Terror Bill and the Super-Soaraway-Sun

[Steve Green]

I thought they might do this, but I dismissed it as low even for them.

Looks like I was wrong.

Link: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005520222,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005520222,00.html

[Floyd-the-k]

That's like a parody, that list.  The MP's should feel quite proud.

worse still, Striker is back.

[Funt Solo]

So, The Sun have printed a list of the sanest MPs in the UK?  Good on 'em - now I know who to support.

What gets me about this is that the media seem to be willingly missing the point:  the bill was a success for Labour.  Blair's out anyway, so we needn't give much of a toss about his popularity - the bill DID go through - and the maximum period in custody without charge has been DOUBLED.

So, the powers that be can now hold a suspect for 28 days (yes, a whole month) with no trial.  The key word here is 'suspect'.  Remember that old guy that spoke out at the labour conference?  He was held be police as a "terror suspect".  So go ahead and tell me how this new power won't be mis-used.

It's all a far cry from 90 days (thank f*ck) but I doubt very much that labour thought they'd get that anyway.  Aim high and score exactly where you intended to.

Tony really is Teflon Tone now:  he can do whatever he wants, and if he goes too far and has to resign, well, no problem - he has his replacement waiting in the wings anyway.

[Dark Jimbo]

Jesus effing christ, is there no-one who they won't incite fairly random hatred at?

"Print the list off and stick it on your fridge as a reminder of the TRAITOR MPs who betrayed Britain."

Yeah, great, you can drink your morning tea and have a daily snarl at the list of TRAITOR MPs!!!! to get your blood boiling before you go off to work. Good one.

[Bico]

The thing to remember about the Sun is that it exists in its own little bubble of reality that even the building contractors with questionable opinions about non-whites and gays I used to work with found to be laughable.  The Sun's main readership consists of people who get a fifteen minute tea break and need a paper that doesn't take that long to get through.

[Steve Green]

When the police asked for this extension after detaining an 80 year-old under the Terrorism Act it felt like a drunk driver asking for a Lamborghini.

- Steve

[The Amstor Computer]

Skimming the Grauniad this morning, ISTR that the person whose photo the Sun used on their recent front cover supporting the proposed laws - it was the image of a survivor of the July 7 attacks - is furious that they used their photo to promote their agenda - "stealing their voice" is how they put it, I believe.

[Max Kon]

isn't this kinda what the terrorests want?

[Steve Green]

Maybe they should have a Panini-style Name and Shame Sticker book.

- Steve

[Oddboy]

I'm annoyed that my local MP's name *wasn't* on that list. Not that I voted for her in the first place, but she's still supposed to be representing me.

I see no reason to hold anybody without charging them for any longer then 24 hours. If you're sure they're guilty enough to use 90days worth of police resources, then book 'em. Then you've got plenty of time to gather evidence for the courts to decide if they are guilty.

[Satanist]

Ive had to stop reading the letters page in the Sun as it makes me MAD. Same goes for the News of the world. And dont get me started on the Daily Records problem page, effing man-hater.

I dont buy any of these, they put them out in the works canteen. Honest guvnor.

[El Spurioso]

What bugs me about the whole revolting business is that Tone and his most ardent supporters were using the fact that "top policemen" had *requested* the 90 day thing as their sole case for the new law.  "The police have asked for it... so it MUST be vital!"

I mean... for FUCK'S SAKE, people!  If the UK's leading Fire Fighter asked for a nationwide ban on matches, gas-cookers, lighters, barbecues and bunsen burners because "it'll make our jobs a tad easier", would we do it?  Dog's cock, we would!

Hey, Tone, it would make it a lot easier for the police to stop Bad Things Happening if we had a 24hour curfew too.  I bet they'd be RIGHT up for the idea.  Let's do it!


Actually, let me rephrase that: what bugs me MOST about the whole revolting issue is that the majority of people - voters - really DID support the 90 day policy.  And we can generalise as much as we want about stereotypical Sun readers, but it doesn't change the sad truth: right now a pretty healthy majority of UK residents are sitting at home feeling as though their parliament has completely failed to represent what they want.

Arseholes.

[GordonR]

"I'm annoyed that my local MP's name *wasn't* on that list. Not that I voted for her in the first place, but she's still supposed to be representing me."

And the other 30,000 people in your constituency, not all of whom necessarily hold the same views as you.

Let me explain how this crazy 'mass representational democracy' thing works...

[The Amstor Computer]

And dont get me started on the Daily Records problem page, effing man-hater

Ah, the delightful Joan Burnie.

"Dear Joan,

I came home early last week and found my husband watching a dirty movie on the telly. I confronted him about it, but now we haven't spoken for days. What can I do?

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Divorce the dirty wee man. Only incorrigible perverts and child abusers watch porn, and you're just being a fool if you think that he's anything more than subhuman. Get out now, before he starts bumming you and your schemie kids, you sad little woman!"

[Satanist]

Dear Joan,
I came home early from work yesterday to find my wife being spit roasted by both my brothers. Shes emptied our bank account to buy heroin and beats me when shes drunk. Im at my wits end as she says if I try and leave she'll hunt me down and kill me. What can I do?

Have you tried buying her flowers,etc,etc