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Title: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Darren Stephens on 17 February, 2018, 08:21:19 PM
No review yet...? Beautiful ABCs cover from the Langley droid. Stripnwise, only read Dredd so far, but a very enjoyable opening episode. Dave Taylor's art is to die for! On a side not, my sub copy turned up quite badly battered n bruised. Anyone else have an issue with their....issue?
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 February, 2018, 08:49:00 PM
Mine didn't land today - hence no review. Always glad to hear its in the wilderness though.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 17 February, 2018, 09:58:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lIFTyhj.jpg)

Dredd is Quatermass-tastic!

Something has returned.
Name checks for three of the actors to play the Professor leading the British rocket group.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 17 February, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: Darren Stephens on 17 February, 2018, 08:21:19 PMAnyone else have an issue with their....issue?

I got two copies, if that counts?  :)

ABC Warriors is incredibly pretty, but it was disheartening to see yet another lineup-of-evil-counterparts spread. "Ah, yes, there's Sinister Quasi-Russian Robot #4 who you'll remember from a couple of books ago! Perhaps they'll finally fight their ABC equivalent if there are enough episodes left before this book concludes..."

I like a lot of Pat's work (and Defoe is one of my favourite recent-ish strips) but between Slaine, the Warriors, Savage and newer Defoe everything is blurring into book after book after book of not a lot happening very prettily. Good for filling progs, but not gripping for a reader.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Richard on 17 February, 2018, 11:23:42 PM
My issue was very badly damaged and I've had to bin it. I'd assumed it was the postman's fault.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Richard on 17 February, 2018, 11:25:00 PM
My Megazine, that is. Not got the prog yet.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Fungus on 18 February, 2018, 02:37:17 AM
Quote from: The Amstor Computer on 17 February, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
I like a lot of Pat's work (and Defoe is one of my favourite recent-ish strips) but between Slaine, the Warriors, Savage and newer Defoe everything is blurring into book after book after book of not a lot happening very prettily. Good for filling progs, but not gripping for a reader.

Amen.
Hopefully Dredd this week will deliver - which it seems is the case... Read the preceding 3 progs today and it's a struggle to care.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 18 February, 2018, 10:02:44 AM
I got two, too
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Darren Stephens on 18 February, 2018, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Richard on 17 February, 2018, 11:25:00 PM
My Megazine, that is. Not got the prog yet.

Yeh, mine was totalled. Still enjoyed reading it, even though I had to hold the pages together. A lesser comic, I wouldn't have bothered!  :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Richard on 20 February, 2018, 12:16:05 AM
Got the prog today (undamaged). A good one.

Dredd starts off promisingly. (Have we seen Lamia before? I can't remember.)

The best episode of Bad Company since the '80s. [spoiler]Quantum Russian Roulette, and a moving ending.[/spoiler] Good stuff, and I'm more interested in it now.

Savage and ABC Warriors are building to their climaxes, and Brass Sun takes a new turn.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 20 February, 2018, 01:18:40 AM
Quote from: Richard on 20 February, 2018, 12:16:05 AM
Dredd starts off promisingly. (Have we seen Lamia before? I can't remember.)

In "High Spirits", by Edginton and Taylor back in 2009 (!)

Don't think there's been another appearance sInce.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 February, 2018, 09:30:30 AM
Brass Sun provided a bit of a surprise, Bad Company barrels along, and the new Dredd starts very well. Savage and ABC Warriors showcase the various ends of the Mills spectrum, with the latter making me think he enjoys trolling the readers. Still, at least with the 407th Mills line-up, we didn't have full-page portraits of each of the ABC Warriors' opposite numbers. But, good grief, for a strip that used to be jam-packed with madness and new ideas, it hasn't half become utterly boring and predictable.

How many times now have we had this set-up? And you just know that the Warriors will emerge victorious (possibly after getting horribly smashed up, but then rebuilding themselves), ready for the next set of books where they are laboriously reintroduced, chat a bit about the old days, talk about Mars a bit, and then fight another bunch of mostly throwaway foes that are introduced one at a time.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: James Stacey on 20 February, 2018, 10:29:58 AM
Does Uncle Pat really think there will be a single reader who is thrilled and excited by the revealed line up of anti ABC Warriors. Or does he do it just for a collective face-palm? At least Savage is fun (stupid but fun) 
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 February, 2018, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 20 February, 2018, 10:29:58 AM
Does Uncle Pat really think there will be a single reader who is thrilled and excited by the revealed line up of anti ABC Warriors.

Well I loved it... okay that's a lie its a pretty tired Mills by the numbers (or should that be ABCs) affair, however much Clint Langley tries to throw his all into elevating it above that. I mean Jez Mongel getting his legs ripped off (not even worth spoiling) is so meanless. Shame as I enjoyed this story to date and shame as the rest of the Prog was STONKIN'

Starting with a glorious, eye bleedingly good art on Dredd with a pretty fantastic story to boot.

Savage does kinda do that CLIFFHANGER solved by shooting well woith guns and stuff which is pretty tired but the rest was good, though its time to move on from Quartz he's in real danger of getting so hammer point home dull and loose his pizzazz.

Bad Company is getting better and better as Mac provides more forehead based clues as to what might be happening here. We're slowly getting to the answers and its becoming a joy to inch our way there.

Star of the show is a quite sublime Brass Sun. I loved the breath of fresh air last week but this weeks exposition done by craftmen was something else and the way its built so much up about our new status quo and Wren's new frame of mind is great BUT the build up to that final page is what makes this so 2000ad. Brilliant.

Seriously if this line-up is losing folks the next jump on Prog has its work cut out getting 'um back!
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Tjm86 on 21 February, 2018, 07:25:10 AM
Ironically for me, Langley's artwork is the final nail in the coffin.  I just find it too dense and laborious to work with as narrative art.  For cover art it's spot on.  Compare it with Teague's work on Savage.  Same writer but two different artists.  Pretty much the same ideas, in fact you could argue that Savage is ABC Warriors / Ro-busters pre-history (albeit shoehorned).  Granted ABC seems to have crawled up its own backside at the moment, I don't know I just don't bother any more.  I tend to skim it and move on.   :|
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Big_Dave on 21 February, 2018, 07:42:29 AM
Compare it with Teague's work on Savage

patrick goddard
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Tjm86 on 21 February, 2018, 01:41:35 PM
Point!  Apologies.   :-[
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Keef Monkey on 21 February, 2018, 01:59:46 PM
The new Dredd strip has gone a long way to boosting my thrill levels after a bit of a meh few weeks. Looks great and is ticking my sci-fi horror boxes nicely!

Other than that I still quite enjoyed Savage but the other strips were a bit of a skim through for me unfortunately. No idea what's happening in Brass Sun or ABC Warriors (and throwing more robots at it in a trademark Mills line-up style isn't going to help with that), and my interest drifts in and out of Bad Company. Some weeks I like it, others I'm not fussed. The art always looks very nice though, for all of these strips.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Tiplodocus on 22 February, 2018, 08:50:07 AM
What Keef said.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: broodblik on 22 February, 2018, 08:54:13 AM
At last Dredd is back in the Meg some real nice art

Brass Sun my current fav
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: norton canes on 22 February, 2018, 10:55:36 AM
Cover: Clint Langley drawing! It's brilliant, and desperately makes me wish he would give up his now-trademark 'Photoshopped' style. Actually it's a shame he couldn't have incorporated Blackblood into the illustration, maybe leering over the top of them all. I know, it would have too crushed, but it's a pity we don't get to see him drawn this well.

Dredd: And on the subject of superb artwork, where have they been hiding this Dave Taylor droid? Fantastic stuff, the detail in the Meg backgrounds and spaceship interiors is phenomenal, and he's found a really good take on Dredd, giving him such a gaunt look. A script full of promise from Ian Edginton, too. Going to have to track down Lamia's previous appearance.

Bad Company: Not read it yet but people here seem to be more appreciative of it as the story's worn on, so I'll probably go through it in one once it's concluded.

Savage: This run has been OK, if not gripping. The great artwork of Patrick Goddard has helped.

Brass Sun: This has suddenly turned around and become a wonderful read. All those episodes with those weird golden robots lost me - but a new life in a tropical paradise with a house on the back of a giant tortoise? Count me in! I've always thought INJ's art for this suffered in comparison to his work for Brink but the slightly freer style with less detail actually works really well in this setting. TOP THRILL!

ABC Warriors: So absurdly cliched that you can't help but think Pat Mills must have something massively subversive and self-ridiculing up his sleeve... yeah? 
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 February, 2018, 11:13:38 AM
Quote from: norton canes on 22 February, 2018, 10:55:36 AMABC Warriors: So absurdly cliched that you can't help but think Pat Mills must have something massively subversive and self-ridiculing up his sleeve... yeah?
More like it'll just stop, we'll see END OF BOOK ELEVEN BILLION and "To be continued in ABC Warriors get the gang back together again over an entire book, and then face off against a tediously listed set of opposites, before having a big scrap yet again, and are we stuck in some kind of time loop here, because it's all feeling a bit repetitive".
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Tjm86 on 22 February, 2018, 11:43:34 AM
... looks like Mr Mills has decided to use Marvel Comics Crossovers as inspiration then.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: DrJomster on 22 February, 2018, 10:43:08 PM
Very lovely Dredd this week. As mentioned above, GORGEOUS art! Good start story wise as well.

Brass Sun was also tops, as usual.

I do agreee that this was a good episode of Bad Company. I think a few things in the Prog at the moment will read better when collected.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Theblazeuk on 23 February, 2018, 12:00:59 AM
Going off Bad Company as it drags on. Never got to grips with ABC. Having this and Savage in the same prog is a bother as it burns out what little remains of my enjoyment of the latter. Howard Quartz gets a bit much (just like our real capitalist overlords, ho ho). Dredd looks like the start of something fun even if the exorcist judges are utterly daft from what little I know, space murder is good murder. And Brass Sun - I've never stopped loving this. Wasn't ready for a 5 year gap and I'm shocked at the sudden turnabout with Merlin and the Camelot robots (and whatever that plant-nun was! Thought we'd find out about them). Does this mean old smiling Kurt Vonnegut won't be with us anymore in any form? Anyway - looking forward to more and finding out what Sky Pirate has been up to.

The only thing that makes me happier than Brass Sun is Brink, Kingdom and Helium. All three of which need to come back around by the time this orbit of Brass finishes off.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: sheridan on 23 February, 2018, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: The Amstor Computer on 20 February, 2018, 01:18:40 AM
Quote from: Richard on 20 February, 2018, 12:16:05 AM
Dredd starts off promisingly. (Have we seen Lamia before? I can't remember.)

In "High Spirits", by Edginton and Taylor back in 2009 (!)

Don't think there's been another appearance sInce.

This week's Thrill-Mail presents the first appearance.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: Aaron A Aardvark on 23 February, 2018, 08:07:42 AM
The Prog's basically down to three strips I used to really like (ABC, Savage & Bad Company) and one I've never really got into.

Fortunately, Dreddd makes a promising start.

It all looks great, although Bad Company will always be in black and white for me.
Title: Re: Prog 2069 : Warrior's code
Post by: CalHab on 23 February, 2018, 08:47:06 AM
Dave Taylor's work is great here. I'd be very happy to see Tharg call on him more regularly.