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2000 AD => News => Topic started by: Bolt-01 on 20 December, 2017, 09:37:52 am

Title: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 20 December, 2017, 09:37:52 am
As seen on Down The Tubes (http://downthetubes.net/?p=41998), Durham Red is back from Alec Worley & Ben Willsher.

And it looks to me like this is covering the time period when the Doghouse is shut- so further removing the Strontium Dogs stories from current canon. It may also be an indicator as to whether Red will be back in the main S/D strip- unlikely...

Set to start in prog 2073.

Broken link fixed – IP
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 20 December, 2017, 10:02:33 am
Superb looking stuff. Roll on 2018.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Alec Worley on 20 December, 2017, 10:15:20 am
Here’s the low-down: http://www.alecworley.com/blog/durham-red-revamped
We’ve got two classic runs to follow here, so me, Ben and Tharg have dug deep.
And we do it because WE LOVE YOU!!
Have a Zarjaz Christmas, sneckers!
XXXXX
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 20 December, 2017, 11:10:40 am
Cheers Alec- really looking forward to seeing what Ben has come up with as a 'look' for Red...
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Proudhuff on 20 December, 2017, 11:14:11 am
Glad to see there will be a new Cozzie, that Red Sonja thing was an embarrassment.  :-X
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 December, 2017, 11:26:38 am
It'll be interesting to see what they've come up with. Something fitting for the job, hopefully (given that Red is a bounty hunter, not a stripper), rather than someone's fantasy.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Alec Worley on 20 December, 2017, 11:43:54 am
Cheers, guys.
REALLY hope you dig this project. We’ve bent over backwards to work it into Stronti-nuity, preserving and honouring everything that’s gone before (and after), while making it our own and keeping the whole thing accessible to new readers (boys AND girls).
Design-wise, me and Ben spent aaaaaages going back and forth, covering everything from body type, hairdo, face, clothes, weapons – even underwear! (Got a lot of female input on that one. :P)
Here’s the Pinterest board on which I splurged all my initial thoughts: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/plotmechanic/durham-red/
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Steve Green on 20 December, 2017, 12:10:19 pm
Looking forward to it Alec!

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 20 December, 2017, 12:37:11 pm
Great pin-board- some really interesting choices of image.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Alec Worley on 20 December, 2017, 12:41:04 pm
They'll all just brain-farts, mind. Don't panic if you see anything in there that makes you go 'WTF are you thinking, Worley?'  :lol:
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Steve Green on 20 December, 2017, 01:56:02 pm
I'm trusting the Worlsher combine.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 20 December, 2017, 02:26:59 pm
They'll all just brain-farts, mind. Don't panic if you see anything in there that makes you go 'WTF are you thinking, Worley?'  :lol:

Alec- I'd be surprised if there was something that 'didn't' make me think that.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Rogue Judge on 27 December, 2017, 02:29:41 am
Stronti-nuity

My new favorite word!

Really looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: sheridan on 27 December, 2017, 01:10:00 pm
Cheers, guys.
REALLY hope you dig this project. We’ve bent over backwards to work it into Stronti-nuity, preserving and honouring everything that’s gone before (and after), while making it our own and keeping the whole thing accessible to new readers (boys AND girls).
Design-wise, me and Ben spent aaaaaages going back and forth, covering everything from body type, hairdo, face, clothes, weapons – even underwear! (Got a lot of female input on that one. :P )
Here’s the Pinterest board on which I splurged all my initial thoughts: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/plotmechanic/durham-red/ (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/plotmechanic/durham-red/)


Thanks for the forum input, and shall look forward to it (always good to see behind the scenes with continuity geeks).
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: sheridan on 27 December, 2017, 01:11:32 pm
Here’s the Pinterest board on which I splurged all my initial thoughts: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/plotmechanic/durham-red/ (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/plotmechanic/durham-red/)

Thanks for the forum input, and shall look forward to it (always good to see behind the scenes with continuity geeks).

...and, I've got to get me one of those hair clips!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: AlexF on 04 January, 2018, 03:20:40 pm
Ben Willsher doing a sci-fi action romp with bounty hunters is going to be AMAZING!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Alec Worley on 08 January, 2018, 11:50:40 am
Done a quick blog about the redesign, if you're into that sort of thing...
http://www.alecworley.com/blog/durham-red-preview-pic-released (http://www.alecworley.com/blog/durham-red-preview-pic-released)
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: TordelBack on 08 January, 2018, 11:59:22 am
Done a quick blog about the redesign, if you're into that sort of thing...
http://www.alecworley.com/blog/durham-red-preview-pic-released (http://www.alecworley.com/blog/durham-red-preview-pic-released)

Trinny & Susannah?  Let no-one have any doubt about the great pains taken in this redesign.  Not since Mick Austin studied a copy of Mayfair he presumably found in a hedge has research be this in-depth!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 11 January, 2018, 09:52:59 am
Its gonna be great!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: BPP on 11 January, 2018, 12:35:51 pm
Not too sure Durham Red in a sports bra is really in line with the batgirl / vampirella re-jigs.

The Vampirella re-design is particularly bad - sportswear meets steampunk. Baffling for the character. Batgirl just looks like a prebucesent girl cosplay and as I assume that’s the readership so that’s fine. It is just a superhero outfit on a less sexualised frame.

‘Half way house’ outfits like that vampirella one make little sense - if you’re grounding the character and making the outfit more ‘practical’ then she’s not going to wear cycling shorts, she’s going to wear practical light but protective trousers. It’s seems more an exercise in ‘showing skin but not showing SKIN’.

The whole ‘urban warrior but female’ shorts / big boots / pads / wrist gloves / practical but some how revealing around the chest / thigh outfit is a bit played out in comics and video games. Embrace the unreality of the whole idea and make something unique. That’s what 2000AD always did... c’ummon he’s wearing a fupping eagle on his shoulder!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 January, 2018, 02:06:02 pm
Unreality is fine, but I would hope we're a bit beyond 'something for the dads' now in 2000 AD. Durham Red was always a bit Smurfette anyway, but her outfit was a bit… And then the future one was even worse. I do nonetheless agree regarding the Vampirella one, though. The original's not suitable, but the new one's not good.

As for Durham Red, I'm hopeful – given the talent doing it – that we'll see something good. And at least there's the line: "Rest assured, Durham won’t be spending the entire series in her underwear!" (You'd really hope not, especially given Tharg's recent defensive answer to a letter about female characters’ attire in the Christmas issue.)
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Alec Worley on 16 April, 2018, 11:54:54 am
Wotcha!
Full details on the current status of the new Durham Red, right here...
http://www.alecworley.com/blog/lee-carter-joins-durham-red (http://www.alecworley.com/blog/lee-carter-joins-durham-red)
Please feel free to share and spread the word. Lee is a major addition to the team!
Apologies for this hurried post; deadlines an’ that.
Cheers
Alec
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 April, 2018, 12:11:22 pm
Ouch. Poor Ben. Still, if you need a super sub, I can't think of anyone better than Lee.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 16 April, 2018, 12:41:20 pm
Thanks for the the update Alec, and hope Ben continues to get better.
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: broodblik on 16 April, 2018, 01:32:02 pm
Thank You Alec. Wish Ben a quick recovery
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Alec Worley on 16 April, 2018, 02:06:29 pm
Cheers, guys. Will pass that on. Ben is absolutely fine and dandy now! His recovery time scuppered the schedule is all. Cheers again. Alec
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Steve Green on 16 April, 2018, 02:09:39 pm
Good to hear it Alec, thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: dweezil2 on 16 April, 2018, 03:06:38 pm
All the best to Ben, hope he's match fit soon and thanks for the update, Alec!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: sheridan on 19 April, 2018, 03:53:57 pm
Not too sure Durham Red in a sports bra is really in line with the batgirl / vampirella re-jigs.

The Vampirella re-design is particularly bad - sportswear meets steampunk. Baffling for the character. Batgirl just looks like a prebucesent girl cosplay and as I assume that’s the readership so that’s fine. It is just a superhero outfit on a less sexualised frame.

Really?  Looks like a normal person in their twenties to me - don't know where you live but I see plenty of young adults wearing similar clothing all the time (except for the cape and holsters, obviously!)
Title: Re: Durham Red- Born Bad!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 19 April, 2018, 04:05:30 pm
Not too sure Durham Red in a sports bra is really in line with the batgirl / vampirella re-jigs.

"Rest assured, Durham won’t be spending the entire series in her underwear!"

(I would have assumed that the towel around her shoulders might also clue folk in to the fact that this isn't the actual costume.)