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Don't get pedantic with the Dark side...leave your grammatical criticims for the one who calls himself Yoda..

Someone should tell them to stop!

Yeah, but Cameron and Clegg made the recession worse on purpose...so they could laugh at people like me.

I'm sure more would have attended if Cameron and Clegg hadn't made the recession worse.

No it don't.

Why are you having a pop at ole MacDonald , what about you're local boozery? I know it's an Englishman's right to enjoy a pint, but alcohol consumption turns our town centre to a no go zone at Friday and Saturday evenings.

I remember the secrecy surrounding the film, just a few photo stills on this forum, surely the main platform for DREDD, and a very short film clip that was gone in a matter of hours...very vague details over the action of the movie. It made area51 seem more accessible.

In one respect Ikm glad I had little idea of what the film would be like because when I first got to see it I was, as I've already said, ecstatic. It was a white knuckle ride all the way through...I kept expecting it to lose pace or go "stallone-ish", but it never did. And it has wider appeal.

I saw an advert for it in The Sun newspaper giving it a 10 out of 10 rating...I'd say the same.

Have you heard they've invented a new coffin for Ed?
It's from the head down to shoulders.

It's for people who are dead from the neck up.

The trouble is that you only know and think this after or during seeing the film. You can't tell this from the trailers or if you are unfamiliar with Dredd.

I think that the two most obvious reasons are the real reasons Dredd has struggled.

1. 3D - People are getting genuinely sick of it.
2. Dredd is a 'niche' character, even within the comics world, and of limited appeal, especially to the general public.

That's it, sad, but true. Of course we, on a dedicated Dredd fan forum, will argue otherwise, but I think a few people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Surely though those involved with making the film knew this, as we ourselves knew this. If that is the case, why express disappointment at the numbers? I'm perplexed. It's too bigger of a risk to take if you already know it will have limited appeal to hope that film fans will suddenly have a Saul to Damascus moment, and suddenly take Dredd to their hearts.

You're right, there are many who need converting. Keep spreading the good word brothers and sisters.

It is so ironic, also, that Dredd is about the only film where the 3D does actually suit it.

That sounds a bit vague.

The Stallone movie was a farse. Dredd on the other hand was well executed and purged the memory of the '95 dismal failure. 2012v. didn't do well outside the Dredd constituency because the lines between good guys and bad guys isn't so obvious as it is in most mainstream films. Good and Evil merge and blur in Dredd, it's not like Batman, you really do wonder if Dredd is right or wrong in his behaviour. It's a bloody wonderful film. Fuck the bloody capitalists.

"Where did district 9 go right where DREDD went wrong?" Blandness, I'd humbly opine. The more bland something is, the more mass appeal it will have. DREDD is just simply too far out for most to get there heads around. Ask how many would want to see a film like "The Naked Lunch" . Croenberg is famous and successful with a real enviable reputation and ouvre. That can be multiplied by ten for Burroughs. How popular is it though?

You seem to be saying that the less well a movie does, the better it is, because the common crowd just don't understand it?
And comparing an action movie like Dredd to cronenberg's art house movies doesn't really work. They are totally different beasts.

I am suggesting that, yes. Although you have sort of got the cart in front of the horse...the less well a movie is understood the worse it does in popularity. Blandness, plebinisation sells...big muscular hero saves beautiful co starring actress...Dredd and Naked Lunch are neither of these, and I shall compare seemingly disparate films ... Especially when Dredd owes so much to Burroughs.

"Where did district 9 go right where DREDD went wrong?" Blandness, I'd humbly opine. The more bland something is, the more mass appeal it will have. DREDD is just simply too far out for most to get there heads around. Ask how many would want to see a film like "The Naked Lunch" . Croenberg is famous and successful with a real enviable reputation and ouvre. That can be multiplied by ten for Burroughs. How popular is it though?

Sorry Jim. One's been a total ass. Can one forgive one for one's folly??

Glad to hear some good news....

...and tonight Matthew...I'm going to be "The Scissor Sisters"....

I concede the point about the late Jim Broadbent, although I'll always think of him as Slater.

Sorry, did I sound ever so beastly? How utterly mean and wretched I behaved. Can you forgive me?