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"TBH I'm not usre how well Brit Cit works with any of the Strontium Dog back story. "

...or what about Sam Slade's Brit Cit? He didn't live in Mega City One either.

It's just a big mess really.

***"Just as if you wish hard enough, you can make sense of ABC continuity and Dredd continuity. And if you don't want to, you don't have to - hurrah!"***



Last words then: just like I've wiped batman and aliens from Dredd continuity, inter-dimensional travel or no.

...also how would we square Pat Mill's current ABC Warrior's continuity post Torquemada. When does the Shadow Warriors story take place?

+++One of the many great things about Origins is that it deals with what's important to Dredd, but still leaves room for the Second Volgan War (Fourth Oil War). It may not be mentioned explictly, but given the more likely date of sometime in the 2040s (see my earlier post) it's easy to slot it in.


Until Pat decided to give different dates at this stage in the game as Origins is being published.  If Pat continues to fudge the dates why bother?
I like the thread in Pat's stuff, the stories don't jar, I'm waitin' for the join up between Slaine and the rest any prog now ; )


Dredd and Strontium Dog aint' too much a stretch but for me but Dredd just doesn't fit in Pat's universe. I don't see the benefit in anymore connections between stories and since they've been pretty few and far between in the past decade anyway, it seems to work better that way.


Something like league of extraordinary gentlemen works because that's the concept but in 2000AD some stories benefit from being a bit more insular. Dredd's world is huge enough without adding more, I don't want to see another Helter Skelter with Halo Jones popping up.

+++There are plenty of other good comics out there. 2000AD offers a world with a largely coherent history With that comes the potential for characters to really develop (like Dredd)



I agree but it doesn't mean they all need to join up.

Where does it stop and can we include Dante and Sinister/Dexter too or just the ones John and Pat write.

++ You either like the ABC Warriors/Volg/Savage link (which is currently there) or you don't (and would like to overlook it).

I don't mind that link, with Nemesis etc., it's not in question, and they're all written by Pat but Dredd I think is better off left separate. The tone of it has always been different from Pat's stuff. Pat's stuff works when put together in some mad way.

The Dredd connection never worked for me and I think Origins has changed it or left it vague enough to ignore it.

+++I didn't think there was much that was particularly contradictory until the latest story (but that contradicts Ro-busters anyway).

If the writers aren't paying attention to continuity between "different" stories, why should the fans?

+++Best for who, and why?

If actually paid attention to, having to keep tabs on the continuity of stories written by others, such as Mills, could limit the possibility for future stories. Knowing that certain events must happen, like oil war's, termight etc. Mill's or Wagner may write something in future stories that basically contradicts what you have written. Stretching the plausibility of such connetctions even more.

+++The ABC/Dredd connection is not really troublesome, it just requires some research and a bit of work.

...and some changing of dates and facts.


+++I'd be very wary of removing or altering continuity on essentially moods and whims, because then you end up with comic books like the Americans.

If you are not really paying much attention to it why be bothered trying to connect at all? In regards to American comics I believe the opposite is true. The trouble with American comics has always been the need to try and shoe horn every single character and event into the same universe, you end up with all that CRISIS crap.

Keeping the tooth characters more or less separate makes sense. The connections in the older stories are somewhat tenuous since Origins basically ignores the US war with the Volgans.

+++If anyone wants to call me out on this, feel free, but I'd appreciate it if you could do it over on the alt.comics.2000ad newsgroup

I think that newsgroup has pretty much bitten the dust in the past few days, it's suffered a massive porn spam-blast that is still going on making posting pointless.


2000AD review would be a better choice.

+++As for its bearing no relation to Dredd, the story is set in the Cursed Earth and contains a retroactive flashback that features a Dredd-verse character and situation. I just hope you weren't TOO unduly concerned.


I was talking about the film bearing no relation to Dredd, not the story which is half and half.

Since trying to make the continuity fit with all the different stories is troublesome and doesn't really make much sense, it's best that Dredd has it's own timeline rather than shared.

...but that story was written to tie into the Dredd film which bears no relation to Dredd at all, so it can be well ignored as far as I'm concerned.

We need larger, poster sized versions of these centre-spreads.

>Cover: Whatâ??s not too like about a John Burns cover with the biggest breasts since Harrisonâ??s DeMarco cover

...and you've posted them so small.

Top notch art from Rufus with bonus "original" Dredd classic logo!

ABC Warriors is brilliant too. Is Zippo the new 7th ABC replacement for Mek-Quake?

How long is "a couple of weeks" till the next Origins installment, 2 weeks?

It could be Booth, Solomon, both or maybe Fargo himself who wants the billion creds for his favourite mutant charity.

What the fuck was the deal with Fargo's alleged amnesiac sister -Arden Polders- who was murdered after the apocalyose war, is she tied in with all this?

I would advise anyone to give the director's cut of Daredevil a watch. It's one of the few times in history when a director's cut is actually a completely different film and an infinitely better film than the theatrical version which is a bastardisation of one of the best comic book adaptations. Let me explain:

Firstly it's the version that actually contains the plot, characters and the story. Secondly the crap love scenes, which were shot afterwards for the theatrical version are not in the director's cut and thirdly, the action scenes, and of course Bullseye, along with all the other villains, doesn't die. Only the girl dies.

The kingpin's demise and the actual reason for it is explained better too.

The crap playground scene is still there but you soon forget it. I was shocked when I first saw the directo'rs cut. When I saw DD in the cinema I thought half the film was missing and that it was awful. I had heard so many peopIe beforehand say that it was going to be one of the best comic book films ever, judging by the script they'd read. I later found out it was true and why it conflicted with what I had first seen.

The original cut of the film was the director's final cut, which is the good one. The studios didn't have confidence in it because it was too long, had too much story was too dark and had and no love scenes. So they demanded the story be cut back and more love scenes included. So they took out the guts and added stuffing.

If the director's cut had been released originally I think it would have been a success, unfortunately it wasn't.