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Hey, I think Eduardo Risso is Argentinian?

How about:

Frank Miller on Dredd (he's drawn him before, but never a full story)

John Cassaday on Rogue Trooper

Gene Colan (an oldie but a goodie) on Anderson or Durham Red

Walter Simonson on A.B.C. Warriors

Mike Allred on Robohunter

David Mack on Anderson

Frank Brunner (yes, he's still working) on Anderson

I haven't gotten to progs 77 and 78. I'll get around to them in the next month or so (not much time for reading these days!).

So far in my reading of the Cursed Earth, I have to agree with you Roy. As silly as it is, "Burger Wars" is an excellent early example of the satire that has become an essential component of Dredd stories.

Rex
who is the real Burger King and wields a mighty Whopper!

I've just read "Burger Wars" from progs 71 and 72 for the first time, and I'm at a loss to understand what was the big deal?

I can't for the life of me see how McDonald's or Burger King might be harmed in any way by this fairly implausible science fiction story. Nor do I think there's a "copyright violation" here, but then I'm no expert on British copyright laws. Seems to me the familiar "fair use" privilege should be invoked, permitting the stories to be reprinted.

Has anybody thought of taking these stories to McDonald's and Burger King and seeking their permission for them to be reprinted? It's been 19 years, for Christ's sake. While I would acknowledge there are some intellectual property issues afoot, seems to me a simple disclaimer (and perhaps a sharing of profits) would resolve the matter.

Thoughts?

I can recommend them both as well. Nothing much like 2000AD, but certainly of interest to Tooth readers. There aren't much in the way of sci-fi comics out these days.

Readers who care should know that Humanoids has "bowdlerized" both comics so they are OK for all audiences, but I can't imagine anyone younger than a teenager even reading these comics. What they have done is to cover up instances of bare bosoms, for those sensitive Americans who don't like to see boobs alongside the blood and gore these books contain.

Also Metabarons 1-10 have been collected in two trade paperbacks, and are a great buy as the individual issues seem to be fetching a pretty penny.

It was recently announced that Metabarons will end with issue 17. Don't know if that's because it's the end of the story, or if the book was cancelled.

Incal is being presented "Godfather Saga" style, and the early issues of the series collect stories that lead up to Moebius' portion of the story, which was originally presented first.

As I said, I have really been enjoying these books, and would suggest that curious readers try getting their hands on a copy of Incal #1 or the first Metabarons TPB to see if they are interested in more.

I'm proud to say I know of Carry On films, but they are never shown here. Not sure why.

Say, is there any chance one of you Rebellion insiders who lurk this board (and occasionally post, mk13) might give an "official explanation," or does prog 1208 predate Rebellion's ownership of the magazine? At this point, all anyone seems to know is that prog 1208 had "poor distribution" but no one has addressed my original question of what happened to all those 30,000 or so progs?

I've heard a number of folks on the board say that prog 1208 was poorly distributed and few fans actually have that prog.

Was wondering what was the official (and unofficial) story on that prog? Were they diverted, and now languish in a warehouse somewhere near Birmingham, or were very few printed, and nobody's parting with their dearly beloved copy?

I am among those who do not have prog 1208, and would pay a reasonable sum to take one off somebody's hands. Perhaps Rebellion could reprint that prog, and save me the money?

Rex Gambill
woeful in the USA

Hear, hear!

Heartily agree, except that I'm confident that if he were to continue her story, Alan Moore would quickly relieve her of her riches and ship in a grand example of "easy come, easy go" and start a new wrinkle in her life.

One of the things I liked most about Halo was that she was a fairly inscrutable character. Moore didn't dump on us a lengthy exposition of who she is and what she stands for...instead we are invited along for the ride as she comes to know herself. Even at the end, we are left knowing we have only scratched the surface of this very real character, and for that reason, wanting more.

I had always heard Moore was planning several more books in her story. There are suggestions throughout the three books that she becomes a more important person in the history of the universe than she seems at the end of book 3. Remember in Book 2, I think, when the "future archaeologists" are giving a presentation on what little they know of the early life of Halo Jones? She is characterized, IIRC, as something of a legend. This is the stuff great epic stories are made of, and I wish more than anything that Moore and Gibson might pick up the tale.

I think what you have to take into account is the brevity of the original three Halo Jones stories when compared to the long history of both 2000AD and Judge Dredd.

Even Scojo must agree that Halo Jones is consistently remembered among 2000AD readers as one of the top stories Tharg ever published. This series ended 15 years ago, and continues to cast a long shadow over the comic.

It is one of 2000AD's "touchstone" series, and not least because of Moore's script, which was one of the first to show how skillful he is at developing realistic female characters. And I bet if you ask Ian Gibson what was his best work, he would reply "Halo Jones."

Finally, comparing an epic ongoing series like Judge Dredd to a finite (if incomplete) series like Halo Jones is like so much apples and oranges. To me, Halo Jones is the ultimate example of how diverse 2000AD has been over the years, and represents a diversity and maturity that remains absent from what is still the Galaxy's Greatest.

Rex Gambill

I can see the rankings are centered on recent progs' covers...I'm not sure fans think most of the best 20 covers have been in the past two years. Thus revealing the flaw in my request...unless people rank the back progs as well as the current ones, the rankings will always skew toward the newer progs.

Perhaps progs could be ranked overall, by totalling the scores of the thrills within, and the cover, and coming to an average?

Wake,
I noticed that for each prog that has a ranking, there is a thrill power rating. Is there a ranking of the top 50 or so progs based on thrill power somewhere on the site? Would that be interesting? Makes you wonder, what single prog is the most thrill-powered of all time? If there's not enough votes to tell, perhaps some more readers would be moved to vote, knowing that such a statistic might be forthcoming.

That's the setup I use (Windows ME and IE 6) at home, and every time I try to use this site at home it crashes my computer (not the Blue Screen of Death, just a total system freeze). I assumed it was a Java problem, but the problem persists. Boy, how I wish I could use this site at home!

Rex Gambill

I would too! There's no way I'd be able to piece together a collection of those original comics!

Rex Gambill

Ah, now I see what you're getting at, in the next thread. I didn't realize you could place the blame for some of the crap painted art that's appeared in 2000AD over the years at Bisley's feet.

PVS,
sorry I'm at a loss. WHat do you mean by "Bisley's legacy" etc. Did he do something harmful to 2000AD?

Rex
who is still filling holes in his collection from the time Bisley was a part of the mag