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Re: Prog 2066 - Bors Hunt!
« Reply #15 on: 27 January, 2018, 09:36:07 pm »
Appreciate I'm not adding much here, just trying to justify my lack of memory I guess!

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« Reply #16 on: 28 January, 2018, 04:10:52 pm »
The Dredd tale seems rather odd to me, can't quite put my finger on it...just doesn't sit right.  Although it is in keeping with Dredd's of late. More generally, over the last few years Dredd seems to have been stumbling from one beating to the next, generally getting captured, brutalised and beaten. Along the way his life is saved fairly regularly by minor characters. I appreciate he's getting on a bit, but he's presented more often as a liability than an asset to MC1 and barely able to look after himself without continual help from others. Anyone else feel this...? May just be me of course...

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Re: Prog 2066 - Bors Hunt!
« Reply #17 on: 28 January, 2018, 07:08:12 pm »
More generally, over the last few years Dredd seems to have been stumbling from one beating to the next, generally getting captured, brutalised and beaten. Along the way his life is saved fairly regularly by minor characters. I appreciate he's getting on a bit, but he's presented more often as a liability than an asset to MC1 and barely able to look after himself without continual help from others. Anyone else feel this...?

Yup, agree totally.  It seems that many of the 'newer' writers rely too much on New Character X's special ability resolving a situation; hence Dredd regularly gets sidelined in his own strip.

Personally I'd like to see a move away from forced epics -- back to a higher proportion of MC-1 based stories with an emphasis on imaginative crimes. 

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« Reply #18 on: 29 January, 2018, 09:54:08 am »

Personally I'd like to see a move away from forced epics -- back to a higher proportion of MC-1 based stories with an emphasis on imaginative crimes.

Couldn't agree more. But I assume that'd require Tharg to find a writer or two interested in telling that particular kind of story, whereas the current crop seem almost actively afraid to tell stories about Dredd simply fighting crime in MC-1.

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« Reply #19 on: 29 January, 2018, 01:22:33 pm »
Personally I'd like to see a move away from forced epics -- back to a higher proportion of MC-1 based stories with an emphasis on imaginative crimes.

Yes that would be good. The problem is someone has to come up with an “imaginative” idea, and given the number of imaginative ones already used, it must get harder and harder to come up with new ones. As I understand it, back in the day they used the newspapers for inspiration and I guess the news today would prove some material but only so much and so you need straight action stories as well.

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« Reply #20 on: 29 January, 2018, 01:48:02 pm »
Sorry to say but I too felt it was a tired old prog this week... I couldn't follow Brass Sun action and Dredd left me cold...

Savage was like reading the Socialist Worker but with added foil hatness, while ABC and Bad Company just annoy me know...

I' go and join the grump corner shall I?
I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!

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Re: Prog 2066 - Bors Hunt!
« Reply #21 on: 29 January, 2018, 02:17:15 pm »
Personally I'd like to see a move away from forced epics -- back to a higher proportion of MC-1 based stories with an emphasis on imaginative crimes.

Yes that would be good. The problem is someone has to come up with an “imaginative” idea, and given the number of imaginative ones already used, it must get harder and harder to come up with new ones. As I understand it, back in the day they used the newspapers for inspiration and I guess the news today would prove some material but only so much and so you need straight action stories as well.

Yesterday's 2000ad stories is today's news is another problem!!!  :lol:

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« Reply #22 on: 29 January, 2018, 09:06:41 pm »
The Dredd tale seems rather odd to me, can't quite put my finger on it...just doesn't sit right...

Defo agree with this, if not the rest. I've been trying to work out why and to be honest I think its they way Dredd seems to have resigned to his fate and accepted a roll I just don't think he would. He's about as indomitable a spirit in a comicsphere full of indomitabe characters, yet here he just seems so dominited.... I assume is the word if the other is imdomitable.

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« Reply #23 on: 29 January, 2018, 10:18:43 pm »
You know what ...that's exactly it. No way would Dredd just let this stuff happen.

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« Reply #24 on: 30 January, 2018, 08:34:19 pm »
You've hit the nail on the head there Colin, does rather fit with Dredd not being so much of a 'doer' these days but more someone who has things done to him...

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« Reply #25 on: 31 January, 2018, 12:20:58 am »
Cover - Is that supposed to be a pun?  I'm not sure, because I don't have a clue what 'Bors' is. 

Tordelsplaining: one of Arthur's knights (played by Terry Gilliam in MPatHG and Ray Winstone in the rubbish Keira Knightley one, for point of reference), here one of the Round-Table-themed android agents of Merlin,  the central antagonist in Brass Sun. His robo-head is a boar helmet,  although I don't think Sir Bors (or his same-named Dad) had anything to do with boars per Dr.

But yes, a pun.


Bors didn't appear in Boorman's Excalibur... so it isn't canon :-)

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« Reply #26 on: 31 January, 2018, 12:21:54 am »
A fairly by the numbers Dredd that I found lacking in excitement. Odd to see Dredd sitting in bed.


Yes, he normally takes the regulatory ten.

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« Reply #27 on: 31 January, 2018, 12:24:34 am »
Have to agree with Woolly there - it's all very well having jumping aboard progs, but if you're going to have ongoing chapters stretching out over years you're probably going to lose them again quick enough without some form of recap. That might be tedious for long-term readers, but they have the option to skip them.


All us long-term readers are old enough we need a memory jog every now and then!  They're on your head!  I said, your glasses are on your head.  Would you like a nice mug of cocoa before you go to bed?

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Re: Prog 2066 - Bors Hunt!
« Reply #28 on: 31 January, 2018, 12:37:21 am »
You've hit the nail on the head there Colin, does rather fit with Dredd not being so much of a 'doer' these days but more someone who has things done to him...

Is there any difference to what's happening in this week's prog and what happened near the beginning of the Judge Child Quest with Filmore Faro?

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« Reply #29 on: 31 January, 2018, 04:04:25 am »
Is there any difference to what's happening in this week's prog and what happened near the beginning of the Judge Child Quest with Filmore Faro?

Aside from Dredd taking charge of the situation, pretending to be a slave, escaping within 7 pages, being captured (this time for real), escaping within 3 pages, and a highly memorable bad guy (i.e. Faro)...?