Over on Amazon.
Cheap Graphic novels.
Are you gonna buy some for your collection?
Not in collection.
Great if you have a Kindle.
my standees near to being posted?
You don't have a kindle, what type of collector are you ;)
What, you haven't got them!
I best check the Cellar and reseal them and send them off before the upcoming event!
I've already got the physical editions of the case files (and the original progs, and the Titan reprints, and the Complete Judge Dredd issues, and many Eagle comics reprints) but I figured I have to have these... So I ordered the first one and it's not compatible with the Kindle readers on my tablet thingy or on my PC! Grr! How annoying!
-- Mike
Now that is perplexing!
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 20 May, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
I've already got the physical editions of the case files (and the original progs, and the Titan reprints, and the Complete Judge Dredd issues, and many Eagle comics reprints) but I figured I have to have these... So I ordered the first one and it's not compatible with the Kindle readers on my tablet thingy or on my PC! Grr! How annoying!
-- Mike
What tablet do you have Mike?
The Kindle App should work fine on iOS or Android for comics.
I was really after getting these collections in physical form, using my tablet primarily for comics, but at that price.....*
I'm curious how comics fare in the Kindle app. I have a Nexus 7 and while you can zoom in using comics apps like Comixology and PDF reader, the kobo and kindle apps don't appear to have that facility (although their find for text obviously). The amount of times I've read a fantasy novel with maps etc, and I'm unable to zoom in!
Then again as these are comics specifically for the kindle app I guess they must take that into account.
*To be fair I'm running out of space in my room too which makes e-versions all the more attractive.
Premature worries - judging by the sample it works and zooms in just fine. Not as nice to use as proper comics apps like Comixology but you can read the panels just fine. At £1.89 a winning compromise.
I got Origins works on my phone, but not well. Doesn't seem to know if it works on my PC. Works perfectly on my son's Asus pad (the one with snap on keyboard).
A-ha...! Yesterday, I updated the Kindle reader software on my tablet (a Lenovo IdeaTab something-or-other - it's a pretty nice machine, actually), and it still didn't work.
However, I tried again today and now it's working! Yay!
-- Mike
I picked up Case Files 5, Origins, America and The Pit for less than a tenner. All work fine on the Nexus 7 Kindle app with reasonable panel by panel zoom as well as the regular B/W Kindle. Great bargain!
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 21 May, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
However, I tried again today and now it's working! Yay!
-- Mike
Nice one!
Can anyone tell me how high the resolution on these Kindle editions look?
I've downloaded previews of the various 2000 AD Kindle trades, and have been very disappointed in their quality. Low resolutions, and clearly formatted for the Kindle Fire screen, but not the iPad (they have really wide margins, with the art presented a bit smaller then you'd expect).
Now. Its possible that because these are previews, they are inferior. But I sort of doubt it. I'd like confirmation, because these digital trades are kind of pricey to just purchase without being sure they are high quality.
If there is one criticism I can level at Rebellion for their digital support (which is quite above average compared to other publishers) its that their graphic resolution is just too low across the board. iPad app, digital shop, and I'm presuming Kindle books... Noticeable compression artifacts just sort or ruin the experience sometimes.
I found on the Kindle App on my iPad you have the big black borders as well (I bought Case Files 5). I think it was said here that they are designed to be most compatible with Kindles.
Just watched America on my Kindle HD for only £1.89...
Great stuff, colours are sharp and dialogue is clear. And if you use the 'panel view' option, it takes you through each panel individually and enlarges each panel slightly....Not as good as having the actual Graphic Novel in your hand, but, for only £1.89...
A Definite bargain.. !! :D..
Will now get a few more..
But is there noticeable pixilation when you zoom into those panels?
I am seriously curious here.
The Adventurer,
No absolutely NO Pixilation when you zoom in...Not on the Kindle HD anyway...
Apart from the constant need to 'flick' to the next panel....a bit like repeatedly turning pages, its really good....And I thought I would hate it !!....
I've since bought Twisted Dark and Tales from the Edge 'Deaths Row' and of course America, and spent less than £4.....
Give it a try, at £1.89 you'll soon know if it's 'worth it' or not.......and ( probably ) like me you'll become, if not a complete 'convert', at least an often / occasional casual user ( if the price is right )... :D
Absolutely with Bob on this; I hate the idea of digital books (I want the feel of paper in my hand, the smell of the ink and binding, reading is a tactile experience for me) but thought I'd give 'The Pit' and 'Origins' a go as it's going to be a while until they appear in the CFs. While not a convert, I am enjoying the accessibility of it (I can dip in and out on breaks at work for example and not risk creasing covers), and you can't really go wrong at £1.89 and will pick up others (at the right price) and buy as 'real' books at a later date...
Yeah, I agree with that Mark....
I 'love' the feel of the Graphic Novel, and like Mark, find reading GNs' a 'tactile' experience PLUS the big pages for me, 'enhances the artwork' and the viewing pleasure.
Although the Kindle is great for these items at these prices, it will never take over ( for me anyway ) having the actual book in my hand.....but its' great as an additional way of getting your comic fix when on holidays / travelling etc...
To be honest, I'm so surprised at just how good it is, I've gone ahead and bought 'The Pit' as well, for the astonishing price of £1.89....That works out about 1p per page........Can't go wrong with that.... :D
'bout bleedin' time ;) my bog standard kindle handles them ok, got origins and finally the manga sized books are on there too (see molcher does care!) no probs so far but the panel view makes some smaller but the zoom seems to be good enuff for me and my knackered eyes.
Also been enjoying these at the bargain prices, but there is an annoying "feature" with my Kindle app on my iPad. The huge white border round the margins. I don't seem to be able to zoom in to fill the screen with just the comic. I think this must be a feature of the app, rather than the comic book.
I also prefer the feel of a real graphic novel, and they have the distinct advantage of being able to be signed by their creators at events!
No. I'm pretty sure its how the book is formated. See, I believe its intended for the Kindle Fire first. And the Kindle Fire is much narrower then the iPad. So when you read these comics through the Kindle reader on the iPad app, it makes these huge margins. Because if it was wider, it wouldn't fit in the Kindle Fire reader window.
Or at least its my working theory. Also, why I'm not buying any of the Kindle editions. And sticking to the Digital Shop editions. Which, I'd hope, are formatted properly.
I did wonder if it was preferential treatment for the Kindle Fire that was responsible...
For £1.89 I'm not too worried, but I certainly wouldn't pay full price for a Kindle comic.
While it works pretty well on my Android device, I've noticed that the sensitivity is variable. I.e. sometimes just tapping will zoom you in on the next panel. Other times you have to stroke as if flipping a page. At other times nothing seems to work and it's a matter of zooming out one panel (tap twice) then zooming in on the next panel.
I'm sure it's not my devices sensitivity as it seems fine with other apps like ComicRack and Comixology.
the 1.89 mustve been a mistake, theyre back to full price (9.21).. rip-off really, no point getting the kindle version now
Quote from: LorcanQ on 31 May, 2013, 01:59:09 PM
the 1.89 mustve been a mistake, theyre back to full price (9.21).. rip-off really, no point getting the kindle version now
It was a promotion by Amazon on certain comic books. Must have ended yesterday...
Yes, it was a 'promotional offer' and most are now back to normal price.....Which for me is a little expensive for a digital comic, and I would prefer to pay slightly more and get the 'real' GN instead...
|However, there are still bargains to be had if you look.....
For example :
Twisted Dark...Volume 1...£0.49....Have got this myself and it's very good....Especially for 49p..
Chew Volume 1....£2.29
HP Lovecraft ..Call of Cthulhu...£1.49.
Pandora ...End of Days Vol 1...£1.59
Worlds of Lovecraft Vol 1 - 3...£1.95..
Cheers... :D
The thing was running for a month, to be fair, and Amazon also clearly stated the offer would end on the 30th. I didn't grab any 2000 AD stuff (I have the paper books), but got a ton of Doctor Who and Locke and Key.
Yeah wished I'd bought more but I have all the print copies anyway and I'll keep doing that while the Kindle versions are as (understandbly) pricey as they are. The digital versions look good but you have to hold it in your hands :P
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 31 May, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
The thing was running for a month, to be fair, and Amazon also clearly stated the offer would end on the 30th. I didn't grab any 2000 AD stuff (I have the paper books), but got a ton of Doctor Who and Locke and Key.
I was recommended
Locke and Key by
Link Prime and
Albion so went ahead and got them in GN form...
If I hadn't got them in GN form I would have got them on Kindle....They're great... :D
I'd not come across Locke and Key before. I figured all five books were roughly the same price as a single paper trade, so: bought. If I like them a lot, I'll grab the paper editions later on.
I'd think that you will really like them, IndigoPrime....
I thought they were excellent...BUT, I started with them in Graphic Novel form so I'm sticking with that format....
I've got the 1st 4 volumes in Paperback and the 5th Volume is due out in July.....I think there is 6 in the series and that's it.....
Anyway...Enjoy .. :D
I bought a couple of Locke and Key collections at the Comixology sale recently. And they really are good. (Well the one I'm reading is, and the previous ones that I've read but do not own. I'll probably get them too at some point, but with my limited finances wanted to concentrate on just buying unread stuff this time.)
I didn't realise it was a promotional offer!
I wish I'd of bought more now.
I got case files 5 and the cursed earth saga as well as Origins.
Absolute bargain at those prices, not really worth it at full price for me.
Quote from: opaque on 01 June, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
Yeah wished I'd bought more but I have all the print copies anyway and I'll keep doing that while the Kindle versions are as (understandbly) pricey as they are. The digital versions look good but you have to hold it in your hands :P
Why are they so pricey though? Theres no production costs at all compared to a graphic novel
Quote from: LorcanQ on 02 June, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Quote from: opaque on 01 June, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
Yeah wished I'd bought more but I have all the print copies anyway and I'll keep doing that while the Kindle versions are as (understandbly) pricey as they are. The digital versions look good but you have to hold it in your hands :P
Why are they so pricey though? Theres no production costs at all compared to a graphic novel
I used to think this too, (concerning all ebooks not just comics) but it occurs to me most of the work is done by the creators.* To mark the price down too much would not be fair to them. Although I agree they should be cheaper.
*Ok, I suppose in 2000 Ad's case it's not the creators who directly profit from this due to the 'work for hire' model, and but I think it's fair the principle applies across the board. Whether or not the creators should profit, well, that's another debate.
Quote from: LorcanQ on 02 June, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Why are they so pricey though? Theres no production costs at all compared to a graphic novel
Don't forget in Blighty e-books attract VAT, whereas paper books do not. So that probably goes someway to explaining it, and as
Mardroid rightly points out, creators and copyright holders need their share too.
Really, the only production difference in terms of costs is paper, printing and physical distribution. For some reason, a lot of people assume this is the majority cost in terms of magazines and books, whereas much of production in reality is the actual creation, editing and management of a product. On top of that, it's worth noting that distribution platforms take their cut—Comixology doesn't provide a home for comics for the good of its health; likewise, any purchase made through Apple or Amazon results in a cut going to that company. And as already noted, UK digital products require VAT, whereas print products are VAT-free.
Hmm... Complete Case Files v. 4 is only 58p cheaper for me to buy as a download. I'm probably going to need slightly more incentive than that, to be honest.
Quote from: Matt Timson on 02 June, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
Hmm... Complete Case Files v. 4 is only 58p cheaper for me to buy as a download. I'm probably going to need slightly more incentive than that, to be honest.
That's fair enough. One other incentive for me to purchase more ebooks is lack of space. My bookshelf and the smaller shelf in my computer desk (the very shelf that used to be the home of my printer before I moved it downstairs) are pretty much all full up now! And comic boxes are taking up too much space. Oh and it's nice to order and receive a book within minutes rather than wait for it to arrive in the post (although the anticipation of waiting is also a thrill all of it's own) .
I am talking about books and comics in general though. Certain things like The Case Files I'd still prefer to purchase in physical form. I this recent deal was just too good though.
I'm so glad I bought an ebook reader (2 including my tablet which has kindle and kobo apps as well as Comixology and Comic Rack for CBZ files) but I will still purchase physical books on occasion.
I think the price will settle down eventually (or people will simply get used to being stuffed and just accept it- it could go either way really).
I'm a bit torn on digital pricing, to be honest- though much less so when it comes to reprint material.
Discussion for another day, I think.
Quote from: Mardroid on 02 June, 2013, 05:40:06 PM
Whether or not the creators should profit, well, that's another debate.
All creators receive reprint royalties from their books, this includes sales of ebooks.
And if you think there are no production costs in ebooks then you really have no idea about how the world of ebooks works.
fair enough i suppose, just curious. top shelf, vertigo and some image comics books are pretty cheap kindle-wise so its just confusing why that's that way for some and not so for others.
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 June, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 02 June, 2013, 05:40:06 PM
Whether or not the creators should profit, well, that's another debate.
All creators receive reprint royalties from their books, this includes sales of ebooks.
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That's good to know. I wasn't sure how work for hire creators stood on this considering the ownership of their characters was the company.
And if you think there are no production costs in ebooks then you really have no idea about how the world of ebooks works.
I didn't say there was no production costs for ebooks. I'd imagine it would be less taking into account the lack of printing though. My post wasn't arguing for massive reductions in the cost of ebooks compared to printed media anyway.
Whoops. Sorry, I messed up the quotes there. And modify has gone already...
Quote from: Mardroid on 03 June, 2013, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 03 June, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 02 June, 2013, 05:40:06 PM
Whether or not the creators should profit, well, that's another debate.
All creators receive reprint royalties from their books, this includes sales of ebooks.
[/quoute]
That's good to know. I wasn't sure how work for hire creators stood on this considering the ownership of their characters was the company.
And if you think there are no production costs in ebooks then you really have no idea about how the world of ebooks works.
I didn't say there was no production costs for ebooks. I'd imagine it would be less taking into account the lack of printing though. My post wasn't arguing for massive reductions in the cost of ebooks compared to printed media anyway.
I was actually replying to Lorcan's comment, though as has been pointed out the physical artefact of a book is actually one of the lesser costs.
Ok sorry. I agree. I got confused just seeing myself in the quote. :-[
Slaine the Horned God is £1.91 on kindle/amazon at the moment.
Quote from: KYUSS on 01 August, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
Slaine the Horned God is £1.91 on kindle/amazon at the moment.
Sorry £1.89.
Quote from: KYUSS on 01 August, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: KYUSS on 01 August, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
Slaine the Horned God is £1.91 on kindle/amazon at the moment.
Sorry £1.89.
Smart move updating the price difference there Kyuss, the pedantic predators proliferating this forum were moments away from striking I'm sure.
Great price for anyone that hasn't read it.
I Have it in a few formats as it is, may as well get it digital too. Cheers for the tip.
Horned god back on for £1.89.
I popped onto Amazon there to see if they had any other Kindle bargains, and noticed that Egmont UK have some collections available, such as 'The Thirteenth Floor' & 'Misty'.
Anyone try these? The prices are quite good (less than 2 quid)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thirteenth-Floor-Comic-Part-ebook/dp/B009W1UKZI/ref=pd_sim_kinc_1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Misty-Comic-Tales-Mist-ebook/dp/B009W1UPH6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_kinc_3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thirteenth-Floor-Comic-Part-ebook/dp/B009W1UL5M/ref=pd_sim_kinc_2
Note the page count for The Thirteenth Floor: 25. For £1.78. That's not bad, but new issues of 2000 AD in print are only £2.35, by comparison.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 02 September, 2013, 01:20:45 PM
Note the page count for The Thirteenth Floor: 25. For £1.78. That's not bad, but new issues of 2000 AD in print are only £2.35, by comparison.
Never copped the page count!
I bought the 'Misty' one just to check it out. Will download on my Nexus later.
Kindle Halo Jones on Amazon £1.29.
Quote from: gronk guy on 26 December, 2013, 03:40:40 PM
Kindle Halo Jones on Amazon £1.29.
Those prices are not available in the U.S. Which sucks.
Case files 1 & 2 and Trifecta up for £1.29 each.
bloody hell!!
the whole ebook thing looks so tempting,
i purchase stuff through comicsX which i enjoy,
i abstain from 2000ad stuff as i enjoy the physical,
but at these prices with a decent cloud account for storage, its a big push for me to go this direction.
Question, if anyone can answer,
at these prices does rebellion still get there fair share?
I would not wish to be part of such challenges of revenue reduction.
cold hard economics are important to the brand.
i am willing to pay a few quid extra under such circumstances.
It'd be nice if 2000 AD had a presence on Comixology. You know it would be a nice earner.
Quote from: sheldipez on 19 January, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
It'd be nice if 2000 AD had a presence on Comixology. You know it would be a nice earner.
Mostly for Comixology.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 19 January, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 19 January, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
It'd be nice if 2000 AD had a presence on Comixology. You know it would be a nice earner.
Mostly for Comixology.
As opposed to UK retail?
Quote from: sheldipez on 19 January, 2014, 07:07:42 PMAs opposed to UK retail?
As opposed to Rebellion's own app.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 20 January, 2014, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: sheldipez on 19 January, 2014, 07:07:42 PMAs opposed to UK retail?
As opposed to Rebellion's own app.
Because everyone has that. The android version is brilliant.
I can understand the reasoning for more control meaning more profits but it just means less people buying it. Just like Dark Horse isn't on comixology so they're gonna not gonna sell as much stock.
I personally will fanny on with click wheel but it's daft that 2000 ad is represented on Comixology by IDWs Dredd. Brilliant front man.
Publishers should control their distribution if they can. If I don't have to pay Apple, and/or a middleman like ComiXology, all the better) Rebellion is doing everything (mostly right). Now if I could just convince Dark Horse to go DRM-free... we'd be all set.
You're right about ComiXology being more visible. But by the same token being lumped in there is going to help lose you (the publisher) in the shuffle.
Discoverability in a large store only works if you're prominent. Comixology's fine if you know what you're looking for, but the same brands are 'advertised' in the app time and time again. And it doesn't necessarily follow that 2000 AD would sell more if it happened to be in that app rather than Rebellion controlling its own digital destiny.
As for Android, I take it people noticed Rebellion advertising for an Android dev? Now, there's obviously not been any formal announcement of what that means, but it's not a huge leap to suggest it might be about getting 2000 AD on to that platform.