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Spoilers => Prog => Topic started by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 03:36:36 AM

Title: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 03:36:36 AM
Inspired by a mention on another thread, I got thinking about the different logos for 2000 AD:




Original (1)Original & Starlord I (86)Original & Starlord II (100)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/86.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/100.jpg)
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Classic & Starlord (119)Classic & Tornado I (127)Classic & Tornado II (134)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/119.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/127.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/134.jpg)
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Comic Rock [one-off] (167)Classic [golden age] (178)Burning the Classic (554)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/167.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/178.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/554.jpg)
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Stamp (555)Stamp II [rounded] (842)Stamp III [bevelled] (889)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/555.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/842.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/889.jpg)
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Top Banner (950)Top Banner Inset (1033)Font Logo (1200)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/950.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1033.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1200.jpg)
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Stamp IV (1234)Stamp & Banner (p2008)Stamp & Banner II (1900)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1234.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/specials/mediumres/PROG2008.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1900.jpg)
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Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: broodblik on 10 July, 2019, 04:00:43 AM
Thanks for this Funt.

My favorite is still the "Classic [golden age] (178)", maybe I am bias but this is the logo I knew when I started reading AD.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 04:34:37 AM
Whilst Comic Rock (prog 167) is perhaps the most memorable special logo, there have been a few others, of which this is a selection:




Newspaper (78)Yesterday's Hero (88)O'Neill (112)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/78.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/88.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/112.jpg)
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Newspaper II (843)Graffiti (1446)Volgan (1455)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/843.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1446.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1455.jpg)
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Bullet Holes (1678)Shakara (1727)Flashback (1830)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1678.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1727.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1830.jpg)
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Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 July, 2019, 07:18:08 AM
Good work Funt Solo that makes for an interesting view. Always good to see the tweaks and turns the logo has undergone. Have to say the current one does a good job - when its not being entirely over-written!
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 July, 2019, 09:54:34 AM
Yeah, the new one works. There are different contexts these days. Often, only the top of magazines is seen on the shelves. You also nee something that'll work at digital thumbnail size – and so legibility is important (hence the blurred mess of 1200 not being good). I like the Prog 1 logo a lot, even if it's a touch unwieldy. But what we have now for me comes a close second, and is likely the most pragmatic option.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Fungus on 10 July, 2019, 10:19:24 AM
Prog 1's has always seemed very old-fashioned to me, and trying too hard. I put the appeal of that one down to nostalgia (the reason I prefer the classic/chrome of 178.

Do like the fact that Tharg felt the need to burn/comment on logo changes, directly. Funny how this kind of thing matters.

Current one is fine, agreed...
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 July, 2019, 02:09:05 PM
Love the original classics up to 554, don't like any of the others really (the "stamp" one is the worse IMO), until the current version - which is so plain as to be inoffensive, but also rather uninspiring.

hard to separate how much is aesthetic judgement and how much is nostalgia though!  :lol:
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 10 July, 2019, 02:24:08 PM
Seeing the Comic Rock logo, I was thinking of the 112 logo as well.

Wasn't there a heart-shaped logo for Valentine's Day one year?
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 10 July, 2019, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 July, 2019, 02:09:05 PM
Love the original classics up to 554, don't like any of the others really (the "stamp" one is the worse IMO), until the current version - which is so plain as to be inoffensive, but also rather uninspiring.

All three stamp ones, or just one of them?
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 10 July, 2019, 02:24:08 PM
Wasn't there a heart-shaped logo for Valentine's Day one year?

Aye, twice:




Heart (737)Heart (875)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/737.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/875.jpg)
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Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 04:31:47 PM
Oh, I should have said: thanks to Barney (http://www.2000ad.org/) for providing all the thumbnails, and an easy to scan cover repository (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&page=coversindex).
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 July, 2019, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 10 July, 2019, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 July, 2019, 02:09:05 PM
Love the original classics up to 554, don't like any of the others really (the "stamp" one is the worse IMO), until the current version - which is so plain as to be inoffensive, but also rather uninspiring.

All three stamp ones, or just one of them?

theyr'e all very similar - tis the bendiness that doth offend mine eye!

(don't know why I went all Shakespearian there!)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: MumboJimbo on 10 July, 2019, 05:23:38 PM
Great work Funt! I've always loved the prog 119 logo. This was years before I was getting the prog (I started in '83) so it always had an exotic appeal to me. My experience of older stories back then (as reprinted in Best of 2000 AD and annuals etc.) was that the original-logo era stuff wasn't that great, but things really started cooking around the time they started using the arc-shaped logo. That wasn't based on much empirical data though.

As I said in the other thread I like the cut of prog 1200's jib, but accept it seems I am in the minority!
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 July, 2019, 05:43:06 PM
I like the story told with 554 and 555.

I really liked the stamp and the current. I'm a reader from prog 1.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 06:14:52 PM
Tis the season...




Snow (145)Snow (606)Snow (658)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/145.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/606.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/658.jpg)
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Wrapping (772)Xmas Pudding (972)Festive Vector 13 (1023)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/772.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/972.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1023.jpg)
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(Vector 13 got themselves on the logo in prog 1015.)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: radiator on 10 July, 2019, 06:54:06 PM
For me the fan/stamp starting at 555 (and later variations thereof) will always be the definitive 2000ad logo.

I also have a lot of affection for the top banner era - (950-1199) which is the era I started reading - 949 was the very first issue I bought, 950 the second.

Said it before, but the 'classic' logo is a total eyesore (especially the cheesy chrome version) - it just looks amateurish, and isn't even charming in a retro way. There's a reason they've never revived it imo. Totally deserved to get burned :lol:
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Richard on 10 July, 2019, 07:08:27 PM
The chrome logo sort of lives on in the shape of the text "2000" in the stamp logo and the current logo.

I like the 555 one, maybe I'm biased because it's the first one I saw so for me it feels definitive. But Stamp IV and the current logo are close enough that I can get behind them too.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Frank on 10 July, 2019, 07:13:37 PM

CEO of The Story Works and author of The Harrison Ford Story, Alan McKenzie, offers a survey of the 2000ad logo from 1987 to 1994, including why what discussion here has termed the 'classic' logo had to go:

ALIGN-RIGHT  McKENZIE (http://marvelsilverage.blogspot.com/2016/09/messing-with-logo-2000ad-interlude.html)


Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Richard on 10 July, 2019, 07:27:22 PM
Just showed the gallery of logos to my wife, who never reads comics, just out of curiosity. She said the prog 1 logo was best, and the chrome one was cheesy. I was a bit surprised that her view reflects what others have said on this and earlier threads.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 July, 2019, 07:49:54 PM
Thanks for the link, Frank: very interesting to get the word from one of those responsible.

I liked how much creativity started to seep in towards the end of the "classic" logo's tenure:




Slaine's Hair(448)McCarthy's Creativity (473)Tartan Logo (477)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/448.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/473.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/477.jpg)
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Malcolm Ex colors (506)Camo (516)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/506.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/516.jpg)
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In the case of the Malcolm Ex cover it seems to be the first time the logo colors match the cover's color scheme.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: TordelBack on 10 July, 2019, 07:58:26 PM
Prog 1, Prog 555 (Stamp I) and Stamp IV for me - I'm no fan of the rest of the current logo, but I appreciate that it it's very practical and adaptable. I grew up with the chrome logo, but instead of nostalgia I just find it clunky and old fashioned.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: MumboJimbo on 10 July, 2019, 11:34:58 PM
Wow. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels it hard to disassociate the chrome logo from the quality of the prog at that time, especially if it represented your first contact with 2000 AD. Today is the first time
I've ever looked at that logo with modern eyes and realised (very reluctantly) that it may be considered a bit naff.

I think by 1987 its time had come, but aesthetics then were changing at a far greater pace than today and five years before it looked pretty damn good. It will always represent to me the stories inside those hollowed pages more than its own artistic merits. I appreciate though, that will probably not be the case for those who were introduced to the prog before or after that logo was current.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 July, 2019, 12:41:48 AM
well said - it's like your favourite Dr Who or Bond movie, partly objective, partly based on your age and nostalgia. I'm surprised for the love of the stamp and that there are any old squaxx who don't like the original.

I think McKenzie's comment:
QuoteIt has a slight echo of its predecessor, with the multiple curved underlines and the same general rainbow shape, but that terrible chrome effect ... it's hard to imagine that this was created by a designer.
is offensively disrespectful to the professionals involved, especially since he replaced it with one that wa even worse. It may not be popular, but I thought it was great when I was buying the comic, which is kinda the point.

Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: radiator on 11 July, 2019, 03:42:01 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 11 July, 2019, 12:41:48 AM
well said - it's like your favourite Dr Who or Bond movie, partly objective, partly based on your age and nostalgia. I'm surprised for the love of the stamp and that there are any old squaxx who don't like the original.

I think McKenzie's comment:
QuoteIt has a slight echo of its predecessor, with the multiple curved underlines and the same general rainbow shape, but that terrible chrome effect ... it's hard to imagine that this was created by a designer.
is offensively disrespectful to the professionals involved, especially since he replaced it with one that wa even worse. It may not be popular, but I thought it was great when I was buying the comic, which is kinda the point.

Each to their own etc, however I tend to agree with McKenzie there. The chrome version always looked a little quaint, a little naive somehow. And I say that as someone that usually digs cheesy 80s chrome type fonts.

To my eyes the fan version that replaced it is far stronger - it's much more solid, sharper and more distinctive, and much more like a professional company logo. Still quite 80s looking, but in a pleasing way.

I would however argue that the chrome logo is quite popular, especially around these parts. Me hating it is generally quite an unpopular opinion (as are my thoughts about Dredd's lawgiver pistol - ie that it looked silly and weedy* until the Mk 2 redesign around the turn of the millenium).

*I will concede that a couple of artists - namely Cam Kennedy and Mick McMahon - drew it to look cool, though.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: broodblik on 11 July, 2019, 03:53:39 AM
As Dandontdare said most things you like is based upon the time that you who growing up. I really like the "chrome" logo whereas the ones that followed is to my taste. It is like the current Dredd logo I got used to it but I still prefer the classic one used for many, many moons.

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8d/e8/e0/8de8e094966d571fbf26cdc275a5f925.jpg)

But still I cannot understand the "hate" for the logo that will rule all logos  :'( :( :o
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: radiator on 11 July, 2019, 04:18:07 AM
I'm with you on the classic Dredd font at least - it's still the most definitive and iconic one for me, and it's neat that it made it into the 2012 movie. Dredd's side profile in the 'J' of judge - which I only realised was there when someone on this board pointed it out to me - seems a little fussy and extraneous, but it's so subtle that it doesn't ruin the logo as a whole.

I can understand why people have a huge affection for the old logo, but take off the rose tinted spectacles for a second, place it alongside the contemporary DC, Marvel, Heavy Metal* etc logos and you'd be hard-pressed to argue that it doesn't look a little chintzy in comparison, even at the time.

*now that is an awesome cheesy eighties chrome logo.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: norton canes on 11 July, 2019, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: Frank on 10 July, 2019, 07:13:37 PM

CEO of The Story Works and author of The Harrison Ford Story, Alan McKenzie, offers a survey of the 2000ad logo from 1987 to 1994, including why what discussion here has termed the 'classic' logo had to go:

ALIGN-RIGHT  McKENZIE (http://marvelsilverage.blogspot.com/2016/09/messing-with-logo-2000ad-interlude.html)

"I was paid to interfere with the work of others" - an excellent summation of the role of a sub-ed.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 July, 2019, 09:39:50 AM
I dunno. The chrome logo seems perfectly in keeping with design at that time. Arguably, perhaps, that's why 2000 AD should have done something different; but it certainly aligned with then-contemporary design trends.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: norton canes on 11 July, 2019, 10:21:40 AM
Ah c'mon, the original logo's a classic piece of design - bold, brash and deftly rendered. Great that it's still being used as the 'heritage' logo, in the same way that Adidas still use the trefoil for retro products and the three stripes for up-to-date stuff.

Afraid I've never been a fan of the chrome or the stamp, for the simple reason that I hate the way the tail of the '2' extends under the zeroes. Nothing, however, is as bad as those 1990's/early 2000's nondescript 'top banner' monstrosities. At least the logos from the 70's and 80's have aged in interesting ways. I wasn't getting the prog when any of the top banner versions were in place and every time I see a cover with them, I can't help thinking I'm looking at some fake version of 2000 AD, or a 'best of' monthly cover or something.

I actually think the current 'geometric' style logo is the best of the lot in terms of the sympathetic way it works on the page - it doesn't dominate, it leaves plenty of space, and hey, it can even be customised too:

(https://images.rebellion.co.uk/productVersion/b9/3c/00.large.jpg)

We didn't forget this one, right?!
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: MacabreMagpie on 11 July, 2019, 10:29:23 AM
Yeah I'm fond of the current cover setup. As mentioned above, it allows for customisation/integration into the artwork very easily whilst remaining clear.

As much as I like the older-style logos, as someone who is not of that era (born in the 80s), I have to say that they would probably look a bit dated on the shelf today. Although that old-style cover Boo Cook did the other year looked fantastic, so, who knows.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 July, 2019, 10:30:14 AM
Misread title as Loos through the ages   :-[
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 July, 2019, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 11 July, 2019, 10:21:40 AM
(https://images.rebellion.co.uk/productVersion/b9/3c/00.large.jpg)

We didn't forget this one, right?!

Holy shit, that's a good cover!

Really want that as a poster, minus the strapline and barcode.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2019, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 11 July, 2019, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 11 July, 2019, 10:21:40 AM
(https://images.rebellion.co.uk/productVersion/b9/3c/00.large.jpg)

We didn't forget this one, right?!

Holy shit, that's a good cover!

Really want that as a poster, minus the strapline and barcode.

Not seeing the image - which cover is it?
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: MacabreMagpie on 11 July, 2019, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 11 July, 2019, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 11 July, 2019, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 11 July, 2019, 10:21:40 AM
(https://images.rebellion.co.uk/productVersion/b9/3c/00.large.jpg)

We didn't forget this one, right?!

Holy shit, that's a good cover!

Really want that as a poster, minus the strapline and barcode.

Not seeing the image - which cover is it?

The one where the 2000AD logo is a set of brass knuckles that Dredd is punching the reader with. Prog 2023
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 11 July, 2019, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 11 July, 2019, 10:30:14 AM
Misread title as Loos through the ages   :-[

(https://itsinterestingdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/toilets.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 July, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
'Human' toilets...? Is this from a Betelgeusian Earth primer?
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 11 July, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
'Human' toilets...? Is this from a Betelgeusian Earth primer?

(https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/images/articles/1253/litter-tray-etiquette-for-cat-owners-52ac24db2bedd.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: radiator on 11 July, 2019, 05:21:12 PM
QuoteAh c'mon, the original logo's a classic piece of design - bold, brash and deftly rendered. Great that it's still being used as the 'heritage' logo, in the same way that Adidas still use the trefoil for retro products and the three stripes for up-to-date stuff.

I agree - the original logo has a lot of retro cool, the fan is the most iconic. There's a reason why those two are so often used and revived while the chrome one (to my mind) never has been.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 11 July, 2019, 07:42:53 PM
There are some other interesting ones floating around:




Partially transparent back (590)Fore-text, Rear-back (671)No backing (713)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/590.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/671.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/713.jpg)
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Semi-transparent back (719)Flag Logo (p2000)Slaine destroys (1199)
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/719.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/specials/mediumres/PROG2000.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1199.jpg)
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Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 July, 2019, 09:13:08 PM
I used to love the Chrome logo. In many ways 'my' logo - see the point about James Bond, Doctor Who and nostaglia from before.

When the logos were on t-shirts and key rings not that long along I bounced along to buy those ones... stopped... looked at it.... and it slowly daned on me, however hard I tried to resist ... that it was actually... well.... pretty damned rubbish.

It was a moment of revalation I didn't enjoy. I've not watched a Roger Moore James Bond since...
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Leigh S on 11 July, 2019, 09:18:59 PM
Have we forgotten the regened cover so soon?
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Leigh S on 11 July, 2019, 09:21:45 PM
and 650 does something interesting...
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 11 July, 2019, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 11 July, 2019, 09:21:45 PM
and 650 does something interesting...

Indeed.

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/650.jpg) (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=profiles&choice=650)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 18 February, 2020, 03:29:11 AM
I just found prog 1965, with its unique take on the logo:

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1965.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Gary James on 18 February, 2020, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 18 February, 2020, 03:29:11 AM
I just found prog 1965, with its unique take on the logo:
While the image is extremely powerful, the strap line is... less so.

Any time an overly-used line is brought out to play there's always the danger that something really memorable is going to be overlaid onto the use of the words - in this case, the utterly brilliant Zero Tolerance (https://www.comics.org/series/16108/) mini from First, back in 1991. It is a story which even has some shades of MC1 (tailgating being punished by a shot which explodes the flying car real good), so the line's use is especially tied in my mind.

Not quite as blatant as all the inferences, references, homages, and allusions in the David Bishop era though... (not that that's necessarilly a bad thing)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 February, 2020, 12:58:47 AM
I love this thread.

I'd forgotten about the Big Dave newspaper logo - I really liked it,  although I'll grant it was a terrible idea. I remember very nearly giving up on trying to find the prog in my local newsagents that week.

Viz did something very similar with one of their issues, and were as frank as ever about the huge number of unsold copies returned to them that month.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Dash Decent on 22 February, 2020, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 18 February, 2020, 03:29:11 AM
I just found prog 1965, with its unique take on the logo:

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1965.jpg)

Ha!  'Zero' also because of the playing around with the 000 in the logo.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 February, 2020, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Dash Decent on 22 February, 2020, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 18 February, 2020, 03:29:11 AM
I just found prog 1965, with its unique take on the logo:

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/1965.jpg)

Ha!  'Zero' also because of the playing around with the 000 in the logo.

(Slaps forehead)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 08 May, 2020, 06:41:16 PM
But wait - what about the Megazine?




1.01 JD Sandwich1.08 JD Banner [border]2.10 JD Banner [no border]
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/1.01.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/1.08.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/2.10.jpg)
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2.28 JD Banner [transparent]2.50 JD Corner Panel3.01 JD Banner & Badge [spike]
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/2.28.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/2.50.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/3.01.jpg)
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3.14 JD Banner & Badge3.39 MEGAZINE & Badge3.64 Old Skool JD
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/3.14.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/3.39.jpg)
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(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/3.64.jpg)
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4.01 MEG & 2K Fan [blocky]4.09 JD MEG & 2K Fan [modern]209   JD MEG & 2K Fan [updated]
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/mediumres/4.01.jpg)
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238   JD [off kilter]266 JD & badge275   JD & badge [modern]
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299 *cracked*360 *destroyed*361   Modern
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Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 08 May, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
I absolutely hated the first logo when the Megazine was launched and still dislike it now.  Seeing them all lined up next to each other I think I can honestly say the most recent is the best.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 May, 2020, 08:59:06 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 08 May, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
I absolutely hated the first logo when the Megazine was launched and still dislike it now.  Seeing them all lined up next to each other I think I can honestly say the most recent is the best.

Pretty much this. The Megazine hasn't been blessed with good logos over the years has it. Maybe 'Judge Dredd Megazine' is just too much to get in well (cue examples of great logos with loads of text.).
The new one manages it pretty well however.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: broodblik on 09 May, 2020, 05:32:28 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 08 May, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
I absolutely hated the first logo when the Megazine was launched and still dislike it now.  Seeing them all lined up next to each other I think I can honestly say the most recent is the best.

Yip in total agreement here as well.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 May, 2020, 01:18:35 PM
The original one sort of worked in its era, but it left very little space for good cover art. The next one was a reasonable compromise, but they then headed towards varying degrees of awful. 2.50's metallic was perhaps the nadir, but there are also weird periods where the brand becomes 'Magazine' (during, ironically, my favourite run — that 4.01 relaunch was fantastic).

From a design standpoint, 4.09's is quite good, despite omitting the Judge Dredd brand. 238 is probably my overall favourite. The new one's a fairly close second.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Richard on 09 May, 2020, 06:13:28 PM
The new one is definitely the best!
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 31 March, 2022, 06:29:50 PM
Another special to add to the list:

(https://images.rebellion.click/productVersion/6b/a8/00.large.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 27 July, 2022, 11:59:55 PM
Glitzy glamor from prog 2260:

(https://images.rebellion.click/productVersion/b3/77/00.large.jpg)


And some excellent embedding from prog 2292:

(https://images.rebellion.click/productVersion/0a/ab/00.large.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 16 September, 2023, 05:17:16 PM
Hail to the chief!

(https://dyn.media.forbiddenplanet.com/XAqJ1QVe_jEvyMa7Lh8AZZXhkP8=/trim/fit-in/779x1024/filters:format(webp)/https://media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/fa/d0/0b8ec64e6c6089d4b42c0023817d15d04df4.jpeg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 16 September, 2023, 05:27:40 PM
And a recent special:

(https://images.rebellion.click/productVersion/51/ae/00.default.jpg)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: sheridan on 18 September, 2023, 03:09:43 PM
Is that the first time we've had a biochip 2000AD logo?  Seems remarkable after over two thousand one hundred progs (since Rogue's first appearance).
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: nxylas on 18 September, 2023, 05:51:57 PM
I don't know if this is true or not (probably not), but all the Megazine logos look to me like they come from standard font packages. Whereas the 2000AD logos mostly look like they were designed by actual designers.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 18 September, 2023, 06:57:57 PM
Quote from: nxylas on 18 September, 2023, 05:51:57 PMI don't know if this is true or not (probably not), but all the Megazine logos look to me like they come from standard font packages. Whereas the 2000AD logos mostly look like they were designed by actual designers.

I would say I don't know either, but this one can't be a standard font (unless adjusted), because of the Dredd face in the "J":

(https://www.2000ad.org/covers/megazine/hires/3.64.jpg)

Jim might know because he's the Typography Talent around here.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 20 September, 2023, 08:17:55 AM
I'm definitely fighting with Most Recent Megazine Logo block.  I hadn't really noticed they'd all but dropped the Judge Dredd part for a while, but I suspect the Stallone film was a factor.

And Cliff Robinson is brilliant at incorporating logos. I don't know how he manages - he just gets better and better, while a lot of people his age are watching Countdown and doing crosswords.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 September, 2023, 01:20:36 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I thought here was probably a better place to continue the discussion about logos than the main prog thread.  Broodblik, I see why your least favourite logo was the 'top banner' one of 950, but 'font' from 1200 is bottom of the pile for me.  It really, really looks like a half-arsed rush job and doesn't capture the spirit of the prog at all. 

I think the original 'stamp' (555?) is my favourite, though the modern day compromise is fine by me - they've kept something like it but lack of a background behind the larger logo next to it allows a bit more nice artwork to be seen.  (I loved the Sun parody cover of the Summer Offensive, but I nearly went home without my prog thinking it was another magazine on the shelf, so probably a bad idea marketingwise.)

What about the logos of the stories?  Maybe it's progstalgia but I liked the old Dredd logo best, with his badge instead of the 'U' and his profile in the 'J'.  Sláine is the only other changing logo I can think of - when Bisley first brought out his new spikey version I loved it, as I hadn't seen Heavy Metal Dredd yet and thought Bisley could walk on water back then.  I have since revised my opinion, as Tharg quickly did too - the classic one is better.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: broodblik on 22 September, 2023, 01:58:06 PM
Yes that prog "1200" font is quite horrible
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 September, 2023, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 18 September, 2023, 06:57:57 PMI would say I don't know either, but this one can't be a standard font (unless adjusted), because of the Dredd face in the "J":

There is (or, apparently, was, because Google doesn't turn up a link to it any more) a font based on the original Judge Dredd logo and it included the J-with-the-face. However, I've just checked the glyphs against the image you've posted (because, of course, I have the font installed) and this logo doesn't actually match the font, so I figure this one was drawn manually based on the letterforms of the original logo...
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: norton canes on 22 September, 2023, 08:30:07 PM
The Hershey logo has been fantastic - great to see a logo dominate a page rather than being grafted into a panel where there's space (obviously I get that they do this so they can remove it from collected editions)
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 September, 2023, 08:55:34 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 22 September, 2023, 08:30:07 PMThe Hershey logo has been fantastic - great to see a logo dominate a page rather than being grafted into a panel where there's space (obviously I get that they do this so they can remove it from collected editions)

You've just reminded me of the collected Young Death: Obviously they had to remove the 'next issue' text but the box remained. Someone made the very bad decision of using the space to add an extra line of dialogue. It got very silly.
Title: Re: Logos Through the Ages
Post by: Funt Solo on 24 February, 2024, 10:18:36 PM
Another special to add to the list:

(https://media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/77/a0/b8645885c7ca4cf7f1ef0109aa3db15589e7.jpg)