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New Rogue Trooper Film!!

Started by Beeks, 15 July, 2018, 06:04:49 PM

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Leigh S

From a practical point of view, someone has to lug the other chips about -  a tough job, but someone has to do it! You could try and find another piece of equipmnent for the fourth man, but since they are already  stretching things with Helm, it makes sense to have the fourth man a "rogue" who can fit in any slot should one of the specialists be the last GI standing

Quote from: GrudgeJohnDeed on 19 July, 2018, 05:07:55 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 19 July, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
No need for Rogue to have a slot - if all four of your squad are dead, there's no one to carry them!  Also, if three of your squad are dead, there's no one to cut out the fourth GIs chip - hence the idea of classes of GI, three specialising in their equipment slot and one "rogue" who can fit in any of the three Jack of all trades level.

Yeah true, but it just seems odd to me that they've all got their specialisation with regards to being posthumously inserted into hardware, and Rogue doesn't.

The Legendary Shark

As the Quartz Massacre was progressing, surely there'd be scores of G.I.s removing the chips of the dead and inserting them into equipment slots all over the place. I always wondered what became of all those bio-chipped weapons and why Rogue apparently abandoned them. Maybe a good story would be Rogue trying to rescue as many chips as possible (not only from "death" but also an enemy retrieval squad), carrying them across Nu Earth in a bloody sack only to find there's no hope for them. If the chips communicate via some form of bluetwooth or wi-fi (doing away with the need for voice-synthing), Rogue might be inundated with signals, driving him to the edge of madness so that, in the end, he is forced to either abandon them, except three, or crack up. The naming of the biochips might be done under encroaching insanity. The bodies of the dead G.I.s might be studied and reverse-engineered to produce a genetic monster which is bigger, stronger and madder than Rogue, but without the training or control.

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GrudgeJohnDeed

Quote from: Leigh S on 19 July, 2018, 05:44:54 PM
From a practical point of view, someone has to lug the other chips about -  a tough job, but someone has to do it! You could try and find another piece of equipmnent for the fourth man, but since they are already  stretching things with Helm, it makes sense to have the fourth man a "rogue" who can fit in any slot should one of the specialists be the last GI standing

Yeah I getcha, perhaps also it could be that all 4 have specialisations, but all 4 are at least competent to an acceptable degree when inserted in slots not their own? That would be the most useful I guess.

Leigh S

You'd think that would be a good idea, but then theres that story where Rogue is blinded and puts the chips in the wrong slots with hilarious results - posssibly not the best story to use as source material for the film!   :lol:


Quote from: GrudgeJohnDeed on 19 July, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 19 July, 2018, 05:44:54 PM
From a practical point of view, someone has to lug the other chips about -  a tough job, but someone has to do it! You could try and find another piece of equipmnent for the fourth man, but since they are already  stretching things with Helm, it makes sense to have the fourth man a "rogue" who can fit in any slot should one of the specialists be the last GI standing

Yeah I getcha, perhaps also it could be that all 4 have specialisations, but all 4 are at least competent to an acceptable degree when inserted in slots not their own? That would be the most useful I guess.

Dandontdare

Plot-wise, I'd bet a pound to a penny that we'll see either a rookie soldier on his first posting, or a sexy female war correspondent, encountering Rogue whilst stranded in the chem-deserts, and being saved by him from all kinds of Nortynesss, whilst explaining the traitor general storyline, all leading to a final boss battle.

IAMTHESYSTEM

Do you think this might be an attempt at an adult franchise that Dredd was supposed to start? There's a never-ending possibility for films set on Nu Earth so that you can see the logic of beginning another comic book Universe perhaps with a more mature audience in mind. I hope it does end in a cliffhanger though with Rogue thwarted in his attempt to discover the Traitors whereabouts and having to slog his way across the Nu Earth Battlefield just in time for the sequel.
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JayzusB.Christ

I'll probably get shot for saying it, but I'm not entirely sure the film needs the Traitor General.  The first Friday story did ok without him, as did many of the original Rogue stories.

How about an adaptation of The Golden Fox Rebellion? (Joking about that bit of course.)
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Magnetica

I'm strangely not excited yet. I just hope it will be good, but am afraid if it has a relatively modest budget it won't look that great. I hope I am wrong and of course I realise a Star Wars or Marvel level budget is unrealistic.

I find it interesting that when Jason Kingsley was talking about Rebellion licensing 2000AD films at the 40th, the example discussed was Rogue Trooper. Coincidence or was something already in the pipeline?

Eric Plumrose

Quote from: JamesC on 19 July, 2018, 03:34:06 PM
There are loads of things that don't quite make sense but it's nothing that can't be sorted out.

Well, quite. Oh, sure they're GM gingers but why even have bio-chips when GI exceptionalism basically means they don't have to suit-up.
Not sure if pervert or cheesecake expert.

Steve Green

Quote from: Magnetica on 19 July, 2018, 10:27:49 PM
I'm strangely not excited yet. I just hope it will be good, but am afraid if it has a relatively modest budget it won't look that great. I hope I am wrong and of course I realise a Star Wars or Marvel level budget is unrealistic.

I find it interesting that when Jason Kingsley was talking about Rebellion licensing 2000AD films at the 40th, the example discussed was Rogue Trooper. Coincidence or was something already in the pipeline?

I think you're worrying over nothing.

TordelBack

Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 19 July, 2018, 08:19:51 PM
I'll probably get shot for saying it, but I'm not entirely sure the film needs the Traitor General.

Probably true, he was at his best when he wasn't in the strip at all, although I do like the current Rennie/Holden version.  Betrayal is at the heart of the strip though, so some entity responsible for the massacre needs to appear - even if it's only the Clavell Corporation conducting a field test.

Steve Green

Yeah, there needs to be something there, just not sure about it being the Traitor.

JOE SOAP

#132
Rogue, especially, needs a personal objective to make him empathic beyond just being a clone-soldier created solely to fight a war. His story is meant to be grounded; so if Rogue's own war is incited and personified by the Traitor General, or the illusion of such a figure, then that's perfectly fine and the way to go.

Rogue and the bio-chips need a solid reason to go rogue and the hunt for the General all ready ticks a lot of boxes that need to be ticked anyway: a private war fought within a greater war against a somewhat phantom enemy playing both sides in what is all ready an insane conflict allows for plenty of subtext about identity and personal agendas during wartime.

The Quartz Massacre is a must-see cinematic and story-device – and don't forget the black-hole (not Butt-Plug's peripheral).

Beeks

Quote from: Steven Denton on 19 July, 2018, 02:50:37 PM
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013=Friday, 008=Eightball etc.

I think it would be a hard method to expand on without the GI battalion becoming a game of bingo.

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Ah this made me chuckle far too hard  :lol:
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sheridan

Quote from: Steve Green on 19 July, 2018, 01:11:58 PM
Ahem, buttplug got a mention on a twitter thread I tagged PJ in - Duncan noticed that one...


You were in a twitter thread with PJ and Duncan?