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Started by Grant Goggans, 05 April, 2007, 08:12:28 AM

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I, Cosh

Over in the Michael Moorcock thread, it's pointed out that some of Grant Morrison's Invisibles is a bit like Moorcock. Over in Thrillpowered Thursday this week, I realize that some of Grant Morrison's Invisibles is a bit like Finn.

Tee hee! Good stuff as usual, but I think you're stretching it a bit thin there*: it was hardly an original idea on either part and The Invisibles had already been going for a couple of years by this point. I've always thought Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus Trilogy was the most obvious source for vast swathes of the Invisibles. The only Moorcock connection I can see is the Jerry Cornelius analogue, which Morrison freely admits to being a shameless rip off.

I always got the impression that Finn was intended to be a latter day counterpart or avatar of Slaine and that there would have been some sort of Titanic Earth Warrior Team-Up somewhere down the line. God that would have been shit.

*NB I've never read the story in question, or the one before it.
We never really die.

Grant Goggans

"it was hardly an original idea on either part and The Invisibles had already been going for a couple of years by this point"

Well, in my defense, I am right on the dates - the first series of Finn began in Feb. 1992, and the first issue of The Invisibles is cover-dated Sep. 1994, so there's plenty of chance for Morrison to have cribbed the conflict between the covens/cells and the rich old men in houses, should he have done so.

Considering Paul's history as a very well-read character in Third World War, I'm having trouble imagining that he was Slaine all along, though Mills clearly was working from the same lines with each.

Grant Goggans

Floyd, I'm afraid that what little I know of Marvel's 2099 imprint is what Wikipedia has to say about it.  Mills and Skinner wrote the majority of the 34 issues, and Tom Morgan was the artist, and it ran from 1993-95.  Lots more at Wikpedia...

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_2099" target="_blank">Marvel 2099


TordelBack

I always got the impression that Finn was intended to be a latter day counterpart or avatar of Slaine

Me too, and thank God Mills didn't go that way.  Then Moorcock really would have had something to complain about...

Floyd-the-k

thanks for thatk, Hipster. Has anyone here read it?  I notice it features a few ideas pinched from Crisis and 2000Ad, ie 'Barrio Man' and organlegging.

Grant Goggans

This week in Thrillpowered Thursday, my daughter joins us as we reread the stories which began in prog 1000.  Remember Outlaw and Black Light?  I do!  Plus, the Hipster Son reads the Complete Nemesis vol 2 and learns a thing or two about marriage.

Link: http://hipsterdad.livejournal.com/tag/2000+ad" target="_blank">Bomb in yer head!


The Monarch

that made me chuckle the whole  "You only just now figured out that Torquemada's a complete freak?" bit

Floyd-the-k

Am I the only person alive who liked Crusade? It is fragile and the head of Judge Whatsit is a complete maguffin, but I enjoyed it. I also liked the talking mine car and the ridiculously hard Sov judge.  It must be partly to do with it being the first Dredd story I bought (I'd seen a page of a Judge Death story before that)

vzzbux

I am with you on that on floyd. We need more Vatican  judges.





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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.

Grant Goggans

I wanted to let fans know that this week in Thrillpowered Thursday, it's the moment we just shake our heads and admit, sadly, "Yeah, that happened..." Tharg vanishes and some po-faced government investigators start running our comic.

Link: http://hipsterdad.livejournal.com/tag/2000+ad" target="_blank">Lights Up!


Grant Goggans

I haven't mentioned my blog in a few weeks, so I wanted to remind everybody that I'm still trucking along, and this week we wave goodbye at long last to Mark Millar, and learn that Slaine's Treasures of Britain was better than we remembered it!

Link: http://hipsterdad.livejournal.com/tag/2000+ad" target="_blank">Gunshark Vacation


TordelBack

HD's blog has now moved into very interesting territory for me.  After a brief return to the fold for the Prog 1000 festivities, Prog 1019 is where I bowed out for a long, long time - I didn't start reading regularly again until 1141, I think, although I may have picked up the odd issue in a train station.  

I'm surprised to find that I apparently gave up in the middle of Darkside, a story I enjoyed, but there's literally nothing else in the line-up that I could claim to be even half-interested in.  Treasures of Britain was an unnecessary continuation of a Slaine saga that had already AFAIWC, story and art on Rogue did nothing but annoy me, Mazeworld was ponderous (if pretty), and it'd be many years before I grew to like Sinister Dexter.  And yes, Mambo's Hypernet plot was horribly dated, even then.


The Monarch

Just saying that I am a regular reader of your blog and enjoy it

Grant Goggans

Well, thank you!

This week, Thrillpowered Thursday dares to ask the burning question... who's cuter, Durham Red or Jo Guest?  Well, actually it doesn't ask that at all, it just has pictures of girls.

Link: http://hipsterdad.livejournal.com/tag/2000+ad" target="_blank">Invading the Oxford Union Society

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Grant Goggans

I haven't hyped the blog lately, but thought lapsed readers might want to know that for the next three weeks, we'll be talking about the really weird period at the end of 1997, when suddenly all the new strips were commissioned with press releases in mind, and the comic was labelled NOT FOR SALE TO CHILDREN...

Link: http://hipsterdad.livejournal.com/tag/2000+ad" target="_blank">Girls Less Ordinary