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Title: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 17 July, 2016, 07:57:51 PM
Cover: Excellent work from Mr Brown as always!

Dredd:  Nice to see McCarthy back on Dredd, and an enjoyable twist on 'Strangers on a Train' from Wagner!

Ace Trucking co. : Used to love this series when I wor a lad, so was pleasantly surprised to see it in there.  Enjoyable, if a bit short on substance.

Sinister Dexter:  Great art from Foster, very cinematic, and an amusing enough tale from our favorite gun sharks.

Poster:  Absolutely jaw dropping-ly gorgeous art from Chris Weston. 

Robo Hunter:  Loved RH back in the day, but when he retired in the late 80's, they should have left him retired.  They never seem to have got it right since.  Not an awful tale by any description, but not great.

Rogue Trooper:  Again, like all the other strips in the special, very much an enjoyable spread of art.  Hoping that this may be some kind of flashback sequence to the RT of old that we get a bit more of, as that'd be very nice!

Overall, a great special!
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Timothy on 20 July, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Any idea why this is marked as not available on the iPad app?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 20 July, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 20 July, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Any idea why this is marked as not available on the iPad app?
Mine the same.
I want to the inline store and bought the digital copy there.
Came back and restarted the iPad app and then it showed up and downloaded.
Don't know if that helps.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 20 July, 2016, 12:32:56 PM
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 20 July, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Any idea why this is marked as not available on the iPad app?

Oops! We're looking into this, hope to have this sorted out soon. Will post here when resolved.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Fungus on 20 July, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Priced £3.99, scans as £3.50 at WH Smith self-service thingy. The Galaxy's Greatest Barcode.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Anzati on 20 July, 2016, 03:35:22 PM
*Quickly checks his receipt* So it does; £3.50 for me too (also just noticed that only one copy of the Prog scanned too, so I appear to have gotten one for free... bonus I guess).
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 July, 2016, 03:45:05 PM
Quote from: Anzati on 20 July, 2016, 03:35:22 PM
*Quickly checks his receipt* So it does; £3.50 for me too (also just noticed that only one copy of the Prog scanned too, so I appear to have gotten one for free... bonus I guess).

I don't think the bar code holds the price data. I think it just feeds the SKU to the till system which looks it up in a database that provides the price. Hopefully, it's a data entry error by WHS, who will have to swallow the 49p loss.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 20 July, 2016, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 20 July, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 20 July, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Any idea why this is marked as not available on the iPad app?
Mine the same.
I want to the inline store and bought the digital copy there.
Came back and restarted the iPad app and then it showed up and downloaded.
Don't know if that helps.

We're still looking into the problem with the availability of the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 in iOS, but haven't been able to find the problem yet.

In the meantime, the above workaround will work i.e. go to one of our online stores, login using you usual 2000 AD / Rebellion email address and password, then buy the digital version of the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016:

https://account.rebellion.co.uk/products/product/SPE1601D (recommended link to use)
or
http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/digitalgn_2000_ad_summer_special_2016

Once purchased, if you're logged into the iOS app, your entitlements should sync after a little while (restarting the app should force this to happen) and then the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 should be available to download in the iOS app.

Will post again if/when we manage to sort out the underlying problem
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Fungus on 20 July, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 July, 2016, 03:45:05 PM
Quote from: Anzati on 20 July, 2016, 03:35:22 PM
*Quickly checks his receipt* So it does; £3.50 for me too (also just noticed that only one copy of the Prog scanned too, so I appear to have gotten one for free... bonus I guess).

I don't think the bar code holds the price data. I think it just feeds the SKU to the till system which looks it up in a database that provides the price. Hopefully, it's a data entry error by WHS, who will have to swallow the 49p loss.

FWIW I've had to draw their attention to being overcharged on other items. It cuts both ways. Be vigilant! (What do you mean you don't always check your receipt...?)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 21 July, 2016, 11:13:30 AM
A splendid summer treat indeed.
But no poster in the digital version?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Darren Stephens on 21 July, 2016, 12:16:14 PM
Enjoyed all the strips in this special. My highlights where Dredd, of course, but also brilliant to see Nigel Dobyn back in the 2000AD fold. A great artist and very well suited to drawing Ace and Co.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 July, 2016, 12:37:37 PM
Well that was chock-full of old-skool thrills, which is just what you want in a summer special - and I got the inadvertent WH Smith discount as well!

Great to see McCarthy on Dredd and it was a good meant'n'potatoes mega-city crime yarn, which we get all too few of these days.

Robohunter, Rogue Trooper and Ace Trucking - all tickled my nostalgia muscle in the appropriate manner and captured the feel of the originals perfectly, unlike any of the various attempted reboots of these characters over the years. Sinister Dexter also harked back to the amusing one-off format of the past after the overly long Moses/Generica saga - hope these two will be back in the prog regularly for some good ol' fashioned Downlode wacking!

And then all this is topped off with a lovely double-page chunk of Chris Weston loveliness in the middle.

A very satisfying read overall, no duffers in the mix and it took me back to Summer holidays of my childhood *sigh*
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 21 July, 2016, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 21 July, 2016, 11:13:30 AM
A splendid summer treat indeed.
But no poster in the digital version?

We're looking into what we might be able to do here, as a few people have asked about this, we may be able to either add it onto the end of the main comic PDF/CBZ, or else offer it as a separate download (from the Rebellion Account Portal website: https://account.rebellion.co.uk/2000ad/download ) for those who've purchased the digital version, but we need to look into how feasible this is going to be.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 21 July, 2016, 04:20:27 PM
Quote from: 2000ADWebDroid on 20 July, 2016, 12:32:56 PM
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 20 July, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Any idea why this is marked as not available on the iPad app?

Oops! We're looking into this, hope to have this sorted out soon. Will post here when resolved.

Still not resolved I'm afraid, but we're re-submitting the IAP for this to Apple to see if that makes a difference, just waiting now for Apple to approve it. In the meantime, the workaround mentioned earlier in this thread is still an option for those who can't wait.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: ZenArcade on 21 July, 2016, 07:55:23 PM
I have been really busy, but made a point of buying The Prog, the Meg and the Sci Fi special all at once in the shop.   It's not often you get such an alignment of Thrill infused joy.  Now to get the time to read the damn things. Z
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 July, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
Half and half for me. Good fun cover presaging a wonderful helping of McCarthy Dredd. As mentioned elsewhere, exactly the sort of inconsequential but entertaining strip the world needs more of.

A similar reminder of the way thrills used to be as Mr Abnett knocks out a breezy Sin/Dex with a stellar new take on the lads from Foster.

Guy Adams' Rogue Trooper one offs have been consistently better than any of his own stories. This was a suitably nasty outing with another great art job.

The comedy strips didn't fare so well. I've never been a Robo Hunter and, other than one or two decent lines this did nothing for me.

Conversely, while I'm normally happy to see a different artist's take on an existing strip, I'm too much of a Belardinelli groupie to see Ace Trucking as anything but a pale shadow of the master. On top of the that, despite a workable central idea, the writer seems to have missed the crucial point that Ace, like Arfur Daly, should absolutely never come out on top!

No poster for us digital scum.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 22 July, 2016, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: 2000ADWebDroid on 20 July, 2016, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 20 July, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 20 July, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Any idea why this is marked as not available on the iPad app?
Mine the same.
I want to the inline store and bought the digital copy there.
Came back and restarted the iPad app and then it showed up and downloaded.
Don't know if that helps.

Okay, we've managed to sort out the IAP for the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 with Apple and this is now showing as available to purchase via the iOS versions of the 2000 AD app, apologies for the problems with this.

We're still looking into the problem with the availability of the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 in iOS, but haven't been able to find the problem yet.

In the meantime, the above workaround will work i.e. go to one of our online stores, login using you usual 2000 AD / Rebellion email address and password, then buy the digital version of the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016:

https://account.rebellion.co.uk/products/product/SPE1601D (recommended link to use)
or
http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/digitalgn_2000_ad_summer_special_2016

Once purchased, if you're logged into the iOS app, your entitlements should sync after a little while (restarting the app should force this to happen) and then the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 should be available to download in the iOS app.

Will post again if/when we manage to sort out the underlying problem

The availability problem in the iOS version of the 2000 AD app is now sorted out, so you should now be able to purchase the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 through the app now, apologies this wasn't available to buy via the iOS app until now.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 22 July, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: 2000ADWebDroid on 21 July, 2016, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 21 July, 2016, 11:13:30 AM
A splendid summer treat indeed.
But no poster in the digital version?

We're looking into what we might be able to do here, as a few people have asked about this, we may be able to either add it onto the end of the main comic PDF/CBZ, or else offer it as a separate download (from the Rebellion Account Portal website: https://account.rebellion.co.uk/2000ad/download ) for those who've purchased the digital version, but we need to look into how feasible this is going to be.

We've now added the poster towards the end of the digital version of the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 - if you've already downloaded the Summer Special, please delete the original version, then re-download the summer special. If you get a download error, please fully close the app, then restart it, then try again .
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 23 July, 2016, 11:12:47 AM
Got this, the real version not some digital thingy  ;), this morning from the 2000 AD shop.
Wonderful, just wonderful.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 23 July, 2016, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: 2000ADWebDroid on 22 July, 2016, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: 2000ADWebDroid on 21 July, 2016, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 21 July, 2016, 11:13:30 AM
A splendid summer treat indeed.
But no poster in the digital version?

We're looking into what we might be able to do here, as a few people have asked about this, we may be able to either add it onto the end of the main comic PDF/CBZ, or else offer it as a separate download (from the Rebellion Account Portal website: https://account.rebellion.co.uk/2000ad/download ) for those who've purchased the digital version, but we need to look into how feasible this is going to be.

We've now added the poster towards the end of the digital version of the 2000 AD Summer Special 2016 - if you've already downloaded the Summer Special, please delete the original version, then re-download the summer special. If you get a download error, please fully close the app, then restart it, then try again .

First of all, thanks to the 2000AD webdroid for the digital poster fix.
And as anyone who follows the podcast twitter feed @MCBCpodcast (https://twitter.com/MCBCpodcast) will have seen this morning I acquired the hard copy as well. Thrill power overload!
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 July, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
No Prog this weekend. "AHA!" I thought. "This is Tharg wanting me to go into town and get the Summer Special!" So off I trudged. Nothing in McColl's. Nada in WHSmith. Bah.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 23 July, 2016, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 July, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
No Prog this weekend. "AHA!" I thought. "This is Tharg wanting me to go into town and get the Summer Special!" So off I trudged. Nothing in McColl's. Nada in WHSmith. Bah.

I can never find the special in any newsagents around where I live, even ones that carry the prog and the meg so I always order it from the 2000 AD shop. I think that's how Tharg wants it and who am I to argue?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Woolly on 23 July, 2016, 06:01:23 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 July, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
No Prog this weekend. "AHA!" I thought. "This is Tharg wanting me to go into town and get the Summer Special!" So off I trudged. Nothing in McColl's. Nada in WHSmith. Bah.

Got mine from Smiths to get the 49p discount (yoink!). Strangely, it wasnt stocked next to the Prog or Meg, but with the Marvel stuff. Might be worth having another look?

Thought it was great from cover to cover, if not outstanding. Really enjoying the slow return of Ace, Rogue and Robo-Hunter. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: 2000ADWebDroid on 25 July, 2016, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: Woolly on 23 July, 2016, 06:01:23 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 23 July, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
No Prog this weekend. "AHA!" I thought. "This is Tharg wanting me to go into town and get the Summer Special!" So off I trudged. Nothing in McColl's. Nada in WHSmith. Bah.

Got mine from Smiths to get the 49p discount (yoink!). Strangely, it wasnt stocked next to the Prog or Meg, but with the Marvel stuff. Might be worth having another look?

I'm afraid to say that I've heard that the pricing for WH Smith has now been corrected, consider yourself lucky if you managed to snag a bargain before then!
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: AlexF on 25 July, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
That poster from Chris Weston was a) magnificent and b) quite different from what I think of as his usual style. Anyone seen any strip work from him in a similar vein? Kinda Staples-ish, I thought.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: BPP on 30 July, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
Totally ace summer prog.

You can't call it a 'special' tho as there was no quiz or 'top ten bad guys stomped by Judge Dredd' lists!

Hope Tharg can get McCarthy back for more Dredd soon.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 July, 2016, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: 2000ADWebDroid on 25 July, 2016, 02:43:59 PMI'm afraid to say that I've heard that the pricing for WH Smith has now been corrected, consider yourself lucky if you managed to snag a bargain before then!
I'd consider myself lucky if I could find the bloody thing. Absent locally. Gnash. Wail. Etc.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Tjm86 on 30 July, 2016, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: BPP on 30 July, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
Totally ace summer prog.

You can't call it a 'special' tho as there was no quiz or 'top ten bad guys stomped by Judge Dredd' lists!

Hope Tharg can get McCarthy back for more Dredd soon.

Aye, missing a film review as well and reprints from obscure 60's and 70's strips.  (or am I confusing this with annuals?)  Still thoroughly enjoyable though.

BTW - FP Cardiff had copies earlier in the week for those still looking.  Not to mention the tried and tested (and makes up for Smiths selling 'em cheap) direct from t' shop.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: SpongeJosh on 02 August, 2016, 12:27:37 PM
The first summer special I've ever read.

Brilliant stuff, maximum enjoyment.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: TordelBack on 03 August, 2016, 09:27:23 PM
Wow, all thriller, no filler!  Even the poster (I am no longer 12, alas) was ace, and on lovely stock too: heading for my sheffice wall.

The Dredd was sharp little idea just beautifully drawn by McCarthy. Pure quality throughout.

Sinister Dexter was a nice little in-continuity tale giving another taste of the new status quo, but the words were dwarfee by the art: Tom Foster delivers an even more mature take on the art that made Storm Warning such a joy. One to watch, this fellow.

Rogue Trooper was a rather brutal take on the character from Adams (does every protagonist practice torture these days?. Certainly all of Adams's characters do!), with superbly moody art from Buxton. I felt the Nort seaside installation was a bit vulnerable if they hadn't considered the risk of a tactical tsunami of poison, but then these are the lads with cloth gasmasks after all.

Ace Trucking Co is always a hard sell, when its soul was 100% Massimo, but aside from the usual oddness around Ace's eyes, this was a fun entry. Perhaps the joke went on a bit long, and as Cosh points out Ace incorrectly got the last laugh, but it was enjoyable enough for me to want to read more from this team.

Robohunter, one of Tharg's most grievously abused strips in its many posthumous incarnations, was the big surprise for me: a really good version, packed with the kind of cute childish gags that made the original work. Hoagy in Chewie's bandolier being a personal highlight. Still find Stogie bizarre now I'm surrounded by non-ambulatory versions.

I don't know what I was expecting when I heard a special was being forged from the leavings of the FCB prog, and only 64 pages, but what I got was a terrific read cover to cover. Well done all!
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Trout on 04 August, 2016, 06:01:45 AM
I enjoyed all the things which, given the history of some of the strips involved, is a major compliment.

Nice one, robotic creators and alien boss.

- Trout
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: TordelBack on 07 August, 2016, 10:45:04 AM
How the hootin' heck did I miss that Ace Trucking was drawn by the much-missed Nigel Dobbyn? Quite a transformation of inking style but still looking good! Any chance of a much substantial return to the mighty organ?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 August, 2016, 08:42:13 PM
I've still not found this in the wild. Crazy.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: DrJomster on 21 August, 2016, 11:54:38 PM
Long may the Summer Special continue to grace our summers with thrill power! A fine tradition and no mistaking! Dredd and Sin Dex were my favourites, but good work by all. Many thanks to all the droids concerned!

Do we get a halloween special too this year? Sign me up if so.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Special 2016: Happy Holidays Creep!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 25 August, 2016, 07:36:30 PM
Well my only beef is it was pretty slim picking for the entry price. The thing is once your through the door regardless of the fee your in a happy place. What a fun collection of done in one stories this is. Bottom to top

Robo-Hunter nowt wrong with this, playful Star Wars based fun

Rogue Trooper beautifully rendered if little inconsequencial grim tale

Sinister Dexter its a sign of the quality that a neat, well crafted S&D one parter feeling like it could come from anytime in the strips history only gets 3rd place. This was great.

Dredd Too masters and a great little Future Shockesque Dredd tale

ACE Trucking absolutely loved this. I've always cried out for Mr Dobbyn to get back in the Prog and this justifies these cries entirely. A really neat fun well crafted story with a beautifully sharp edge. Fantastic stuff.

The poster is quite supreme as well Chris Weston managing to represent the recent weight on Joe's shoulders with subtle brilliant.

So yeah a little pricey but when the comics is this good I got over it very quickly. Magnificent.