Cant find any update about that, no news, just that single picture of Kurt Urban as Dredd, and the Lawmaster.
It confused as there no posters, trailers or anything! Is it on hold for something biggest news release?
I assume any publicity shots,videos etc is still in post production country.
The Film Company shot the Movie as a gritty 18 certificate so that gives you your target audience and this audience might be more difficult to target publicity wise since they already have competing interest, going clubbing, socialising etc.
A lot of Movies are directed at tweenagers [Transformers, Twighlight] so the publicity machine knows what to do basically slap it on a lunch box, Tv adverts, Internet but an older audience might be more of a problem to sell to. How do you generate interest in a futuristic 'Cop' thriller to an audience that cynically feels it's seen it all before? With great difficulty and in that lays the problem. I think they can do it myself but don't expect anything for at least a few months since the Film is [I assume] still in the Post production stage.
Hopefully it get great marketing campaign like District 9... wait and see... some rumour on internet says that it could be straight to the dvd!
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Hopefully it get great marketing campaign like District 9... wait and see... some rumour on internet says that it could be straight to the dvd!
Don't feed the trolls!
Quote from: dweezil2 on 23 June, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Hopefully it get great marketing campaign like District 9... wait and see... some rumour on internet says that it could be straight to the dvd!
Don't feed the trolls!
I heard it was only coming out on Betamax.
They signed big deals for pretty much all territories at last year's Cannes festival, so they have solid distribution in terms of cinema release etc.
To be honest, I have an idea who might be spreading silly rumours about it going straight to DVD!
Seeing as it was filmed in 3D I very much doubt it'll be going straight to DVD.
I heard it was getting a limited release on vinyl and 8 track only :o
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Hopefully it get great marketing campaign like District 9...
Thats what should happen and i have said so half a dozen times.
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2011, 10:44:31 AMIt confused as there no posters, trailers or anything!
Wellllll
http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/dredd-movie-poster/
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2011, 10:44:31 AMIt confused as there no posters, trailers or anything!
Wellllll
http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/dredd-movie-poster/
fixed it for you...
(http://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/dredd-movie-poster.jpg?w=590&h=473)
There is now a close-up too:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/5860001344_79b3d9a220.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewxquinn/5860001344/in/photostream
As a little teaser (if it's a teaser) that's not bad at all.
For some reason the badge looks a bit squished to me, like the affect you get when watching wide screen TV the wrong perspective. This might just be because I'm so used to the comic version of the badge though.
If that's real, that's the very last thing i'd ever have gone with, in that its colours, image, layout and everything is almost exactly the same as the poster for the '95 movie, and indeed the dvd box i have sitting not three feet from where i type this. If it's real.
SBT
Fake.
(and terrible to boot - apologies to the faker)
Quote from: Buddy on 23 June, 2011, 03:57:16 PM
Seeing as it was filmed in 3D I very much doubt it'll be going straight to DVD.
Two discs then?
Leaving aside that the technical execution is not very good (poor model, material, lighting, what looks like stretched blood splat)
Yeah, it looks way too similar the 95 cover.
Mind you, those flyers for (I'm guessing) the shoreline version are cack as well so who knows... if they are real, I imagine (and pray to fucking God) that they're just previz mockups that leaked.
Hmm. I have my doubts. See my avatar for the official logo..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2011, 06:18:57 PM
Hmm. I have my doubts. See my avatar for the official logo..
Yes the whole beak/head region is off.
Yep.
Shallower angle of the top of the badge, the type is different at the base of the letters as well. Even if it was a mockup, I would have imagined they'd have gone to the same source as used for your crew shirt.
You'de think..
That said, it's been a while since I saw the actual badge..
Fake badge looks like a used sanitary pad! :o
Its definately not official.
Also the text in the poster is out of focus so you cant read it which seems to be deliberate or else it never occured to whoever took the picture that others might be interested in reading the credits.The only thing i can make out is "Lionsgate".If there is no marketing campaign yet this early on then i doubt that posters have been printed for it.Someone has seen the Michealvk logo and designed and printed their own poster.
"my friends dad worked on the movie"
I wont believe that until i see the poster advertising the film officially.
..on that note, if anyone 'official' gives me crap about 'leaking the logo', then they shouldn't have had 300-odd t-shirts printed, and that excludes the shirts done for lighting, grips etc. etc.. ;)
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 06:36:36 PMAlso the text in the poster is out of focus so you cant read it which seems to be deliberate or else it never occured to whoever took the picture that others might be interested in reading the credits.The only thing i can make out is "Lionsgate".
If you get the largest version you can zoom in. Credits seem OK:
QuoteLionsgate and Reliance Big Entertainment present a DNA Film production a film by Pete Travis Karl Urban Dredd Olivia Thirlby with Jason Cope, etc.
Ends with:
QuoteScreenplay by Alex Garland based on characters created by John Wagner Carlos Ezquerra
No mention of 2000AD though, not even the logo in the bottom line. Also would it not say "a film by Pete Travis starring Karl Urban..."?
I can read it fine. I guess they could have been nabbed from IMDB though, if someone really wanted to fake it, for whatever mental reason.
I find that pretty unlikely that it's a photoshop job - it's technically rough, but looks like a legit photo of rough mockup.
I reckon it's a mockup that some guy has thought 'My son will like that' and taken it home, and will probably get a right bollocking at least.
- Steve
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 06:36:36 PMAlso the text in the poster is out of focus so you cant read it which seems to be deliberate or else it never occured to whoever took the picture that others might be interested in reading the credits.The only thing i can make out is "Lionsgate".
If you get the largest version you can zoom in. Credits seem OK:
I dont get it as i have looked at the larger photo in flikr and its a close up of the badge without the lower part of the poster.
Never mind as i am probably missing something or doing something wrong.Anyway if this poster is genuine then there must be more of them around and if 300 T shirts were given out then its possible that lots of posters have been given out and if so then they will appear online in due course and if the poster is fake then they wont.
ISTR that a while ago, Jock Tweeted that he was working on a poster for Dredd.
Now that is going to be one to look forward to...
Oh, and it's Dredd (2012).
The individual who uploaded the picture is a massive fan of JD so it seems a bit too much of a coincidence that his friends dad just happened to be working on the film.
This is one of those if it seems too good to be true then it is situations.As for the poster itself i dont like it as it looks like something from the 90s and also the i dont like the splatter of blood as if the film is a splatterfest which i dont think it is and i doubt that those who are at some point in the future but god knows when who will be promoting it will promote it as a splatterfest.I dont like the design of the badge either.
Its a fanboys mock up poster.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 06:36:36 PMAlso the text in the poster is out of focus so you cant read it which seems to be deliberate or else it never occured to whoever took the picture that others might be interested in reading the credits.The only thing i can make out is "Lionsgate".
If you get the largest version you can zoom in. Credits seem OK:
I dont get it as i have looked at the larger photo in flikr and its a close up of the badge without the lower part of the poster.
You'll want this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewxquinn/5838463913/in/photostream
Click through to find download the larger version and you can open it in Windows Picture Viewer (or something similar) and zoom into the text.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 07:20:39 PM
The individual who uploaded the picture is a massive fan of JD so it seems a bit too much of a coincidence that his friends dad just happened to be working on the film.
Yes indeed. If you look at his account he has two other posters from two Dredd movies that never happened:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewxquinn/5839037204/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewxquinn/5839037258/in/photostream
Are they right? They look like rather poor quality digital mock-ups but someone like CF would be able to tell us if he isn't already round at that guy's house sneaking in through a window with a bag marked "swag."
It'd be odd for one person to get their hands on those
and the mock-up of the new movie poster.
Also there is no Quinn listed in the crew for the film on IMDB (although there are two for the Stallone version), although that might not mean anything.
It made BC:
www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/
Quote from: Mardroid on 23 June, 2011, 05:40:15 PMFor some reason the badge looks a bit squished to me, like the affect you get when watching wide screen TV the wrong perspective. This might just be because I'm so used to the comic version of the badge though.
No, it looks wrong because whoever took the picture is pointing the camera from an
low-angle below the poster.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
Also the text in the poster is out of focus so you cant read it which seems to be deliberate or else it never occured to whoever took the picture that others might be interested in reading the credits.
Think of it like the
near/far scene in 'Father Ted'.
I should film a trailer with all my models and put that up on the web and see if everyone believes that ;)
Mock-up or not, I quite like it. Sorry.
It's simple and effective. The badge is an iconic image with Dredd. If it channels the '95 movie that's too bad but in terms of grabbing anyone's attention, this more than does the job and really, what other image are you going to tease people with for a Dredd movie? It's from the same source. Some of the imagery's too good not to reuse as promotional concepts. Can't worry about reminding people there's a crap version based on the same character. Just have to convince them this version's (hopefully) better.
I think the splatter's great as well though. If there's one aspect that separates it from the Stallone version, it's that. Reminds me of America. "Justice Is Coming". The fascist imagery of the badge covered in blood. Kickass. Hope it's not a mock-up. I'd have that on my wall in a heartbeat.
Also, the other two posters he has up are shite and this one at least looks like it's a step beyond his pathetic Photoshop skills...
the tyres on that badge are far too thin. It doesn't look like the badge in the comic so the movie's going to be shit. They haven't released a twenty minute trailer so it's obviously been cancelled.
there. No need to read the rest of the thread now. :)
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
Yes indeed. If you look at his account he has two other posters from two Dredd movies that never happened:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewxquinn/5839037204/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewxquinn/5839037258/in/photostream
Are they right? They look like rather poor quality digital mock-ups but someone like CF would be able to tell us if he isn't already round at that guy's house sneaking in through a window with a bag marked "swag."
They are the old
Shoreline posters - utilising the Dredd model at the time - they were on the Shoreline web-site yonks ago and yes, they were and are
shite.
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
Also there is no Quinn listed in the crew for the film on IMDB (although there are two for the Stallone version), although that might not mean anything.
Well Quinn wouldn't be a clue since 'Quinn' is the bloke who's 'friend's' dad supposedly worked on the film?
So- so far everything 'the general public' knows about this movie can be summed up in: a blurry photo of possibly urban's stand-in, a fat man on a motorbike going past a brick wall, and a dodgy poster that may or may not be knocked up in someone's bedroom. And some beaten up old transit vans in a car park.
This is either the single greatest marketing campaign in movie history, or they really need to do some damage limitation, fast.
SBT
And... been taken down from the flickr stream.
Oh it's been taken down already?
Well if it WAS IS the poster to promote the Movie it had has a clear, strong image. Goody.
Interesting. More than likely official then. Just in time for San Diego Comic-Con next month...
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 June, 2011, 07:53:01 PM
This is either the single greatest marketing campaign in movie history, or they really need to do some damage limitation, fast.
SBT
They've
been doing damage limitation. That's why we haven't seen anything official yet. When they do, we'll see a big difference. Can we please not steer this thread the way all the others have gone...?
I really hope not.
I really, really hope that it is not a final teaser poster.
Design aside, technically it's not up to snuff.
Those other posters on his site have been on the web for years, as I have them saved on the laptop in my Dredd files. I think I first saw them on the MegaCity Justice site!
By the way, this poster reminds me of some of the SEGA stuff I have but that's in the attic and I'm off to work soon, so I'll try and check tomorrow!
It's not the texture I would have chosen to render the badge with, it's true, but it's no worse than most movie early teaser posters. Mind you, that says more about the state of the current movie poster in general than anything else...
Sorry, I'd have to disagree, as a mockup, yeah fine...
but as a finished piece. Not even close to acceptable IMHO.
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 June, 2011, 08:01:09 PM
They've been doing damage limitation. That's why we haven't seen anything official yet. When they do, we'll see a big difference. Can we please not steer this thread the way all the others have gone...?
No, they haven't. They've done nothing. That's not "damage limitation", that's doing nothing. And as a result of doing nothing, other people have filled the vacuum. We can bleat on about "giving them time" and "small advertising budgets" til the cows come home, but all that's going to happen is people are going to latch onto whatever morsels they get thrown. And if DNA don't throw them, someone else will.
People WANT to talk about this movie- but they want something to talk about. How many people have signed up here in the last few months and said they did so "because of the upcoming movie"? And yet, there's nothing there.
We can try not to steer the thread in the direction the others have gone, yes, but this is a discussion forum- and people will discuss it. And if they feel they can't do so here, they'll do it on facebook, or Twitter, where it'll reach a much wider audience. Advertising doesn't seem to be about "getting people to talk about your product" now, it's about getting them to talk about the things you
want them to talk about- because if they are interested, they're going to fill that terrifying empty space that is their status update with
something.
SBT
Quote from: Michaelvk on 23 June, 2011, 06:41:51 PM
..on that note, if anyone 'official' gives me crap about 'leaking the logo', then they shouldn't have had 300-odd t-shirts printed, and that excludes the shirts done for lighting, grips etc. etc.. ;)
What else are you supposed to do with T Shirts other than keeping them at home hidden out of sight ?
can anyone else tell what kind of surface the poster was pinned up on ?
I cant but i can tell that its not a wall and it must be some kind of soft material that small pins can stick into and its some kind of faux textured stone effect or it could be wallpapaer but there is that odd line or seam down the right hand side.
Well, it looks like we won't have to wait much longer - if they've made up posters then it's a safe bet that they'll finally be showing something at SDCC, which takes place in a months time.
BTW, the clampdown/blackout on leaks, news and the like is most likely to do with Lionsgate, who are notoriously fiercely protective of their IP. I'd imagine that DNA would like to show stuff and spread the word but their hands are tied.
Presumably Lionsgate have ordered the blackout so that the SDCC push will get maximum impact. This is all speculation, mind.
Could be worse, could be X-Men: First Class, Dredd's helmet could be in his crotch and not the right 'elmet either.
I actually don't think the poster is that bad. The blood looks a bit dodgy, but otherwise I took it at face value - and I can usually spot fake/fan posters from a mile off.
The similarity to the Stallone Dredd poster is unfortunate, though. Somehow this didn't even occur to me until somebody pointed it out!
In any case, it's just the teaser. As I mentioned earlier, Jock is doing one of the 'proper' posters, so it's fair to say that will be stunning.
Well Fake image does looks better than 1995 version, cos 1995 got "Judge" in it and text in red! :o :o
(http://img.movieberry.com/static/photos/44354/poster.jpg)
I've only realised now that the eagle on that '95 badge has a little gold Judge helmet on it's head...Jaysus can that film get any more ridiculous as the years go by...
He's wearing a codpiece behind the shield...
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
I've only realised now that the eagle on that '95 badge has a little gold Judge helmet on it's head...Jaysus can that film get any more ridiculous as the years go by...
Blinkin' flip, yer not wrong there! Can't believe I never noticed that before...
(http://www.michaelowencarroll.com/pics/eaglehead.jpg)
Same here - never noticed :lol:
Quote from: radiator on 23 June, 2011, 08:39:51 PM
In any case, it's just the teaser. As I mentioned earlier, Jock is doing one of the 'proper' posters, so it's fair to say that will be stunning.
I think that will suit the film a lot better somehow as the poster we are talking about had a kind of cliched major blockbuster/event movie look about it along with its "Justice is coming" soundbite or whatever you call it.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 23 June, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: radiator on 23 June, 2011, 08:39:51 PM
In any case, it's just the teaser. As I mentioned earlier, Jock is doing one of the 'proper' posters, so it's fair to say that will be stunning.
I think that will suit the film a lot better somehow as the poster we are talking about had a kind of cliched major blockbuster/event movie look about it along with its "Justice is coming" soundbite or whatever you call it.
Others here liked it and i am not trying to drag it down or being contentious as its just my own opinion.
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 23 June, 2011, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 June, 2011, 08:01:09 PM
They've been doing damage limitation. That's why we haven't seen anything official yet. When they do, we'll see a big difference. Can we please not steer this thread the way all the others have gone...?
No, they haven't. They've done nothing. That's not "damage limitation", that's doing nothing. And as a result of doing nothing, other people have filled the vacuum. We can bleat on about "giving them time" and "small advertising budgets" til the cows come home, but all that's going to happen is people are going to latch onto whatever morsels they get thrown. And if DNA don't throw them, someone else will.
People WANT to talk about this movie- but they want something to talk about. How many people have signed up here in the last few months and said they did so "because of the upcoming movie"? And yet, there's nothing there.
We can try not to steer the thread in the direction the others have gone, yes, but this is a discussion forum- and people will discuss it. And if they feel they can't do so here, they'll do it on facebook, or Twitter, where it'll reach a much wider audience. Advertising doesn't seem to be about "getting people to talk about your product" now, it's about getting them to talk about the things you want them to talk about- because if they are interested, they're going to fill that terrifying empty space that is their status update with something.
SBT
Oh for fuck's sake. I would say firing MichaelVK and closing down a bunch of sites counts as 'Damage Limitation'! They didn't have any control over the pics that have been released outside of the one in the costume so clearly they only want to release images and promo material when they're happy with what they've got to show. I hate to break it to you but all advertising
ever has been getting you to talk about the things they
want you to talk about. That's the whole point of advertising in the first place!
Anyway, I wasn't saying the lack so far of material released shouldn't be talked about on this forum, just that there's ten other threads dealing with it already and it's kind of refreshing having at least one that doesn't, is all. But whatever. Clog away with all the same arguments that have already been covered elsewhere...
Quote from: Goaty on 23 June, 2011, 08:53:19 PM
Well Fake image does looks better than 1995 version, cos 1995 got "Judge" in it and text in red! :o :o
(http://img.movieberry.com/static/photos/44354/poster.jpg)
....and looks shit.
New poster's alright. It's a Dredd badge. Unlike the '95 one, which is something... else.
To think some people believe marketing companies should respond to the antics/whims of fans...I don't see the sense.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 June, 2011, 10:36:48 PM
Amazing to think some people believe marketing companies should respond to the antics/whims of fans.
Internet's ruined people. "Now, now now!!!!! Where is it?!! Why haven't I gotten it yet!!!!???"
I refer to Louis CK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=related
I'm honestly not that fussed about what appears when, as long as it's good.
I still think that teaser poster (if final) is unimaginative in concept, and a bit shit in execution though.
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
It made BC:
www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/
Which has this:
QuoteBrendon UPDATES: I'm sure it's a fake. There are logos for Millennium and Nu Image who aren't producers on the film.
I thought Jock was working on the teaser poster (apologies if already been said here) :o
I believe they shot Dredd & it's porn parody back-to-back, so to speak, and that both are in post-production. They're holding-on this year to allow for a prerelease build-up that will result in a dual-cinematronic climax next year.
SBT
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I hate to break it to you but all advertising ever has been getting you to talk about the things they want you to talk about. That's the whole point of advertising in the first place!
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I work in advertising, the principle first point is AWARENESS.A famous industry example is Smiths Crisps, for a long time , a market leader when some smart director thought 'we're the market leader, we don't need to advertise', the budget was slashed dramatically -Walkers Crisps tore them apart and is the new market leader.Huge brand leaders learnt the lesson and so continually advertise.
If fans will willingly ,and freely, promote your product with very little effort (ie a few officila photos, stills etc) then, in my humble opinion it is folly to not exploit this asset to it's fullest. :|
PS Look closely at the picture of the big fat man on the 'Lawmaster', being a character 'method' actor he later felt compelled to lock himself in an iso-cube for 30 days for travelling the wrong way up a one way street :lol:
You seriously expect me to believe that when the marketing blitz begins it won't matter to people who are interested in the movie because they remember that picture of a fat bloke on the motorcycle instead...? That makes no sense. All that nonsense will be forgotten the second some cool stuff starts being released like every other movie released ever!
And once again, for the millionth (almost literally now, surely) time, it's not like they're NOT going to promote the movie. It's not like they don't want some fans to start spreading good word of mouth. It's just not the time yet! It's not getting released until next year!!!
Would you start promoting a product when you've no idea what the packaging is going to look like, what it's going to taste like and when you're going to make it available to the public? Surely if you work in advertising you also appreciate the matter of timing your advertising so it's most advantageous to your product...?
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 June, 2011, 01:15:20 AMAnd once again, for the millionth (almost literally now, surely) time, it's not like they're NOT going to promote the movie. It's not like they don't want some fans to start spreading good word of mouth. It's just not the time yet! It's not getting released until next year!!!
Would you start promoting a product when you've no idea what the packaging is going to look like, what it's going to taste like and when you're going to make it available to the public? Surely if you work in advertising you also appreciate the matter of timing your advertising so it's most advantageous to your product...?
Quoted for truth.
Apologies for parroting the same thing again and again but promotion for the film could begin as something low key like a website to raise awareness before the promotional/advertising campaign begins so that a certain amount of interest has been generated to maximise the potential of the promotional campaign.
Oh mother of god. I give up.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 24 June, 2011, 01:36:22 AM
Apologies for parroting the same thing again and again but promotion for the film could begin as something low key like a website to raise awareness before the promotional/advertising campaign begins so that a certain amount of interest has been generated to maximise the potential of the promotional campaign.
As the promotional campaign hasn't begun, I assume such a site will pop up. I'm sure an enterprising soul could have a nose through possibilities and look up the domain registrations - it should be easy enough to track down ones to watch.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 24 June, 2011, 12:53:48 AMI work in advertising, the principle first point is AWARENESS.A famous industry example is Smiths Crisps, for a long time , a market leader when some smart director thought 'we're the market leader, we don't need to advertise', the budget was slashed dramatically -Walkers Crisps tore them apart and is the new market leader.Huge brand leaders learnt the lesson and so continually advertise.
If fans will willingly ,and freely, promote your product with very little effort (ie a few officila photos, stills etc) then, in my humble opinion it is folly to not exploit this asset to it's fullest.
PS Look closely at the picture of the big fat man on the 'Lawmaster', being a character 'method' actor he later felt compelled to lock himself in an iso-cube for 30 days for travelling the wrong way up a one way street
Limited/controlled advertising hasn't harmed
Rise of the Planet of the Apes one iota, it's had the opposite effect I believe. It's a
genre film I would consider
Dredd almost on a par with in expectation and interest. The very first image came in March 2011, footage in April -
absolutely nothing/zilch prior to that during or after the shoot since February 2010 other than one spy shot of James Franco in a t-shirt and the film is due in August 2011.
It's been a measured and steady campaign build up, the latest trailer is brilliantly cut and is growing an interested audience cos the goods are
now ready. The advertising for that film only started 5 months before release, again
5 months from first official release image to premiere. Dredd ain't even out till next year. This has been pretty much a standard for most genre films lately and for good reason.
If you think a film with story, characters, big visuals/sound/music/expectations is like a
bag of crisps, maybe you should be advertising bikes for fat blokes. Advertising is not one-size-fits-all, nothing is.
BLOODY HELL!!! I go offline for twenty-four hours, come back and get immediatly hit with a possible teaser poster for Dredd- and I'm already FIVE pages behind on a new thread, you guys have been burning up the 'net the last few hours, damn!- when did this possible teaser poster hit the web!? I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say it's a fake, it just doesn't pass the smell taste, and I think Joe Soap is right, I wouldn't expect to see anything official until SDCC at least, and this autumn/fall at most, still, that first glimpse of the poster nearly gave me a heart attack...
Aw dang it, I just saw that I wrote "pass the smell taste", I meant to say "... test", sorry 'bout that!
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 June, 2011, 01:41:16 AM
Oh mother of god. I give up.
Heh... I reached that point a few months ago!
I dont understand why they have'nt gone with a Judge Minty kind of approach, it's easy enough to knock out a quick night stick round someones head image with a flash of the badge or the lawgiver pointed at someone with photoshop. This maybe a fake but is more likely a promo image done when the film was still in pre production just for the people holding the money, a taster.
I've got a feeling there'll be some official stuff coming around august..
Judge Minty approach?
Surely these are different beasts. Judge Minty is drumming up suport to take part in the picture as well as awareness of the end product. They are IN their promotional campaign and have a good idea of the images they are using etc.
The other film, will do all of this when the time is right. Joe gives a very good example.
A lot of you seem to be saying, in essence, "I know they haven't started the promotional campaign yet but why can't they do some promotion?"
Oh and remember when this is over, just because they may have been proved wrong to take an approach, doesn't automatically mean it would have been right to follow your suggested approach.
Oh and I should add that in EDGE this month, there's quite a nice little Opinion piece by that guy whose name is an unweildy collection of constanants all about the strange sense of entitlement that fans feel they have.
(I think his last line is wrong though).
Why DO so many people feel that they are anything more than just a paying customer for this film? (Or, in fact, the comic).
Brand Loyalty!
We feel we're contributing to Judge Dredd by buying the Product [comics, megazine,t-shirts,mugs etc], posting our myriad opinions on this website and are therefore giving something towards the future success of the DREDD movie. Surely we are 'owed' some equivalent users debt of knowledge by 2000AD? 'Fraid not folks DNA or Rebellion 'owe' us nothing. We're customers same as anyone else.
The fact we feel a sense of entitlement due to our appreciation of 2000A.D and Judge Dredd is the social Ape inside us. Having shown Loyalty and deference to 2000AD and the Film makers we feel we're getting rebuffed by them for their apparent unwillingness to share every minuscule detail of the Movie with us.
Millions of dollars were sunk into the DREDD Production along with all the hassle of Producing, shooting and finalizing the finished Film and the fact this MIGHT just be more important to the Film makers than our yowling to be informed hasn't occured to some here. After all we Forum users, well we're a bit 'special' aren't we? Surely DNA or someone else will happily give away all the Films secrets just cause we happen to be regular Forum users?
NO! Lots of money has been spent by the Film makers already and an 18 certificate film is a pretty hard sell to boot so they have to be very strict promotion wise since any revelation could destroy whatever shocks or Dramatic twist they have planned. Imagine if the Sixth Sense final revelation had been leaked to the Press? What would be the point of going to the Movie? None. Nope it's their Movie, THEIR MANOR SQUIRE. They'll provide promo stuff soon as their ready too.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 June, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
Brand Loyalty!
We feel we're contributing to Judge Dredd by buying the Product [comics, megazine,t-shirts,mugs etc], posting our myriad opinions on this website and are therefore giving something towards the future success of the DREDD movie. Surely we are 'owed' some equivalent users debt of knowledge by 2000AD? 'Fraid not folks DNA or Rebellion 'owe' us nothing. We're customers same as anyone else.
The fact we feel a sense of entitlement due to our appreciation of 2000A.D and Judge Dredd is the social Ape inside us. Having shown Loyalty and deference to 2000AD and the Film makers we feel we're getting rebuffed by them for their apparent unwillingness to share every minuscule detail of the Movie with us.
Millions of dollars were sunk into the DREDD Production along with all the hassle of Producing, shooting and finalizing the finished Film and the fact this MIGHT just be more important to the Film makers than our yowling to be informed hasn't occured to some here. After all we Forum users, well we're a bit 'special' aren't we? Surely DNA or someone else will happily give away all the Films secrets just cause we happen to be regular Forum users?
NO! Lots of money has been spent by the Film makers already and an 18 certificate film is a pretty hard sell to boot so they have to be very strict promotion wise since any revelation could destroy whatever shocks or Dramatic twist they have planned. Imagine if the Sixth Sense final revelation had been leaked to the Press? What would be the point of going to the Movie? None. Nope it's their Movie, THEIR MANOR SQUIRE. They'll provide promo stuff soon as their ready too.
Yes, but can't they just show us a picture of Anderson?
I'm joking. I agree with you 100% but I have a feeling you're wasting your breath.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 June, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
NO! Lots of money has been spent by the Film makers already and an 18 certificate film is a pretty hard sell to boot so they have to be very strict promotion wise since any revelation could destroy whatever shocks or Dramatic twist they have planned. Imagine if the Sixth Sense final revelation had been leaked to the Press? What would be the point of going to the Movie? None. Nope it's their Movie, THEIR MANOR SQUIRE. They'll provide promo stuff soon as their ready too.
It's more likely the film will be an R/15 certificate to maximise ticket sales-the film makers wish to make a prophet after all.
And just to echo the comments of others-can we all just relax, the bloody film isn't out until next year! :o
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 June, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
Brand Loyalty!
We feel we're contributing to Judge Dredd by buying the Product [comics, megazine,t-shirts,mugs etc], posting our myriad opinions on this website and are therefore giving something towards the future success of the DREDD movie. Surely we are 'owed' some equivalent users debt of knowledge by 2000AD? 'Fraid not folks DNA or Rebellion 'owe' us nothing. We're customers same as anyone else.
The fact we feel a sense of entitlement due to our appreciation of 2000A.D and Judge Dredd is the social Ape inside us. Having shown Loyalty and deference to 2000AD and the Film makers we feel we're getting rebuffed by them for their apparent unwillingness to share every minuscule detail of the Movie with us.
Millions of dollars were sunk into the DREDD Production along with all the hassle of Producing, shooting and finalizing the finished Film and the fact this MIGHT just be more important to the Film makers than our yowling to be informed hasn't occured to some here. After all we Forum users, well we're a bit 'special' aren't we? Surely DNA or someone else will happily give away all the Films secrets just cause we happen to be regular Forum users?
NO! Lots of money has been spent by the Film makers already and an 18 certificate film is a pretty hard sell to boot so they have to be very strict promotion wise since any revelation could destroy whatever shocks or Dramatic twist they have planned. Imagine if the Sixth Sense final revelation had been leaked to the Press? What would be the point of going to the Movie? None. Nope it's their Movie, THEIR MANOR SQUIRE. They'll provide promo stuff soon as their ready too.
'The Customer is always wrong'
'The Customer should never be listened to'
'Any query/question of said customer should not even be acknowledged, let alone responded to'
'Any suggestions from said customers should be met with derision/contempt/ both'
'Customer loyalty should neither be recognised or acknowledged, (will only result in increasing customer loyalty numbers)'
Follow the above and where can you go wrong?
Having done the opposite with my business for 15 years -I have never ,ever received a single complaint.DNA is missing a trick, but clearly we will never agree.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 24 June, 2011, 06:03:58 PM
'The Customer is always wrong'
'The Customer should never be listened to'
'Any query/question of said customer should not even be acknowledged, let alone responded to'
'Any suggestions from said customers should be met with derision/contempt/ both'
'Customer loyalty should neither be recognised or acknowledged, (will only result in increasing customer loyalty numbers)'
Follow the above and where can you go wrong?
Having done the opposite with my business for 15 years -I have never ,ever received a single complaint.DNA is missing a trick, but clearly we will never agree.
The movie business does not conform to conventional logic
If it did we wouldn't have to endure the lazy sequels and poorly conceived movies we often have to.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 24 June, 2011, 06:03:58 PM
'The Customer is always wrong'
'The Customer should never be listened to'
'Any query/question of said customer should not even be acknowledged, let alone responded to'
'Any suggestions from said customers should be met with derision/contempt/ both'
'Customer loyalty should neither be recognised or acknowledged, (will only result in increasing customer loyalty numbers)'
I don't see how any of that applies to this film and DNA. We haven't yet bought anything from them they've produced to complain about. Rebellion don't control the film-making and promotion.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 24 June, 2011, 11:27:01 AM
I've got a feeling there'll be some official stuff coming around august..
This August coming or next August ??
:lol: ∆ust in case anyone thought i was being serious
From Den of the Geek:
Genuine?
I'm sure DoG picked it up from the same sources as the rest...
Not that it isn't genuine. I don't know.
It matches the badge design ( in Michealvk's avatar ) to a tee.
No it doesn't - the top of it is all wrong.
Quote from: Mardroid on 24 June, 2011, 07:13:56 PM
I'm sure DoG picked it up from the same sources as the rest...
Yep they got it from BC who got it from ECBT2000AD:
www.denofgeek.com/movies/953842/could_this_be_dredds_first_teaser_poster.html
I still haven't seen anyone shoot this down in flames yet though.
There's a tweet here (The Daily Blam) which says Lionsgate have said it's not official.
http://twitter.com/#!/Poni_Boy (http://twitter.com/#!/Poni_Boy)
Even that tweet of denial has the air of 'unofficial' about it.
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 June, 2011, 07:37:49 PM
There's a tweet here (The Daily Blam) which says Lionsgate have said it's not official.
http://twitter.com/#!/Poni_Boy (http://twitter.com/#!/Poni_Boy)
More of a twat than a tweet.
The only thing that makes me think it's going to be official is that it's not a screengrab. Somebody actually printed up the poster and took a pic of it.
Quote from: blackmocco on 24 June, 2011, 08:30:15 PM
The only thing that makes me think it's going to be official is that it's not a screengrab. Somebody actually printed up the poster and took a pic of it.
You'd be surprised what people will do even when they do it badly.
Aye, that's true of course...
Quote from: TordelBack on 24 June, 2011, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 June, 2011, 07:37:49 PM
There's a tweet here (The Daily Blam) which says Lionsgate have said it's not official.
http://twitter.com/#!/Poni_Boy (http://twitter.com/#!/Poni_Boy)
More of a twat than a tweet.
I could spend hours and hours and hours reading all those tweets and not get bored.
There 4 new trailers out today! But sadly still nothing Dredd teaser etc....
I assume the mentioned release date has already been moved back due to post production requirements. DREDD's trailer wil come when it's HD ready frustrating though that might be for us eager beavers here on the forum.
I keep trying to imagine the first frames of the Trailer. Will it be DREDD's, bullet ridden blood soaked badge? A swooping shot of Mega City 1? Or my favourite a close up of Judge Anderson's leather clad bum? Imagination >sigh< you can't beat it.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 29 June, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
I assume the mentioned release date has already been moved back due to post production requirements. DREDD's trailer wil come when it's HD ready frustrating though that might be for us eager beavers here on the forum.
I don't believe there was ever a 'delay' issue.
There's never been a release date mentioned other than the IMDB one -which was
originally scheduled as 2012 when created- but they aren't 'official' anyway. From the earliest press it had been a 2012 film and it remains so according to DNA. No moving back as such. To have expected it to be out within the year considering it only stopped shooting in February/March would have been unusually soon for a film of it's kind.
Its almost identical to the Stallone one isnt it? which makes me doubt its real.
Wot no JD film teaser trailer yet ?
Its as if some just expect one to magically appear on the web at any time !
There should be a seperate No JD film news thread.
[Thats sarcasm directed at the idea of anything appearing rather than not appearing]
Poster is, not surprisingly, fake.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/)
Quote from: MarsHottentot on 01 July, 2011, 12:04:44 AM
Poster is, not surprisingly, fake.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/)
It's been a 'fake' for the last week...
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 23 June, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
It made BC:
www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/23/a-teaser-poster-for-dredd/
Which has this:
QuoteBrendon UPDATES: I'm sure it's a fake. There are logos for Millennium and Nu Image who aren't producers on the film.
WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE? I've not seen a new post on the Dredd forums for nearly five days, do I smell that bad...!?
Try looking elsewhere on the site where people talk about the Dreddverse in all its prog-like glory ::)
Think the movie talk has run out of steam,untill theres more news,seems like years ago that Dredd karl urban pic showed up! :(
was in studio with film Doom, ruined by crappest ending, but Urban does looks like Dredd there....
The release date for the Dredd Movie is 03/01/2012.
Oh Yeh Baby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit).
V
outstanding better then the spring date doing the rounds :)
Quote from: vzzbux on 05 July, 2011, 08:14:52 PM
The release date for the Dredd Movie is 03/01/2012.
Oh Yeh Baby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit).
Wait, what?
Are you yanking my crank or not?
No, it's true.
Thank Grud for that.
FYI, just found an interesting article/assignment online at Film Education (dot org) about the marketing of the first Judge <cough> (not really) <cough> Dredd movie.
http://www.filmeducation.org/pdf/film/JDredd.pdf (http://www.filmeducation.org/pdf/film/JDredd.pdf)
Worth reading and comparing against the current timelines and marketing for this Dredd.
Last article in TIME mag:
Quote
The creators of the british comic strip Judge Dredd imagined Mega-City One as a colossal metropolis in the postapocalyptic near future stretching from Boston to Washington, home to 400 million people living in 200-story blocks. Baden Powell Drive is a highway linking South Africa's historic wine country and the tin-shack township of Khayelitsha outside Cape Town, with wide verges favored by prostitutes and goats. Yet here, in four giant hangars by the roadside, a crew and a cast of hundreds are making Dredd, which they hope will be one of next year's biggest action movies. Why here? "There are only a few places in the world that can handle this kind of movie," says Dredd's British co-producer Andrew MacDonald, whose credits include Trainspotting, The Beach and The Last King of Scotland. "South Africa is comparable to any of them."
Versatility and convenience of location — all those landscapes are within a few hours' drive of Cape Town — are keys to South Africa's moviemaking appeal. So is cost. By making Dredd in South Africa, where a nonunion cast and crew is cheaper than it would be in Europe and the U.S. and the government rebates up to 25% of production costs, MacDonald says he can make "something that will look like $100 million" for less than half that figure. Dredd co-producer Michael Murphy concurs. "South Africa is in the business of making movies that cost half as much as they look," he says.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2063730,00.html#ixzz1RHLwJBFg
Prostitutes and goats??
I'm not entirely sure if I should be offended by that..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 July, 2011, 01:18:00 AM
Prostitutes and goats??
I'm not entirely sure if I should be offended by that..
Now we know what you got up to during your lunch break :lol:.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 06 July, 2011, 01:18:00 AM
Prostitutes and goats??
I'm not entirely sure if I should be offended by that..
Admit it, you're aroused and curious.
Are you sure the release date is March 1st 2012? Where'd you get that info from, and has it been confirmed by DNA Films, Lionsgate, or Entertainment UK...? If that's true, we're certain to get a teaser trailer (at least) in the next month or two...
Hang on a minute, is that potential Dredd release date March 1st 2012 or January 3rd 2012, it depends where you got the info from (North America is month/day/year, whereas we in the UK and Ireland are day/month/year), shoulda asked this before posting above :-[ ,sorry...
Check this out, found it on Jock's Twitter account- pretty amazing- http://www.taringa.net/posts/arte/10608045/Judge-Dredd---Terminado_-paso-a-paso.html, enjoy...
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 06 July, 2011, 05:16:11 AM
Check this out, found it on Jock's Twitter account- pretty amazing- http://www.taringa.net/posts/arte/10608045/Judge-Dredd---Terminado_-paso-a-paso.html, enjoy...
That is a frickin' awesome model!
Marred a bit by screen caps of a certain movie from '95 and links to rapidshare which may or may not go AAAAARRRRR!
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 06 July, 2011, 05:16:11 AM
Check this out, found it on Jock's Twitter account- pretty amazing- http://www.taringa.net/posts/arte/10608045/Judge-Dredd---Terminado_-paso-a-paso.html, enjoy...
Very cool model! Wow!! Joe Dredd unmasked looks alot like Frank Castle!
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 06 July, 2011, 04:06:40 AMAre you sure the release date is March 1st 2012? Where'd you get that info from
It was augured in the tea-leaves.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2011, 09:04:33 AM
It was augured in the tea-leaves.
Wasn't it in Gadaffi's speech to the UN?
Quote from: vzzbux on 05 July, 2011, 08:14:52 PM
The release date for the Dredd Movie is 03/01/2012.
Damn, I thought you meant 3rd January, and got over excited 'cos that's my birthday, but you're using that silly American system aren't you?
January? Only 7 months to go!
Quote from: weehawk on 06 July, 2011, 06:11:51 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 06 July, 2011, 05:16:11 AM
Check this out, found it on Jock's Twitter account- pretty amazing- http://www.taringa.net/posts/arte/10608045/Judge-Dredd---Terminado_-paso-a-paso.html, enjoy...
Very cool model! Wow!! Joe Dredd unmasked looks alot like Frank Castle!
Unmasked? What heresy is this?
That model is stunning,I demand it be mass produced and sold to me immediately.
Outstanding model,dredd looks like jack palance! :lol:
Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 July, 2011, 10:31:46 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 05 July, 2011, 08:14:52 PM
The release date for the Dredd Movie is 03/01/2012.
Damn, I thought you meant 3rd January, and got over excited 'cos that's my birthday, but you're using that silly American system aren't you?
I was going for 3rd of Jan 2012 as that is my 40th birthday and would love it as a birthday prezzy.
Edit: it was a slow day and nothing was happening on the movie front so I threw that date in. Has it made it to other sites yet?
V
Fuck that date-shit, Joe Dredd was a gay-ambulance-driver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrDh5k_qVlk&feature=related
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 July, 2011, 09:17:59 PM
Fuck that date-shit, Joe Dredd was a gay-ambulance-driver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrDh5k_qVlk&feature=related
Dredd and Jango Fett together.
V
Two clone-boys shootin' the breeze.
(http://www.liveforfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/judge-fett.jpg)
I have posted this before but worth viewing again.
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f34/judge-valcar-2000ad-crossover-project-18756/
(http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/attachments/f34/judge-valcar-2000ad-crossover-project-full-outfit-front-helmet-tdh.jpg-18613d1183152110)
V
Interesting but looks a bit like something out-of the Wiz and lose the rash-ridden cod-piece.
Judge Fett would have been a great fun. As a successful Bounty Hunter he'd be familiar with the criminal mind and it's selfish thinking. Perhaps we should send him to investigate Murdoch and the News of the World.
I just spotted something interesting..
A few of the guys I know have been sharing a link to what I can only nail down as a sound guy's picture album on facebook, who was apparently taking lots of cellphone pics and has now posted them.. All I could think of was "oooh dear.. If I got into trouble for two tiny pics and a hint, what's this guy going to get.." Not only are they bad pics, he also calls it 'Judge Dread'... Ugh..
..and the reason I didn't link to it is because the pics will do more harm than good..
Wise decision. Have you told this guy to delete them sharpish? As much as I'd like to see them myself, I don't want more badly shot, unflattering stuff making its way out there.
This is the guy...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kJWWRipRdSk/SNBQQ1xLZ3I/AAAAAAAAApM/CZOLkbGYpoY/s400/JudgeDreadRubA.jpg)
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 07 July, 2011, 01:06:05 PM
Judge Fett would have been a great fun.
Put Captain Solo in the Iso-Cube.. Creep! Im a barrel of laughs, here all week.
Radiator, I didn't, but I know that the link has been sent to some folks already. There are a few shots of stuff that I did that aren't finished yet, and I'm rather miffed that they're up in an unfinished state..
Joe, I feel ill..
Best way to stamp this stuff out is for the film makers to throw us a bone with some official pics! :'( :'(
Or at least some semi-official pics of finished stuff..
I concur! ;)
Quote from: Psidude on 07 July, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
Best way to stamp this stuff out is for the film makers to throw us a bone with some official pics! :'( :'(
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 July, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
Or at least some semi-official pics of finished stuff..
Quote from: Psidude on 07 July, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
I concur! ;)
Don't be silly you two, you should know by now that anything remotely official released now will only do irrepreable damage to the film, it's takings , possibly even causing a hole in the ozone layer,perhaps ,maybe ,even, the end of mankind as we know it.Only when the moon is full, the tides are in and a frog winks to a sparrow ,only then ,when the 'professionals' have a full marketing strategy that nobody believes in , will they talk to anyone and then perhaps show something erm somewhere.Until that time just bask in the genius silence...erm blah blah blah, Joe Soap will fill in the details for you :) ;)
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 07 July, 2011, 06:49:52 PMDon't be silly you two, you should know by now that anything remotely official released now will only do irrepreable damage to the film, it's takings , possibly even causing a hole in the ozone layer,perhaps ,maybe ,even, the end of mankind as we know it.Only when the moon is full, the tides are in and a frog winks to a sparrow ,only then ,when the 'professionals' have a full marketing strategy that nobody believes in , will they talk to anyone and then perhaps show something erm somewhere.Until that time just bask in the genius silence...erm blah blah blah, Joe Soap will fill in the details for you :) ;)
Like DNA should pay attention to this
storm in a quantum tea-cup amounting to half a page of thread postings complaining about pictures on someones's
private facebook account that aren't even viewable by
any of us and which the world outside this webpage doesn't even know exists...I fear the repurcussions for the film, heads will roll, the crew may as well start making their way to the dole office for this fuck-up :[
Jeeezzz, almost 10 minutes flat, very impressive Joe you must live on here, or IN here ,not related to Tron by any chance? ;)
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 07 July, 2011, 07:06:57 PM
Jeeezzz, almost 10 minutes flat, very impressive Joe you must live on here, or IN here ,not related to Tron by any chance? ;)
I see Scojo's tutelage has
served you well young apprentice.
Why is it, no matter where you go, there is always one?
Quote from: Psidude on 06 July, 2011, 08:21:38 PM
Outstanding model,dredd looks like jack palance! :lol:
i thought exactly the same thing! it is rather good innit?
Quote from: Misanthrope on 07 July, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Why is it, no matter where you go, there is always one?
cloning.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 07 July, 2011, 06:49:52 PMDon't be silly you two, you should know by now that anything remotely official released now will only do irrepreable damage to the film, it's takings , possibly even causing a hole in the ozone layer,perhaps ,maybe ,even, the end of mankind as we know it.Only when the moon is full, the tides are in and a frog winks to a sparrow ,only then ,when the 'professionals' have a full marketing strategy that nobody believes in , will they talk to anyone and then perhaps show something erm somewhere.Until that time just bask in the genius silence...erm blah blah blah, Joe Soap will fill in the details for you :) ;)
Like DNA should pay attention to this storm in a quantum tea-cup amounting to half a page of thread postings complaining about pictures on someones's private facebook account that aren't even viewable by any of us and which the world outside this webpage doesn't even know exists...I fear the repurcussions for the film, heads will roll, the crew may as well start making their way to the dole office for this fuck-up :[
:lol:
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2011, 07:23:16 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 07 July, 2011, 07:06:57 PM
Jeeezzz, almost 10 minutes flat, very impressive Joe you must live on here, or IN here ,not related to Tron by any chance? ;)
I see Scojo's tutelage has served you well young apprentice.
Quote from: Misanthrope on 07 July, 2011, 07:52:19 PM
Why is it, no matter where you go, there is always one?
I see the sense of humour bypass was a complete success -didn't know you could double-book the op though :lol:
I think you need to hire a staff writer, your routine sucks!
Bit of Dredd news from Den Of Geek
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/971750/domhnall_gleeson_gives_new_details_of_dredd_movie.html
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 08 July, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
Bit of Dredd news from Den Of Geek
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/971750/domhnall_gleeson_gives_new_details_of_dredd_movie.html
"I'm playing kind of a techie guy who might be a baddie or not, he's an interesting guy, I hope that in some way he's got a piece of the heart of the story."
Oh fuck, he the 2012 version of Judge Dredd (1995)'s Fergee!
It's Die hard but with Die Hard 4's computer nerd :'(
If the Block that Dredd and Anderson are in has been put on Lockdown they'd probably need a Hacker type to get them through Security doors etc. :|
My thoughts exactly,but can they trust him? I am buoyed by the cinematographer though,he has a good eye so here's hoping
More likely someone to hack the Umpty dispenser.
"Hi-Ex!" followed by "Armour Piercing!"
Remember when those security doors come down just blast through the walls on either side if needs be ;)
Personally I'd go AP first to soften the door, then follow with the HE..
Gleeson finished shooting Dredd in South Africa in January, and was full of praise for the team behind it, listing the "amazing cinematographer, brilliant writer, fantastic actors and great director".
::)
..and the props and fabrication department? Nice.. ;)
When the film is out will you post any other pics, that is if you have any other pics from your behind the scenes life on/off set ;)
Goes without saying Michael.
:D
Plus, can you reveal all the info from the on-set phone-taps?
Quote from: Goaty on 08 July, 2011, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 08 July, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
Bit of Dredd news from Den Of Geek
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/971750/domhnall_gleeson_gives_new_details_of_dredd_movie.html
"I'm playing kind of a techie guy who might be a baddie or not, he's an interesting guy, I hope that in some way he's got a piece of the heart of the story."
Oh fuck, he the 2012 version of Judge Dredd (1995)'s Fergee!
If you've read the Garland script, it should be obvious.
- C
but we don't want to read the script, it'd spoil the film?
Scripts for actors,films for perps! ;)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2011, 12:06:04 AM
but we don't want to read the script, it'd spoil the film?
Well, without spoiling,[spoiler] there is a computer tech guy in the film, so that must be who this Gleeson guy is playing - if they haven't changed the script too much. It isn't the same as the 1995 mistake, though - if they haven't changed the script too much.[/spoiler]
- C
[Emp edit: Just to be 100% sure eh?
Quote from: clavell on 09 July, 2011, 02:12:25 PMWell, without spoiling, there is a computer tech guy in the film, so that must be who this Gleeson guy is playing
Well that's what he said: "I'm playing kind of a techie guy".
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 09 July, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
Well that's what he said: "I'm playing kind of a techie guy".
I was confirming that there was such a character in the script.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but I didn't want to risk any spoilers.
- C
I think Gleeson was clear enough about who he was playing and was obviously allowed to say it at the Potter premiere.
Guys, as soon as the thing hits the screen, I'm all yours..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 July, 2011, 03:08:31 PM
Guys, as soon as the thing hits the screen, I'm all yours..
sounds bit gay? ;-)
If Michaelvk didnt have the inside scoop,i would swear this movie is a urban legend! ;)
I'm looking forward to hearing all the stories along with pics :D
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 July, 2011, 03:08:31 PM
Guys, as soon as the thing hits the screen, I'm all yours..
Hope it don't happens to you!
(http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33606.0;attach=6217;image)
That would be bad.. And I really need to work on how I phrase stuff..
Believe it or not I took precious few pics, other than of stuff I did for my own reference.
QuoteAnd I really need to work on how I phrase stuff..
How about: " Hey guys, here are those pictures I told you all about." :D
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 July, 2011, 10:51:48 PM
That would be bad.. And I really need to work on how I phrase stuff..
Believe it or not I took precious few pics, other than of stuff I did for my own reference.
Hey Michael: can't believe no-one has actually asked you this (and if they have and I'm too thick to find it, my humble apologies) but what was your take on what they were doing with the movie? I know you can't go into anything resembling details and obviously you're somewhat out of the loop now but from what you saw while you were there, do you feel confident the movie's going to be good?
(I really thought this question was going to read back a lot better than it does. Haha!)
Quote from: Misanthrope on 11 July, 2011, 11:00:03 PM
How about: " Hey guys, here are those pictures I told you all about." :D
Yeeeaahhhhhh.. No. :)
Quote from: blackmocco on 12 July, 2011, 02:40:55 AM
Hey Michael: can't believe no-one has actually asked you this (and if they have and I'm too thick to find it, my humble apologies) but what was your take on what they were doing with the movie? I know you can't go into anything resembling details and obviously you're somewhat out of the loop now but from what you saw while you were there, do you feel confident the movie's going to be good?
(I really thought this question was going to read back a lot better than it does. Haha!)
Well.. Personally I think we put out a lot of really, really cool stuff.. I know what I did and what I saw will look cool in my opinion.. I was hardly ever on set, but seeing the bigger picture was awesome.
I've said this before.. Because of the niche nature of Dredd, I don't think it'll do stellar at the box office, but it'll certainly do well in dvd and bluray sales.
Nice to see warner bros have released a Dark knight rises teaser poster,a year before release,think Dredd will get a teaser poster a week before release? ;)
Quote from: Psidude on 12 July, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Nice to see warner bros have released a Dark knight rises teaser poster,a year before release,think Dredd will get a teaser poster a week before release? ;)
Hey Mr Apples, have you met my friend, Mr Oranges?
It's about time someone did a gritty reimagining of The Munch Bunch.
or indeed the sour grapes bunch!
Quote from: Psidude on 12 July, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Nice to see warner bros have released a Dark knight rises teaser poster,a year before release,think Dredd will get a teaser poster a week before release? ;)
There'll be a teaser for
TDKR before
Harry Potter too but it's just as much to boost the box-office of Harry Potter as well as advertising the Bat-film but Warners Bros can/need to do that with two film budgets of over $250 million each.
San Diego Con's looming, surely there'll be some snipet of 'DREDD' there????
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 July, 2011, 08:05:01 PMSan Diego Con's looming, surely there'll be some snipet of 'DREDD' there????
They'll be re-using some leftover posters from '95.
:lol: Mr. Soap you've razor sharpe wit. I would'nt be surprised if they did reuse all Stallones movie prop's (including his cod piece) with the films budget being so tight.
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 July, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
:lol: Mr. Soap you've razor sharpe wit. I would'nt be surprised if they did reuse all Stallones movie prop's (including his cod piece) with the films budget being so tight.
OI!!!
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 July, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: Psidude on 12 July, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Nice to see warner bros have released a Dark knight rises teaser poster,a year before release,think Dredd will get a teaser poster a week before release? ;)
Hey Mr Apples, have you met my friend, Mr Oranges?
Indeed - I wouldn't be surprised if the DKR ad spend is higher than the Dredd budget.
Quote from: Emperor on 13 July, 2011, 04:13:50 AM
Indeed - I wouldn't be surprised if the DKR ad spend is higher than the Dredd budget.
I'd say that's a given.
I wouldn't be surprised if Stallone's cod piece gets reused as a respirator in this one.
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 July, 2011, 08:05:01 PM
San Diego Con's looming, surely there'll be some snipet of 'DREDD' there????
Had a look at their site ,nothing on special guests related to the Dredd , DNA and I M Global not listed as exhibitors either but Lionsgate is ,so possibly maybe not. :-*
Monsieur Sherman I had a l :ok at the Con listings too and like you mentioned there is nothing ovious pertaining to DREDD. Shame if there isn't a small offering the suspense is killing me.
Thats weird.. You'de think by now there's be at least a teaser of some sort..
I've heard that they are waiting to show the teaser trailer during the Superbowl ;)
I heard that they were releasing the teaser trailer on 3rd Jan 2012.
V
in a stroke of marketing genius,the teaser will be on after the Dredd film,like thor ;)
Quote from: Psidude on 13 July, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
in a stroke of marketing genius,the teaser will be on after the Dredd film,like thor ;)
????????
Quote from: minus on 13 July, 2011, 11:05:45 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Stallone's cod piece gets reused as a respirator in this one.
That would, however, explain Karl's demeanor..
Quote from: Psidude on 12 July, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Nice to see warner bros have released a Dark knight rises teaser poster,a year before release,think Dredd will get a teaser poster a week before release? ;)
Wouldn't be suprised if TDKR's catering budget is more than the budget of Dredd-and that's not a criticism of Dredd. Many a great film has been made on an economical budget and conversely many a shit film has had an over-inflated budget.
The might of a huge studio like Warner Bros can and will promote the frakk out of massive franchise movies like the Batman ones. Something a relatively low budget independent movie like Dredd never can. That's not to say the end product won't be of equal or greater quality.
QuoteMany a great film has been made on an economical budget and conversely many a shit film has had an over-inflated budget.
Mad Max and Transformers, respectively.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 13 July, 2011, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 July, 2011, 08:05:01 PM
San Diego Con's looming, surely there'll be some snipet of 'DREDD' there????
Had a look at their site ,nothing on special guests related to the Dredd , DNA and I M Global not listed as exhibitors either but Lionsgate is ,so possibly maybe not. :-*
Quote from: dracula1 on 13 July, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
Monsieur Sherman I had a l :ok at the Con listings too and like you mentioned there is nothing ovious pertaining to DREDD. Shame if there isn't a small offering the suspense is killing me.
2000AD, however, are there...
Dredd is being distributed in the U.S. by Lionsgate, who do indeed have a prescence at ComicCon, so you might see stills or something lightweight just to promote it's upcoming release- but I'll bet the teaser trailer will be attached to Conan the Barbarian on it's cinematic release on August 19th, as that's also a Lionsgate release, and basically cater to the same audience demographic... and the good thing about that is if there's a trailer for a U.S. release, chances are we'll get to see it online! Of course, if Conan... comes around and there's no trailer, I'm sticking my head in the oven...
Good call :D
Not about the oven though :o
Don't kniow if anyone's linked to this yet:
Domhnall Gleeson gives new details of Dredd movie (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/971750/domhnall_gleeson_gives_new_details_of_dredd_movie.html)
Gleeson summed things up by saying, "If it's as good as it can be, then I think it will be spectacular."
Gleeson is playing Ma-Ma's tech geek.
I agree with Mr Smoochies about expecting a trailer with Conan. If there's no teaser/trailer by then I'll be very surprised.
CRAVENOIR'S BACK!!! Where've you been dude, we missed ya, you and all your great lil' nuggets o' news... boy, do I miss that old Judge Dredd Movie News blog site, the 'net hasn't been the same since, well, you know ;)...
I didn't realise I'd gone! :o
Past. Future. Present. It's all the same to me. :)
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 July, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
:lol: Mr. Soap you've razor sharpe wit. I would'nt be surprised if they did reuse all Stallones movie prop's (including his cod piece) with the films budget being so tight.
The last thing anyone wants is a tight codpiece.
or a loose one.
Any Idea if Urban will be sporting one? . . . the low budget version is likely to be a cricket style knackers protector sprayed in a mute commando green.
Teaser maybe but full trailer tend to come out 2-3 months before a film,tops.
My guess is December,might get a few piccys though and a website with wallpapers etc first.
Here's an image from the new "Total Recall". Could this be the look/vibe we should expect from "Dredd"?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/shazam-kree/totalrecall.jpg)
Can't see the Buddhist stone heads working to well at the Halls of Justice...and weren't those guys in Inception?
With the Dredd movie being over a year away, it strikes me that the likes of Asylum Studios have plenty of time to throw a cheap, cgi-heavy knock-off together. Wonder if they will.
<cracks knuckles, fires up laptop, starts work upon draft one of 'Police Cop Scary'>
SBT
Maybe even time for Rebellion to put together a nice little tie-in game?
or Top-Trumps.
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 22 July, 2011, 09:35:24 AM
With the Dredd movie being over a year away, it strikes me that the likes of Asylum Studios have plenty of time to throw a cheap, cgi-heavy knock-off together. Wonder if they will.
<cracks knuckles, fires up laptop, starts work upon draft one of 'Police Cop Scary'>
SBT
Curses! throws away script for Maniac Mega-Marshall. :(
If they were really clever, rather than just doing a rip-off Dredd, they'd plunder 2000AD's back catalogue for inspiration, and i could dust off my Charles Hawtrey/Barbara Windsor-inspired light sex comedy masterpiece 'Ooh, Hello Jones'- about a saucy young girl and her naughty adventures while escaping a space hoop.
SBT
Quote from: TordelBack on 22 July, 2011, 09:45:40 AM
Maybe even time for Rebellion to put together a nice little tie-in game?
Or create a new comic of Judge Dredd based on the film?
oh wait a minute...
Quote from: weehawk on 15 July, 2011, 11:13:07 PM
Here's an image from the new "Total Recall". Could this be the look/vibe we should expect from "Dredd"?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/shazam-kree/totalrecall.jpg)
(http://www.impawards.com/1982/posters/silent_rage.jpg)
Don't get it.
Just spotted a link saying Prime Focus will be at Siggraph this year.
With Dredd being pretty much their biggest ever VFX movie production for the last year, there maybe a few peaks of Dredd shown on the stand....?
http://www.siggraph.org/s2011/
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but is it possible that the movie being put back till September 2012 could be because it's being given more time for post production, perhaps more money put into the pot?
Could be a good sign even if we do have to wait longer. :)
Ed
Quote from: esoteric ed on 28 July, 2011, 10:34:27 PM
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but is it possible that the movie being put back till September 2012 could be because it's being given more time for post production, perhaps more money put into the pot?
These things are always possible but there's no indicators to suspect that. It was always gonna be 2012, either Spring or Autumn.
I was wondering if maybe it's to do with doing some reshoots over the summer. When the thing's put together you always see ways to clarify things or enhance them by adding a few scenes here and there.
No real reason to think that though. Just idle speculation on my part...
QuoteThese things are always possible but there's no indicators to suspect that. It was always gonna be 2012, either Spring or Autumn.
Cheers Chiefy, shame as I was hoping for a nice birthday present this December but I can wait, what's another year eh ;)
QuoteI was wondering if maybe it's to do with doing some reshoots over the summer. When the thing's put together you always see ways to clarify things or enhance them by adding a few scenes here and there.
No real reason to think that though. Just idle speculation on my part...
Fair call and possible, I was thinking more about additional time on post digital effects etc, but [spoiler]if from what I understand the bulk of the movie is set in one block then the scale of Mega City 1 won't dominate the movie[/spoiler]
Either way my bum will be firmly on seat next year :)
Ed
Quote from: esoteric ed on 28 July, 2011, 11:34:35 PM
QuoteThese things are always possible but there's no indicators to suspect that. It was always gonna be 2012, either Spring or Autumn.
Cheers Chiefy, shame as I was hoping for a nice birthday present this December but I can wait, what's another year eh ;)
If 'twas intended to be out this December -which I don't believe it ever was- 'twould have been cause for worry.
QuoteIf 'twas intended to be out this December -which I don't believe it ever was- 'twould have been cause for worry.
A similar kind of shooting/post production/release schedule for example a Bond movie (QoS was Jan shoot/Nov release if I'm not mistaken), but yes a possible cause for worry, all good things come to those who wait. :D
Ed
For anyone who hasn't seen Judge Anderson's photo.
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dredd-movie-image-magazine-scan-olivia-thirlby-01-600x506-510x430.jpg)
Quote from: HatefulCactus on 17 August, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
For anyone who hasn't seen Judge Anderson's photo.
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dredd-movie-image-magazine-scan-olivia-thirlby-01-600x506-510x430.jpg)
Man, I never get that tired of that photo, it's just simply an awesome still - Olivia Thirlby IS Anderson, lovely...
Great pic of anderson wish we could see her badge will it say psi? :)
Quotewish we could see her badge will it say psi?
Going by the script, [spoiler]there is no such thing as Psi-Division - at least during the period in which the film is set. Anderson is referred to as a 'mutant' - she grew up in a nuclear wasteland which gave her her powers. So it's safe to assume her badge will read 'Anderson', 'Cadet' or she won't have a badge at all. Half a badge a la the comics would be a neat touch, though.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 18 August, 2011, 04:13:10 AM
Quote from: HatefulCactus on 17 August, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
For anyone who hasn't seen Judge Anderson's photo.
(http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dredd-movie-image-magazine-scan-olivia-thirlby-01-600x506-510x430.jpg)
Man, I never get that tired of that photo, it's just simply an awesome still - Olivia Thirlby IS Anderson, lovely...
I've seen the other angle up close :D
I know this artist from Facebook (we almost did a strip together a couple of years ago) who I've just found out is working on the new Dredd movie. Here's what he had to say about it:
"I'm doing matte painting on it, so lots of buildings and environments. Cant give a sneak peak i'm afraid, but am happy to talk about it. Having looked at the sequences, the best way to view it is like a pilot episode, the story is quite simple but its pretty faithful to the comic I would say. You never see Dredds face and his voice seems suitable, captures the feel of the comics pretty well i think. Its a bit like District 9 and Children of Men as it feels futuristic and contemporary. With all the gore etc it reminds me quite a bit of Robocop too!
So hopefully it will do well and get some sequels! :)"
The artist in question has agreed to the concept of joining us in the Yap Shop on Wednesday to talk cryptically about this project. He can't say too much, of course, but then he's never been probed by our Roger, has he?
at last...the true purpose of the YapShop is revealed.
I am trying to get Karl Urban. I've tried to explain to him, at great length and in exquisite detail, how utterly transported we would be if he could Yap with us one Wednesday night for just ten minutes. The sheer joy, I told him, he could cause from just this briefest of yappages would infect the net - spreading from Yap Shop through 2000ADonline and then out onto the nerdy-gurdy from whence it would be magnified and perhaps even form the basis of peace in the Middle East.
But you know what it's like. It's hard to get your point across when you're shouting through a letterbox.
I can hear Roger swelling-up all ready.
District 9 ,Children of Men and Robocop, two good films and one erhem (well lets leave it at that -far too many robocop lovers on here for me to swat away :ssh:).That it is faithful to the comic is good, just don't want too many futuristic elements of Dredd's world ,which let's face it, often makes it so special, supressed too much to make it a different entity altogether, but we shall see.....
I simply cannot let that one slide- RoboCop is without a doubt one of the best sci-fi/action efforts of the last... well, ever ! What could've been a boilerplate hokey old flick was turned into a masterpiece by Paul Verhoeven (before he went nuts and turned into a raving anti-semite); satirical yet exciting, brutal yet genuinely touching, funny yet thoughtful, it had it all... except for the fact it had dire sequels, 'nuff said!
If Dredd is anywhere near as good, it's gonna be big, not to mention awesome, I'll refer you again to that pic of Olivia Thirlby as Anderson, nothing that cool could disappoint (fingers crossed)...
District 9 I expected due to locale and crippling poverty and overpopulation. Children of Men however, did not come to mind. I love that film, so if the feel has some of that, well that's alright with me! Love Robocop!
All Dredd fans should hate Robocop on principal, let alone after watching it :P, as it so blatently ripped off Dredd -I think I remember reading somewhere it's producers admitted ripping off Dredd, so they will alway be on the naughty step with me I'm afraid.
PS Beaky 'boilerplate'???
I didn't like the fact that Robocop ripped off Dredd, but I still thought it was a great Dreddish film. Is that allowed?
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 23 August, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
I didn't like the fact that Robocop ripped off Dredd, but I still thought it was a great Dreddish film. Is that allowed?
It's more than allowed Jaysus but
Death Race 2000 (1975) -directed by the talented Paul Bartel and very well made for a B-movie- came before 'em all. It's as sharp and satirical as Dredd or RoboCop and supplied the inspiration for Dredd's
look in the 70's. I'd say DR2 was a bigger influence on the tone and irreverence of early 2000AD than anything else, the similarities are quite apparent. Not to mention Pat Mills & Kev O'Neill did a sequel comic for Roger Corman in tribute.
(http://www.cinemastrikesback.com/news/new%20dailies/DeathRace2000/deathrace3-1024.jpg)
(http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/600w/51/290511/6461231_1.jpg)
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 August, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
All Dredd fans should hate Robocop on principal, let alone after watching it :P, as it so blatently ripped off Dredd -I think I remember reading somewhere it's producers admitted ripping off Dredd, so they will alway be on the naughty step with me I'm afraid.
Stallone ripped-off Dredd too, he just wasn't very good at it. RoboCop is too sharp/good a film to dismiss I'm afraid.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 23 August, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
All Dredd fans should hate Robocop on principal, let alone after watching it :P, as it so blatently ripped off Dredd -I think I remember reading somewhere it's producers admitted ripping off Dredd, so they will alway be on the naughty step with me I'm afraid.
PS Beaky 'boilerplate'???
As a kid I was slightly upset that they ripped off Dredd when I first saw a clip of Robocop, but after watching the film I realised it was such a good rip off that I had to love it.
If this Dredd film is garbage (which I doubt at this point) at least I can console myself in the fact that we still have Robocop.
It looks as though Paul Verhovans film is a big influence on this new Judge Dredd film and that makes me think they're headed down the right path.
Quote
I'd say DR2 was a bigger influence on the tone and irreverence of early 2000AD than anything else, the similarities are quite apparent
Yeah, that and Magnum Force.
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 August, 2011, 08:39:30 PMYeah, that and Magnum Force.
Unfortunately
Magnum Force is a shit film with a great idea, too much John Milius in it so what chance did it have.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 August, 2011, 08:39:30 PMYeah, that and Magnum Force.
Unfortunately Magnum Force is a shit film with a great idea, too much John Milius in it so what chance did it have.
Possibly right, but still without it would Judge Dredd be the same?
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 August, 2011, 09:05:59 PMPossibly right, but still without it would Judge Dredd be the same?
It probably would since Dredd's development was quite organic in the early years and certainly the influence of a film like
Magnum Force only came through in stories like "The Devil You Know" in the early 90's.
QuoteIt's as sharp and satirical as Dredd or RoboCop and supplied the inspiration for Dredd's look in the 70's
Who's the guy on the left anyway?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6ipCp2DAKk8/ThSe70IphbI/AAAAAAAABwg/4L9yZpd2K58/s1600/DeathRace002.jpg)
You mean the dude without a proper helmet?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
You mean the dude without a proper helmet?
He
is a helmet. A tumescent, weeping, purple helmet. When I watch some of his movies, my eyes feel dirty. Having said that, Rambo is awesome.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 August, 2011, 09:05:59 PMPossibly right, but still without it would Judge Dredd be the same?
It probably would since Dredd's development was quite organic in the early years and certainly the influence of a film like Magnum Force only came through in stories like "The Devil You Know" in the early 90's.
Have to disagree with you there, since Magnum Force is basically Dirty Harry vs Judge Dredd - Dirty Harry being a direct influence on Dredd this to my logic makes it an obvious influence.
But it comes down to opinion, I'm happy to leave it there so lets agree to disagree.
Andersons Shame -great pic -still laughing :lol:
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 August, 2011, 09:48:16 PMHave to disagree with you there, since Magnum Force is basically Dirty Harry vs Judge Dredd - Dirty Harry being a direct influence on Dredd this to my logic makes it an obvious influence.
But it comes down to opinion, I'm happy to leave it there so lets agree to disagree.
Since I was the one who raised the
hypothetical influence of
Magnum Force on Dredd on this very forum before, and it's never been that 'official' when it comes to particulars, any opinion remains purely hypothetical and -if you read my last post- I never said
it didn't have an influence on Dredd but
direct influence wasn't at least 'apparent' story-wise until the 'the Devil You Know'.
Since Magnum Force is about
Death-Squads in LA, it's not totally congruent with early Dredd, the subtext is there but Dirty Harry is the major influence persona-wise with Dredd, the
system of Judges developed as the strip went on and that's where the parallels with Magnum Force starts.
Quote from an earlier post of mine:
QuoteThe Dirty Harry/Dredd comparison still applies and is not confused since it's the persona people are comparing not exactly the character motivations/story or world and Dredd has indeed displayed Harry's more extreme lone actions many times in his objections to Justice Dept. policies etc, and the same humour/public relations too. Yes, there are differences but that's because Dredd represents/operates in a different system he mostly believes in, Harry doesn't because he's not allowed to dispense the kind of Justice he feels is needed for certian perps- he basically wants to be Dredd. It's the 'individualism' in the bloodline amongst the Judges that sets Dredd apart and makes him valuable as has been noted many times. Dredd ain't a vigilante cos he doesn't need to be. He can work within the law.
The closest thing to Harry becoming Dredd -in character and in film- is in the sequel Magnum Force, not a great film (bad script) but a great idea for a Dirty Harry sequel and a logical extension of the first:
[spoiler]A group of motorcycle patrol cops equally disillusioned with the weakness of their laws see Harry as an icon and his methods something to aspire to, so they form their own death squad executing prominent gang leaders/perps. It further transpires that they intend this method almost to become part of the system, a fixture, something akin to the Judges and there may be reason to believe they have the power and connections to make it happen. When Harry realises his methods may become systemic, because being Harry the only judgement he can trust is his own, he revolts; his enemies are worse than he is because they're cops who've betrayed themselves by conspiring.[/spoiler]
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=32309.0
Yep. Never read that post, so you agree with me then.
Not just being Contrary for the sake of it then ::)
Reading that summary, I realise two things: (1). I've never seen Magnum Force (I was sure I had); and (2). that's pretty much what the last Judge Edgar story was about - [spoiler]the one where Ramos had been part of a secret group of hardline judges who went around assassinating perps[/spoiler].
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 23 August, 2011, 10:33:44 PM
Yep. Never read that post, so you agree with me then.
Not just being Contrary for the sake of it then ::)
No, but with Dredd's origins nothing is simple and all debate on this forum is just banter and supposition, ask John Wagner if you want a direct answer to what inspired him. He may tell you something completely different, he may never have even seen
Magnum Force for all I know and since many other writers with Pat Mills as editor had some involvement with the early scripts, it's anyone's guess.
Hindsight is not truth. I just thought it was a fun idea that some of the more hardened ideas that developed in Dredd had an
retro-echo in
Magnum Force and since Dirty Harry at least was an influence that it's possible it gew as an influence, but Dredd wasn't that developed from the beginning and in the end I don't know if the idea came directly from that film.
Quote from: TordelBack on 23 August, 2011, 10:43:39 PM
Reading that summary, I realise two things: (1). I've never seen Magnum Force (I was sure I had); and (2). that's pretty much what the last Judge Edgar story was about - [spoiler]the one where Ramos had been part of a secret group of hardline judges who went around assassinating perps[/spoiler].
It's definitely worth seeing, some of Harry's macho stylings which are pure Milius can be hard to take and are incongruent with the first film but there's a scene in an underground car park that's very similar to this:
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/Prog_751_Page_03.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/Prog_751_Page_04.jpg)
John Milius rocks, three words to prove it- Conan the Barbarian, 'nuff said! On the subject of Magnum Force, my problem with the film was it tried to make Harry a more 'likable' character and softened him around the edges, a total about-turn on the original movie's violent and uncompromising vigilante-with-a-badge character. I always disliked the idea of Dirty Harry sequels because I always loved the ambiguity of the final scene [spoiler]when Harry throws his badge away, is he giving up the force completely or does he just know he's gonna be demoted for plugging Scorpio[/spoiler], I liked the fact it wasn't stated and left it up to the audience, but the sequel answers that ambiguity, rendering the original ending meaningless... as long as the producers of Dredd can avoid trying to make JD more 'likable', they'll be going a long way to a truly great Dredd movie!
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 24 August, 2011, 04:19:05 AM
John Milius rocks, three words to prove it- Conan the Barbarian, 'nuff said! On the subject of Magnum Force, my problem with the film was it tried to make Harry a more 'likable' character and softened him around the edges,
It didn't really soften him, the film just introduced some new characters who were far worse than he was and willing to be more ruthless and non-compromising so that in
contrast Harry after he questioned the 'morality' of what was being done, looked softer.
As for Conan, well it's one of the most unintentionally insanely hilarious crapfests ever made apart from the music which is excellent.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 August, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
As for Conan, well it's one of the most unintentionally insanely hilarious crapfests ever made apart from the music which is excellent.
As Dredd might say under examination, "Enjoy it? Of course I enjoy it!".
Conan is one of those rare films that I have to watch right through to the end every time I catch sight of it on the telly ... I think it's actually James Earl Jones' wig that compels me. I also own the DVD, and often put on the
magnificent commentary just to cheer myself up. Some highlights here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86-vveE9DI4&feature=player_embedded
One of the few films where the commentary is a must.
It's the training sequences I find hilarious and the cage-rape and Arnie's insane face while sword waving alone, James Earl Jones' shape-shifting into a snake and then basically slithering off in the middle of a fight, the voice-over, the constant aimless running around ...it goes on...and...on...
but then again there is the music.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 August, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
one of the most unintentionally insanely hilarious crapfests ever made ...
A bit like the original Judge Dredd film
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 24 August, 2011, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 August, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
one of the most unintentionally insanely hilarious crapfests ever made ...
A bit like the original Judge Dredd film
Did somebody make a Judge Dredd film before?
Yeah, it was called RoboCop, and it was bloody good too!!!
New feature of Karl Urban interview, as it was featured in latest Total Film;
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/karl-urban-assures-judge-dredd-won-t-get-any-literal-face-time-14679 (http://www.latinoreview.com/news/karl-urban-assures-judge-dredd-won-t-get-any-literal-face-time-14679)
"If anyone if familiar with Dredd, over the years there are many times when he removes his helmet but you never fully see his face. This was a construct by the creators because he represents a faceless system of justice and law.
I say this hypothetically. If I went to a movie called Judge Dredd and the lead actor at one point took of his helmet so we could see his full face I would just puke in my popcorn because that's not Dredd. He is mysterious and enigmatic. We're doing it right, it's gonna be harder, grittier and above all faithful to the comic. It's gonna kick ass."
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2011, 01:09:59 PM
I would just puke in my popcorn because that's not Dredd
Steady now! :lol:
Surely you would puke into the popcorn of the chap who is sitting next to you?
Quote from: charleswalter1860 on 08 September, 2011, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2011, 01:09:59 PM
I would just puke in my popcorn because that's not Dredd
Steady now! :lol:
Surely you would puke into the popcorn of the chap who is sitting next to you?
Very Good :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is the sort of disgraceful behavior that causes trouble in the pictures nowadays ;)
The 'puke in my popcorn' quote is actually from last months Empire magazine feature. Total Film nicked it.
Still, Karl Urban rocks. I have a couple of concerns about the new movie, but the casting isn't one. He'll be a great Dredd.
Quote from: radiator on 09 September, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
The 'puke in my popcorn' quote is actually from last months Empire magazine feature. Total Film nicked it
I remember it as a qoute on the web from a few months even before that.
Yeah it was on a pinch of interview shortly after his official announcement of playing the role.