Wonder Woman 2017

[Dark Jimbo]

I get what Rogue Earthlet is saying about the normalization of violence against men by women in the media but I just don't think this is the right movie to illustrate the point.

As he would know if he'd seen it!

[Rara Avis]

His impassioned stance on the subject would have greatly benefited from a viewing of the movie in question.

[Rogue Earthlet]

I'm aware, Joe Soap, that some read 2000AD because they get off on the violence.
As for those who mock me because I haven't seen Wonder Woman, I'm sure they all form an opinion of a film before they see it, and that forms their judgement on whether they will see it. If you want an example of people taking a firm, even extreme view of a film they haven't seen, Google 'The Red Pill'. It's a film made by documentary maker Cassie Jaye about the men's rights groups, that explores that issue in a questioning manner. But the protests, the attempts to stop it being screened, not forgetting the decision by Netflix not to show it, is a bad case of mob censorship. By people who've not seen it.

You now appear to be arguing that it's a bad thing to judge a film without having seen it. So you would agree that it's not a good idea to pass comment on Wonder Woman before you've seen it then?

And I don't think anyone has been mocking you, it was certainly not my attention, just questioning the validity of a comment made on a film that you haven't seen.

Ps. The film was great, you should see it if you enjoy fun superhero films.

The protesters I refer to didn't just judge The Red Pill, they physically tried to prevent anyone seeing it. Whatever my thoughts on WW I'm not saying it shouldn't be screened.

[Rogue Earthlet]

I'm sure they all form an opinion of a film before they see it, and that forms their judgement on whether they will see it.

That's not the same thing as writing about it on a forum before you've seen it, and you know it.

I also know that the publicity for WW has been substantial.

[Rogue Earthlet]

With what is probably my last post on this subject (will the person who said 'hooray' please leave the room lol) my point can be summed up like this. If WW killing men is entertainment, if those being killed are women is it still entertaining? It's as simple as that. I've started a Facebook page about it, here,

https://www.facebook.com/PetalPopsy-and-Pepsy-258408847972872/?ref=aymt_homepage_panel

[JOE SOAP]

If WW killing men is entertainment, if those being killed are women is it still entertaining? It's as simple as that.

Both situations take place in Wonder Woman. Watch it and decide for yourself – otherwise you'll never know.

[TordelBack]

I'm trying to follow the logic here: some cinemas bowed to pressure groups and didn't screen a documentary celebrating the whining of the most pathetic movement humanity has yet to devise, and that justifies Rogue Earthlet making things up about a fantasy movie he hasn't even seen, or apparently even read the Wikipedia summary of? The phrase that keeps popping into my head is 'seek professional help', but I doubt there's any available that would answer.

No-one is denying the problems facing men and boys in a society that is just beginning to think about offering a level playing field to all its members, but systematically and (worse) ignorantly knocking each of the tiny handful of female-led genre movies is an absurd reaction.

[Smith]

Strictly in tv-land terms,mowing down some mooks is bad because?

[Frank]

Strictly in tv-land terms,mowing down some mooks is bad because?

Not satirical enough. 2000ad's okay, according to Rogue Earthlet, because the violence is satire.

Like when Rogue Trooper shouts 'DIE, NORT SCUM' and murders a platoon. Or when Sinister Dexter whack someone they've been paid to kill by shooting them dead fancy and making a pun.

Great satire.

[Modern Panther]

If WW killing men is entertainment, if those being killed are women is it still entertaining?

Yes.  Although for that to work as a narrative, it would need to be set during an international conflict during which the vast majority of participants were women, during an age where men were largely disenfranchised.  And for it to really work as entertainment, you'd have to market to men who continue to be underrepresented in the medium.   If you can find one of those, you should absolutely unknot your panties and write a screenplay about it.

[Frank]

if those being killed are women is it still entertaining?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8Slzx-Gpc

[Frank]

if those being killed are women is it still entertaining?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkJ2bZGuiaI

[Frank]

if those being killed are women is it still entertaining?

See also: every horror film since Hallowe'en and the dozens of TV shows with morgue scenes that devote 20 minutes of screen time to the blue lips and nipples of a gorgeous, naked, teenage corpse:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atjhOhH-V3E

[Smith]

Which again brings the question,why is this different then every other action movie?
As for why not WW2...well,Captain America did that already,and WB/DC didnt want to be too obvious.
American civil war?To be fair,North didnt need help there,so it would be pointless.

[Rara Avis]

Made me think of these scenes:

Woman on Woman:  https://youtu.be/mClOxgyWLs8

Man on Woman: https://youtu.be/Ccmava-4KnY

I have not seen that movie in quite some time so I hope these are contextually accurate.

See also: every horror film since Hallowe'en and the dozens of TV shows with morgue scenes that devote 20 minutes of screen time to the blue lips and nipples of a gorgeous, naked, teenage corpse:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atjhOhH-V3E