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Title: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Frank on 12 November, 2018, 06:53:22 PM

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stan-lee-marvel-comics-legend-721450


Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Greg M. on 12 November, 2018, 06:56:40 PM
Nuff said...
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: broodblik on 12 November, 2018, 06:59:05 PM
Sad news.......
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Smith on 12 November, 2018, 07:00:58 PM
Just heard it. :'(
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: TordelBack on 12 November, 2018, 07:13:19 PM
Ah shite.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: von Boom on 12 November, 2018, 07:19:35 PM
Sad, sad news.  :'(
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: McNulty on 12 November, 2018, 07:53:00 PM
RIP Stan Lee - You will be missed, but by God you left a great legacy.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Smith on 12 November, 2018, 07:56:22 PM
"And now, until we meet again, may the blessings of Asgard be showered upon you!"
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 November, 2018, 07:58:10 PM
Very sorry news for comic book fans but his volume of work is probably unparalleled, Excelsior no more.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 12 November, 2018, 08:19:09 PM
Haven't read a massive amount of Marvel stuff in my adult years but I've been aware of Stan and his status as a living legend as long as I can remember.  We're lucky to have had him.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Tjm86 on 12 November, 2018, 08:29:37 PM
"We know too many of these kids."
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 November, 2018, 08:55:58 PM
Investigative journalist Mark Ebner's recent podcast gives an in depth look into Stan's final days: a man and his estate gradually picked apart by vultures.

https://thegreyzone.libsyn.com/excelsior
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 November, 2018, 09:09:33 PM
Few will leave the legacy of Stan Lee. A life lived well.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: rogue69 on 12 November, 2018, 11:47:48 PM
It is impossible to name anyone else who has made such an impact on the world of comics, both for the good & bad like Stan Lee he may be gone but will for forever live on in all the characters he co-created  & everything that has been influenced by him in all forms media. R.I.P Stan Lee 
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Heath C Ackley on 13 November, 2018, 02:33:25 PM
Sad news to hear about the passing of a great ambassador for the medium. As a kid I used to read the Marvel UK reprints of the original FF Lee/Kirby stories (as well as the British humour comics and 2000ad of course!) Back then, DC never seemed to appeal to me whereas Marvel had a kind of youthful vibrancy about it.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Goaty on 13 November, 2018, 09:27:24 PM
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46177270_10156579749696636_6805499010497904640_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=372679ca459a97ab23c2f72d55de4166&oe=5C81A30C)
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Frank on 14 November, 2018, 11:41:52 AM

From The 13th Dimension.com (https://13thdimension.com/stan-lee-an-appreciation-by-dave-gibbons/?fbclid=IwAR2hmKiOJ_aj7qflgSiZLmlAkfdvrhJxKVzWQa2-vMobfTTJWuxBjUZhU3Y), a personal appreciation of Stan Lee by DAVE GIBBONS

Growing up, I loved American comics. Published in far off New York, their creators seemed a world away and my chances of ever joining them seemed highly unlikely.

DC Comics were my first love but, increasingly, in those equally far-off days of the early '60s, Marvel Comics, originally quite shabby and crude, were becoming more and more attractive under the direction of their flamboyant writer and editor Stan Lee. Eventually, particularly thrilled by the first issue of Marvel's Daredevil, I wrote a fan letter and mailed it to New York.

I might as well have mailed it to Mars, I thought but, amazingly, when I got in from school a few weeks later there was a blue postcard waiting behind the clock in the hall. It was postmarked New York and, though the message on the back was printed, hand-written across it was: "Glad you liked Daredevil! Stan and The Gang." I read and re-read it a hundred times. It was a tiny strand of connection across the wide ocean but connection it was.

Many years later, having made that transatlantic connection more permanent, I finally got to meet Stan. He was in England to promote Marvel and we were both booked to appear on a kid's TV programme. Over lunch, I showed Stan the faded, yet still-treasured postcard. I knew from the fan press what his reaction would be.

"That's great, Dave, but I didn't write that. Flo did."

"Fabulous" Flo Steinberg had been tasked with Marvel's fan relations in the sixties and it fell to her to autograph letters, postcards and no-prizes. Even as a fake, the card lost none of its talismanic power for me, it just stretched the connection a little further. And now, I had shaken Stan's hand, even had lunch with him. Not only that, but he knew and liked my work and agreed that it would be great to do something together.

The deal was that I'd plot and draw a story and he'd add dialogue. That was fine with me and I turned for inspiration to the very first story Stan had ever had published, a two-page text story in a Captain America comic from the early forties. I built out the short idea into a fully blown graphic novel, wrote a detailed plot and sent it to Stan. And waited.

Eventually Stan got in touch and suggested that, as we were both going to be at that year's San Diego Comic-Con, we should meet and discuss it. Both very busy, we met in between events and retreated to a far, quiet corner of the massive lobby, where we sat on the floor and got down to business.

By that time, Stan was doing little writing and was perhaps best known as a ringmaster and spokesman for Marvel, sometimes dismissed by a younger generation as just a glib huckster. Stan was a great publicist, no doubt, but that day, I learnt what a master of storytelling he truly was. Slowly, carefully, he went through my plot, noting what he liked and what he didn't but, most importantly, telling me exactly how I could improve it. His editorial judgment was absolutely on target. It was a master class that I felt privileged to have been given.

I happily re-jigged the plot and even drew the whole thing out in thumbnail form. However, the project stalled at the Marvel offices, for reasons that remain obscure, and eventually I reluctantly put it away in the drawer marked "Might Have Been." I didn't make any money on it but it remains one of my most rewarding projects, if only for that unforgettable meeting with Stan.

The years passed and one day, out of left field, I got a phone call from DC Comics. Now semi-retired from Marvel, Stan had agreed to re-imagine the DC Universe of characters and they wondered if I would be interested in collaborating with him. You bet I was.

So it was that we created our version of Green Lantern and worked together on story and art. I held many of our creative discussions from the comfort of my home kitchen. The setting may still have been quite humble but, again, the lessons I learned were beyond price.

Others will deservedly eulogize the scope of Stan's amazing career and achievements. His contribution to comics and beyond, to global culture, is without equal and many of us comics folk might not have had our careers without the attention he brought to our chosen medium. His collaborations with Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko and others are surely among the most potent and universally enjoyed stories ever created.

For myself, I feel privileged to have such personal memories of The Man. Along with that blue postcard, I will treasure them forever.



Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Rately on 14 November, 2018, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Frank on 14 November, 2018, 11:41:52 AM

From The 13th Dimension.com (https://13thdimension.com/stan-lee-an-appreciation-by-dave-gibbons/?fbclid=IwAR2hmKiOJ_aj7qflgSiZLmlAkfdvrhJxKVzWQa2-vMobfTTJWuxBjUZhU3Y), a personal appreciation of Stan Lee by DAVE GIBBONS

Growing up, I loved American comics. Published in far off New York, their creators seemed a world away and my chances of ever joining them seemed highly unlikely.

DC Comics were my first love but, increasingly, in those equally far-off days of the early '60s, Marvel Comics, originally quite shabby and crude, were becoming more and more attractive under the direction of their flamboyant writer and editor Stan Lee. Eventually, particularly thrilled by the first issue of Marvel's Daredevil, I wrote a fan letter and mailed it to New York.

I might as well have mailed it to Mars, I thought but, amazingly, when I got in from school a few weeks later there was a blue postcard waiting behind the clock in the hall. It was postmarked New York and, though the message on the back was printed, hand-written across it was: "Glad you liked Daredevil! Stan and The Gang." I read and re-read it a hundred times. It was a tiny strand of connection across the wide ocean but connection it was.

Many years later, having made that transatlantic connection more permanent, I finally got to meet Stan. He was in England to promote Marvel and we were both booked to appear on a kid's TV programme. Over lunch, I showed Stan the faded, yet still-treasured postcard. I knew from the fan press what his reaction would be.

"That's great, Dave, but I didn't write that. Flo did."

"Fabulous" Flo Steinberg had been tasked with Marvel's fan relations in the sixties and it fell to her to autograph letters, postcards and no-prizes. Even as a fake, the card lost none of its talismanic power for me, it just stretched the connection a little further. And now, I had shaken Stan's hand, even had lunch with him. Not only that, but he knew and liked my work and agreed that it would be great to do something together.

The deal was that I'd plot and draw a story and he'd add dialogue. That was fine with me and I turned for inspiration to the very first story Stan had ever had published, a two-page text story in a Captain America comic from the early forties. I built out the short idea into a fully blown graphic novel, wrote a detailed plot and sent it to Stan. And waited.

Eventually Stan got in touch and suggested that, as we were both going to be at that year's San Diego Comic-Con, we should meet and discuss it. Both very busy, we met in between events and retreated to a far, quiet corner of the massive lobby, where we sat on the floor and got down to business.

By that time, Stan was doing little writing and was perhaps best known as a ringmaster and spokesman for Marvel, sometimes dismissed by a younger generation as just a glib huckster. Stan was a great publicist, no doubt, but that day, I learnt what a master of storytelling he truly was. Slowly, carefully, he went through my plot, noting what he liked and what he didn't but, most importantly, telling me exactly how I could improve it. His editorial judgment was absolutely on target. It was a master class that I felt privileged to have been given.

I happily re-jigged the plot and even drew the whole thing out in thumbnail form. However, the project stalled at the Marvel offices, for reasons that remain obscure, and eventually I reluctantly put it away in the drawer marked "Might Have Been." I didn't make any money on it but it remains one of my most rewarding projects, if only for that unforgettable meeting with Stan.

The years passed and one day, out of left field, I got a phone call from DC Comics. Now semi-retired from Marvel, Stan had agreed to re-imagine the DC Universe of characters and they wondered if I would be interested in collaborating with him. You bet I was.

So it was that we created our version of Green Lantern and worked together on story and art. I held many of our creative discussions from the comfort of my home kitchen. The setting may still have been quite humble but, again, the lessons I learned were beyond price.

Others will deservedly eulogize the scope of Stan's amazing career and achievements. His contribution to comics and beyond, to global culture, is without equal and many of us comics folk might not have had our careers without the attention he brought to our chosen medium. His collaborations with Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko and others are surely among the most potent and universally enjoyed stories ever created.

For myself, I feel privileged to have such personal memories of The Man. Along with that blue postcard, I will treasure them forever.


Wow. Lovely stuff.

Thanks for sharing, Frank.

Be amazing to see that Lee / Gibbon's Captain America story released!
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 14 November, 2018, 02:57:17 PM
Very nice little piece there, Frank.

And Goaty, excellent as always.
Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Frank on 15 November, 2018, 06:58:46 PM

The Failing New York Times published Brian Michael Bendis's reminiscence of his encounters with Stan Lee as a comic strip with art by Bill Walko (LINK (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/obituaries/my-moments-with-stan.html))

(https://i.imgur.com/zm06qaN.png?2)


Thanks to Michael Carroll


Title: Re: RIP Stan Lee
Post by: Dandontdare on 20 November, 2018, 01:01:20 PM
oops! (https://geektyrant.com/news/spike-lee-responds-to-new-zealand-magazine-mistaking-him-for-stan-lee)