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2000 AD => General => Topic started by: Mangamax on 15 November, 2009, 11:38:01 AM

Title: Rampots
Post by: Mangamax on 15 November, 2009, 11:38:01 AM
Spent yesterday in a brilliantly stormy and atmospheric Hastings.
Always pleased to see that Albion Bookshop is still going and is still filled with tons of secondhand books, annuals and comics.
Picked up for a quid two Beanos for the kids and a Prog for myself from the wilderness couple of years when i abandoned it.
Get home and,  ;D , its got Rampots in it.
Never seen the finished version before, only know it from the John Wagner script and Jock's prelims that i own.
So its been real interesting to see how the final version differs in composition from the original roughs.
Was quite suprised to see that the script altered too. I'd have thought that that would have been set in stone?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Mangamax/PB150488.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Mangamax/PB150489.jpg)

Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Dr Feeley Good on 15 November, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
 I used to own that script and prelims ! and i sold them on Ebay,is that where you got it from ?
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Mangamax on 15 November, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
Yep!  ;D
And thanks again  ;)
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Zarjazzer on 15 November, 2009, 01:23:37 PM
That looks really grand. Don't remember it myself but my memory is going owing to dfdirnk fueld kjufhhnv n 
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: jock on 15 November, 2009, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: Mangamax on 15 November, 2009, 11:38:01 AM

Was quite suprised to see that the script altered too. I'd have thought that that would have been set in stone?



hey eric -

i remember that was one of the few times the script got edited down - andy diggle was editor at the time and he checked with john to see if it would be okay. it was after a phone conversation i had with andy where we talked about there being a little too much information (at the end if i remember correctly?) so we cut it to finish with dredd on a classic 'arrest' panel. it hopefully tightened it up a bit.

funnily enough, i've just dug out a load of old 2000AD layouts and cover sketches from my garage today - including character designs for the next Lenny Zero story we had planned. if i get a chance i'll scan some in and post them here.

jock
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Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: TordelBack on 15 November, 2009, 04:05:34 PM
This place is the greatest.
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Too right it is......  Hurry Jock, I'll make you a cuppa if you'd like to do it now?  Please?  Pretty please?.... *Mike is carted away by men in whitish coats with spatters of red*
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Mangamax on 15 November, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Hey back at'cha Jock.
Yup, you're right - as well as some minor dialogue changes, the tale is missing its last two panels, which show how Bill Nerd's actually let off of doing time and ends with a pissed off Dredd.
As you say, the finished version is a better, more in-keeping ending.
Prelims for the proposed Zero you say?
That'd be good to see.
Especially as its been (blimey) 7 years since i got a taster:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Mangamax/3copy.jpg)




Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: jock on 17 November, 2009, 06:51:39 PM
yeah, ZERO's SEVEN. we had it all planned out with the first 5 pages of script and layouts all done... here's a few of the character designs -- SHUGGY BEAR was a favorite, but he clearly needs a bigger gut.

there's also a key frame from the aborted MTV/2000AD animation, of Durham Red.

+ i have more cover sketches i've found -i'll post them when i get the chance.



Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: longmanshort on 17 November, 2009, 07:13:15 PM
:)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/longmanshort/P1030956.jpg)
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Kerrin on 17 November, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
Blimey, cheers Jock, Love seeing design sketches, 'specially annotated ones. Great bear.

Just finished the TPBs of Losers as well, class in a glass sir.
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: TordelBack on 18 November, 2009, 08:49:36 AM
Wow!

C'mon lads, throw away your filthy dollars, we need to see this!
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: jock on 18 November, 2009, 06:37:49 PM
couple more cover sketches --- kano and dredd -

Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Colin YNWA on 18 November, 2009, 07:31:28 PM
Kinda feels a bit redundant praising someone as talented as Jock (well actually that's abit of a rubbish thing isn't it...anyhoo) that Kano ROCKS!
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Mike Gloady on 18 November, 2009, 08:15:00 PM
Jock, thanks for this.  And one day we'll get that promised Lenny Zero return, right?

RIGHT?

God, this is like when I was told there wasn't an Easter Bunny, a Father Christmas OR a birthday tramp! 
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: jock on 19 November, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
i'd love to do Zero's Seven, yeah.... we'll see!
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Kev Levell on 19 November, 2009, 11:33:22 AM
Yes please. Zero's Seven sounds great, as those sketches are a joy to behold, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Proudhuff on 20 November, 2009, 08:57:02 PM
yeah! the Meg couple do with some of that old Jock magic!
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 20 November, 2009, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 17 November, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
Great bear.

Dear oh dear.

Anyway, Zero's 7 - get in!  just what the megazine needs.
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: jock on 28 November, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
found a bunch more of layouts today... incl. some from Lenny Zero DEAD ZERO. cover sketches and some pages ---

Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Trout on 28 November, 2009, 04:00:24 PM
Cool! But stop teasing us, Jock. When will you come back to 2000AD?

You don't need all those Yankee dollars!  ;)

- Trout
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Kerrin on 28 November, 2009, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 20 November, 2009, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 17 November, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
Great bear.

Dear oh dear.

What?     Heh, completely unintentional unfortunately.

Cheers for posting all these sketches Jock, they're a real treat.

So when's Zero's 7 getting commissioned then Greenbonce? And can we have some more Simping Detective as well please.
Title: Re: Rampots
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 November, 2009, 08:16:11 PM
And some Junker too!

WHAT?

Why are you all looking at me like that?