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Based on the thread on the Dune movie, where there where people actually saying they liked it- what movies and/or TV series  do you love that conventional 'wisdom' say are male bovine excrement?  

me i like friends, and even Will and Grace sometimes, though with latter there are limits.

Joey - it gets funnier as it goes on.  Honest.
The Rock - Sean Connery and Nic Cage with Michael Bay?  Unmissable.
Scorpion King - The Rock, unmissable.

Far too many to name really.

oh and one of Hulk Hogan's films, Suburban Commando; where he plays an alien warrior type person, living with a family.

The Wolves Of Willoughby Chase ... amazing when your a kid, painful now, but i still love it.

i have a soft spot for the american version of the office. i got very home sick one night in canada and this was the closest thing i could find to uk tv on the LAN.

i agree with Joey too, remarkable funny and touching at times. same with Two and a Half Men, can be quite good at times. i#ll watch it if no one is arround to mock me.

sadly i must admit to likeing a (with closed curtains and doors of course)screening of the Jazz singer with neil diamond.

I've Got To Say That i Loved KRULL.... Yes I'm Probably Going To Have The Piss Taken Over It,But I Don't Care

Luke-warm Lava Rock's!!!!!

Jazz singer with neil diamond

My girlfriend's favourite ever movie.

I have loads. Suppose the most embarassing is George of the Jungle. It's brilliant.

There's an old National Lampoon film called Class Reunion that also falls in this category.

Krull? Is that the one with...

- Cinammon? Hmmm... Cinammon Bar!

...??? Bloody hilarious whatever film it was from - (in a totally unfunny way of course)

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I really like Undead,Braindead,all the japanese monster movies - godzilla,rodan etc,Streets of Fire,Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires,The Rocketeer,The Phantom,The Shadow & Eight-legged Freaks.
For tv series you can't beat 70's cheese = Tomorrow People,Dr Who & The Water Margin.
The all-time crappest movie I like is Plan 9 From Outer Space - it really is terrible but strangely compelling.

I don't think it's fair to put Who from the 70's in. I like the 80's Doctors but the 70's was of a higher standard.

I was watching bits of Mallrats the other day and really enjoyed it. I love that film. I'm also inordinatley fond of Mystery Men. That's the film. I don't have a yen for men with no name.

my taste in films makes people think i'm gay...

but girls love it, so :)

I can out-bad-taste the lotta ya - Eastenders, Allo Allo, the Carry On films - all undeniably crap, and also utterly, insanely brilliant.

i have a soft spot for the american version of the office. i got very home sick one night in canada and this was the closest thing i could find to uk tv on the LAN.

Theres nothing crap about it. It's kind of pointless watching the episodes that use the same scripts as UK ones, as they're never going to compare favorably, but once you get to the original material it really comes into it's own.

It's better than the Lord of the Rings, I tell ya!

strangely in canada the two english tv shows they all remember are allo allo and keeping up appearances.

lame, even i'm not that cool.

i am a soap watching student, therefore i win in the bad tv stakes cos i actually get to watch the shit thats on in the day.

I was very glad for CBC when Doctor Who was on. (we get it over the border here in Seattle)

I quite like Hook.

The Doctor Who story with the Kandy Man.I saw it when I was young and it may have been the first Doctor Who I saw.

Comrade C, it's shouldn't be in the bad movie section, but you're right, it's better than Lord of the Rings.

And I pity the Krullites.

The Sylvester McCoy Doctor Whos.

Just got Ghost Light on Ebay after it's recent mention on the board. Incomprehensible, as I was warned, but the Doctor/Ace relationship is strangely touching and the whole thing has a kind of dignity currently missing from yadda yadda yadda...

ADE

DEATH DIMENSION!

A deadly freeze bomb threatens humanity and only Jim Kelly (Enter the dragon) the Kung Fu cop can save us all. Also featuring Harold (Odd Job) Sakarta as the villain and George Lazenby (James Bond) as the police chief!

Along the way there's time for a car chase, a boat chase and a helicopter chase - with dynamite!

2016: AFTER THE FALL OF NEW YORK is also fantastic.

One of my all-time favourite movies is a little-heard-of comedy called Brain Donors, which is basically a Marx Brothers-style movie in a modern setting (well, the 90s). I think I'm the only person on Earth who loves this movie!

Mike C

Oh, and I usually watch Neighbours, if only for Harold Bishop, though I wouldn't say I 'loved' it (or him).

Also, the Doc Savage: Man of Bronze film is aces, totally lame, plus any and all of those 50s/60s dinosaur/cavemen films. Particularly if Raquel Welch was involved.

I too often watch Neighbours in the hope of it being a Harold Bishop-centric episode.

...the Love Boat...

I think I might be approaching one of my periodic times away from Neighbours when the sheer crapness of it overtakes the entertainment value of its crapness.

That happens a lot less often with Richard and Judy...

"So you're telling me that elephants AREN'T born evil?"

Does "Flight Of The Navigator" count as a crap movie? And of course "The Monster Squad"

>"So you're telling me that elephants AREN'T born evil?"

Well I did nearly retire at that sublime point

Columbo.Murder She wrote. Diagnosis murder. Monk. Sherlock Holmes. Cagney and Lacey. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The Frighteners.Old Miss Marples, the film noir stuff.

Excuse me 'Buffy the vampire Slayer'???? Sure, it may not have been quite as good as it once was in the last few series, but i don't think any one would call it crap tv

Definately no way Buffy was crap...and neither is the frighteners.

My crap tv series is Lost-it's a pile a crap,but I just can't stop watching it!

For film-Journey to the Centre of the Earth has an appeal I can't quite put my finger on..

M

Well those two are not trying to be the best thing on tv or film are they?And, Buffy the movie is ,well, I am not informed to say.

I would like to add,Super Troopers and Scooby Doo I to my list.

 neighbours is not bad tv. neighbours is amazing on a stick, also i know what the season highlight is, and  MattXBianco you are going to flipping love it!

i actually feel like my routine gets interupted on the weekend for not having my soaps.

Diagnosis Murder, Sunset Beach, Jack Of All Trades, Buck Rogers, Kamen Rider, Dukes of Hazzard, the A-Team, Knight Rider, Airwolf, The Sweeney, Buffy, Angel, DS9, Hawk the Slayer, The (first and only) Matrix, Prince Of Darkness, Dr Who: Curse of Fenric...

Far too much crap that'll pass muster for me, I fear.

What is muster?

Prince of Darkness is another one that is under-rated. saw it on halloween with my best mate when we were 14 and it was love at first sight.

A very dry poo.

LOL; You are kidding me?


Would just like too add; I have fond memories of Zoltan;Hound of Dracula.

I have finished watching Alone in the Dark. A new crap film , I can convince myself to love.

Prince of Darkness

Prince of Darkness is ace! Ok, so none of the occult, SF and Eric Von Daniken elements actually bond together that well in practice, but what a mix! Also theres something superbly creepy about the dreams ("We are transmitting to you from the year one nine nine nine...")

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... i'm gonna feel like a right twat if i've misquoted that!

Prince of Darkness (like Lifeforce, Hawk the Slayer, and Horror Express) is crap - come on, we're old enough to admit it, and it doesn't stop it from being ace in any way.  Especially the bit with the mirror and the hand.
The flip-side of such movies are po-faced affairs like Sixth Sense, which are deadly serious, not fun at all, and after you've watched them once - why bother with watching them again?

Alone in the Dark is ARSE.

I will watch anything, I quite enjiyed Doom, as it was exactly the film I expected.  But AITD is just poo, not scary, not exciting with shoddy special effects.

A Sound of Thunder is not too bad, but there are some hysterically bad CGI for a big Hollywood movie.

One word (kind of)

BEASTMASTER.

I am also rather surprised that they're about to release a sequel to Underworld, as I thought I was the only person on Earth who didn't think the original sucked.

The Rock is genius - I didn't know conventional wisdom disliked it.

The American Godzilla movie with Matthew Broderick, Jean Reno and, errr, Godzilla. I liked it and thought that one of the great injustices was that Independence Day (which was complete shit apart from one scene) made a fortune whereas Godzilla, which wasn't crap, was a flop of historic proportions.

Buckaroo Banzai, if that's eligible for this thread.

Arnold Schwarzennegar's comedies.

yours shamelessly

Arnold Schwarzennegar's comedies.

Would that include Commando, Raw Deal and Red Heat?

Why not all three were good films and how arnie adapted to Red Sonja is undenyabl;e

Red Sonja is alright, but it's no Conan. It's not even a Conan the Destroyer...

I only saw Raw Deal once and vaguely remember it being pretty bad. Red Heat and Commando are brilliant

But - He's TWINS!

I used to love You've Been Framed... though I used to tape it so I could fast-forward through Beadle's 'hilarious' links.

Oh and I'll watch any 'cop footage' program if it's on... esp if it's an el-cheapo yankie one where they show the same clip about ten times in a row.

"And THAT'S why [pause for dramatic effect as clip of drunken mullet-sporting hillbilly ploughing into oncoming traffic is shown for the fifth time] you shouldn't MESS [repeat clip, but slower this time] with the LAW!" [repeat clip, one frame per second]

In the trailer for Battie Begins we have our veritable Bruce Wayne exchanging dialogue with Alfred on such a topic. Bruces own comment being that it makes and I quote; "Damn fine television."

So whether he is a thrillseeker or not, remains to be seen.

By me.This is why I assumed he may have slept with countless women. This does make me look like someone who sees the preying on women as a thrill though. Which I am, and should point out on realising this that I do not intend on doing it over the internet.

Yeah. That looks like one of those crap moments in a film you cannot help but love.

Land of the Giants. Shitty Genius!!!

I love hi-de-hi....seasons 1-4. Some great performances there, especially Simon Cadell. And even though I moan and my GF for watching Friends, I chuckle away like everyone else. I admit though, that both aren't 'quality' television.

I enjopyed the film Soldier with Kurt Russell which is universally known to be a stinker and thought the Blair witch project was superb. Does that count?

Hard Target. He shoots at a helicopter with a shotgun whilst riding a horse!

The Substitute 2. Tom Berenger kicking inner-city delinquent ass!

Phantasm 2/3. I was laughing at it, and it wasn't forced "ironic" laughter!

On a related tangent, is the first Phantasm some sort of classic, BBC1 had them all (except for 4) on in November, but I only saw 2 and 3. FEAR THE DWARVES.

Big Trouble in Little China
An Innocent man - Tom Selleck movie
and many more...

I was utterly hooked on Santa Barbara the soap ITV used to put on betwen Kilroy and This Morning... just pure awful genius. It was fascinating watching actors who were obviously too good for the show (such as the future Robin Wright-Penn) struggling with the dreadful dialogue.

In movies it's The Patriot. Fabulously quoatable trash.

Hi-De-Hi was great stuff, somewhat dismissed I feel for it's use of silly slapstick, people in daft costumes etc, though that is rather the point: That's what passed for entertainment on the holiday camps. The pathos and character comedy especially around Jeffrey Fairbrother and Gladys Pugh was totally believable stuff. Definitely falls into the 'Dads Army' camp of Jimmy Perry series rather than the 'Are You Being Served' pantomime category.

ADE

"On a related tangent, is the first Phantasm some sort of classic, BBC1 had them all (except for 4) on in November, but I only saw 2 and 3."

The first movie is a really great dodgy seventies horror.  Quite atmospheric.  The second one was the big budget one (believe it or not).  The thrid one was the comedy action one.  The fourth one was made for 650,000 and is actually pretty good for reasons I won't spoil.

Just don't try to make sense out of them!

Great stuff and may still be in the Play.com sale with the cheap boxset which has good extras.

The first series of The Black Adder before Ben Elton gets his hands on it.

Not because it's bad but because it's way more dark, intelligent, satitical, realistic, tragic and funny that the other series.

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The thrid one was the comedy action one.
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Aaah. That explains a lot. (That bit at the start where The Blonde Chick gets her face eaten is pretty grim for a comedy though). But the second one was pretty funny as well, the bit where that tentacle pops out of his head had me in stitches, as did the chainsaw fight, and the least convincing sex scene ever, and that bit in the Tall Man's dimension with that baby thing crawling out of a bin. Are you sure it's supposed to be serious?

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"Are you sure it's supposed to be serious?"

I never said any such thing!

There's some daft comedy with Reggie which is usually entertaining.  And the rest of the movies can be funny as well.

Phantasm has one thing over most crappy horror franchises and that it was all written and directed by one bloke, and everyone involved has a lot of time for the films.

>> On a related tangent, is the first Phantasm some sort of classic, BBC1 had them all (except for 4) on in November . . .

I thought Auntie did the same thing she did last time and showed only 2, 3, and 4.

Daredevil.

Oh yes.

Far too many too mention: Hollyoaks, Mighty boosh, Neighbors, Nathan Barely, Action Force - The Movie, Matrix reloaded, coughtankgirlcough. Can you tell I'm a student?
How about an opposite thread? Things that are supposedly great and critic proof that you just can't stand.
Mine would be: Father Ted, Little Britain, Citizen Kane, David Lynch etc.

"Phantasm has one thing over most crappy horror franchises and that it was all written and directed by one bloke, and everyone involved has a lot of time for the films."

Well I'm sure a lot of people involved in the Third Reich had a lot of time for The Final Solution.

ADE

have to be honest.
i have the full set of Miami Vice. and i love watching it.

Well I'm sure a lot of people involved in the Third Reich had a lot of time for The Final Solution

Ummm. Not particularly tasteful?

I really loved The Final Solution up until Colin "Here's a nice picture of a chin" took over for the last few episodes.

Ade, the Third Reich may have supported it, but to my mind that's just more proof that it wasn't the best way to finish Johnny Alpha off.

Anyway, Phantasm rocks you fool.

Submerged, or as I like to call it "Steven Seagal and Vinnie Jones together at last in C-Movie glory."
Resident Evil: Apocalypse - for easons I can't even fathom.
Ultimate Force - if you don't like this you are either a girl or a poofter!
Wings of the Apache - Top Gun in Helicopters!
Wrestling - "Fat sweaty men in tights, slapping each other." As Jon0101 put it.
Re-Animator 1+2 - don't know if these really count, but they have the great Jeffery Coombs in, so nyah!
The Last Boy Scout - just for the exchange:
"Just once, I want to hear you scream."
"Play some rap music."

I liked that Batman movie with Arnie in it.  And the one before with Robin.....not all time genius, but fun flicks I could watch again (and way better than the second Burton movie)

Phantasm doesn't rock, it's merely okay. Phantasm 2 and 3 however rocks like a pendulum swings.

Yeah, I like Batman & Robin.

There's a certain amount of snobbery I feel in the Batman franchise, in that many people were surprised that Batman was dark and not just comic-book sillyness when Tim Burton started it...then eventually people are offended when a Batman film reverts back to comic-book sillyness. Batman is both these things. In fact I would argue by the time you bring Robin in, it's hardly worth taking the 'serious and dark' approach and may as well just embrace the ridiculousness of it all, something Arnie is very good at. As Mark Kermode said at the time, it's a feast for the eyes and the ears.

Haven't seen it since but I'm sure I remember if you listen closely you can hear trumpet blasts during the punch-ups during the fight scenes, a homage to the Adam West series - which is fine by me!

Personally I never bought Burton's 'dark fairy tale' interpretation of Batman - the first film is just plain boring.

ADE

The comic book sillyness came from the Adam west series, the Shumacker (sp?) films were just a remake of the 60's series.

The Burton Bats flicks were great at the time (the second much better that the first) but have dated quite a bit. 3 & 4 stand up better against time but are just empty, just eyecandy as Kermode said.

Batman Begins, although not perfect was 'back to basics' approach to the character. A new start as it were.

Looking forward to the next one.

But... but... Arnie was SHIT in that.

I actually liked Arnie in that film, and I think that was the first mention of Arkham.

Art, bit off topic here, are you in Seattle, if so how is the whole Superbowl thing going down?

Thinking of sticking a tenner on them to win.

Tim Burton, Harry Potter, theme tune sillines not a crappyness factor then.

I think this Gotham "Chrissmassy Franchise " went off the rails like Penguins railriding Duck.

Whatever happened to Summer Assaults on Gothaim?