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#31
Yeah 'Preview' worked fine. I always drop them in and do a final read through to catch as many errors last minute as possible. It was only when I clicked 'Post' (or 'Save' when I tried to modify) that I had an issue.

Weird?!?
#32
Hi,

Just tried to post a copy and paste from a Google Doc onto a thread I've been posting on for a few months now.

https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=49476.0

I've been able to make other posts in that thread this morning.

I've been able to do that fine up to this point and last did so Thursday last week 14/03/24. These are long posts but didn't exceed the character limit. Indeed this post has less embedded images and links than the normal  things I've been copy and pasting in.

I was wondering is there anything specific about the content of this Google Doc that has prevented me posting it?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/106G-isLZb4OPgsKyShJ5_2qnhCTqn74b-ktGyiuCsUY/edit?usp=sharing

Or has a change been made to try to prevent Spam etc?

When I try to post I get a 403 Forbidden error. I tried a work around of adding a placeholder post and doing both a 'Quick Edit' and a 'Modify' to add the content of the Google Doc in but when I tried that it just hung on a 'Loading' page and wouldn't load.

Curious as to why this might be???
#33
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 18 March, 2024, 07:59:57 AMOh weird for some reason I can't post the entry. its certainly not longer than one's I've done before and has nothing I've not been able to add before , so just images and embedded URLS.

As I've already dragged this out I'll add a URL for the Google Doc for this one here and see if I can add it properly in a bit???

https://docs.google.com/document/d/106G-isLZb4OPgsKyShJ5_2qnhCTqn74b-ktGyiuCsUY/edit?usp=sharing

Its for From Hell - Not on the List by the way.

The Comic gods clearly don't like me saying such things!
#34
Oh weird for some reason I can't post the entry. its certainly not longer than one's I've done before and has nothing I've not been able to add before , so just images and embedded URLS.

As I've already dragged this out I'll add a URL for the Google Doc for this one here and see if I can add it properly in a bit???

https://docs.google.com/document/d/106G-isLZb4OPgsKyShJ5_2qnhCTqn74b-ktGyiuCsUY/edit?usp=sharing
#35
Well this mornings entry is a bit of a cheat. Its a 'Not on the List' entry. The reason I'm doing that in a 'regular' slot is... wel to be honest cos I thought I'd be getting behind as there's a few of these 'Not on the List' entries coming up and while they are much quicker to rattle off then the regular entries I figured I'd be getting behind but have just about been able to keep pace and keep my buffer going.

The other reason however is I thought the Watchmen entry would bring the chat and it has and I think this one might as well. So I decided to give them both room to breathe, rather than just crank this one in a corner somewhere. Let's see if this one leads to fascinating chat about music too!

Regular entry on Thursday I promise!
#36
Quote from: Fortnight on 17 March, 2024, 09:14:44 AMIf you go looking you'll find a lot of stuff that's stylistically very far from what you're familiar with. Yet if you mostly hear music when it's pushed at you, it can give the impression that it's not much different now to what it was 60 years ago. Only the stuff that someone thinks will sell is marketed so widely that you'll hear it without trying to find it, and what sells is what the most people like. What most people like is what they already like, and so you get a long stream of just the same stuff with apparently very slow development.

That's true, but then always was. The 60s were awash with innovative music and underground comix. But I think the comix and comics have developed far more than music since then. Age could well be a major thing, comics are so new. But in a large part I think its much more to do wioth understanding of potential. As you say music is far more open for folks to understand its scope and range. Comics have been pigeonholed and so each development has much more impact as it rips through its limited audience much quicker than changes on music... oh having typed that I'm just not sure!
#37
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 16 March, 2024, 10:09:20 PMI do like that Live and Let Die song.

That's Wings - Macca's firs tpost Beatle band - they had some good tunes too (and some stinkers!)

Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 16 March, 2024, 10:09:20 PMI think Beatles is more comparable to those 60s comics people have mentioned. And with music maybe even more so than comics, it's all personal taste, how influential and important it is won't make you connect with it and love it. It does or it doesn't you know?

Now that's really interesting as I don't see quite the same developmental leaps in music as I do in comics. While there is certainly development and bands learning and growing from what's gone before them I don't think music has developed in anything like the way comics have since the 60s. I find good 60s music far more accessible and relevent to me than I do good 60s comics, on the whole.
#38
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 16 March, 2024, 08:44:52 PMI'm curious to hear about The Beatles being appraised off the pedestal like you mentioned! I've yet to get into them, and I've rarely heard anyone say anything less than lofty about them.

I mean listen to the Beatles already (from Help! onwards I'd say). Just like Watchmen, they are still and likely always will be held in very high regard. I'd suggest they aren't regarded as simply untouchably the best ever anymore, however... or maybe its just the folks I talk to?
#39
Prog / Prog 2374 - A World of His Making!
16 March, 2024, 03:40:29 PM
Well it an interesting place to go to an over sized Prog that's being treated kinda like a jump on. But what the heck. This is largely an excellent Prog.

Dredd. BRILLIANT. Niemand on fire again with a superb story and Joe Currie's dreamy art is just perfect. Another brilliant Dredd loved this one.

Indigo Prime - lost me for a second there, not quite sure how we made the leap from where we were to the white hole of all realities but frankly who cares if all the joins aren't quite clear this was superb and a fantastic ending.

Full Tilt Boogie slips back to the story after last weeks delightful break and it great and a little chilling.

Deadworld this one has lost me - such a shame.

Thistlebone - yike it just continues to be what it is creepy, horrible and wonderful.

So next week we get Proteus Vex in for Deadworld so that's looks like being an upward trade and an exciting prospect. With added Rogue Trooper (guess we'll see a lot of that this year) could be a treat. As it is though we have quite enough this week to keep me happy.
#40
General / Re: Crowdfunders you might like
16 March, 2024, 03:32:06 PM
Latest issue - 6 - of the brilliant Switchblade Stories is on Kickstarter at the moment. Already well and truly funded and still plenty of time to go AND you can catch up with the first 5 issues to boot.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/managementproject/switchblade-stories-issues-1-to-6
#41
News / Re: Treasury of British Comics Annual 2024?
16 March, 2024, 03:25:56 PM
Wow I wonder what form that will take... exciting!
#42
Quote from: BadlyDrawnKano on 15 March, 2024, 01:41:58 PMI think a certain amount of Moore's eighties work suffered from that, but it does vary a great deal (for me, at least). Like I love Halo Jones, D.R. & Quinch, Captain Britain and V For Vendetta, but there are parts of Swamp Thing, Miracleman and Watchmen which I found heavy going despite loving other aspects of them.

Oh interesting. You're going to approve of a few things still to come (and not come) on my list!

#43
Quote from: broodblik on 14 March, 2024, 12:41:19 PMI have read Watchmen a few times but I still struggle to get it placed in my top 10. I cannot really put my finger to it and I might get "cancelled" here but I feel it is a bit overrated. The art as is always is top-notch from Gibbons

I think this is a view is becoming more common, as I'll briefly discuss next time.

Quote from: Tjm86 on 14 March, 2024, 06:58:00 PMTo be honest I've always preferred V for Vendetta over Watchmen.  The latter seems a bit pretentious at times, trying to do too much and be a bit too clever.  V, on the other hand, is far more nuanced.  Or maybe it is the way that it delves into the unsavoury aspects of the 'great and the good' of our nation.  Peeling back the covers on the hypocrites who claim to be our moral arbiters.  It also seems disturbingly prescient in the current climate.

Yep I agree with this and we'll find out soon enough.

Quote from: BadlyDrawnKano on 14 March, 2024, 09:55:59 PMI'm also intrigued as to what Colin's next entry is going to be, but I think the only thing that could really appal me is if it was Geoff Johns' Doomsday Clock!

To be honest I'm not Geoff Johns biggest fan and I didn't have any interest in Doomsday Clock and have never read and know very, very little about it. As for the next one don't forget not every post is what's on the list...
#44
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 14 March, 2024, 10:35:43 AMYou're too hard on yourself, Colin! I think a conservative but honorary position for Watchmen on anyone's personal ranking is pretty much the norm today.

I think this might be generation, building in what Indigo Prime says. If you were there I think for many Watchmen really holds a postion in folks hearts - and I was there or there abouts.

Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 14 March, 2024, 10:35:43 AMThough I stand with you in the assessment though an excellent work in its own right, more than a little of its potency has been lost over the years, and I don't think Moore would disagree with anyone on that assessment.

He'd still fall out with me thought wouldn't he. Mind as long as he kept forwarding me the cheques I'd get over that. I don't hold myself up to the moral standards Mr M does, who could!

Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 14 March, 2024, 10:35:43 AMI do, however, withhold the right to admonish you for this apparently equally scandalous next entry, whatever it may be!
Consider this a warning!

Its a warning to Alan M fans really... I think my next one will really not go down well with them. I do explain myself and say sorry a lot (in so many words) but who knows if that will be enough?!?
#45
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 March, 2024, 09:41:32 AMI didn't realise this was in any kind of order. Won't hold that against you! :D

Whoops yeah its a countdown - so 124 is better than 125 and by the time we get to number 1 I will have to have created new superlatives as I'll have used all existing ones to death!

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 March, 2024, 09:41:32 AMI've never thought of Watchmen as The Beatles of comics, nor the Pink Floyd of comics, but the punk of comics. Not because of its aesthetic nor feel, but because I always reasoned its impact must have been far greater if you were 'there at the time'.

For me, today, it's one of those books I feel I kind of have to have in my comics library. It's foundational but also modern enough that I still care enough to read it from time to time. (By contrast, I don't – say – care about having early Marvel collections.) I probably need to give it another 'full' read at some point; but it's always been a series I've giving a respectful nod to rather than one I love.

Oddly, the same is true for me and punk. The vast majority of my music tastes start in the late 1970s. I don't care for much before that. But I also don't like much punk music. It was transformative and vital. But what I like is what it triggered, not what it did itself. Similar to Watchmen.

Damn that's good. I bloody wish I'd said that in my write up. Its defo true... though I would say the Beatles reference still stands, but that's another conversation.

I particularly like the punk reference as I kinda like lots of bits of punk (remember I do really like Watchmen though) but I much prefer post punk hardcore and then much prefer late 80s and 90s indie Rock. Each has grown from the  earlier interation but improved upon it also. The same is often true of comics. Watchmen did it really well. Some things that followed Watchmen did it even better and some modern comics are knockin' it out the park compared to them!

Great analogy!