog vultures, those mexican birdmen from 'oz', dinosaurs and lost towns populated by muties... all that'd be brilliant. Please no angry gang though, unless its either fink, or the entire film is a remake of 'the hilarious gatwick eyesore'. Which is what my phone honestly thinks i wanted to type, and not 'the hills have eyes'.
SBT
lol the hilarious gatwick eyesore sounds like it could have legs! let me send ridley and email!
and the guy with the metal tree and the swarm of flying rats and kingrat...what was his name.....something er,...damn what the hell's his name lol
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 01 August, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
If you want to make use of 3D and the cursed earth, then look no further than old wotsisname, the guy with the metal tree and the flying death belt of rocks and rats. Imagine that flying at you in 3D. But yeah, gila munja (as long as the proper ones with big lips and clawhands), dog vultures, those mexican birdmen from 'oz', dinosaurs and lost towns populated by muties... all that'd be brilliant.
That'd be
Novar & his ma.
So you'll be seeing the sequel in the cinema then?
If the sequel looks to be good and a bit like judge dredd, then i might.
SBT
Cursed Earth gives lots of scope. Not that the Big Meg doesn't...
Quote from: Bat King on 01 August, 2012, 11:19:18 PM
Cursed Earth gives lots of scope. Not that the Big Meg doesn't...
oh yeah, I certainly think Dredd will have alot of sequels in it, and I think cursed earth should be left till teh 3rd movie or something.
We need 7 films not 3.
I hope the potential sequels will be more episodic, so then it wouldn't be so crazy to have 7 instalments, rather then a trilogy arc.
personally I hope teh films take alot from teh comics....but add a gritty dark knight vibe, whilst the movies being somesort of progresion and more like the Dirty Harry series than anything. I really see it going 7 movies!! as long as they make the movies well.
Where did the number 7 come from???
after 6 and before 8.
6 movies and a season!
Quote from: James Stacey on 02 August, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
6 movies and a season!
lol a season would be taking it too far lol we don't want to get all George Lucas and spoil things now.
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Looks like we'll be getting Death and his pals for part 3.
They'll make them Hispanic - Banda Los Angeles.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Yes it would be a shame to have a story set in the Cursed Earth which didn't involve the Angel gang in some way.
Also I think the art contest winner has a good take on the Dark Judges.
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Quote from: Bat King on 01 August, 2012, 10:14:49 PM
Not heard of this P J Interesting...
'PJ Interesting' is so-called because he possesses a fascinating set of pyjamas.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 02 August, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
Also I think the art contest winner has a good take on the Dark Judges.
It's an interesting concept and well realised but I think one of the things about the Dark Judges is how individual each of them look whereas each of the concept DJs are of the one style. The concept DJs are too much of a deviation from the originals that I think it would be a case of if they change them that much why bother?
The film version Dredd, with a little toning down, is still visually the same design and character as the comic. The Dark Judges must be rendered in much the same way.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 03:42:49 PM
The concept DJs are too much of a deviation from the originals that I think it would be a case of if they change them that much why bother?
Agreed. If DNA want to avoid finding themselves in the same invidious position as the holders of the Bat and Spider franchises, of having to reboot the series every couple of years so they can tell the
same stories with the
same characters
all over again; then mimicing the Dredd strip's ability to effortlessly incorporate a host of different genres, narrative modes and visual styles would be a good place to start.
The abrupt changes of genre and visual aesthetic between Ridley Scott and James Cameron's
Alien films extended the life and expanded the scope of the series. Like the returning Ripley and Geiger's alien, the established design of the Judges, MC1 and Dredd himself provide the visual constants that would allow the gear change from
Sci-fi/Action into
Gothic Horror to be performed smoothly and without slamming the brakes on the whole enterprise.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Looks like we'll be getting Death and his pals for part 3.
where was this semi-confirmed...I must have missed it
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 02 August, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Yes it would be a shame to have a story set in the Cursed Earth which didn't involve the Angel gang in some way.
Also I think the art contest winner has a good take on the Dark Judges.
I like that artwork alot -
but what I liked about the Dark Judges is that they're otherworldly. I liked the way the computer game Dredd VS Death dealt with the dark judges they are not of Dredd's universe and should be treated that way. I'd like it if Judge Cal or some pyschopath used some kind of occultist sect to open a portal for the Dark Judges to enter through.
Orlok, The Angel Gang and Democracy Now!/Total War :P
Quote from: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Looks like we'll be getting Death and his pals for part 3.
where was this semi-confirmed...I must have missed it
Alex Garland has outlined his plans for a trilogy of films with a Cursed Earth/Origins story for part 2 and the Dark Judges for part 3. It's not set in stone but he said that it would probably go that way.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Looks like we'll be getting Death and his pals for part 3.
where was this semi-confirmed...I must have missed it
Alex Garland has outlined his plans for a trilogy of films with a Cursed Earth/Origins story for part 2 and the Dark Judges for part 3. It's not set in stone but he said that it would probably go that way.
very cool!!! if I can say that and it doesnt sound naff and 80s lol
can anyone link me to the source interview/material?
Quote from: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 09:31:32 PM
can anyone link me to the source interview/material?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvtmseGdoQw
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 09:43:57 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 02 August, 2012, 09:31:32 PM
can anyone link me to the source interview/material?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvtmseGdoQw
many thanks to you kind sir
Russell Muscle, The Phantom of the Shoperetta and if time permits Stan Lee.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 02 August, 2012, 03:11:37 PM
Since it's been semi-confirmed that Dredd 2 would be set in the Cursed Earth and feature am 'Origins'-esque storyline, I'd like to see Dredd and his team (including Anderson and Giant) under attack from a mutant army lead by the Angel Gang.
Looks like we'll be getting Death and his pals for part 3.
Sounds great to me, basically my wishlist. There are so many good Cursed Earth enemies though, the Angel Gang is not at the top of my list. I love Satanus but I think it would be really hard to convey what made him so cool in the comic book. The backstory with his mom (who is even worse) and the duel on top of the volcano was really what made him different from just a rampaging T-Rex.
The DJs are so obvious as a finale, I just hope they don't go to Nolan on us in regards to that. Bring on the supernatural nightmares in all their glory! I even have a teaser for DREDD 3 running in my head, see my Dark Judges post.
NOT the Angel Gang or Rico, for goodness's sake!
The new films should not have anything in them reminiscent of the 1995 film.
Why would you just do a re-hash of the failed, discredited Stallone movie and thereby give all non-fans the impression that there is nothing else to Dredd than the same old recurring villains, as if there is not a huge cast from 1800 back issues of fresh material? I can't think of anything else which would make a sequel less likely to happen.
Quote from: Richard on 06 August, 2012, 12:27:57 AM
NOT the Angel Gang or Rico, for goodness's sake!
The new films should not have anything in them reminiscent of the 1995 film.
Why would you just do a re-hash of the failed, discredited Stallone movie and thereby give all non-fans the impression that there is nothing else to Dredd than the same old recurring villains, as if there is not a huge cast from 1800 back issues of fresh material? I can't think of anything else which would make a sequel less likely to happen.
If Dredd is good enough to change peoples minds then it won't matter who is in any sequel; thoughts of the '95 film will be forever banished and this will be seen as the 'real' and legitimate Judge Dredd.
Steve Buscemi should play Max Normal
Quote from: pops1983 on 08 August, 2012, 12:05:43 AM
Steve Buscemi should play Max Normal
That's a fine choice. Boris Johnson for Otto Sump.
Well written ones that work well within the film story.
Stan Lee and more grounded villains would probably fit the film's recent world aesthetic though.
I'm actually not bothered about the villains for the sequel, I'd be more bothered about the character of Mega City One evolving - I think I'd like that to be closer to the comic.
Quote from: pops1983 on 08 August, 2012, 12:05:43 AM
Steve Buscemi should play Max Normal
I mentioned in another thread he would be much better suited to playing Feek the Freak in an Ace Garp movie
Quote from: PreacherCain on 06 August, 2012, 02:30:59 AM
Quote from: Richard on 06 August, 2012, 12:27:57 AM
NOT the Angel Gang or Rico, for goodness's sake!
The new films should not have anything in them reminiscent of the 1995 film.
Why would you just do a re-hash of the failed, discredited Stallone movie and thereby give all non-fans the impression that there is nothing else to Dredd than the same old recurring villains, as if there is not a huge cast from 1800 back issues of fresh material? I can't think of anything else which would make a sequel less likely to happen.
If Dredd is good enough to change peoples minds then it won't matter who is in any sequel; thoughts of the '95 film will be forever banished and this will be seen as the 'real' and legitimate Judge Dredd.
No reason at all they can't be reclaimed. The Angel Gang was actually one of the few bits that didn't annoy me in that other film. The whole Rico storyline, in otherwords the film, was awful.
No reason we can't have loads of films with loads of baddies if it does well in the box office. Keeping the helmet on means we can even have different actors without any silly issues. Dredd aging in real time in the comic means Karl Urban could still be playing him in a few decades time if it goes well.
Of course if the film doesn't do as well as I hope it will. There won't be a sequel.
Id love too see judge cal and i really think rhys ifans is crazy enough to pull it off :P
Quote from: hazy efc on 18 August, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
Id love too see judge cal and i really think rhys ifans is crazy enough to pull it off :P
Y'know I hadn't thought of Cal before, but that's a bloody good idea.
Quote from: hazy efc on 18 August, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
Id love too see judge cal and i really think rhys ifans is crazy enough to pull it off :P
Book him, now!
Fink would work a lot better as a villain than the rest of the Angels. Played similar to Ratfink he could be a very nasty piece of work.
Satanus would be a good villian for Dredd 3D 2 I think. haha not really, but it would be cool.
P.S this is why they should't have called it Dredd 3D, it makes me sick that name. plus the obvious silly sequel sound.
Solution to not liking it called Dredd 3D - go watch the 2D version, it won't be called Dredd 3D.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 August, 2012, 03:41:40 AM
this is why they should't have called it Dredd 3D, it makes me sick that name. plus the obvious silly sequel sound.
They could always take a leaf out of
Piranha's book. If
Mad Men's January Jones played Anderson in
DREDD 3DD (http://www.celebridoodle.com/.a/6a00e5536b2ba988330120a5e48b46970b-500wi), they could repurpose John Wagner's existing quote for the poster:
"And what a lot they've added ... I found myself reaching out trying to touch things that were dancing before my eyes"
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 August, 2012, 03:41:40 AM
Satanus would be a good villian for Dredd 3D 2 I think. haha not really, but it would be cool.
P.S this is why they should't have called it Dredd 3D, it makes me sick that name. plus the obvious silly sequel sound.
Quote from: Bat King on 19 August, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
Solution to not liking it called Dredd 3D - go watch the 2D version, it won't be called Dredd 3D.
Neither version is titled
DREDD 3D. It has one title.
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4535/titlekk.png)
There we go then.
Yeah but according to lionsgate the official name is DREDD 3D. It is on IMDB and RT as well as the facebook page and all the posters and the end of the trailer. It is stupid because once they release it on dvd they are probably gonna have to get all the names changed back again. And they did start out as just 'Dredd'
The title on-screen is the only official film title. The rest is marketing.
Joe is obviously right, the film is called what the credits roll as. Dredd.
If there`s sequels and i hope there is and there will be as long as we the fans get down to to our local cinemas and pay to watch it, from what alex garland has been saying with the idea of the films being a trilogy it looks like the dark judges are a cert at some point he said the third movie is when we would probably get to see them, so that leaves the second movie you could bring back villains from the 1st movie the angel family or even rico the possibilities are really exciting, ive heard some people say you souldnt use villains from previous movies well they done that with the joker in the batman movies and it worked out great, any way all that wont nothing if we the fans dont support DREDD so lets make it happen people, ryhs ifans 4 judge cal 2nd movie haha ;)
This is the 1st movie...
Definitely Booth and Death. I'll try to mix some thoughts into it. The Booth one could tell the origin story (Dredd could have been cloned to become a living symbol, but Fargo lost faith in what he'd done in his last days, a thread Dredd starts to follow) and the Death could be a horror story who deals with the dangers of relying to much on legends and what not.
It's just some ideas I'm throwing -around- into it. Hope I don't come off as s Scotty wannabe writing this, since it's his job to make Wagner and Garland realise that a perfect adaption would have hovering cars and vehicles with CGI-weapons on them ;)
Second movie: Robert L. Booth and Total War.
The democratic march being brutaly struck down with Dredd feeling remorse afterwards. When it's portrayed as a success democrats starts to look for Robert L Booth in the wasteland, in hopes to re-instate him.
Dredd is ordered to assassinate Booth, and sees it himself as a favour for the democrats not to be lead by a creep like Booth.
Third movie: Judge Death & C/o
Dredd having assassinated Booth in some cool way returns to MC1. There he works the system towards something that could lead to something better, which in a sense means towards democracy. At the same time a psi judge doesn't agree with Dredd. Feeling that Dredd has betrayed everyone.
He then comes into contact with Slomo and starts a mass-halicunation(Slomo upping his brain powarz). His idolisation of the "old Dredd" leads him to "become" Judge Death in peoples eyes. Since he wants to judge Dredd for his failings in protecting the system, he sees the system everywhere and in everyone. And everyone must die.
He also makes people halicunate Judge Fire (people see him when they start fires/he makes people start fires), Judge Fear scares people to jump off ledges and kill each other and Jugde Decay can be seen standing besides dead bodies and looking over them.
Dredd then uses ass kicking and Anderson her psi powers cranked up to 11 to seattle the deal. It ends well with just a couple of millions dead, Dredd stands as a reminder that people can be mislead into doing bad stuff. And himself he reminds everyone that building a new system could be more dangerous than destroying one.
Dredd then rides his motorbike into the sunset to the sound of Motörhead - Back at the funny farm. (Of all things, that's the one thing I'd like to see the most :D)
Jugde Decay... not familiar with that one....
Quote from: Borntohula on 21 August, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
Definitely Booth and Death. I'll try to mix some thoughts into it. The Booth one could tell the origin story (Dredd could have been cloned to become a living symbol, but Fargo lost faith in what he'd done in his last days, a thread Dredd starts to follow) and the Death could be a horror story who deals with the dangers of relying to much on legends and what not.
It's just some ideas I'm throwing -around- into it. Hope I don't come off as s Scotty wannabe writing this, since it's his job to make Wagner and Garland realise that a perfect adaption would have hovering cars and vehicles with CGI-weapons on them ;)
Second movie: Robert L. Booth and Total War.
The democratic march being brutaly struck down with Dredd feeling remorse afterwards. When it's portrayed as a success democrats starts to look for Robert L Booth in the wasteland, in hopes to re-instate him.
Dredd is ordered to assassinate Booth, and sees it himself as a favour for the democrats not to be lead by a creep like Booth.
Third movie: Judge Death & C/o
Dredd having assassinated Booth in some cool way returns to MC1. There he works the system towards something that could lead to something better, which in a sense means towards democracy. At the same time a psi judge doesn't agree with Dredd. Feeling that Dredd has betrayed everyone.
He then comes into contact with Slomo and starts a mass-halicunation(Slomo upping his brain powarz). His idolisation of the "old Dredd" leads him to "become" Judge Death in peoples eyes. Since he wants to judge Dredd for his failings in protecting the system, he sees the system everywhere and in everyone. And everyone must die.
He also makes people halicunate Judge Fire (people see him when they start fires/he makes people start fires), Judge Fear scares people to jump off ledges and kill each other and Jugde Decay can be seen standing besides dead bodies and looking over them.
Dredd then uses ass kicking and Anderson her psi powers cranked up to 11 to seattle the deal. It ends well with just a couple of millions dead, Dredd stands as a reminder that people can be mislead into doing bad stuff. And himself he reminds everyone that building a new system could be more dangerous than destroying one.
Dredd then rides his motorbike into the sunset to the sound of Motörhead - Back at the funny farm. (Of all things, that's the one thing I'd like to see the most :D)
..................erm.................OK...................you'd best get this gold to Alex Garland quickly before someone beats you to it.
P.J Maybe.
The interesting thing about P.J Maybe, in the context of a movie, is that he changes his face all the time. It's part of (adult) P.J's M.O. SO there could be several actors all playing the same part. They would all have to collaborate in order to portray a consistent character. That would be a challenge.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 21 August, 2012, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: Borntohula on 21 August, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
Definitely Booth and Death. I'll try to mix some thoughts into it. The Booth one could tell the origin story (Dredd could have been cloned to become a living symbol, but Fargo lost faith in what he'd done in his last days, a thread Dredd starts to follow) and the Death could be a horror story who deals with the dangers of relying to much on legends and what not.
It's just some ideas I'm throwing -around- into it. Hope I don't come off as s Scotty wannabe writing this, since it's his job to make Wagner and Garland realise that a perfect adaption would have hovering cars and vehicles with CGI-weapons on them ;)
Second movie: Robert L. Booth and Total War.
The democratic march being brutaly struck down with Dredd feeling remorse afterwards. When it's portrayed as a success democrats starts to look for Robert L Booth in the wasteland, in hopes to re-instate him.
Dredd is ordered to assassinate Booth, and sees it himself as a favour for the democrats not to be lead by a creep like Booth.
Third movie: Judge Death & C/o
Dredd having assassinated Booth in some cool way returns to MC1. There he works the system towards something that could lead to something better, which in a sense means towards democracy. At the same time a psi judge doesn't agree with Dredd. Feeling that Dredd has betrayed everyone.
He then comes into contact with Slomo and starts a mass-halicunation(Slomo upping his brain powarz). His idolisation of the "old Dredd" leads him to "become" Judge Death in peoples eyes. Since he wants to judge Dredd for his failings in protecting the system, he sees the system everywhere and in everyone. And everyone must die.
He also makes people halicunate Judge Fire (people see him when they start fires/he makes people start fires), Judge Fear scares people to jump off ledges and kill each other and Jugde Decay can be seen standing besides dead bodies and looking over them.
Dredd then uses ass kicking and Anderson her psi powers cranked up to 11 to seattle the deal. It ends well with just a couple of millions dead, Dredd stands as a reminder that people can be mislead into doing bad stuff. And himself he reminds everyone that building a new system could be more dangerous than destroying one.
Dredd then rides his motorbike into the sunset to the sound of Motörhead - Back at the funny farm. (Of all things, that's the one thing I'd like to see the most :D)
..................erm.................OK...................you'd best get this gold to Alex Garland quickly before someone beats you to it.
Thanks Bates. I was mostly just thinking about what stories I'd want to see as movies, and a mix of Necropolis and Origins came to mind.
I think the cursed earth/origins could make good use of some of the democracy timeline. I'd simply love Dredd having remorse over getting a letter from a kid that died because of the democracy march, and then atone by killing Booth.
The reason to kill Booth came from that I read a piece about America, where a former activist wrote that she really wanted total war to be "better", and that could be a cool angle to give Dredd: Not entirely helping Total war gaining power, but at least making them a bit better by not getting help from a tyrant. I often feel the same when leftists(consider this, that more or less everyone is a leftis in Sweden ;) ) make use of names of bad names to put weight into what they say.
And the hallucinations of Judge Death & co could play quite well into tying the SloMo-case and Dredd's remorse together I think.
Not going to far with sewing everything together, but instead giving it consequences. I really think for example Decay watching over dead bodies like an angel and people being ruled by fire to turn the city ablaze could host quite some 80's Carpenter style thriller/scary movie punch. A dark night with a great piece of the city lit by fire.
The hallucinations could be very hypnotic like those in Batman begins instead of "boogie man" alike, and which would go well with the 3D stuff.
Maybe I'll write something together and post it to 2000ad. I won't give it any hopes on going anywhere, but it can't hurt can it :) Well if I'd get to hear Motörhead - funny farm in a Dredd movie I'd die on the spot, but at least because of awesome happiness.
Quote from: pops1983 on 21 August, 2012, 08:16:08 PM
P.J Maybe.
The interesting thing about P.J Maybe, in the context of a movie, is that he changes his face all the time. It's part of (adult) P.J's M.O. SO there could be several actors all playing the same part. They would all have to collaborate in order to portray a consistent character. That would be a challenge.
He could be a cool "thing" running in the background. Either someone people is quick to call out if for example someone died (bit like Killroy was here) or just having constant news about a killer who seems to go without a face called "given the name/alias PJ Maybe"(like John Doe).
Quote from: Buddy on 21 August, 2012, 01:26:36 PM
Jugde Decay... not familiar with that one....
No of course, it's Judge Mortis. My bad.