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Title: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 03 April, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
Hello people!

I am a fan and collector of 2000ADs, Megazines and Crisis issues. As of today, I own 1100 2000ADs and I decided to bind them in large hardback volumes so I can properly store and display on my bookcases. I am in the process of arranging and scheduling my book-binding work at hand and I came up with a question :

I know that 2000AD has changed various sizes during the years of its publication. Can you please give me a list containing issue numbers of when all of those changes occured?

Please, help a fellow Greek Earthlet organise his collection!

P.S. If anyone knows where I can find a Nikolai Dante - Tsar Wars vol.2 trade paperback, please share the info! It's the only one missing from my entire Nikolai Dante collection (11 trades). Thanks!!
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: Rogue Judge on 03 April, 2017, 09:40:23 PM
Hi jpentz, welcome to the board! Sounds like a great collection and binding will be a great way to collect and read all that thrill power.

This thread has some binding examples and may have some of the info you are looking for:
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=44101.msg943851#msg943851

Good luck
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 03 April, 2017, 10:00:08 PM
Thanks for the link, will check it now!
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 04 April, 2017, 11:09:01 AM
Unfortunately, that post didn't help me. If anyone else can help, I eould be grateful!
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: blixab on 04 April, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
Progs 1-519
Progs 520 - 1370
Progs 1371 - current

They are the three noticeable changes
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 05 April, 2017, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: blixab on 04 April, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
Progs 1-519
Progs 520 - 1370
Progs 1371 - current

They are the three noticeable changes

Forgot to mention the 110-127 change in size, right?
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: Tony Angelino on 05 April, 2017, 09:22:51 AM
At least those are reasonable runs. I seem to remember Battle changed size in the 70's or 80's for only about 3 issues (roughly the prog 110-127 size). Must make binding them a bit of a tricky one. 
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jrdd on 06 April, 2017, 12:07:30 AM
I kept info on the various formats when I was figuring out storage options a while back:


1 to 109240 x 280mm / 9.5 x 11in
110 to 127215 x 280mm / 8.5 x 11in
128 to 519240 x 280mm / 9.5 x 11in
520 to 1032230 x 300mm / 9 x 11.75in
1033 to 1199210 x 300mm / 8.25 x 11.75in
1200 to 1370195 x 300mm / 7.75 x 11.75in
1371 to present210 x 280mm / 8.25 x 11in

The sizes of the newsprint progs (pre 520) probably vary a little bit, as the folding and cutting of each prog was sometimes a bit erratic...
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: The Adventurer on 06 April, 2017, 05:10:22 AM
Quote from: jrdd on 06 April, 2017, 12:07:30 AM


1033 to 1199210 x 300mm / 8.25 x 11.75in
1200 to 1370195 x 300mm / 7.75 x 11.75in


Huh. I never realized Narrow era started Narrow, then got EVEN NARROWER before Rebellion decided 'US Comics shape SUCKS'

Also, strickly speaking 8.25 x 11in Started with Prog 2004.
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 06 April, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: jrdd on 06 April, 2017, 12:07:30 AM
I kept info on the various formats when I was figuring out storage options a while back:


1 to 109240 x 280mm / 9.5 x 11in
110 to 127215 x 280mm / 8.5 x 11in
128 to 519240 x 280mm / 9.5 x 11in
520 to 1032230 x 300mm / 9 x 11.75in
1033 to 1199210 x 300mm / 8.25 x 11.75in
1200 to 1370195 x 300mm / 7.75 x 11.75in
1371 to present210 x 280mm / 8.25 x 11in

The sizes of the newsprint progs (pre 520) probably vary a little bit, as the folding and cutting of each prog was sometimes a bit erratic...

That is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Many many thanks my friend!!!

P.S. Was surprised to ask the same question on the official twitter account and get the response that they didn't know and I should check at the fan forums! Too bored to check I guess!
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: sheridan on 06 April, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: jpentz on 06 April, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
P.S. Was surprised to ask the same question on the official twitter account and get the response that they didn't know and I should check at the fan forums! Too bored to check I guess!

Bored or busy?  Can't figure out if that's a typo or not.  Good luck with the binding - post pics when done!
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 07 April, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
Just completed my list, I would upload it here for anyone to see, but I can't find how to do this here.

By the way, anyone has a similar list for the JD Megazine?
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: positronic on 08 April, 2017, 07:19:34 AM
Quote from: jrdd on 06 April, 2017, 12:07:30 AM
I kept info on the various formats when I was figuring out storage options a while back:


1 to 109240 x 280mm / 9.5 x 11in
110 to 127215 x 280mm / 8.5 x 11in
128 to 519240 x 280mm / 9.5 x 11in
520 to 1032230 x 300mm / 9 x 11.75in
1033 to 1199210 x 300mm / 8.25 x 11.75in
1200 to 1370195 x 300mm / 7.75 x 11.75in
1371 to present210 x 280mm / 8.25 x 11in

The sizes of the newsprint progs (pre 520) probably vary a little bit, as the folding and cutting of each prog was sometimes a bit erratic...

Hey, this is great! I would give you a "LIKE" if that were possible. There really should be a button for that here somewhere.

I don't own any of the originals, but this particular topic is one that I'd been wondering about in relation to the size of various reprint collections. I knew the older 2000 AD progs were bigger, and in particular relatively wider. It's an issue of concern to me because as most of you are probably aware, Rebellion's trade paperback collections are standardized as far as the height and width, and this is generally not much of an issue when reprinting material from progs 1371 to present, but the older stories look a little cramped when printed at the standard TPB size.

So you see, I really would like to have most of the stories from the earlier progs (pre-1033, but most especially pre-520) reprinted in a larger size. I have the IDW Dredd hardcover collections, and the Rebellion A.B.C. Warriors/Ro-Busters hardcover collections which are the same size. I wish more early material was reprinted in this format.

I don't have access (in the U.S.) to purchase these at the moment, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me what are the dimensions of the Judge Dredd Mega Collection (these are hardcovers, right?)

Oh, and one last thing I just thought of -- can someone add the sizes of Starlord, Dice Man, Judge Dredd Megazine (I know this one varied over time as well), and any other original 2000 AD spinoff titles they know of?
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 13 April, 2017, 04:58:45 PM
I am repeating and, a bit, expanding the question I asked above in the hope someone can provide some help:

Anyone knows the different changes in size of Judge Dredd Megazine and Crisis, and at what issues those took place?
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 April, 2017, 05:16:02 PM
Quote from: positronic on 08 April, 2017, 07:19:34 AMI don't have access (in the U.S.) to purchase these at the moment, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me what are the dimensions of the Judge Dredd Mega Collection (these are hardcovers, right?)
Those volumes are 195mm x 253mm. Spines vary by book, but the volume I just pulled off of the shelf (47) was 16mm.
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jrdd on 14 April, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
Glad this is proving helpful!  Megs...


1:1 to 2:9200 x 300mm / 8 x 11.75in
2:10 to 3:38230 x 300mm / 9 x 11.75in
3:39 to 3:63210 x 300mm / 8.25 x 11.75in
3:64 to 3:79230 x 300mm / 9 x 11.75in
4:1 to 4:18195 x 300mm / 7.75 x 11.75in
201 to present210 x 280mm / 8.25 x 11in
Floppies190 x 260mm / 7.5 x 10.2in

Regrettably my Spreadsheet of Thrill-power Facts doesn't cover the other publications, but from what I recall...

Specials: As Prog 520 wide format, with those issued in the 70s and since 2000 in the current Prog format, or thereabouts.  The Dredd Mega-Special varied in size most issues, with the last 4 as Prog 520.

Starlord: Like New Eagle (bit wider than Prog 1033 A4 format?)

Tornado: As Prog 1

Diceman: Think this was the Prog 520 wide format

Revolver: As Meg 1:1 narrow format (same for the special)

Crisis: As Meg 1:1 narrow format, except last 4 issues, and Crisis / Xpresso specials which were Prog 520 wide format

Poster Progs: A4 I think (well, until unfolded... ::)), except the 1970s Dan Dare one which I think was larger, maybe nearer to Prog 520 format

Lawman of the Future: Not sure, but smaller than current prog - similar to Meg floppies maybe.

Annuals: 195 x 275mm (7.6 x 10.8in) - I happen to have the 2000AD 1980 annual on the shelf for some reason.

Yearbooks: Prog 520 format?

Reprint mags: I think these tended to reflect the era they were reprinting, so Best Of 2K, Complete JD started as Prog 1 format and moved to Prog 520 format.  Classic 2K and Classic JD varied between A4, the narrow Prog 1200 format and the wide Prog 520 format.  No idea what the issues numbers of the changes are though.

More than happy for people to update any of that - the spreadsheet's always hungry for more data...
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: positronic on 14 April, 2017, 04:06:17 PM
Thanks, jrdd! Consider yourself bestowed with ... oh, I should say at least ... FIVE virtual "likes".  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Various 2000 AD magazine sizes
Post by: jpentz on 18 April, 2017, 03:53:34 PM
jrdd, you are exceptional my friend!