I've noticed a couple of peeps have mentioned dropping the bundled floppies / mini graphic novels from the Megazine, and again most recentlly over at the 2000ad.wordpress. I was just wondering if this was the feelings of the majority?
I for one love those things as I get to read up on a bunch of stuff in the same series that I've never read before in one quick succession without having to go hunt down all the progs they appeared in. Though I can kinda see the point of someone who's read them all previously, but is it not good thing being able to re-read the material again in a lump.
Keep them coming please!
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Seconded. I'm always happy to read these even if the material isn't the best. Plus, there's still plenty of stuff that could be reprinted.
The contents of the Megazine has always been a balancing act ever since they had to start including reprint material 16 years ago.
A Megazine consisting solely of all-new strip material isn't economically viable - and it amazes me that some long-term readers still haven't grasped this.
I kinda like the floppies. There've been a fair few that haven't been to my taste, but I do like the fact that I now have certain niche strips like Strontium Dogs, Durham Red, Downlode Tales etc that are unlikely to be collected elsewhere.
The only problem with them is that they sometimes (certainly not always) serve to highlight a poor Meg - if I find that the most enjoyable read out of the whole package is a 20 year old reprint of a B-list strip, then you have to question what's in the main magazine.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 18 December, 2012, 01:46:01 PM
The only problem with them is that they sometimes (certainly not always) serve to highlight a poor Meg - if I find that the most enjoyable read out of the whole package is a 20 year old reprint of a B-list strip, then you have to question what's in the main magazine.
On those occasions I'd rather come away with something than nothing.
The free 'floppie' is what tipped the balance as regards to my first purchase of the Megazine. Admittedly 'some' of the reprints have been of 'less than stellar' stories, but I still the floppy as a very much welcome addition to the Meg!
Cheers
Its a price I'm prepared to pay for the continuation of the Meg. A poor floppy and Sexy Ostriches together tho does make me wonder why I bother sometimes mind.
Love the bagged floppies.
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 18 December, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
Love the bagged floppies.
Yeah same, recent Ratfink and Marauder most enjoyable. Looking forward to getting stuck in to Disaster 1990 over the next couple days for some old school vibes
As a new reader i have to say i love the floppies! I get to read stuff which i would not have known about. The last few floppies have been very good, especially Ratfink which i thought was superb, and Finn. Anyway, if you dont like the floppy you dont have to read it. Simple as that. But personally i gotta say i like 'em!
keep em coming, I say.
With the notable exception of Death Planet, I've enjoyed reading them. Things which I never enjoyed at the time are so much better collected (Gibbons Rogue?), and often if its one character their collected tales mean we can follow their development: Ratfink, especially when it links to stories in the megazine.
I do think the Rebellion is missing a trick by facing these inward when they are bagged, face out would mean punters could see what the bonus was, might hook in a couple o waverers.
the only problem,i think, with them is that you're not gonna get the best stories.
cause theyre gonna be in trade.
so, unless youre a big fan of some obscure story they arent gonna put in trade. your gonna love the floppie.
would also like to see them not running the same story concurently.
three months of mercy heights then two of tor cyan were a real slog.
I've read all but one of them and usually read them before bed and then store them. I agree with Proudhuff, that they should be facing outwards, especially as many of the covers are very enticing!
Quote from: Proudhuff on 18 December, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
With the notable exception of Death Planet
Had a fantastic cover though. Worth the price of admission for that alone.
I thoroughly enjoyed re-reading Death Planet. It was a product of its time, but no worse that, say, Futureworld or whatever the Westworld sequel was called.
I love the floppies; more so when it's something I know won't get collected elsewhere - Death Planet, Disaster 1990 and their ilk remind me of simpler times...
I must admit that on the rare occasions that I do purchase the Meg it's usually only because I want the bagged floppie.
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 18 December, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
I must admit that on the rare occasions that I do purchase the Meg it's usually only because I want the bagged floppie.
Likewise. I don't buy the Meg anymore (endless Tank Girl was the final nail in the coffin for me) but I pick up back issues for the floppies - it's nice to have cheap, complete collections of the likes of Deadlock, Ratfink, Strontium Dogs, etc.
Sorry, not a fan of them, but that's probably because a) I've got a full set of progs so already have everything that turns up in them. and b) I've got nowhere to put the bloody things
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price), but I'm obviously in a minority on that. And as someone else said, if they're the price to pay for the continued existence of the Meg, then fair enough. (and Pye's covers for Death Planet and Disaster 1990 were great)
Quote from: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't
have to keep them.
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Quote from: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
Personally, I only keep the ones I actually enjoy and chuck any that are a bit ropey.
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Quote from: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.
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Quote from: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
I never said it made sense....
Can't quite bring myself to throw away something from the House of Tharg. My house would be a lot tidier if I could
I like them too, I rarely read them when I get them, but pick them up when im at a loss for something to read, and im usually surprised at how much I enjoyed them.
I run hot and cold on them. On a good month i bemoan that im not able to show my support for the brand by giving tharg cash for the same material between marginally more rigid covers. On a bad month i just dont read them and pack them away. Im not sure how long-term my storage of them will be as the paperstock seems so flimsy it bubbles if there's moisture in the air even. I have a feeling that given a wifely ultimatum, they'd be first to go.
However, if it adds to the perceived value of The Meg, encourages newer readers than myself, and keeps it on the shelves, I'll happily keep stacking them. One day they'll get The Meg exactly right for me (closest: back when it had a spine) and it will last two perfect issues before being cancelled and crumbling to dust, as everything perfect in my life seems to do. And then I will cry. But until then, whatever it takes to keep it around is fine by me.
SBT
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 19 December, 2012, 11:46:34 PMIm not sure how long-term my storage of them will be as the paperstock seems so flimsy it bubbles if there's moisture in the air even.
yeah what's that all about? Where do they even get this freakishly volatile paper-like substance?
Some kind of bakery suppliers, or kitchenware outlet, is my guess.
SBT
I remember reading a copy of the mean machine one in the garden and accidentally leaving it out overnight.. By the morning most of the cover had dissapeared, I assume from dew. Ive never seen such volatile paper before.
I love them, simply they feel like an exstension of the meg for someone like me who has only been reading the prog for a few years. But of cause that just how I see it.
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 18 December, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
I must admit that on the rare occasions that I do purchase the Meg it's usually only because I want the bagged floppie.
Likewise. I purchased this months Meg, though, as I'm really feeling the loss of thrills in the gap between the Christmas prog and the start of the new year! :D
As someone who has only been on the 2000Ad bandwagon since last Christmas I have to say the freebies are very welcome-I probably won't have read the material and as others have said they help justify the hefty price of the meg. Even then I must confess I am not a regular reader.
I get the increasing impression on here that meg readers are a minority of the overall constituency-when i first joined i thought 66% that bought the prog also picked up the meg. What is the situation as a matter of interest?
I wish you guys would quit binning the floppies. Set them to one side and drop a few at the children's ward of a local hospital instead.
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 29 December, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
Set them to one side and drop a few at the children's ward of a local hospital instead.
Kids love Canon Fodder! I certainly did ;)
The floppy is the best thing about the Meg. I only buy it for the floppy.
I am a bit disappointed that Finn was started and then halted :-( I really ejoyed re reading this and would like to see the whole thing reprinted!
Personally, I would prefer if the Extreme Edition returned as well. There is some great stuff that I would love to see reprinted which is unlikely to get the GN treatment (Armoured Gideon for example).
Long live the floppy!
Just finished 331 and thought the "Disaster 1999" floppy was good dumb fun. The Megazine was a good read too. I think you get a lot of content for the £5.60 coverprice.
Quote from: Skullmo on 29 December, 2012, 04:20:33 PM
I am a bit disappointed that Finn was started and then halted :-( I really ejoyed re reading this and would like to see the whole thing reprinted!
Yeah but they did a "Vol.1" with Downlode Tales as well - I presume they'll pick Finn up again later!
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I am a bit disappointed that Finn was started and then halted :-( I really ejoyed re reading this and would like to see the whole thing reprinted!
Yeah but they did a "Vol.1" with Downlode Tales as well - I presume they'll pick Finn up again later!
Oh, I don't mind that they did not continue that :D
What are these listed on ebay as? anyone know? had a quick look but couldn't see em
If anyone has floppies that they want to get rid of PM me I would gladly take them off your hands and have loads to trade (and could even flash a few creeds).
I have been a subscriber this year, but before that I missed the Strontium Dogs reprints, the Samantha Slade and the Carl Critchlow Flesh Reprints (I prob missed a few others that would interest me too so let me know what you want rid of).
Cheers!
I really enjoy the floppies and have kept the best ones. Some I've never read before, some are a nostalgic reminder. I would love to see Firekind in there if there's never going to be a tpb version.
Static- can't you get hold of the EE reprint of Firekind?
Still available for three quid on the 2000 AD shop (http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/extreme_editions_issue_8).
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i want more downlode tales...rebellions biggest screwup since taking over was leaving those out of their graphic novel run...
They're a great opportunity to see stuff you wouldn't otherwise get a look at.
Support your Meg, good people!
Seeing as it looks unlikely Red Seas is ever going to get collected in a tpb, could we have a few floppies worth of that?
Quote from: Cthulouis on 13 January, 2013, 12:32:56 AM
Seeing as it looks unlikely Red Seas is ever going to get collected in a tpb, could we have a few floppies worth of that?
And the last two Caballistics series please.
And Time House
Am I the only one who would like to see Witch World reprinted? That started shortly after I started collecting 2000AD so it's one thats always stuck with me. Unfortunatly it ended on a mini cliffhanger that never got resolved :(
Quote from: dodsy on 16 January, 2013, 12:45:08 PM
Am I the only one who would like to see Witch World reprinted? That started shortly after I started collecting 2000AD so it's one thats always stuck with me. Unfortunatly it ended on a mini cliffhanger that never got resolved :(
They could get Gordon Rennie to write the ending as a text story :D
I didn't know that EE edition existed. Annoyingly, the button for BUY THIS won't work.
Oh Hang on it's working now....
Quote from: staticgirl on 18 January, 2013, 04:29:27 PM
Oh Hang on it's working now....
....saldy you must have bought 50 issues worth! :lol:
I must get some of those EE at some point.
Quote from: Cthulouis on 13 January, 2013, 12:32:56 AM
Seeing as it looks unlikely Red Seas is ever going to get collected in a tpb, could we have a few floppies worth of that?
Oooohh yes.
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I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.
The Megazine by itself is how much exactly? 9-10 Dollars U.S and 5-6 Pounds sterling? I have a hard enough time justifying comics are the current price of $4.00, let alone one that costs five bucks more
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Quote from: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.
The Megazine by itself is how much exactly? 9-10 Dollars U.S and 5-6 Pounds sterling? I have a hard enough time justifying comics are the current price of $4.00, let alone one that costs five bucks more
To be fair US comics are way over priced at $4.00, they're full of adverts during the comic itself and if it's a Marvel release the paper quality is awful (the pages of the latest Superior Spider-Man was actually curling over in my hands because the pages are so bloody thin).
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Quote from: oshii on 19 December, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
I'd prefer to have the option of buying a floppyless Meg (even at the same price)
Well, no disrespect intended, but you can already do that by simply binning the floppy. You don't have to keep them.
but without the "graphic novel" it's a very expensive magazine. The only justification for the regular price hikes is all the free reprint material.
The Megazine by itself is how much exactly? 9-10 Dollars U.S and 5-6 Pounds sterling? I have a hard enough time justifying comics are the current price of $4.00, let alone one that costs five bucks more
To be fair US comics are way over priced at $4.00, they're full of adverts during the comic itself and if it's a Marvel release the paper quality is awful (the pages of the latest Superior Spider-Man was actually curling over in my hands because the pages are so bloody thin).
It's been well over a decade since I've been into comics and I'm so used to typical newspaper stock that the newer paper is rather disorienting
i like the floppies they do vary in quality though the first few we got was a jock dredd one ,bad manners etc and i enjoyed those and i think they should continue to release the one off dredds as them as its unlikey theyll get a trade , death planet was good i missed it the first time round as i did disater 1990 but that one can stay sunk for me...
weve nagged pleaded and promised roger's mom to tharg for return to armageddon but he aint listening and i would champion the metro dredds to be bundled... you cant please all of the people etc... but at least he's giving us something to get our teeth into.
I'd second a Metro Dredd collection for the floppies but I would really love a complete Daily Star Dredd phonebook.
Quote from: judda fett on 09 February, 2013, 05:24:03 PM
I'd second a Metro Dredd collection for the floppies but I would really love a complete Daily Star Dredd phonebook.
Now, see, I'd buy a Meg just for that. Those collected editions of the Daily Star strips are fairly hard to come by these days
As a relative newbie to 2000 AD (relative in that I've only bee reading it a few years, rather than most of my life like many of you) I welcome the presence of the floppies. A mixed bunch in terms of like/dislike but that's normal anyway for stories.
I particularly liked Downlode Tales from a couple of months back. Recognizable Sinister/Dexter world (although if there was doubt, the title of the strip and the lads actually turning up in a couple of strips was a big giveaway) but the noirish tone was very different and welcome. (I like the tone of Sinister/Dexter too, I just like variety.) I hope they did more that will be collected.
The Savage 'Disaster 1999' one... not so much. It was readable and entertaining in places but wasn't really my cup of tea. I am curious as to Savage's character though. He seems rather different to the version from Savage. Obviously he's been through a lot since then, (death of his wife being the main one.) so this could be put down to character development, but I'm curious if the different authors had a role here. Was the version from Invasion! closer to the current Savage strip?
there was a long run of barrel scrapings for a bit, but I've enjoyed Disaster
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I'd second a Metro Dredd collection for the floppies but I would really love a complete Daily Star Dredd phonebook.
Now, see, I'd buy a Meg just for that. Those collected editions of the Daily Star strips are fairly hard to come by these days
Metro Dredds would warrant a floppy as there weren't as many as the Daily Star ones. They would need a phonebook to be done justice.
Id like to see a floppy of star scans, sci fi special stuff and extraneous things that wouldn't make other volumes. A floppy doesnt always need to be strips right?
I'd like to see Rogan's run on Strontium Dogs & Durham Red to bring the floppies up to the Durham Red GNs.
I second this - the floppies did seem to be heading this way but then stopped... Can we have the rest of Strontium Dogs please Tharg?
I've just read the second part of Disaster 1990. It is be no measure what you could possibly call 'good comics', but by Drokk it's entertaining.
AHAB works well collected this month too
Quote from: Proudhuff on 18 February, 2013, 03:30:13 PM
AHAB works well collected this month too
I'd love to hear more thoughts on this months floppy from you guys, either here or in the Meg thread.
I'd never read it before and quite enjoyed it - 2000AD does Moby Dick. Mr. Elson's art is beautiful.
Quote from: hippynumber1 on 19 February, 2013, 08:47:21 PM
I'd never read it before and quite enjoyed it - 2000AD does Moby Dick. Mr. Elson's art is beautiful.
Sounds great! Looking forward to reading it tomorrow! :D
I wow...that Henry Flint cover is absolutely outstanding!
Oh bugger..i thought i was posting on the Meg thread.. :-\
But while i'm here might as well say that this months floppy looks great. Can't wait to get stuck in!
A.H.A.B read well as a floppy. Neat little story also.
I love the megazines floppies and I'm really enjoying Pat Mills Finn (really bring him back to 2000ad please), Pan African judges anyone?
As i said in my review over at the Megazine thread, i really loved A.H.A.B, if we can regularly get floppies as good as this months one, then i don't mind at all. I know we'll get the odd hiccup but i've generally been pleased with the output of late. And i cannot agree more - i wanna see more Finn!
I think some of the stories in the Floppies work really well and hang together better collected, but some of the art is really dated and hard to follow, the mucky colours and oddly drawn boy people can make it all a bit hard on the eyes, still I like the fact that after the meg is done there's a second helping of 2K to be had.
I was glad to see more Downlode tales next month! I liked that first set. (This is my first time reading these.)
Quote from: Proudhuff on 05 March, 2013, 03:02:35 PM
still I like the fact that after the meg is done there's a second helping of 2K to be had.
Well put Mr Huff! It's like finding that last broken biscuit wedged at the bottom of the packet.
Personally I'm not a massive fan since they are duplicating stuff I already own. That said I accept it as the price of the meg and the fact that it does introduce new readers to some of the old and almost forgotten back history that is tooth. I don't think there are any that I have not at least skimmed through before setting aside and have already recycled one batch to pastures new.
[ I now have about 16 months worth up for grabs if anyone is interested (from 318 on). Feel free to PM with requests. All you have to cover is postage. ]
We're getting 2 volumes of Black Light after Downlode Tales and not Finn it seems. I was AWOL for this one first time round. Any good ?
Depends. Did you enjoy The X Files?
Never head of Black Light before. What's that all about then?
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 25 March, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
Never head of Black Light before. What's that all about then?
I've been looking online and couldn't really find anything on it, unfortunately. It involves a woman called Emma Paris who must be a secret agent or assassin or something. It's by Dan Abnett; artwork by Steve Yeowell and John Burns. Any other info welcome!
Oh, this should of some help!
http://progslog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/prog-1011-011096.html?m=1
Quote from: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 10:26:33 PM
Oh, this should of some help!
http://progslog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/prog-1011-011096.html?m=1
Thanks for that Mabs. :D
http://www.2000ad.org/thrillpower/2kad1.html
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Quote from: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 10:26:33 PM
Oh, this should of some help!
http://progslog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/prog-1011-011096.html?m=1
Thanks for that Mabs. :D
No problem, Tim! Sounds quite interesting if you ask me. That said i would love to have seen the second part of Finn much earlier.
What about a floppy of all the old funny one page strips they used to do
Black Light almost became a TV show. A TV pilot was in pre-production (I think). It was years back when the Dredd movies 'Possession' and 'Reckoning' were being spoken about. I seem to recall something about Rogue Trooper and a German production company too.
Googling as I post, I find that the Black Light show is mentioned by a former Tharg here:
http://viciousimagery.blogspot.ie/2007/02/28-days-of-2000-ad-151-dark-bish-op-pt.html
...maybe the Rogue Trooper thing was a dream. I also recall owning a pet unicorn at the time.
Quote from: Mabs on 25 March, 2013, 11:07:18 PM
That said i would love to have seen the second part of Finn much earlier.
Apologies if you actually know this and I'm teaching my granny how to suck eggs but I think you, and possibly others, are misconstruing the naming of some of the recent floppies.
First we had Disaster 1990 Books 1 and 2. Disaster 1990 was a single story reprinted over two months because of its length.
Then there's Downlode Tales Books 1, 2 and 3. Downlode Tales was a short lived spin off from Sinister/Dexter which was erroneously omitted from that series' TPB line. As is frequently the case with Abnett's writing, it forms a single important storyline but is made up of several shorter stories making it slightly easier to break up and stop people getting bored with the same story appearing every month as they did with Mercy Heights. [Of course, it isn't actually easier as they've had to print one story out of order and the current floppy finishes half way through the last one but hey ho.]
Finn Book 1, on the other hand, is a complete reprint of a single story called Finn Book 1. There are other Finn stories, including one called Finn Book 2 which I'm sure will see the light of day at some point down the line, but it's not quite the same thing as those others.
Again, sorry if you already knew that and just want to see Book 2 reprinted. As an egomaniacal bonus, here's my thoughts on Interventions (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=33711.0), when I read it a couple of years ago.
Ah, interesting - that i did not know. And might i add, a very informative read in the link too, mate. Thanks for clearing that up.
Did a bit of searching and found a single Cal-Hab Justice story has been reproduced in floppie format. I'm quite keen to look into the series so is it worth asking if the entire run will see reprint?
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Did a bit of searching and found a single Cal-Hab Justice story has been reproduced in floppie format. I'm quite keen to look into the series so is it worth asking if the entire run will see reprint?
I don't remember it being any good, but if there's one thing this forum's taught me it's that
Cal-Hab Justice will be someone's very favourite story of all time. It started off as a whimsical judge from another country story
(what if Billy Connolly was a judge?) with nice John Ridgeway art, then turned into some kind of odd psychic drama about corruption, with art which was an acquired taste (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1sErybAqabg/R4MyEnB_xXI/AAAAAAAAABI/u2mrS1uJLO4/s400/brunch+and+poetry.jpg). Maybe I'm just being over-critical because it was Scottish, but it's one of the few stories I can remember starting to skip without reading.
I like the idea of them, but not a huge fan of the format. They always feel a little too...flimsy. When I first heard the Megazine was going to come with a free mini GN every month, I really hoped they'd have proper card covers, like real GNs, but I guess that would've push the price of the Meg up beyond acceptable levels. The Extreme Editions kind of had the same problem, but at least with those they had the benefit of being able to reprint the art at a decent size.
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Did a bit of searching and found a single Cal-Hab Justice story has been reproduced in floppie format. I'm quite keen to look into the series so is it worth asking if the entire run will see reprint?
I don't remember it being any good, but if there's one thing this forum's taught me it's that Cal-Hab Justice will be someone's very favourite story of all time. It started off as a whimsical judge from another country story (what if Billy Connolly was a judge?) with nice John Ridgeway art, then turned into some kind of odd psychic drama about corruption, with art which was an acquired taste (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1sErybAqabg/R4MyEnB_xXI/AAAAAAAAABI/u2mrS1uJLO4/s400/brunch+and+poetry.jpg). Maybe I'm just being over-critical because it was Scottish, but it's one of the few stories I can remember starting to skip without reading.
I do like the sound of it and have a thing for shorter lived and less well known Dredd world titles. Also, heratige is kinda obscuring my thoughts and I might think the concept is pish. Regardless i'd still give it a shot.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 February, 2013, 03:47:05 PM
I've just read the second part of Disaster 1990. It is be no measure what you could possibly call 'good comics', but by Drokk it's entertaining.
Sorry, jus t catching up on this thread.
This quote is what the floppies are for if you are an old timer like me. I remember these stories the first time around and my seven year old self loved them. I know they are not good by today's standards, same way that the original battle star galactica or knight rider are now rubbish. But I loved them when I were a kid.
As a bonus, if you've never read them then they are a nostalgic info-blast of 2000ad history.
And they keep the Meg viable.
All in all, everyone is a winner.
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Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 February, 2013, 03:47:05 PM
I've just read the second part of Disaster 1990. It is be no measure what you could possibly call 'good comics', but by Drokk it's entertaining.
Sorry, jus t catching up on this thread.
This quote is what the floppies are for if you are an old timer like me. I remember these stories the first time around and my seven year old self loved them. I know they are not good by today's standards, same way that the original battle star galactica or knight rider are now rubbish. But I loved them when I were a kid.
As a bonus, if you've never read them then they are a nostalgic info-blast of 2000ad history.
And they keep the Meg viable.
All in all, everyone is a winner.
I'd agree except that Downlode tales seems a drop in class from Invasion 1990
Quote from: Proudhuff on 16 April, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
I'd agree except that Downlode tales seems a drop in class from Invasion 1990
YOU WHAT, I SAY, I SAY YOU WHAT I'll COME UP THERE AND DISASTER 1990 YOUR ASS WITH THAT KINDA TALK PROUDHUFF...
... and breathe....
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 16 April, 2013, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 16 April, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
I'd agree except that Downlode tales seems a drop in class from Invasion 1990
YOU WHAT, I SAY, I SAY YOU WHAT I'll COME UP THERE AND DISASTER 1990 YOUR ASS WITH THAT KINDA TALK PROUDHUFF...
... and breathe....
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42654000/jpg/_42654619_inman_bbcpicgal2.jpg)
Comeaway in, you'll of had yer tea?!
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!
they need something to justify the price tag.
although i have been enjoying the downlode stories.
which excel whats on offer
Quote from: Skullmo on 15 May, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!
As did I.
I wonder if they'll hold up on a re-read 20 odd years later though :-\
Quote from: Skullmo on 15 May, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!
What are the zero stories if you don't mind me saying? Was it something in the mould of Tharg's 3riller and Futureshock? :-*
That last downlode tales had me laughing my arse off!
It seems to me with each Meg I look at the floppy and think - meh, leave it a week or so and then sit down and read it and I really enjoy it. I have particularly enjoyed the last couple of downlodes and ahab.
Quote from: Mabs on 15 May, 2013, 01:00:38 PM
Quote from: Skullmo on 15 May, 2013, 01:55:37 AM
Oh yes!!! I see the zero stories are coming to the floppy soon - I remember loving these!
What are the zero stories if you don't mind me saying? Was it something in the mould of Tharg's 3riller and Futureshock? :-*
Night Zero:
"Night Zero" (in 2000 AD #607-616, December 1988 - March 1989)
"Beyond Zero" (in 2000 AD #630-634, 645-649 and 665-666, June 1989 - February 1990)
"Lost in Zero" (in 2000 AD Annual 1991, September 1990)
"Below Zero" (in 2000 AD #731-745, May–August 1991)
From memory it was a really well written SF series. I really enjoyed reading them first time around and have been waiting for a reprint!
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=tanner
Interesting stuff, Skullmo. Thanks!
I read all of the Night Zero stories not that long back. The first two struggled a little, were a bit generic while strangely trying to do too much that was different, but the art was nice. I enjoyed the third series Below Zero a lot more, but alas then it got canned (or whatever its fate was), just as it was getting good.
I was the other way around - I really liked the first two (particularly the second one, though it may just have picked up some reflected glory from the fact that it was in the prog at the same time as Zenith, Cinnabar and Bisley-era Slaine - what a line-up!) but was not keen at all on the third. The art was indeed consistently good though.
Quote from: Greg M. on 15 May, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
The art was indeed consistently good though.
I really liked Kev Hopgoods art too, and as you mention, coming from that era in 2000AD that was saying something.
Shame he never did much work for the Prog.
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?
Quote from: dodsy on 20 May, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?
It was terrible! :)
Quote from: dodsy on 20 May, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?
I was looking on the 2000ad org site recently at what floppies had already come out - 'The best of pulp sci-fi' was released with Meg 296. Not read it myself, so I won't comment on the quality of content!
Quote from: Skullmo on 20 May, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: dodsy on 20 May, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
I'm currently going through my back progs with the intention of selling a load and replacing them with the Trades/ "Floppies" of my favs to save some room. A character I'd totally forgotten about but would love to see reprinted in a "floppie" is Rose O'Rion from Pulp Sci-Fi/ her own series.
As far as I can remeber it was a fun thrill. Anyone agree?
It was terrible! :)
Was it that bad? I think I remember the first off of being good but could be wrong about the solo series.
Next month is Google Car Roadkill. Hurrah!
Since my last idea was poo-pooed ( :lol: ) how about a Lobster Random collection? I think it was only ever the first series that was collected, it would have to include the series it [spoiler]crossed over with[/spoiler] but I can't remeber the name of the top of my head.
[spoiler]The Vort[/spoiler] ;)
I say it a lot, but its absurd that we haven't had a proper Lobster Random soft cover trade. Also needs another series.
Its too great to be relegated to Meg Floppy status.
Though I would take a complete digital edition. hint hint wink wink
Quote from: The Adventurer on 04 June, 2013, 10:33:04 PM
I say it a lot, but its absurd that we haven't had a proper Lobster Random soft cover trade. Also needs another series.
Its too great to be relegated to Meg Floppy status.
Though I would take a complete digital edition. hint hint wink wink
Glad I'm not the only one. I'll admint I'd kind of forgotten about Lobster Random until I picked up the first series in hard back from Forbidden Plant in Manchester for £2.50 (That alone probably explains why we haven't seen the other series collected).
Really enjoyed re-reading it and plan to dig out the bag progs to read the rest of the series.
I'm starting to think that most people stick the floppies in the bin going off how many people I've messaged on ebay when trying to fill gaps in my collection.
Getting hold of a complete meg outside of the 2000 ad store is mission impossible.
It's the people that split the floppy from the Meg and sell them separately that gets me. Keep an eye on the classifieds on the forum. I now own every Meg from Volume 5 (201 onwards) and I got them from three different forum members, all of whom included the floppy. They were in fantastic condition and much cheaper than eBay.
I have a spare 331 with floppy if that's of use?
Quote from: SimeonB on 23 July, 2013, 09:54:21 PM
It's the people that split the floppy from the Meg and sell them separately that gets me. Keep an eye on the classifieds on the forum. I now own every Meg from Volume 5 (201 onwards) and I got them from three different forum members, all of whom included the floppy. They were in fantastic condition and much cheaper than eBay.
I have a spare 331 with floppy if that's of use?
Splitting floppies! Do people not take heed of the "not for resale" warning?! Tharg will not be pleased. Got 331 cheers for the offer though, I've got a gap of 327 at the mo and as much as it's killing me I've already spent too much on a combination of back issues and bags & boards this month to fill it right now.
Quote from: The Adventurer on 04 June, 2013, 10:33:04 PM
... Its too great to be relegated to Meg Floppy status...
Whilst I DO understand that view- if the good stuff doesn't get into the floppies, what does that leave for the floppies?
The meh & pish stuff?
If that's the case, and now that the GN line is well and truly improved, might it be an idea to just drop the floppies altogether? I see no point in grinding out the stuff that few liked just to fill a floppy.
nah it's still a good idea - there's loads of stuff that just isn't commercially viable for a TPB release, but still has a lot of love amongst the fans - Night Zero being a case in point. I love the fact that this stuff is being given away to Meg readers 'free', sdo new readers get to enjoy old thrills for the first time, and we get a nice nostalgiathrillboost (yes, that IS a word).
Lobster Random has potential for an actual TPB, but there are still loads of gems in the thrill vaults - Mach 1 and Mach 0 for example.
Sheldipez - I'm no completest, and I'bve gor all the original progs, so which is the 327 floppy? Unless it's a particular favourite, I may be able to part with mine.
327 is Marauder (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/10/109303/2525513-comic_0001.jpg)
He looks like some weird superhero to me
Well- whilst there have been a few good ones, less than half of mine have been read.
And I recall a substantial price rise upon their inclusion, so they might be cheap, but they sure aren't 'free'.
That's an old argument though- I'm not really caring about new readers getting to read old stuff tbh- I'm more interested in not sticking away a complete comic, completely unread, month after month. This has been especially irritating alongside Sexy Ostriches infinity-arcs, as it means month on month I keep shelling out for very little comic. At it's lowest common denominator, it makes little sense for me.
As I said- there have been a few really good ones I was glad of.
Still preferred Extreme Editions though- I liked the larger format and it allowed for choice- if people didn't like it, they didn't have to buy it which afforded some measure of quality control- apparently proved by the readers voting with their feet over the Mean Arena run of 3 back to back (which pales into insignificance next to the 4-issue snore-fest that was the Mercy Heights run*). The GN's seem to have removed that option and, for me, the quality plunged very quickly- leaving me with little I can do about it except either whine about it at every turn or stop getting my Meg.
*I can't help but feel that if this had been done in EE's they would only have gotten half ways through before the title collapsed. A more cynical man might see some sort of corporate dirty trick in there... ;)
the price rise vs floppies argument has been done to death, which is why I put 'free' in inverted commas. The cost saving of not doing the floppies wouldn't reduce the cover price much, or pay for new original strips, so I think it's worthwhile. If they get chucked away unread, donate them to somewhere and spread the word of thrillpower!
Sheldipez - Marauder is a recent strip that I've no particular attachment to, so PM me your address and I'll dig that one out for you.
Sure- but the real argument gets diverted away from the crux of the matter by bandying about of 'facts' about the economics of it all, when the actual £'s and pence are not the real issue (If they were, I would have stopped buying the Meg by now). If we're talking economics then it would be more sensible for the consumer to save the money they spend on the Meg and buy the good stuff as GN's when they get released. All well and good right up until the Meg goes the way of Extreme Editions...
My viewpoint is merely one of concern for quality. Perfectly simple- 'I would rather see them drop it than fill it with shite, because filling it with shite may affect the Meg's readership figures' is all I'm saying. I can't see any logic in doing that from either Rebellion's POV or the readers. Why reprint the stories that nearly buried the parent comic? The Meg has never had the readership of the weekly- why risk cutting it down by watering the quality of it with Tharg's barrel-scrapings? If Medivac 90210 was worth 4-floppy reprint, why is it not economically viable to do a GN? Because too many people know it's not worth buying, thus sales would be low?
That leaves the choice of either not reprinting it at all, or else forcing current readers to buy it along with their Meg or Prog. The floppies are more in line with the latter choice.
Granted, there are a few of them I would happily have paid way more than £1 for, but there's been soooooo many I wouldn't take off you for free. I just don't understand the argument for choosing the dross over the decent stuff when the cost of reprinting is the same for both. Would you buy a beer with pish in it just because it has a half-pint more fluid and is only 20p more expensive?
Where do we draw the line- before or after Junker, Chronos Carnival, The Mike Fleischer Collection, Blood of Satanus or , god forbid- American Reaper gets floppied? Or are we not to draw a line at all- just buy it, smile and say 'please sir can I have some more pish in my beer'?
There's nothing at all unreasonable in a consumer having concerns over value for money- it's no less reasonable than a commercial company desiring to maximise their profit- these are the balancing factors in any market. I don't think 'make them good, or get rid of them' is a particularly polar viewpoint and it's a perfectly valid one. Whilst it may not be your view personally, there's no merit in tying to brush it aside as nonsense.
To mis-quote Forrest Gump - "The Meg floppy is like a box of chocolates...". One man's coffee cream (yuck) is another man's caramel swirl (mmmm - caramel....). I enjoyed AHAB, Night Zero, Marauder and Disaster 1990 to name a few. Others may have detested them all. But I am a returning Squaxx, so have no history with most of them. I also have a dreadful memory for comics, so even something like Disaster 1990 which I probably read the first time round I enjoyed as if it were brand new to me.
I don't think the pish in beer analogy works, Dog. You are saying it pollutes the whole thing. The Meg still carries four strips, interviews and articles. And its the same with every comic anthology, different will people will enjoy the different parts of it - well - differently! Hence the American Reaper "marmite" discussions of late... I much prefer to think of it as the box of chocolates. I always chuck out the coffee creams because they are the work of Satan - others will disagree...
Quote from: Dandontdare on 23 July, 2013, 10:38:27 PM
Lobster Random has potential for an actual TPB, but there are still loads of gems in the thrill vaults - Mach 1 and Mach 0 for example.
Yeah and since Si Spurrier is starting to make a name for himself in the States maybe it could get a US release?
...then he'd come back and write us some more too!
Quote from: Dandontdare on 24 July, 2013, 12:54:45 AM
Sheldipez - Marauder is a recent strip that I've no particular attachment to, so PM me your address and I'll dig that one out for you.
Quote from: SimeonB on 24 July, 2013, 06:47:55 AM
To mis-quote Forrest Gump - "The Meg floppy is like a box of chocolates...". One man's coffee cream (yuck) is another man's caramel swirl (mmmm - caramel....). I enjoyed AHAB, Night Zero, Marauder and Disaster 1990 to name a few. Others may have detested them all. But I am a returning Squaxx, so have no history with most of them. I also have a dreadful memory for comics, so even something like Disaster 1990 which I probably read the first time round I enjoyed as if it were brand new to me.
As a newcomer to 2000ad (early 2012 -I've since caught up with most of 2011) I have to agree. I've read some criticism of the floppy bundled each month often to read it myself and to come away thinking "that was a lot of fun" even when the material has been a bit dumb (the story from this month's for e.g. but some nice art - and a fun ride). Disaster 1990 took a bit of a bit of a battering on here yet I thought it was a nice romp and a nice bit of Savage backstory that would of been too costly to hunt down old progs for.
I see the point of peeps that have been with the prog since the early days, even the beginning (how I envy you) and you automatically think "not THAT strip AGAIN" but as a reader it's really appreciated.
There's a bunch of well received stuff in the prog that struggle to shift a great deal of copies of graphic novels like Red Seas (Dante was even name dropped on the recent ECBT2000AD podcast when asked about Dante case files) so you have to appreciate how much of these b strips would die on their arse.
I guess what I'm saying is that 2000ad has a lot history (mediocre or otherwise) and it's good that it doesn't all die in long time fans' memories or in over priced progs on ebay.
In short, I would always choose having the 'floppies' over not! I enjoy the cheesy old strips, I like that this stuff is unlikely to get collected otherwise, I'm pleasantly surprised by some of the newer stuff that I haven't read and, ultimately, if I don't like it, there's always next month. I was an EE subscriber and was sorry to see it go, the floppies make up for its absence, and I enjoyed both 'Mean Arena' and 'Mercy Heights'
Quote from: hippynumber1 on 09 August, 2013, 04:02:28 PM
In short, I would always choose having the 'floppies' over not! I enjoy the cheesy old strips, I like that this stuff is unlikely to get collected otherwise, I'm pleasantly surprised by some of the newer stuff that I haven't read and, ultimately, if I don't like it, there's always next month. I was an EE subscriber and was sorry to see it go, the floppies make up for its absence, and I enjoyed both 'Mean Arena' and 'Mercy Heights'
I concur; I finished Mercy Heights Book 4 last night and I enjoyed it immensly. Some of the artwork on show especially from Kev Walker is
outstanding. I'm also reading Tor Cyan right now, again some great stuff from Kev and Colin Wilson. I mean just check out this page from Kev;
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/20130810_115916.jpg)
Wow.
One thing I've noticed on my Meg Odyssey is that's the early Megs had introductions to the stories in the reprint section (called Gold and pre-dating the bundled floppy). I find this enhances my enjoyment of the story, knowing a bit about where it came from, whether it was a follow up to a previous story and so on. As an example, the Slaine Time Killer story that was reprinted talked about the previous Slaine stories and a bit about how Slaine came into being.
In recent Megs, you get chucked in at the deep end a bit. Do I need to have read Nemesis in order to appreciate the Deadlock floppy, for example? If so, a quick synopsis would help new readers like me...
I think it would really enhance the floppy to have some context about the story. If the team do not have time to write one I would be happy to research and write one for free to include as I seem to know everything anyway!
I like supporting the Meg, and for me a floppy makes me happy!
Quote from: Mabs on 10 August, 2013, 12:03:35 PM
I mean just check out this page from Kev;
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/20130810_115916.jpg)
Wow.
Yeah we need Kev back on Dredd, his post DoC Megacity in the rain would be a doozie!
Love Kev Walker's artworks, one of my fave 2000AD artists, check his Future Shock Red Moon, and one of my fave Dredd stories, Mandroid Book 1.
(http://www.2000adonline.com/books/assets/covers/judge_dredd_mandroid.jpg)
Here a brilliant image from Mandroid by Kev Walker;
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llwekv4Ooc1qi8laso1_500.jpg)
Has he every done a interrogation in the Meg? don't remember it if he did, but i would like to see him back under Tharg's whip!
Meg 290 according to BARNEY. Thought I had seen it in the big pile I have in my house :)
I personally love the floppies. Reading Detonator X today and well, after Pacific Rim I am even happier with this strip than I was the first time round. Night Zero was something I'd never come across and it was grand. I even enjoyed Disaster (as hokey as it was in comparison to Savage proper). And Mercy Heights is actually one of my favourite concepts and well, in a muddy way, Tor is what I think Rogue became.
They started just as I got my first megazine and they've been a big part in why I carried on buying it, even when my funds were getting very low. I don't like all of the stuff collected but then the hit rate is much better than the 9 months of DC's new 52 I tried before abandoning them - that was 20+ pages of no thrill power each issue.
Anyone know what floppies are on the horizon?
They are great - I read night zero last night - a brill story!
I seem to be on perpetual catch-up with the Meg - finally read Night Zero - and I *really* enjoyed it - the first time I've enjoyed a bundled floppy in a very long time.
I've been very much "meh" on the bundled floppies for a very long time, both for series I've read before and series that are new to me - but for some rease Night Zero just clicked - some decent old-skool fun.
Just hope the sequel floppy (Beyond Zero) is as much fun!
I read Disaster 1990 last night - wow, almost every page was a WTF moment! I loved it!
Beyond Zero - how does post-apocalyptic pirate zeppelin raiders grab your fancy?
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 30 October, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
Beyond Zero - how does post-apocalyptic pirate zeppelin raiders grab your fancy?
Well, if you put it like that... :thumbsup:
I'm looking forward to reading the Di Marco floppy. Maybe it'll tell me why she was hanging out with the Gorilla that got killed in Trifecta
Quote from: Judge Brian on 28 November, 2013, 06:07:02 AM
I'm looking forward to reading the Di Marco floppy. Maybe it'll tell me why she was hanging out with the Gorilla that got killed in Trifecta
There's a DeMarco floppie coming? When is that do we know?
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 28 November, 2013, 06:12:52 AM
Quote from: Judge Brian on 28 November, 2013, 06:07:02 AM
I'm looking forward to reading the Di Marco floppy. Maybe it'll tell me why she was hanging out with the Gorilla that got killed in Trifecta
There's a DeMarco floppie coming? When is that do we know?
December, with Meg #343! :)
Cool! Will defo be picking that one up.
See its all in the floppie for me then it seems. A good floppy makes the Meg a great deal. Since I have most of the stuff though its otherwise too expensive for the content. Anyway nice to pick up a copy to re-evaluate that though.
Quote from: jackstarr on 29 October, 2013, 07:46:31 PM
I seem to be on perpetual catch-up with the Meg - finally read Night Zero - and I *really* enjoyed it - the first time I've enjoyed a bundled floppy in a very long time.
It's the exception. And I agree completely. I think the bundled second/third rate stories really need to be humanely nudged towards The Long Walk. Off a Short Pier. I actually resent the time reading these ('cos if I buy it, I WILL read it).
well I think they are great! Not a waste of the and they are what keeps me buying the Meg really!
But the Meg's been pretty damn fine recently? No?
It's pretty good - but I do enjoy having a whole story - I don't really like reading stories in parts, having a full (or large chunk of) classic 2000ad tale keeps me going until the various meg series has finished and I read them.
Keep the floppy!
If people don't like it they don't have to read it; 'getting rid' of it entirely would be a massive mistake.
Cheers
Quote from: Skullmo on 29 November, 2013, 11:57:22 PM
well I think they are great! Not a waste of the and they are what keeps me buying the Meg really!
Rightly said, Skullmo! I couldn't agree more. :thumbsup:
Quote from: NapalmKev on 30 November, 2013, 07:15:28 AM
If people don't like it they don't have to read it; 'getting rid' of it entirely would be a massive mistake.
^This. Absolutely.
Have they ever done the second book of FINN? I guess that's the only way we are likely to see it in a readable bookshelf format? Or do I have to take scissors to the progs before I chuck them all out?
SBT
We're still waiting for the second book. I hope it's not too long before we see it as I loved the first one.
I like the floppies, but then again I haven't read most of them before.
It was a nice surprise getting Lobster Random this month's. I read it thinking, "Is this the first story?"
Then the next day the Lobster Random volume turned up in a package along with a couple of other books (Necronauts and the first Durham Red collection). I'd forgotten I'd ordered it! So another surprise.
I second more Finn. All books of Finn please oh Meg Gods.
And Timehouse.
And that Adrian Salmon story from the Meg with Shakespeare - I remember that was better than it looked like it was going to be.
And Pandora too :)
I think that is the beauty of the 'floppies' that stuff that would be a hard sell or difficult to re-print on it's own is reaching a new audience who may have missed it the first time around. Hopefully it will also encurage some new stories from some forgotten favs if they are well recieved.
I was really pleased to see the 2nd Lobster story getting a reprint and fingers crossed the rest will soon.
As so often, I find myself in a tiny minority :o
Just leapt back to the thread's beginnings and yup, these floppy things are popular all over...
Let's keep them!
(I'll revise my 'exception' comment. I've known two. Disaster 1990 and Night Zero were both good fun).
In need of something to read this week, I've been revisiting my pile of floppies. Mercy heights was far better than I remembered it when read through in one go, although Tor Cyan was a bit of a one-note spin-off. One thing struck me though - Tor Cyan must be the WORST shuttle pilot in the galaxy! Every single craft that he pilots over the course of five volumes either blows up, or more usually, crashes into a planet. NEVER FLY WITH THIS MAN!
Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 December, 2013, 09:18:15 AM
In need of something to read this week, I've been revisiting my pile of floppies. Mercy heights was far better than I remembered it when read through in one go,
My thoughts exactly. I first read Mercy Heights in the Prog and didn't really think much of it. As a collection it stands up pretty well.
Cheers
A bit of a resurrection but seemed like a good place to say I really enjoyed the latest floppie. Rose O'Rion wasn't a character I'd ever come across and it was good, simple fun.
What was the name of that story where a dwarf and a girl are on a starcruiser and get themselves dumped on a prison planet? Was that Rose too? That was a story that was underway when I started collecting so it's all a bit hazy.
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Quote from: James Stacey on 27 November, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Actualy I Was talking to Mr.Fraser on deviantart recently and he said he jntends to continue to second series soon and will hopefully get both stories collected in a trade by....someone.
never mind a floppie back issue I wants the new stuff!
Lily Mackenzie, thank you.
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 27 November, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 27 November, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Actualy I Was talking to Mr.Fraser on deviantart recently and he said he jntends to continue to second series soon and will hopefully get both stories collected in a trade by....someone.
Like a certain someone who collected Numbercruncher and Ordinary?
keep them in I say, it's probably the only way some of the titles will be reprinted although there has'nt been many i have cared for. I'd like to see brigand doom and luke kirby get reprinted. I doubt there will ever be a complete canon fodder trade paperback so i am glad of them.
I am new to the magazine and I love these 'floppies'. I like it that they are one or more complete stories nicely collected and the ones I have found have all been stuff that is new to me. Is there anyway to get hold of back issues of these 'floppies'? I have tried looking on eBay for them but not found anything.
There is a fairly up to date list of them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements)
I would love to get them all.
Quote from: Ancient Otter on 29 November, 2014, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 27 November, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 27 November, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
Lilly Mackenzie ?
Actualy I Was talking to Mr.Fraser on deviantart recently and he said he jntends to continue to second series soon and will hopefully get both stories collected in a trade by....someone.
Like a certain someone who collected Numbercruncher and Ordinary?
Considering the work Mr.Fraser has done for Titan recently i'd say it's the best bet. Plus, as you point out, it's the stommping ground for collected editions of Meg Creator Owned material.
I'd like to add my voice to the argument for finishing off partially-floppied sagas!
The CalHab floppy just landed here in NZ (we missed it for the referendum but it made it here via surface mail just in time for St Andrew's Day!) and, well, it ends just as things get a little more interesting (YMMV of course.)
Will there be any more, or was that subject to the Yes or No vote as well? ;)
Ohhh boy calhab justice that series started off sonwell...
Quote from: WhizzBang on 30 November, 2014, 09:02:46 AM
I am new to the magazine and I love these 'floppies'. I like it that they are one or more complete stories nicely collected and the ones I have found have all been stuff that is new to me. Is there anyway to get hold of back issues of these 'floppies'? I have tried looking on eBay for them but not found anything.
There is a fairly up to date list of them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements)
I would love to get them all.
I've got a track going begging. Not all but a lot of them. No use to me as my collection is
complete.
Quote from: WhizzBang on 30 November, 2014, 09:02:46 AM
There is a fairly up to date list of them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd_Megazine#Supplements)
Even more up-to-date now ;)
I enjoy the floppies personally - true, some months are better than others and there have been some I haven't enjoyed at all, but I've always been glad to have had the chance to revisit that stuff.
I read digitally so even if it's a month I don't like it's not like it's taking up any physical space or anything, can't really see any argument against them that makes sense to be honest (particularly if they're not adding to the cost of the Meg in any significant way).
I'd like to add another vote to sequel-floppies for previously flopped thrills.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 29 January, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
I enjoy the floppies personally - true, some months are better than others and there have been some I haven't enjoyed at all, but I've always been glad to have had the chance to revisit that stuff.
I read digitally so even if it's a month I don't like it's not like it's taking up any physical space or anything, can't really see any argument against them that makes sense to be honest (particularly if they're not adding to the cost of the Meg in any significant way).
Hmmm..I was always thought they
did add to the cost. I seem to remember the Meg went up in price when they started. I almost never read them these days as I just don't have the time and I think it is right to say in all the time they have been doing them only once or twice did it feature something I haven't read before - but that goes hand in hand with being a long time reader :)
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price. I remain in the "graceful exit" camp, but judging from comments that may be the minority and it continues to make sense for Rebellion.
And just wanted to say that for perhaps the 3rd time only, I enjoyed the floppy tonight (titter ye not). Red Fang rattled along and looked great. More Steve Moore, if possible...
Most of the cost in a publication like the Meg is in the production, not the printing. Get rid of the floppy and the cover price might be able to drop a bit, but it wouldn't be by much, but the effective page count per month would have been knifed.
Lets face it, the quality has been pretty poor over the last few years in the floppy & I'm feeling a bit disconteded by having only 3-4 new strips in the Meg - the rest filler - while over at 2000ad at least I get 5 for less money!
Ditch the floppy - I'd like the space in the meg to be used for new & upcoming strips & creators like it used to. There is so much more in that direction I feel to better the Meg.
Si
Keep the Floppy!
How about using it (on occasion) to showcase new talent? Sure, they wouldn't get paid much but it could be a chance to see your own work in Print, and maybe lead to bigger and better things in the future. I'd write something and give it for free just to see my name in print as a "Creator".
Yeah, I know; Crap Idea!
Cheers
From an entirely selfish point of view, I say keep the floppy. Yes, it's true that the vast majority get piled up unread, they do provide an easy source of strips when the mood takes me, without having to lug boxes about and unbag multiple comics, then refile them later.
Red Fang, for example, has been buzzing around my conscious for a while, and is now to hand.
While having a complete set of everything renders any and all reprints an unnecessary luxury both in terms of cost and space, at this point in my life, 38 years into buying the prog, I may as well embrace the plain fact that these things are essential to me, and just go with it.
The lack of FINN volume two, however, is a continual source of frustration.
SBT
Quote from: Fungus on 29 January, 2015, 11:27:01 PM
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price.
They don't. They were brought in to give added value to the magazine when the price had to rise due to rising production costs. Getting rid of the 'floppy' GN wouldn't bring the price down beyond a couple of pence.
Quote from: NapalmKev on 30 January, 2015, 08:23:29 AM
How about using it (on occasion) to showcase new talent?
That was tried for a period and unfortunately could not be sustained.
Quote from: Molch-R on 30 January, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: Fungus on 29 January, 2015, 11:27:01 PM
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price.
They don't. They were brought in to give added value to the magazine when the price had to rise due to rising production costs. Getting rid of the 'floppy' GN wouldn't bring the price down beyond a couple of pence.
Whether they add to the price or not they definitely add value to the package and are one of the main reasons I get the Meg as I really prefer to read a story in one book - it means every meg you get a complete tale. I think they are a great thing, even when there are issues I don't necessarily like that much I understand that taste is a subjective thing and my passion may be another person's poison.
I have been reading 2000AD regularly for years, had access to a huge back catalogue of the Megs for a few months, and would always get anything from the House of Tharg when I saw it in the library. Oh and my dad had scattered copies of Eagle, american reprints et al in the loft.
I still haven't read 99% of the strips featured in the floppies. What I'm saying is I'm not a new reader by any definition but they add huge value for me, and were a big part of my decision to start getting the Meg as well as the prog in those early days (Which coincided with their launch as a regular thing).
Quote from: Molch-R on 30 January, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: Fungus on 29 January, 2015, 11:27:01 PM
Yes, they clearly add to the cover price.
They don't. They were brought in to give added value to the magazine when the price had to rise due to rising production costs. Getting rid of the 'floppy' GN wouldn't bring the price down beyond a couple of pence.
Thanks for clearing that up - it is good to get the definitive word from one of Tharg's droids.
I had always assumed that the floppies had increased the cover price as Meg 274 was £2.99 and 275 was £4.99 and that was when the first floppy appeared, so it is good to know they don't.
As I said I don't often read them, buy hey given that they don't increase the cover price, then for me that is the end of the argument - may as well keep them.
And can I add my vote for more Finn - I
would read that. Or SinDex.
I have every:
- every prog
- every meg
- Starlord
- Crisis
- Revolver
- Lawman of the Future
very nearly every:
- Sci-fi/Winter/Mega-special
- annual
one or two copies of:
- Tornado
In short, I have just about every story which Rebellion has the rights to reprint.
Despite this, and even though I live in a typical London-sized flat and don't have a whole lot of space, I do not object to seeing the floppy every month (not even Fleisher's Harlem Heroes - though I can think of a hundred things that should have been republished first). As others have said, it's nice to be able to read a whole story each month without having to dig through ten or more comic bags in far-off boxes.
As for things I'd like to see again (which I don't think have been collected in recent graphic novels):
- a collection of Future Shocks, especially from the first decade
- I'd request the Stainless Steel Rat, but I'm guessing the estate of Harry Harrison would have something to say about that?
- some of the Tharg stories (Invasion of the Thrill-Snatchers stands out in my memory, but the box it's in is buried pretty deep at the mo, so I can't easily check)
- Ace Trucking Co
- Max Normal (not sure how many strips all those annuals and specials appearances would add up to)
- Helltrekkers
- some of the Diceman / Dice Man strips
- Metalzoic
- Luke Kirby
- another vote to complete Finn
- Revere
- finish off Calhab Justice
That should be enough to be going on with :-)
One BIG vote for a truck load of Ace Trucking Co, that would go down well when having to shell out my bimms.
Rever is a no brainer for me- it should be way up there too!
Si
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
I love the floppies even if I don't always read them
I get the Meg to read the Meg. The floppy is an added extra. It's like a lucky bag. I open up the Meg and think "I wonder what the floppy is", then am either pleasantly surprised or not. I'm never disappointed, as I don't expect anything.
That sounds like I'm damning with faint praise. I don't mean to do that. What I am getting at is that this is extra material - the cherry on top, the buscuit at the side - and if you don't like it then that's fine, as you didn't get the cake/ tea for the decoration.
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 08:03:10 AM
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?
Quote from: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 08:03:10 AM
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?
Oops - had a link all lined up and everything, then forgot to paste it:
http://www.2000adonline.com/books/ace-trucking-the-complete-vol-1.php
Quote from: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 08:03:10 AM
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?
Lets imagine you were a magician who could make things happen with a swish of your hand - would you prefer them to reprint it over multiple floppies? Or just reprint the Ace Trucking Volume 1?
You can never get enough of the Big A comin' back at ya. Z
Quote from: Skullmo on 31 January, 2015, 11:43:13 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 08:03:10 AM
Is all of Ace Trucking not in the two case files? Admittedly it'd be nice to see the annual story in colour, but beyond that..?
Ace Trucking Co Volume One was (first) published seven years ago - I don't know how available that makes it presently?
Lets imagine you were a magician who could make things happen with a swish of your hand - would you prefer them to reprint it over multiple floppies? Or just reprint the Ace Trucking Volume 1?
Personally I don't have space for bound reprints unless there's compelling bonus material included (like the 30 Years of Laughter Slaine book that came out). I may venture to my local library at some point to see if they have a copy of Ace to read, but I don't have the shelf space to buy a permanent copy. I don't throw away floppies (or give them to doctor's waiting rooms) but they're easier to store than graphic novels. So speaking very personally I'd prefer them in floppies.
My list of suggestions was more series I liked that I think should get a wider audience than those in my position where I've read them all before and have them (sort-of) to hand.
Quote from: sheridan on 31 January, 2015, 11:54:30 AM...but they're easier to store than graphic novels.
Personally I find storage is one of the big pluses of GN's over piles of slippery-covered magazines. However, I am not
ever going to be against seeing more Ace Trucking Co reprints, I think it's a brilliant series, made more so by the near-impossibility of ever getting a decent revival (not even Al Ewing and Boo Cook would manage it), and deserves a wider audience.
I am against more Ace reprints. yes, it's a great series but if you want to read it you have many options to see it - best of 2000ad, case files.
I would like to see new stories in the floppies.
Guy Adams is doing a super job on Ulysses Sweet; but who could ever replace the amazing and much missed Massimo? Z
Zen - spot on. As I recall there was (possibly) only one episode / story not drawn by Massimo (Ian Gibson did it I think) , so to me Massimo is so synonymous with Ace Trucking it would be strange to say the least to see someone else drawing it.
Now I have said I generally don't read floppies but I would read them if they had Sinister Dexter, Ace Trucking or Finn in them.
Although I don't read them, I do keep them, so storage wise I would prefer Ace Trucking in multiple floppies rather than a "case files" type release.
Basically given that the floppies are here to stay, lets have the good stuff I say.
(If we keep mentioning Finn do you think it will happen?) :lol:
I wouldn't want to see any more Ace Trucking without Massimo. Of other artists who've worked for 2000 AD, Boo Cook could probably pull the strip off, but it just wouldn't be the same.
On sheridan's list:
- a collection of Future Shocks — Nice idea. I'd happily devour collections of these.
- Stainless Steel Rat — Rights issues.
- some of the Tharg stories — Oh, man. I remember when I subbed to Best of 2000 AD and they did a Tharg issue. Calling it a nadir for that run is probably being very kind. Reading it was just painful—and that was when I was young too.
- Max Normal — Could be a nice themed thing, but I wonder if that'll be in the MC...
- Helltrekkers — That was reprinted in the Meg itself at some point, wasn't it?
- Diceman / Dice Man strips — That could be interesting, if they fit.
- Metalzoic — Owned by DC, not Rebellion.
- Luke Kirby — In rights hell, otherwise this would have happened LONG ago.
- Finn — I can't stand later Finn, but would agree this should be continued.
- Revere — I wouldn't complain about another outing for this, given that it's unlikely to ever get a trade.
- Calhab Justice — Again, not a fan, but wouldn't complain about more.
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Personally, I'd like to see Armoured Gideon continued, too. That went a bit off the boil later on, but that first floppy was a lot of fun, and the series was certainly a lot better than the likes of Harlem bloody Heroes.
- a collection of Future Shocks — Nice idea. I'd happily devour collections of these.
Yeah - me too
- Stainless Steel Rat — Rights issues.
Didnt that all get reprinted in the SSR book?
- some of the Tharg stories — Oh, man. I remember when I subbed to Best of 2000 AD and they did a Tharg issue. Calling it a nadir for that run is probably being very kind. Reading it was just painful—and that was when I was young too.
Agreed
- Revere — I wouldn't complain about another outing for this, given that it's unlikely to ever get a trade.
But . . . you can just but an extreme edition with it in from the 2000ad shop!
Personally, I'd like to see Armoured Gideon continued, too. That went a bit off the boil later on, but that first floppy was a lot of fun, and the series was certainly a lot better than the likes of Harlem bloody Heroes.
I really liked the later Armoured Gideon and would love to see it
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 31 January, 2015, 02:56:20 PM
Personally, I'd like to see Armoured Gideon continued, too. That went a bit off the boil later on, but that first floppy was a lot of fun, and the series was certainly a lot better than the likes of Harlem bloody Heroes.
Nice one - I didn't like Simon Jacobs art when it first appeared, but it developed really quickly into something I did like.
Hows about the later Rogue Trooper - reissued in a chronological order so we might be able to understand what happened & it all meant?
*stop laughing at the back there...*
:lol:
I hope they hurry up and finish Lobster Random soon! I honestly can't remeber if that thrill got a proper ending or is it one of those 'left in limbo' strips?
Quote from: Dodsy on 03 February, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
I hope they hurry up and finish Lobster Random soon! I honestly can't remeber if that thrill got a proper ending or is it one of those 'left in limbo' strips?
It stopped just as all the pieces were in place for the big, final story it had clearly been preparing for since the beginning. [spoiler]The evil Lobster-God chap broke through into our dimension, heralding many apocalyptic shenanigans.[/spoiler]
Why? :(
The highlight of it was The Vort - one of best twists in 2000AD!
I can't agree with you there, I'm afraid, Goaty. It had already been done twice and to far better effect with Dredd and Sinister Dexter (although the latter never really capitalised on it, in my book).
I enjoyed The Vort for what it was - a bloody good story... then they had to ruin it and it be about Lob... which I cannot read to save my life...
Slightly off topic but is there any word of is Si intends to finish Lobster at any point?
Quote from: Dodsy on 06 February, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
Slightly off topic but is there any word of is Si intends to finish Lobster at any point?
I asked him about that a couple of years ago now (gulp is it really that long ago) and he said he'd love to as he was very conscious that he rather left us all dangling. Alas at that point he couldn't give any idea of when as he was so busy writing for the American market.
So we're best to hope that he starts to bomb terribly over there and a broken man he has to come crawling back to Tharg begging him to have mercy and take him back on board...
... what how is that selfish?
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 06 February, 2015, 01:21:46 PM
So we're best to hope that he starts to bomb terribly over there and a broken man he has to come crawling back to Tharg begging him to have mercy and take him back on board...
Given the number of folk on CBR who want Spurrier to be given the keys to the X-kingdom, now that Bendis is moving on, I wouldn't hold my breath. (Though I reckon it'll go to Remender.)
Quote from: Greg M. on 06 February, 2015, 01:28:09 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 06 February, 2015, 01:21:46 PM
So we're best to hope that he starts to bomb terribly over there and a broken man he has to come crawling back to Tharg begging him to have mercy and take him back on board...
Given the number of folk on CBR who want Spurrier to be given the keys to the X-kingdom, now that Bendis is moving on, I wouldn't hold my breath. (Though I reckon it'll go to Remender.)
I'm hoping for Al Ewing, or the return of Kieron Gillen. Or both.
Quote from: Link Prime on 06 February, 2015, 03:05:47 PM
I'm hoping for Al Ewing, or the return of Kieron Gillen. Or both.
Gillen I'd be more than happy with. Haven't enjoyed Al's Avengers work as much as I'd hoped, though there've been highlights - I find there's a slightly arch quality to his Marvel writing that, to me, suits 2000AD better than it does Big Two titles.
Has Kieron ever done owt for Tharg?
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 08 February, 2015, 09:11:10 PM
Has Kieron ever done owt for Tharg?
Unfortunately, never.
And Greg- I take your point about Ewing. I did read a couples of issue of his Avengers stuff, and didn't really like it.
But I chalked that down to a general dislike of The Avengers / current Marvel than anything else.
He could be good- nay great, on an X title.
So next month's floppy is... Harlem Heroes, volume 2. Man, what did we all do to piss Tharg off so much? *resolves not to complain so much about sexy ostriches next time it's in the Meg* *maybe*
My reservations about the usefulness of the floppies is compounded: unless they print Junker! Z :-\ scurries off....
I've been surprised by how often a strip I remember as being awful isn't actually too bad when revisited through the floppies.
I have to report that Harlem Heroes (redux) is not one of them.
It's great to see the Steve Dillon layouts even if the inking doesn't reproduce too well shrunk down on Harlem Heroes. I'm all for a Junker reprint - it's daft and a throwback with lovely art. And a good reminder from tharg of how amazing the prog is NOW.
Universal soldier and Kelly's eye for Brett seeing as neither have been reprinted.
Remember quite enjoying Universal Soldier, but wasn't that Will Simpson?
Will Simpson did the original series.
Not sure Kelly or universal soldier would show Brett at his finest. I'd rather see a collection of his Dredd short stories.
Floppies tend to be for unpublished works that's why I mentioned them and I think universal soldier was great.
Unpublished ? I should have said never reprinted.
Or at least rarely reprinted - looks like the current story did get a showing in a Fleetway / Quality reprint about twenty years ago...
So, two Harlem Heroes volumes but no Finn book two or Bonjo From Beyond The Stars/ Dash Decent?
Do I hear green, drunken-on-polystyrene cackling and see the shadow of alien fingers flicking Vs?
SBT
Quote from: Zenith 666 on 21 February, 2015, 05:13:54 PM
Universal soldier and Kelly's eye for Brett seeing as neither have been reprinted.
I believe there was a copyright issue with Kelly's Eye in that Fleetway (or whoever owned our beloved Prog at the time) thought they owned rights to the character but didn't! Oops! :-\
As posted elsewhere, I really enjoyed the HH reboot at the time. And, on re-reading it in the floppy, I really enjoyed it all over again.
My copy of the HH floppy has already been chucked in a box unread. I enjoyed the artwork in the story but my real problem with it was how long it dragged on for. It could easily have been done in about half the time but seemed to go on interminably.
Although I have it in boxes somewhere, the current return of pre-Apocalypse War Orlok in the pages of 2000AD could be complimented by a re-print of The Inspectre...
I am one of the few that likes the Harlem Heroes reprint. It dates back to my earliest times reading 2000AD, I think I started partway through the HH story and Steve and Kev's art had a big influence on me at the time.
I also liked the Black Siddha reprint more than expected. I thought it would be a bit like when the ABC Warriors developed an interest in Khaos Magic and started faffing about a bit but Black Siddha had lots of jokes in it.
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 22 February, 2015, 12:33:48 PM
So, two Harlem Heroes volumes but no Finn book two or Bonjo From Beyond The Stars/ Dash Decent?
Do I hear green, drunken-on-polystyrene cackling and see the shadow of alien fingers flicking Vs?
SBT
I liked Dash Decent (Bonjo not so much) - bung those two in a collection, put in a few of the other pre-520 one-pagers (has Sooner or Later been reprinted?)...
Quote from: sheridan on 20 April, 2015, 05:44:02 PM
I liked Dash Decent (Bonjo not so much) - bung those two in a collection, put in a few of the other pre-520 one-pagers (has Sooner or Later been reprinted?)...
It's in The Best of Milligan & McCarthy.
Quote from: staticgirl on 18 April, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
I am one of the few that likes the Harlem Heroes reprint. It dates back to my earliest times reading 2000AD, I think I started partway through the HH story and Steve and Kev's art had a big influence on me at the time.
I also liked the Black Siddha reprint more than expected. I thought it would be a bit like when the ABC Warriors developed an interest in Khaos Magic and started faffing about a bit but Black Siddha had lots of jokes in it.
Black Siddha didn't really grip me but I was really enjoying the Harlem Heroes. I'd read the first few chapters of the original in the Best of 2000 AD book recently so was intrigued by a "reboot" as it was described. This turned to horror when it seemed it was in name only. But then I found out really it was a sequel in a way, it wasn't trying to reboot it at all, these were new characters using the same name in the same universe as the originals, and I really enjoyed it. Though it is a bit annoying to have got two full floppies and now just a few chapters a month. Couldn't we have had a third volume to finish it all off neatly?
Would have been nice to have had these last HH chapters in one volume. Great choice for this month's floppy and really pleased to see Finn Book Two is due next month. Lot of love for the floppy from me :)
Harlem heroes is like herpes...its spreading to good floppies
So when are we getting an American Reaper floppy
Never we all know reguardless of whether its liked or not it'll get the hardback treatment
I would buy a hardback American Reaper - it's nice to see something new and not a rehash of past glories
I'd sooner burn money in front of a homeless person than spend money on a Sexy Ostritches collection.
Reading sucks, waiting for the movie (http://www.comingsoon.net/movie/american-reaper).
Quote from: Skullmo on 19 May, 2015, 02:36:05 PM
I would buy a hardback American Reaper - it's nice to see something new and not a rehash of past glories
I'd buy one. A Bookplate edition with art print would be nice.
Cheers
I like them.
I had no recollection at all of Interceptor and enjoyed it.
Was there a sequel?
Nope.
I'd really love for the floppy to collect the complete 'Necrophim' one day.
I know it divided opinion somewhat, but it was right up my street. Unfortunately I only got to read the final story of the three, so I'm crying out for a collection.
I'd like more Armoured Gideon. Or a digital collection. Or a lovely hardback that probably only I would actually buy.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 03 August, 2016, 04:35:15 PM
I'd like more Armoured Gideon. Or a digital collection. Or a lovely hardback that probably only I would actually buy.
Ooh! Ooh! No, I'd buy the shit out of an AG hardback!
Put me down for a AG collection would love to see it
Three copies! C'MON!
Four because I fuckin'm love Armoured Gideon!!!
I'm catching up on the Meg at the minute, and I've found the floppies an unexpected treat. Getting Lobster Random, Freaks, Tyranny Rex, Synammon, even Black Siddha, and now the very beginnings of the Moses mega-arc in Sinister Dexter has been brilliant. They've also upper my enthusiasm for 'proper' collections of same. Sure, there has been a lot of unmitigated crap, but no-one's forcing me to even open those ones (although I do).
A high five for AG. Franqweitz gets my vote every time.
Giant demonic cyborgs, Shako the polar bear and Michelle Pfeiffer- what more could you want?
Gorgeous artwork (both B&W and painted) by the criminally underrated Simon Jacob too.
Whats not to love about Armoured Gideon ? I'd buy the shit out of a shiny hardback
Quote from: James Stacey on 04 August, 2016, 09:34:08 AMWhats not to love about Armoured Gideon ?
Indeed.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqkMyjTCYAAQFFL.jpg)
I'd like to see an Armoured Gideon hardback as well. Get it sorted, Tharg!
Cheers
I would do terrible things to get ag in print especially the utterly bonkers one where he teams up with bill savage to fight shako the polar bear
Armoured Gideon certainly seems to be a more popular choice than my Necrophim. :P
Quote from: The monarch on 04 August, 2016, 07:19:57 PM
I would do terrible things to get ag in print especially the utterly bonkers one where he teams up with bill savage to fight shako the polar bear
Man, thats the funniest thing! I've never read said story, but the very idea of it has sparked something in my soul for 5 years, it's like the most obscure of the 2000AD team ups.
Its definatly a weird one had a lot of early 2000ad characters in it if i recall angel and mach 0 played a role in it too and ants lots of ants
Quote from: Taryn Tailz (formerly Tim) on 04 August, 2016, 09:06:25 PM
Armoured Gideon certainly seems to be a more popular choice than my Necrophim. :P
I returned to the Prog just as the last series of Necrophim was drawing to a close. I thought it quite good (from the small amount I read) and would like to see it collected in some form.
Cheers
AG for me too - the first story has been reprinted a few times but not the later ones
Quote from: The monarch on 04 August, 2016, 07:19:57 PM
I would do terrible things to get ag in print especially the utterly bonkers one where he teams up with bill savage to fight shako the polar bear
For random 2000AD cameos, it pre-dated Ennis' Helter Skelter by a few years.
Very enjoyable story, and as noted by Skullmo, I don't think it was ever reprinted.
Quote from: Tordelback on 03 August, 2016, 09:38:32 PM
now the very beginnings of the Moses mega-arc in Sinister Dexter has been brilliant.
Have the floppies reprinted this run? I may have to have a look into this....
Quote from: Link Prime on 05 August, 2016, 10:14:21 AM
For random 2000AD cameos, it pre-dated Ennis' Helter Skelter by a few years.
Very enjoyable story, and as noted by Skullmo, I don't think it was ever reprinted.
Helter Skelter was almost definitely reprinted as a trade. Not sure available it currently is tho.
Quote from: Dodsy on 05 August, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 05 August, 2016, 10:14:21 AM
For random 2000AD cameos, it pre-dated Ennis' Helter Skelter by a few years.
Very enjoyable story, and as noted by Skullmo, I don't think it was ever reprinted.
Helter Skelter was almost definitely reprinted as a trade. Not sure available it currently is tho.
Ah yeah, I was just referencing the fact that both Helter Skelter and Armoured Gideon: The Collector both featured random cameos from 2000AD characters not normally associated with either strip.
I really enjoyed Necrophim and would like to see it collected. I don't remember it being that popular on here though.
Quote from: Dodsy on 05 August, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: Tordelback on 03 August, 2016, 09:38:32 PM
now the very beginnings of the Moses mega-arc in Sinister Dexter has been brilliant.
Have the floppies reprinted this run? I may have to have a look into this..
Most recent Meg floppy reprints the Kal Kutter stuff, which is where one Moses makes his covert return. It's great stuff - and continues next month.
The early moses war stuff is being reprinted in floppies starting the latest issue and running in at least the next two
As well as Necrophim, the final run of Caballistics Inc would be nice. I know there's not enough for a third trade, so I'd love to get a floppy to round out the collection.
Quote from: Taryn Tailz (formerly Tim) on 05 August, 2016, 06:19:14 PM
As well as Necrophim, the final run of Caballistics Inc would be nice. I know there's not enough for a third trade, so I'd love to get a floppy to round out the collection.
Not likely when Tharg is flogging the full series in digital format (tempted).
I enjoyed Necrophim a lot more than many as memory serves. Reckon it'll get a floppy at some point. Probably not a trade?
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 06 August, 2016, 09:27:34 PM
I enjoyed Necrophim a lot more than many as memory serves. Reckon it'll get a floppy at some point. Probably not a trade?
I'd pick up either, but I feel floppies are much more likely than a trade.
please please please Tharg, can we have a MACH ZERO floppy?
i'm going to undertake a course on custom book-binding and i want to make my own "2000AD Year 1" year 2 year 3 etc hardcovers. need mach 0 to be able to do this.
splundig etc
Quote from: terryworld on 07 August, 2016, 09:51:26 AM
please please please Tharg, can we have a MACH ZERO floppy?
i'm going to undertake a course on custom book-binding and i want to make my own "2000AD Year 1" year 2 year 3 etc hardcovers. need mach 0 to be able to do this.
splundig etc
Didnt that all get reprinted in an extreme?
Timehouse would make a good floppy
while MOST (but not all) of MACH 1 got reprinted in 2 extreme editions, MACH ZERO didn't get the treatment. would love to see the unreprinted MACH 1 stories along with the MACH ZERO stories bundled in a floppy.
The first MACH Zero story was awful, one of the worst stories in the history of the comic. It doesn't ever need to see the light of day again. But the other two stories were very good. They should be included in any future MACH 1 collection. Or a floppy.
Quote from: Richard on 09 August, 2016, 08:47:47 PM
The first MACH Zero story was awful, one of the worst stories in the history of the comic.
Wow really I've just re-read it (assuming you don't mean the M.A.C.H. 1 appearance) and its brilliant stuff, absolutely great. Dark and mysterious creepy and immense fun. Added to my a crazy wonderful villain its a bit of a forgotten masterpiece if you ask me.
can someone jog my memory as to the order of the Mach 0 stories?- I remember the one with the gang of tramps, and the one where he was railway porter, but I can't remember where they came in the ongoing narrative. Wasn't "The Suit" a Mach 0 story too? (I absolutely adored that iconic cover (http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=73&Comic=2000ad))
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
can someone jog my memory as to the order of the Mach 0 stories?- I remember the one with the gang of tramps, and the one where he was railway porter, but I can't remember where they came in the ongoing narrative. Wasn't "The Suit" a Mach 0 story too? (I absolutely adored that iconic cover (http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=73&Comic=2000ad))
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=MACH0 (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=MACH0)
The first story he appeared in was M.A.CH. 1 where the two strap.
'Cousin George' is the first M.A.CH. 0 story proper (i.e. in his own series) and is the one featuring the army of tramps - wonderful stuff
The 'The Suit' followed by BIG break and the final story almost 100 pros later, which I guess has him as a porter?
I would like to see the early Mach Zero stories and the Mach One stories that haven't been reprinted as I haven't read them and they along with a few early future shocks are just about the only remaining 2000AD stories I have never read.
I don't care if they are "dross" or not, I need to see them.
Just received a second haul of 50p Megs (hell of a deal), and strange to report one of the biggest thrills was clocking the floppies. I hadn't really considered that you could order and group the series you liked and ditch the ones you don't - nice little runs of Lobster Random and others crying out for a temporary binding. The floppies can be annoying month to month if you don't like the particular material, but in aggregate they're great. Converted.
Flopppies tend to go unread, and then binged on. Keep em coming!
well, really happy that rebellion's new purchases will make for a slew of half-forgotten and underground collections from the likes of tornado, starlord etc (starting this month). but obviously i would still love a wolfie smith floppie. i started with the prog round about prog 126, i think. and i kind of knew even then that the plotting was nonsense. but memories of the art still chill and i'd really like to read it again, especially the story set on a film set where the devil was inadvertently summoned ... hmmm ... please?
Quote from: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 23 August, 2017, 08:40:41 PM
well, really happy that rebellion's new purchases will make for a slew of half-forgotten and underground collections from the likes of tornado, starlord etc (starting this month). but obviously i would still love a wolfie smith floppie. i started with the prog round about prog 126, i think. and i kind of knew even then that the plotting was nonsense. but memories of the art still chill and i'd really like to read it again, especially the story set on a film set where the devil was inadvertently summoned ... hmmm ... please?
The Wendigo!
Quote from: sheridan on 24 August, 2017, 12:09:13 AM
The Wendigo!
She already appeared in the SinDex floppies.
Lot of love from me for this month's floppy. Whatever Happened To..? It's almost the perfect floppy - this would never be collected as a trade. Some top drawer talent - Mills, Grant, Weston - wrapped in a Robinson cover. It's what the floppy was made for!
Quote from: glassstanley on 16 September, 2017, 05:33:06 PM
Lot of love from me for this month's floppy. Whatever Happened To..? It's almost the perfect floppy - this would never be collected as a trade. Some top drawer talent - Mills, Grant, Weston - wrapped in a Robinson cover. It's what the floppy was made for!
Yeah and with the addition of the British Comics Treasury stuff that won't make trades the floppie has all of a sudden become essential reading!
But I still wish Tharg would collect the rest of Finn, and Helltrekkers, and Tyranny Rex.
Great floppy this month! As someone said above, it's what they're made for.
Helltrekkers was reprinted in the Magazine itself (218–223). If you're a really big fan, grab issue 54 of the Dredd partworks collection (https://hachettepartworks.com/judge-dredd-the-mega-collection/cursed-earth-carnage).
Definitely yes to Finn and Tyranny Rex. I'd also be up for the Friday Rogue strips. These would need to be very occasional reprints, and be self-contained so they aren't dragged out for months like Harlem Heroes was. Stories are meh, but there's some good artwork in there. One a year wouldn't hurt to get the Fleisher stories out of the way.
I'd also like to see a new scan of Flesh Book One from the Progs rather than the annual reprints. Silent giant spiders creeping up on the rangers rather than hissing away.
I don't care for Finn at all, but figure it'd be decent floppy fodder. Tyranny Rex: yep. Although I'd dearly love that to be collected in full for the Ultimate Collection if that gets expanded. Friday Rogue: bleh. They were fairly awful, but there must be enough good stuff to fill a floppy or two if cherry picked.
Anyone find it crazy they've been doing Floppy reprints for almost 10 years now? Amazing.
As for Tyranny Rex, isn't it mostly reprinted at this point? All the early stuff in the Extreme Edition 21. Floppy 366, 367, and 369 covered the rest.
I do wish Rebellion would do us a solid and release the Extreme Edition digitally. They were released in that 2003 to now window they focused their digital back catalog on. And its the only place stuff like The Dead, Revere, Bad City Blue, and Time Flies have been reprinted. And because of that, they are unlikely to be reprinted as floppies*.
*the fact that stuff like Lobster Random book 1 & The VCs Books 1-3 won't be reprinted in Floppies because they were previously reprinted. But don't have digital editions, is beyond frustrating.
There's been a fairly continuous run of monthly reprints since the mid-80s, with the odd gap when the material was used to fill out the Megazine. So 10 years of floppy is is just a fraction! But yes, it is quite an achievement and makes me feel old.
Given that the Best of Misty and Eagle lasted about 6 months each,it says something about the quality of the Progs, or the mentality of its readers :)
I don't know about reissuing the Extreme Editions digitally, but entire runs of stories might be a good shout. I suppose it depends on future plans, and estimates of how likely digital purchases of the more niche strips are likely to put off people from buying in print should the opportunity arise.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2017, 10:30:02 AM
I don't know about reissuing the Extreme Editions digitally, but entire runs of stories might be a good shout. I suppose it depends on future plans, and estimates of how likely digital purchases of the more niche strips are likely to put off people from buying in print should the opportunity arise.
They've already done this with Red Seas and Caballistics. To presumably little effect. Although it was never very well publicised.
The Red Seas digital collection (both volumes) were superb and really brought home the quality of the series overall.
Quote from: I, Cosh on 22 September, 2017, 10:44:10 AMThey've already done this with Red Seas and Caballistics.
Well, quite, hence my suggestion. I'd sooner they do that than just churn out the old EEs as PDFs. (Although if they did, it'd be piss easy to make your own custom collections anyway.)
I am still sea salty (sorry) about red seas being digital only its why i hope it gets the ultimate edition treatment it deserves
It's a shorter series than I realised. Potentially could be shoved into three 250-page hardbacks. (Might be a bit of a squeeze.)
make it four and add some edginton singles like leviathan (assuming thats not in the ampney crucis book) could be a nice wee run
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2017, 02:32:53 PM
Quote from: I, Cosh on 22 September, 2017, 10:44:10 AMThey've already done this with Red Seas and Caballistics.
Well, quite, hence my suggestion. I'd sooner they do that than just churn out the old EEs as PDFs. (Although if they did, it'd be piss easy to make your own custom collections anyway.)
I love making custom collections with my 2000AD purchases. I regularly break down my progs into series arcs for easy rereads. And I've pieced together Meg floppy reprints that got spaced out, like putting the final Samantha Slade Robo-Hunter strip From the Ian Gibson collection, into the prior month's Robo-Hunter volumes. So it's continuous. Thank god for drm-free CBRs.
Quote from: The Monarch on 22 September, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
make it four and add some edginton singles like leviathan (assuming thats not in the ampney crucis book) could be a nice wee run
You could toss American Gothic in there, no problem. I'd say Detonator X too, but that's in color.
I remember really enjoying American Gothic- some lovely Mike Collins art too- he used a really 'rough' style that worked beautifully.
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 25 September, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
I remember really enjoying American Gothic- some lovely Mike Collins art too- he used a really 'rough' style that worked beautifully.
Yeah I'd go with that. Mike Collins art was such a striking contrast to what I expect him to do, but so perfect for the strip. At times it reminded me of Klaus Janson.
Another nice floppy this month. A decent collection of 'Terror Tales'. There's a couple of obvious twists, and 1 ending which left me thinking uh?, but on the whole a nice package.
Next month is 'Helium', one from the selection of Unfinished Works by Ian Edginton (when he should have been writing Brass Sun :) )
Helium? Odd choice, given that it only ran two years ago.
Wow. Helium in a floppy? That should of hand a book 2 and been collected in a proper trade by now, wtf!
Quote from: The Adventurer on 14 October, 2017, 03:24:01 PM
Wow. Helium in a floppy? That should of hand a book 2 and been collected in a proper trade by now, wtf!
Helium read as a floppy sounds great, one of his best. Yum.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2017, 03:23:37 PM
Helium? Odd choice, given that it only ran two years ago.
probably because a new series of it will be starting soon and people may need a refresher?
Quote from: Skullmo on 14 October, 2017, 04:09:02 PMprobably because a new series of it will be starting soon and people may need a refresher?
There is? Must have fallen out of my brain. Well, in that case: good.
I would prefer to see some more from the back catelogue Rebellion owns appearing, rather than recent 2000AD stuff. For example more stuff from Tornado, like maybe the Mind of Wolfie Smith.
I do appreciate that might taken time e.g. to track down decent source material and it can't be stuff that they would rather put in a GN or stuff that is expensive to clean up.
NOT The Mind of Wolfie Smith please.
But otherwise, yes -- although there is nothing wrong with them doing a mix of stuff from 2000AD and stuff from other comics. Not every Megazine was reading the prog over five years ago.
I'm firmly in the opposite camp. I think I am unlikely to be interested in anything non-2000ad that isn't written by Pat Mills or John Wagner. I haven't read any of the floppy material before.
Then you've been missing out.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2017, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: Skullmo on 14 October, 2017, 04:09:02 PMprobably because a new series of it will be starting soon and people may need a refresher?
There is? Must have fallen out of my brain. Well, in that case: good.
Pretty sure I'd have remembered that if I'd seen an announcement somewhere - good news - let's hope this bodes well for Edgingtonverse tales continuing after being in limbo for years...
Quote from: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 04:41:11 PM
NOT The Mind of Wolfie Smith please.
But otherwise, yes -- although there is nothing wrong with them doing a mix of stuff from 2000AD and stuff from other comics. Not every Megazine was reading the prog over five years ago.
What's wrong with the Mind of Wolfie Smith? I have only read the 2000AD stuff, so would be curious to see what it was like in Tornado.
But if Blackhawk is anything to go by, then it's probably no great shakes. But having said that I would still be interested to see it, if only from a comics history point of view.
Wolfie Smith was boring. It made Tharg's list of the 16 worst strips to appear in 2000AD.
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Quote from: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 04:41:11 PM
NOT The Mind of Wolfie Smith please.
But otherwise, yes -- although there is nothing wrong with them doing a mix of stuff from 2000AD and stuff from other comics. Not every Megazine was reading the prog over five years ago.
What's wrong with the Mind of Wolfie Smith? I have only read the 2000AD stuff, so would be curious to see what it was like in Tornado
Yep I'm up for that. Yes its far from perfect but I get on with it well enough, especially the last story.
Quote from: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
Wolfie Smith was boring. It made Tharg's list of the 16 worst strips to appear in 2000AD.
Was that during the nineties, in the midst of the insult-everything-that-went-before phase while not offering much decent material to replace it (including the infamous - "comics are just disposable entertainment, don't look for any deeper meaning or subtext, if you're mature enough to want anything more, then stop reading now" reply to a reader's letter)?
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Quote from: Richard on 14 October, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
Wolfie Smith was boring. It made Tharg's list of the 16 worst strips to appear in 2000AD.
Was that during the nineties, in the midst of the insult-everything-that-went-before phase while not offering much decent material to replace it (including the infamous - "comics are just disposable entertainment, don't look for any deeper meaning or subtext, if you're mature enough to want anything more, then stop reading now" reply to a reader's letter)?
Blimey! What prog was that in?
Are you sure? Sounds more like the brief manifesto of the Grark Millarson team during the Big Dave / Babe Race 2000 era.
Well i enjoyed Wagners Walk in this months megazine so more of the same please!
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 15 October, 2017, 07:46:09 PM
Are you sure? Sounds more like the brief manifesto of the Grark Millarson team during the Big Dave / Babe Race 2000 era.
I completely missed that there had been replies to my mini-rant - it would have been around that time, yes. I can't remember the exact wording of the reply, but I was left wondering if this was the same comic that had played host to Halo Jones, et al, and whether I, as an adult who looks for more complex themes than you find in adolescent superhero fantasy, should be reading the progs any more.
I wouldn't take the sentiment as a personal insult so much as a rebuttle to BIFF POW COMICS NOT JUST FOR KIDS. Morrison seems like he's always been aware of what comics are capable of, and whatever you think of Millar, he's never made any bones about hating the trend in comics for pursuing "legitimacy."
Quote from: judgerufian on 02 January, 2018, 08:41:33 PM
Well i enjoyed Wagners Walk in this months megazine so more of the same please!
I'm certainly up for more non-2000ad/Meg floppy material, as this is a good opportunity to get some of it back out there - and possibly even serve as a primer to relaunch some stories, given how limited the options for such things are these days. If nothing else, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the Jinty stuff, which often covered sci-fi territory.
Quote from: judgerufian on 02 January, 2018, 08:41:33 PM
Well i enjoyed Wagners Walk in this months megazine so more of the same please!
Yeah I really enjoyed this too but it just stopped didn't it. The story did not finish. Was it ever finished or was it cut when merging with 2thou?
There is more Wagner's Walk to come in next month's floppy. Not a lot - as Outlier is in there too - but there is a bit more. Others may know better than I whether there is a conclusion.
Quote from: Timothy on 03 January, 2018, 02:07:17 PM
There is more Wagner's Walk to come in next month's floppy. Not a lot - as Outlier is in there too - but there is a bit more. Others may know better than I whether there is a conclusion.
I missed that. I saw that there was more Wagner's Walk and did wonder how much could be left given that Tornado only lasted 22 issues - but combining it with Outlier... well that's a very curious mix to say the least!
Wagners Walk isn't complete?
Okay, we've had that before in the floppy- most memorably with Lobster Random.
I never read Tornado- or Starlord- before the mergers with 2000 AD, but I can imagine that both these titles had shorts in the style of Future Shocks- so why not split the total of the Wagners walk in half then supplement the rest of the issue with shorts? Is that not preferable to having series stop and start in the same issue as another one?
Am I missing a simple reason for this or am I talking cobblers because I 'don't understand making real comics'?
Honestly, I'd prefer that approach to the floppies, too: have mains and back-ups, if stories don't entirely fill volumes. Having the last bit in another issue is a pain in the arse when it comes to finding stuff later to re-read.
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 03 January, 2018, 04:51:06 PM
I never read Tornado- or Starlord- before the mergers with 2000 AD, but I can imagine that both these titles had shorts in the style of Future Shocks- so why not split the total of the Wagners walk in half then supplement the rest of the issue with shorts? Is that not preferable to having series stop and start in the same issue as another one?
I put together a spreadsheet of all the stories and features that appeared in Tornado about a year ago - it's not exactly user-friendly (as in it doesn't explain what any of the stories are, though it is partially colour-coded).
spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nu-nMEA4j_rsX9sIl23HzkIoh6E0P7jHY3_q3l9_NMg/edit?usp=sharing).
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Quote from: Bolt-01 on 03 January, 2018, 04:51:06 PM
I never read Tornado- or Starlord- before the mergers with 2000 AD, but I can imagine that both these titles had shorts in the style of Future Shocks- so why not split the total of the Wagners walk in half then supplement the rest of the issue with shorts? Is that not preferable to having series stop and start in the same issue as another one?
I put together a spreadsheet of all the stories and features that appeared in Tornado about a year ago - it's not exactly user-friendly (as in it doesn't explain what any of the stories are, though it is partially colour-coded).
spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nu-nMEA4j_rsX9sIl23HzkIoh6E0P7jHY3_q3l9_NMg/edit?usp=sharing).
p.s. there were a few Future Shock style stories in Starlord - I think one or two of them made it into an annual a few years later - the one about alien vampires by Ezquerra, and a Casanovas one about a man being paid to dream leading to hallucinating that people around him are insects?
Quote from: sheridan on 03 January, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
p.s. there were a few Future Shock style stories in Starlord - I think one or two of them made it into an annual a few years later - the one about alien vampires by Ezquerra, and a Casanovas one about a man being paid to dream leading to hallucinating that people around him are insects?
And of course there was 'GOOD MORNING,
SHERIDAN SHELDON, I LOVE YOU!' by TB Grover, Casanovas and Nutall.
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Quote from: sheridan on 03 January, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
p.s. there were a few Future Shock style stories in Starlord - I think one or two of them made it into an annual a few years later - the one about alien vampires by Ezquerra, and a Casanovas one about a man being paid to dream leading to hallucinating that people around him are insects?
And of course there was 'GOOD MORNING, SHERIDAN SHELDON, I LOVE YOU!' by TB Grover, Casanovas and Nutall.
*groan* - the amount of people who misremember my name as Sheldon...
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Quote from: SuperSurfer on 03 January, 2018, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 03 January, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
p.s. there were a few Future Shock style stories in Starlord - I think one or two of them made it into an annual a few years later - the one about alien vampires by Ezquerra, and a Casanovas one about a man being paid to dream leading to hallucinating that people around him are insects?
And of course there was 'GOOD MORNING, SHERIDAN SHELDON, I LOVE YOU!' by TB Grover, Casanovas and Nutall.
*groan* - the amount of people who misremember my name as Sheldon...
Apologies if that grated. I get the same. I've had some bizarre misrememberings of my full name. Often misremembered as a name that isn't more common than mine. I often give up and don't even correct people nowadays.
BTW IIRC that short story I mentioned was a fill-in for Strontium Dog (he comments, putting this back on topic).
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 04 January, 2018, 01:40:17 AM
Apologies if that grated. I get the same. I've had some bizarre misrememberings of my full name. Often misremembered as a name that isn't more common than mine. I often give up and don't even correct people nowadays.
I can understand why people get confused -- it
does look like
Silver Surfer at first glance.
Quote from: Timothy on 03 January, 2018, 02:07:17 PM
There is more Wagner's Walk to come in next month's floppy. Not a lot - as Outlier is in there too - but there is a bit more. Others may know better than I whether there is a conclusion.
If there isn't a conclusion then some of the current writers and artists in the prog should be asked to put together a limited run to finish it off... Wagner's Walk in full colour... in the prog!
It does finish. There is actually only a couple of episodes left.
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 04 January, 2018, 01:40:17 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 04 January, 2018, 01:12:41 AM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 03 January, 2018, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 03 January, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
p.s. there were a few Future Shock style stories in Starlord - I think one or two of them made it into an annual a few years later - the one about alien vampires by Ezquerra, and a Casanovas one about a man being paid to dream leading to hallucinating that people around him are insects?
And of course there was 'GOOD MORNING, SHERIDAN SHELDON, I LOVE YOU!' by TB Grover, Casanovas and Nutall.
*groan* - the amount of people who misremember my name as Sheldon...
Apologies if that grated. I get the same. I've had some bizarre misrememberings of my full name. Often misremembered as a name that isn't more common than mine. I often give up and don't even correct people nowadays.
BTW IIRC that short story I mentioned was a fill-in for Strontium Dog (he comments, putting this back on topic).
No problem (just to derail the thread again) - should probably have put an emoticon on there. It grates when one person I've known for many years gets my name wrong, but I can take a pun :-)
Did anyone notice that there is an episode missing in Wagner's Walk? We get the thrilling cliffhanger of Wagner's tank exploding and we wonder has he been killed, "tune in next week"..only to turn the page to discover all three lads are at a train yard miles away and Mike White has taken over on art duties. Did I miss an explantion in the Meg? Was the art lost or something?
Anyway, I really enjoyed this story, much more than I expected.
Quote from: johnnystress on 10 January, 2018, 10:42:22 AM
Did anyone notice that there is an episode missing in Wagner's Walk? We get the thrilling cliffhanger of Wagner's tank exploding and we wonder has he been killed, "tune in next week"..only to turn the page to discover all three lads are at a train yard miles away and Mike White has taken over on art duties. Did I miss an explantion in the Meg? Was the art lost or something?
Anyway, I really enjoyed this story, much more than I expected.
I also found it very enjoyable. The same question has been asked a couple of times. There was no explanation in the Meg but someone offered this in the review thread:
Quote from: The Amstor Computer on 24 December, 2017, 01:23:29 AM
Wagner's Walk missed a fortnight in its original run in Tornado, so there's nothing missing from the floppy reprint.
Quite why that cliffhanger was never resolved and why it mssed a couple of weeks isn't clear, but Tornado was a bit of a troubled title from launch and the crediting of the strip to "R.E. Wright" (a pseudonym used when a strip had had significant editorial rejigging, IIRC) and shift from Lozano to Mike White on art duties (as well as the suggestion that the story had originally been a Hellman tale) makes me think there was a behind-the-scenes mess of some kind.
Perhaps art was late or lost and with the title already a bit shaky it was thought better to plough on with what Mike White had started on rather than waste even more time getting those episodes redrawn? Or perhaps the strip really was just a retitled/edited Hellman tale (the timing would be right, I think - Action had wrapped up not long before and I could see a commissioned, completed Hellman strip left sitting in a drawer and subsequently hacked about to run as "Wagner's Walk") and the cliffhanger and awkward continuation with a new artist perhaps a symptom of that?
Thanks for that. They should get someone like Eoin Coveney to draw that missing piece.:)
Subscribers will now also get a free art print of the Meg cover with logos etc removed :D
Quote from: Dandontdare on 10 January, 2018, 06:39:18 PM
Subscribers will now also get a free art print of the Meg cover with logos etc removed :D
And very nice and welcome it is too.
Received mine this morning.
Not had time to read it yet but did look at the print.
It's lovely :)
Further to the Wagner's Walk discussion, the new floppy has both the final section *and* a three-panel recap that was printed in Tornado #10 to bridge the missing episodes. I'd forgotten that it was included in the issue (on the inside front cover, now I've checked) but it looks like it was illustrated by Mike White and reads as though it was hastily written by someone in editorial. Nice little inclusion from Rebellion, though it still leaves a little mystery about what actually happened with the strip...
And Outlier, from only a few years back. At this rate, the floppy will soon be reprinting bits of last month's Meg.
It's when they have to reprint stuff from the same issue the floppy is with we really have to start worrying!
Shame that Outlier didn't justify a trade as I really enjoyed it, though I'm consious I'm in a minority!
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 12 January, 2018, 04:55:14 PM
though I'm consious I'm in a minority!
So you could say that you're a... statistical........ outlier...
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 January, 2018, 12:04:46 PM
And Outlier, from only a few years back. At this rate, the floppy will soon be reprinting bits of last month's Meg.
I think with the Tornado reprints we're already seeing the way forward. Rebellion is sitting on a ton of material it will likely never use anywhere else.
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Quote from: Colin YNWA on 12 January, 2018, 04:55:14 PM
though I'm consious I'm in a minority!
So you could say that you're a... statistical........ outlier...
Now that's just mean!
The floppy for Meg 395 is apparently going to be a "Nemesis the Warlock monograph", though it isn't clear from the solicitation whether it will be 64 pages of just that or whether it will be backed up with something else - https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/)
Interesting idea, and there are a few strips in the comic long-running enough - and important and rich enough - to carry that weight.
re: archive material. Although Rebellion have a vast selection available to them to fill out floppies, the complicating factor will likely be the time involved in repro. If the floppies are essentially a value-add for the Meg then I'd expect material like Outlier - already sitting in suitable digital files for near-one-click inclusion - is perhaps easier to justify in the Meg budget than sourcing and cleaning up something from, say, Jinty or Battle.
If the Meg team can mix up prog reprints with older material and specials like the Nemesis monograph going forward the floppy should hopefully be a more eclectic and appealing part of the Meg for even older readers though.
64 pages of text article still has to be paid for, I'd imagine, and this marks a departure for the floppies if Tharg is now producing original material for them. Might it just be a collection of various text stories or articles from annuals and specials?
I could see it being something like an extended one of the pieces Molch-R has written for the Mega Collection - an essay like that backed up with some less-reprinted Nemesis material, pinups, covers and perhaps including a shorter themed reprint (something else from Mills, O'Neill etc.?) would seem a bit more likely than a 64-page text piece.
Quote from: The Amstor Computer on 14 January, 2018, 10:27:35 PM
The floppy for Meg 395 is apparently going to be a "Nemesis the Warlock monograph", though it isn't clear from the solicitation whether it will be 64 pages of just that or whether it will be backed up with something else - https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/)
I'm guessing there are no buyers of the Ultimate collection here...? The text piece in the back of the Nemesis books open 'taken from Rebellion's forthcoming Nemesis the Warlock: A monograph'.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 15 January, 2018, 09:00:44 AM
Quote from: The Amstor Computer on 14 January, 2018, 10:27:35 PM
The floppy for Meg 395 is apparently going to be a "Nemesis the Warlock monograph", though it isn't clear from the solicitation whether it will be 64 pages of just that or whether it will be backed up with something else - https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/)
I'm guessing there are no buyers of the Ultimate collection here...? The text piece in the back of the Nemesis books open 'taken from Rebellion's forthcoming Nemesis the Warlock: A monograph'.
Ah! Mystery solved :-)
And no, not a subscriber - I've got the Mega-Collection on the go and I can't justify £40 a month on that *and* the Ultimate Collection.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 14 January, 2018, 11:18:27 PM
Might it just be a collection of various text stories or articles from annuals and specials?
Now that might not be such a bad idea, you know. Some of the stuff that has been printed over the years does have some interesting little gems. I wouldn't object to an edition reprinting some of the intro's from Titan's Dredd reprints. IIRC the various Apocalypse War volumes have always had slightly different versions that add a little more insight each time. Better than having seven different versions on our shelves. (shuffles away guiltily) ::)
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 15 January, 2018, 09:00:44 AM
Quote from: The Amstor Computer on 14 January, 2018, 10:27:35 PM
The floppy for Meg 395 is apparently going to be a "Nemesis the Warlock monograph", though it isn't clear from the solicitation whether it will be 64 pages of just that or whether it will be backed up with something else - https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/01/13/rebellion-april-2018-solicits/)
I'm guessing there are no buyers of the Ultimate collection here...? The text piece in the back of the Nemesis books open 'taken from Rebellion's forthcoming Nemesis the Warlock: A monograph'.
Unfortunately not - I've got the original progs, the Eagle reprint, selected 'Best of 2000AD monthly' reprints, Titan reprints, the black and silver Titan reprint and couldn't really justify getting it all again, just for the few pages of support material - it was tempting though. I had noticed the mention of the monograph on the Bleeding Cool page though - really looking forward to it - I think of Nemesis Book III as being the story that got me properly in to 2000AD (even though it didn't start until a month or two until I started buying the progs).
Quote from: sheridan on 15 January, 2018, 10:07:43 PM
I've got the original progs, the Eagle reprint, selected 'Best of 2000AD monthly' reprints, Titan reprints, the black and silver Titan reprint and couldn't really justify getting it all again
Not the kind of casual fan this forum normally attracts - buck up boyo!
I like the sound of this Nemesis 'monograph', not a bad idea for the floppy.
:lol:
I was very happy with the Nemesis thing this month. More of this kind of thing, please, Tharg, instead of strips I've read already.
Really surprised to see a story like Block Judge turn up in a floppy. After all it is a top quality Wagner & Ezquerra Dredd and there has been no track record of the real A list stuff in the floppy.
Quote from: Magnetica on 12 May, 2018, 05:24:27 PM
Really surprised to see a story like Block Judge turn up in a floppy. After all it is a top quality Wagner & Ezquerra Dredd and there has been no track record of the real A list stuff in the floppy.
Yeah, it's one hell of a treat this month.
I'm moving house at the moment, and as such have been packing loads of progs/megs/floppies - and by Grud, the sheer amount of *absolutely free* floppies is astounding! So many that I set aside for later and then forgot about, catching up is gonna be fun :thumbsup:
Tharg is truly the most giving of benevolent, alien masters!
Latest solicit for the Meg (https://2000ad.com/post/4898) shows Mind Wars again - hope it gets printed this time (wonder if we'll ever find out why it kept getting promised previously?)
Bit of necroposting here but this month's meg got me thinking. I mean, the controversy over reprints in the meg is almost as old as the meg itself.
I know that for some the floppies are useful for collecting together tooth strips that they might not otherwise get the chance to see but the one thing I do love about the floppies right now is that we are seeing more and more 'taster' issues.
This month's intro to a the character's from the Vigilant is a great opportunity to see some strips that haven't otherwise seen the light of day in decades and that perhaps might not appeal at first. When you look as well at some of the text that is going into this stuff, I would say that there is a case to rethink them possibly.
Personally I would love to see more of the sort of stuff from Fleetway's back catalogue that might not be quite ready for a reprint, that might be a little controversial possibly or that does not exist in sufficient quantity to justify it being reprinted as a standalone volume.
I'd make a case for a selection of strips with some commentary on their origin, history or links to more modern strips. Considering that this is happening to an increasing extent anyway, why not as a standalone volume every couple of months? Mix it up with tooth strips that may (or may not ...) benefit from the floppy treatment?
So very month or two we end up with a Treasury of British Comics taster that promotes possible titles?
Well it's a better idea than reprinting Havn only three years later.
Just speculating here, but it seems to me that the HAVN reprint is possibly due to the fact that it is the right length and the files are available during the apocalypse.
Reprinting some of the older material would require scanning, clean-up, possible lettering revisions and generally much more time than TMO can task a droid to spend currently.
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 16 June, 2020, 09:11:32 AM
Reprinting some of the older material would require scanning, clean-up, possible lettering revisions and generally much more time than TMO can task a droid to spend currently.
Arh so what just for the health and safety of the
Droids I'm meant to forego my older thrills is that it, is it. Stupid not wanting people to get ill...
...ahem... sorry... to put it another way...
Good point I hadn't thought of that...
did that early comment come across as a little entitled and uncaring...
... just a little maybe...???
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 16 June, 2020, 09:11:32 AM
Reprinting some of the older material would require scanning, clean-up, possible lettering revisions and generally much more time than TMO can task a droid to spend currently.
That is something that crossed my mind to be honest. This is thinking more longer term than the current situation which hopefully will peter out at some point.
Possibly one advantage of the floppy treatment is that it might be possible to go with a lower level of quality in terms of repro / touch up, shorter runs with commentary / analysis to fill out the volume. it might help to get a sense of what might benefit from a major effort at some future date?
As I say, just spit-balling really.
That's a very good point, regarding the impact of Covid-19, and perhaps in light of even the prospect of that, we should just cut them a lot of slack and be thankful we are getting regular thrills at all. I know I am.
In the wider issue of the floppies- now Rebellion have started using them to reprint strips from much deeper well of content, I'm ecstatic. The euro Battle strips, old uk strips- bring it all on. If we have to have the likes of HAVN once in a while, well, it stops me from having to dig out the mags when I fancy a reread. At this point I'm fully accustomed to living in what amounts to a comics version of that warehouse from the end of Raiders, so it makes no odds.
How many of these have we had anyway? And does anyone know what size bags/boards would fit them properly, if any? Alternatively, has anyone got info on a binder that would hold about twenty or so, enabling me to get them out of the way somehow- and readable when needed?
SBT
I love the floppies, never had any issue with newer stuff being reprinted its a chance to re-read something i enjoyed previously or haven't read before, its very rare its something that is so recent i have no desire to re-read it or that i didn't like first time around.
That said the back catalogue with treasury of British Comics is vast so its great to see some of the old Battle strips.
My only requirement as with anything i read is, is it good quality? I have no interest in reading stuff just because its old or obscure.
I think any publisher would be wary of releasing anything which didn't have clean reprographics if they could avoid it. How ever much it was indicated that it was a rough draft or 'feeler' for interest, somebody would take it as indicative of the general level of quality.
A lot of the Treasury stuff has not aged well. I don't mind it now and then, but I'd be disappointed if that became the main source of material for the floppy.
To be honest, I enjoyed the Treasury floppy more than Vigilant this month.
I'd happily see more from the archives like this.
Sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but I recently did a biggish purchase on the website, with the main focus on floppies!
I already have the Milligan Faces and Nemesis Monograph from ages ago, but decided to pick up the following (for better or worse!):
278 - Canon Fodder 1 (for the low of Weston and weird Catholic superheroes)
281 - Pussyfoot 5 (John Smith!)
291 - Canon Fodder 2 (more Weston Catholic weirdness, apparently much better written this time)
295, 305, 306 - Strontium Dogs (not sure why, they were cheap?)
301 - McMahon
310-311 - Shamana (I have a soft spot for Mills; I recently picked up the Complete Accident Man and Finn TPBs as well)
319 - Durham Red (a full Ezquerra tale! SIGN ME UP!)
411, 412, 413 - Defoe stories (cheaper than paying nearly $50 for the Ultimate Collection on Ebay).
Anybody have any floppies they consider to be minor treasures or hidden gems? A lot of the older Megs are super affordable and this seems like a fun way to get some stories that are likely never to be collected formally. I'm still holding out for a Shaky Kane/Soul Gun Warrior collection!
I really enjoyed them too, being a returning reader who missed much of the stuff re-printed in these. Some of the ones I enjoyed most are:
Black Siddha - Bad Karma
Black Siddha - Kali Yuga
Black Siddha - Return Of The Jester
Zero - 1 - Night Zero
Zero - 2 - Beyond Zero
Mercy Heights (Books 1 - 4)
American Gothic
Download Tales (1 - 3) + I think there were some Sinister Dexter ones
There was a thread a while ago where a few posters were quite mean about Mercy Heights but I really enjoyed it.
Another good one that I struggle to remember the name of was all about demons trying to outmaneuver each other in the realms of the afterlife/hell/whatever and they were constantly backstabbing each other.
I am sure there are loads of other good ones too.
Quote from: WhizzBang on 21 June, 2023, 06:26:07 PMAnother good one that I struggle to remember the name of was all about demons trying to outmaneuver each other in the realms of the afterlife/hell/whatever and they were constantly backstabbing each other.
Necrophim (https://2kstages.github.io/AtoZ/Necrophim/data.html)?
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 21 June, 2023, 09:08:18 PMNecrophim (https://2kstages.github.io/AtoZ/Necrophim/data.html)?
Yes! That was it, thanks Funt.
canon fodder is good dumb fun. probably the best thing miller ever wrote for 2000ad and i am aware thats a low bar. The sequal is genuinly good though and i do not need to say that chris westons art is just fantastic