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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #15 on: 18 February, 2018, 02:19:58 pm »
Not any more, after the Fox deal.

I haven't been following that particularly closely, but I'd be pretty damn happy if Marvel can fold the X-Men and FF back into the MCU.

Still, with reference to the complaints about lack of decent villains, it doesn't change the fact that for the previous eighteen movies, they've had a lot of their big guns unavailable due to rights issues…
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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #16 on: 18 February, 2018, 02:46:50 pm »
Per an interesting conversation over on FB on the scarcity of decent villains in the MCU: who are the big/classic villains of the Marvel (comic) universe? They should definitely promote D'Onofrio's Kingpin to the big leagues and stick him in the next Spider-Man movie, but who else sits at the top of the villain league? Magneto, Doom, Galactus, various iterations of the Hellfire Club… all unavailable to Marvel. I've never been a huge Marvel fanboy, so I'm wracking my brain trying to think of obvious "heavy hitters" other than Thanos…

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #17 on: 18 February, 2018, 05:15:23 pm »
I'm wracking my brain trying to think of obvious "heavy hitters" other than Thanos…

Leaving aside the obvious Return Of The Red Skull,  Modok would be my choice.  Fin Fang Foom might be sailing a bit close to the wind. Mole Man would be great (I encountered him as a Hulk villain,  but maybe he's Fantastic Four...?).

I imagine the Skrulls are coming along post-Infinity War anyway.

Hard No to the Beyonder and the Brood,  please, but I'd quite like to see Mojo.

TBH I thought the last few villains (Ego,  the Vulture, Hela) were all good value,  as were the Black Panther duo.

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #18 on: 18 February, 2018, 06:06:24 pm »
Kang the Conqueror would be good to see.

I’ve always wanted to see Mysterio in a Spidey film and there’s loads of cinematic potential for him. I’d also like to see Puma, who would help with diversifying the MCU a bit as well as being a really interesting under used character.

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #19 on: 19 February, 2018, 08:58:34 pm »
Yes, I enjoyed this latest Marvel offering. The franchise is chugging along nicely and I'm happy to stay aboard.


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« Reply #20 on: 20 February, 2018, 02:02:27 am »
I haven't seen it but I have heard it has a predominantly black cast, apart from Martin Friedman (Bilbo Baggins) and Andy Sirkis (Gollum) as the Tolkien white guys
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« Reply #21 on: 23 February, 2018, 08:23:10 pm »
Just out of seeing this with my wife (only her second Marvel movie after Homecoming), my kids (keeping up the tradition- we've seen everything at the pics bar GotG2), my second-youngest stepson and his mate.
Everyone- including my wife- loved it to bits. I had a full bladder going in (late parking) and wasn't relishing the idea of 2.25 hours of crossing my legs, but it just flew. Great cast, a witty and at times thoughtful script, really nice action set pieces and nothing extraneous on screen.
We all walked out grinning and amazed that, yet again, Marvel Studios keep on getting better and more assured.
I really thought Black Panther was going to be the one to break the streak- both creatively and, in the light of Trump's America, financially. I'm really, really glad I obviously don't know squat.
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« Reply #22 on: 04 March, 2018, 05:29:18 pm »
Not very good. Even for an origin story this went on far too long, including showing us some important information and then showing it again for a bit more for dramatic effect.

There was quite a bit to like but not enough, and certainly not enough Black Panther in his costume for me. I really, really wanted to like it but Ant Man did it better...And so did Doctor Strange for that matter.

I have a mixed race family, whom I love very dearly, so race was not an issue for me, but this just seemed a bit over the top in that regard but there were some good performances. The direction of the fight scenes was poor imo. Far too close and not enough danger posed.

The most damaging aspect imo is that it was boring for long parts of the film.

Not a movie I will re-visit in the near future.

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #23 on: 04 March, 2018, 07:11:52 pm »
Not very good. Even for an origin story this went on far too long,

Was it really an origin story?  I appreciate that it explained BP's powers and background,  all functions of an origin story,  but T'Challa had already been Black Pantherin' quite successfully in Civil War, and thus had already taken the potion while his pop was still king - and we only saw that stuff happen here in relation to the current plot, there was only one brief bit of reused footage and no flashbacks covering it.

For me it was really more of a development story (like Spiderman: Homecoming), seeing T'Challa dealing with the new mantle of king, getting new gear,  all that. The hero-is-born stuff of an Iron Man/CaPtain America/Antman/Dr Strange didn't really feature.
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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #24 on: 04 March, 2018, 07:56:10 pm »
Not very good. Even for an origin story this went on far too long,

Was it really an origin story?

For me it was.

Depends I suppose how much you are into the Marvel Universe films.

For me this explained, and over explained too much.

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #25 on: 04 March, 2018, 08:32:24 pm »
Really liked it. Marvel just keep cranking out the 4/5 movies, their formula shows no signs of failing.

"Superhero fatigue" is something you think you get if you watch more than 6 minutes of Batman vs Superman, then realise isn't a thing as soon as the next offering from the House of Spidey comes swinging around.

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #26 on: 05 March, 2018, 02:20:26 pm »
I saw it with Mrs IP this morning, while mini-IP was at pre-school. We both quite liked it, although my wife's initial thoughts – "It wasn't as good as the new Thor" (which we'd just seen on DVD) – rather aligned with mine.

A good chunk of the movie was at least interesting. New things to see. Delving into a different culture. Great representation for black people and women. (And an actual range of women, rather than a Black Widow-style "must be every single type of woman, because god forbid we have more than one on the team".) Many, many shades of grey regarding heritage, responsibility, and so on. But some things were a bit weird. A section in South Korea, where our hero seems not remotely bothered about collateral damage or deaths. The manner in which Wakandan technology is either impenetrable or fragile, depending on the requirements of the script at that precise moment.

The lack of surprises was a pity. After the way in which Thor kept barrelling along, it was odd to be back with an extremely formulaic movie, where almost every beat was known. Oh, he got fished out of the water by the mountain tribe. WHAT A SURPRISE. Fighter pilot suddenly has to shoot down all the fleeing ships. HUGE SHOCK. And so on.

So a solid 3/5 from me. Good, but not great. About on a par with the slightly disappointing Guardians of the Galaxy 2, better than the deeply dull, disappointing and grey Doctor Strange, far beyond the mess of Age of Ultron, but left in the dust of the surprisingly great Spider-Man, and amusingly bonkers Ragnarok.

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Re: Black Panther - Please add your review
« Reply #27 on: 05 March, 2018, 04:48:04 pm »
I saw it again.
I missed the pre-credits 'story' and '90s scene'
Weirdly it played better.
I would give it a solid 4/5

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« Reply #28 on: 13 March, 2018, 07:48:35 pm »
Formulaic but fun. And probably the best Bond film since THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

In fact, now that I think about it, one of the things the Marvel movies tend to have in common is how well put-together the action set-pieces are — it’s incredibly rare to not know who everyone is, where they are and what they’re doing, even in big, multi-character action sequences. I’ve seen plenty of big budget action films in recent where that very much isn’t the case.

Sadly, my local Cineworld remains clueless when it comes to picture contrast. I very nearly walked out during the jungle rescue because it was an effort sometimes to discern just what the fuck was happening. Ditto the casino and the subsequent car chase. And the various cave-based ceremonies. Likewise the final battle on the train track. So basically anything underground or at night. Which pretty much amounted to half the fucking movie.
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« Reply #29 on: 31 March, 2018, 12:34:55 am »
I liked it. The cutting back on the humour was a very good move. Loved the cast and the story was involving. I could see the point of view of Eric, but he was so unbalanced, he thought he was going to be  helping oppressed people, but had no long term vision for the future. Certainly wasn't a one dimensional character for me. If he was taken back to Wakanda as a child, his life would have turned out to be a lot different.

Soundtrack was unique to the Marvel films. Loved the scenes in South Korea. They really can take this series of films in any direction.

Ryan Coogler hasn't made a bad film yet, his next film is Wrong Answer and it looks interesting, Michael Jordan starring again, which will be their fourth collaboration.
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