Nice cover: could see that used in the Hatchette series
Nerve Centre: Is that Trapper Hag? Poor Roxilla bites the dust finally.
Dredd: well that's not going to end well, Loving story and art.
Defoe: The Happy Shrapnel droid is knocking it out the park, Defoe coming across as Dredd rather than a Leveller.
Brink really growing on me, intrigued.
Scarlet Traces charging along at a cracking pace, great stuff, lube all round.
Cursed: just not for me the art or the story.
Letters half page and what looks like great craik in NornIron/sixcount'ems.
Top proggage!
You're right about everything. Apart from Deadworld.
Poor Roxilla.
Bah, no prog - which means Tuesday at the earliest :(
Quote from: Dandontdare on 15 April, 2017, 06:19:40 PM
Bah, no prog - which means Tuesday at the earliest :(
Same here.
Damn you, Jesus! ;)
Well you've had your pre-emptive revenge anyway.
Quote from: Proudhuff on 15 April, 2017, 01:29:29 PM
Dredd: well that's not going to end well, Loving story and art.
Really enjoying Dredd at the moment, I didn't think he'd mellow on the Mechanismo issue too much - he's pretty dogmatic ol Joe.
But the one thing that
has got me thinking, is about the Cadets and the enrolment of them & how all that's going down?
There's a whole other element to the Citi-Defence and the Auxilaries too - with Judge numbers so low that The Robots are being wheeled out again for discussion, I wonder how many Judges are in service and are coming through...
I know, a great idea, why don't they ask Texas City for some Judges! what could go wrong with that ey?
:thumbsup:
Or the Sovs or Emerald Isle, or Muties? ;)
They lost a whole academy full of cadets during the DofC, so someone here do the numbers!
There was a thread for that at one point :think:
Looks like the Dictators of Easter have hijacked the non-Jock Progs and Megazines.
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/2027_zpsd1sdjclp.jpg)
Matt Ferguson is back on the cover. Nice.
Cover is a strong image, but in the papery flesh the nightime colour scheme makes it hard to read Harvey as a robot: it just looks like a not-particularly stylised Dredd. Bit of a missed opportunity.
Yeah, I think it needs a more vibrant colour scheme - push the shiney side.
Solid prog,as usual.
Not quite as up there as recent Progs. Don't get me wrong nowt bad, just things take a little mid-season downturn.
Dredd is actually excellent as ever. It sings to stories of old, Dredd being stubborn and refusing to buckle. A Chief Judge disagreeing. Might feel a little cliche if I didn't think Wagner how has the rug gripped firmly in two hands...
Defoe looks great but the horror didn't ring out in the script for me. I mean that woman has just had a [spoiler]son killed[/spoiler] and taken a bite... she came across as pretty sad nowt more!
Brink was another great conversation just shining and building the story more and more. Genius again.
Scarlet Traces was strangely a little flat this week, can't put my finger on it, especially with that final page!
Deadworld likewise didn't hold up to current form and felt a little more like the stuff that made me not care in the first place. Again can't really pin a reason for this.
Not a bad Prog at all just not quite as great as what went before.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 19 April, 2017, 10:02:30 PM
Dredd is actually excellent as ever. It sings to stories of old, Dredd being stubborn and refusing to buckle. A Chief Judge disagreeing. Might feel a little cliche if I didn't think Wagner how has the rug gripped firmly in two hands...
In the original Mechanismo series, Dredd is so obviously right about the robot judges and McGruder being an unstable autocrat that most of the conflict in the story is about seeing how far over the line he'll go to stop them.
I keep wondering if this is supposed to be an inversion of the same. Dredd is wrong this time, with the robots basically working well and Hershey espousing a McGruder-like critique of Dredd's inability to grasp the bigger picture - but sympathetically this time because a) readers like Hershey and b) she's not insane. But I can't see robots not going haywire making for a decent story and Dredd's fundamental objection to Harvey is basically unanswerable, so he's hardly going to change his mind.
So it looks like the drama's going to be about [spoiler]Hershey giving Dredd approval and then reneging on it, both of which look like dumb moves from someone who's usually depicted as a lot smarter[/spoiler].
I mostly agree with The Corinthian, but Hershey is smarter than that and Wagner knows it.
Yeah that's the thing you'd think Hershey wouldn't simply over-rule Dredd behind his back. She has certainly asserted her position recently and that's great but if she gave him the call you'd think she'd respect that enough to at least have it out with him. We'll see. It might all have been hastened just to expedite the storytelling but I'd hope there's something else going on?
Yeah, it's all so similar to Kraken that there must be an interesting twist coming.
Quote from: CalHab on 20 April, 2017, 01:13:38 PM
Yeah, it's all so similar to Kraken that there must be an interesting twist coming.
The speculation starts here!
My suggestion: [spoiler]Harvey malfunctions and kills someone Dredd actually cares about (like Rico II, Giant III or Beeny ... or even Vienna?) and Dredd goes on the warpath in a battle against Hershey, causing a schism in Justice Department. In other words, John Wagner does "Civil War", but with more subtlety & class than Marvel/Millar.[/spoiler]
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/79/56/517956460e6283ff2c5d0abfa1a183c0.jpg)
Quote from: A.Cow on 20 April, 2017, 06:17:11 PM
Quote from: CalHab on 20 April, 2017, 01:13:38 PM
Yeah, it's all so similar to Kraken that there must be an interesting twist coming.
The speculation starts here!
My suggestion: [spoiler]Harvey malfunctions and kills someone Dredd actually cares about (like Rico II, Giant III or Beeny ... or even Vienna?) and Dredd goes on the warpath in a battle against Hershey, causing a schism in Justice Department. In other words, John Wagner does "Civil War", but with more subtlety & class than Marvel/Millar.[/spoiler]
Interesting idea.
I reckon [spoiler]Harvey will eventually see things from Dredd's point of view, due to his heightened empathy with the citizens, and recommend he be decommissioned. Or something.[/spoiler]
My twopenn'orth of speculation: [spoiler]Harvey's empathy will get out of control and he'll end up trying to free perps he feels sorry for or arrest judges for assaulting people[/spoiler]
Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 April, 2017, 07:52:13 PM
My twopenn'orth of speculation: [spoiler]Harvey's empathy will get out of control and he'll end up trying to free perps he feels sorry for or arrest judges for assaulting people[/spoiler]
DDD is almost right: I still think Harvey will either [spoiler]drop his guard and get taken out just like Minty did, or he (and his brothers) will see Justice Dept as a perversion of justice and/or Fargo's ideals and demand reform, possibly violently.[/spoiler]
However, I do think Joe will respect Hershey's right to make the big decisions. There'll be no resignation blackmail or silent coups this time.
Quote from: TordelBack on 20 April, 2017, 08:43:39 PM
However, I do think Joe will respect Hershey's right to make the big decisions. There'll be no resignation blackmail or silent coups this time.
Agreed. He made it clear in Tour Of Duty that he ain't quitin' no more.
Learned his lesson during Necropolis I imagine ::)
Cover is lovely but Harvey's Lawmaster is missing one of its three wheels.
I really like Harvey and hope nothing bad happens to him. He's a great judge and a nice guy.
And hats off to Wagner for making the story so different from the original Mechanismo one.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 20 April, 2017, 11:12:05 PM
I really like Harvey and hope nothing bad happens to him. He's a great judge and a nice guy.
Sheesh, just drive him straight to robo-Resyk yourself, why don't you.
Cover: Slick. Take the point that it's a bit monochrome but it serves to highlight the red helmet outline.
Dredd: Harvey gets better each week. Getting a real sense of... well, dread about how things are going to develop. This is part four of six, yeah? Surely there's no time to wrap this now that Mechanismo units are going to flood the streets. We must be leading into something bigger.
Defoe: A never-ending tide of ideas, as one would expect from Pat Mills. Colin MacNeil's art is beautiful - the style is weirdly like something you expect from a children's illustrator, especially the cartoonish faces, which gives the horrific material more impact.
Brink: Hypnotic once again. I'm sure things will kick off soon but I'm in no rush.
Scarlet Traces: What's going on here? Not read previous books, the precis in the Nerve Centre is no use. Not my favourite story. (Though I still prefer it to Future Shocks)
Deadworld: Love the grisly head-swapping, and that callback to the mutant family. This is fleshing out (pun intended) the world of the dark dimension in a very satisfying manner.
Strong cover this week, very reminiscent of Carl Critchlow's current style, particularly in monochrome inks.
Is it an obvious homage to another image, or do I just own too many Sons of Anarchy DVDs?
That's a great B&W image - seeing that, I do yearn for some more black and white linework in the prog.
Colour has it's place and all that, but when it starts to muddy and blanket mono colouring is favoured, I do think that it can take away so much from the inks... just my opinion of course...
Quote from: Jacqusie on 21 April, 2017, 01:10:10 PM
That's a great B&W image - seeing that, I do yearn for some more black and white linework in the prog.
Colour has it's place and all that, but when it starts to muddy and blanket mono colouring is favoured, I do think that it can take away so much from the inks... just my opinion of course...
It's a big part of the appeal of Lawless.
What I really liked about episode 4 of Harvey is that lesser writers would have ended the story at this point, and we'd have waited six months to find out what happened next. Wagner gives us two more episodes.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 April, 2017, 07:52:13 PM
My twopenn'orth of speculation:
Pat Mills Already Did It (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpsons_Already_Did_It)
First there was the mark one war droid. He was programmed to identify and attack enemies of the state... but couldn't recognise civilians. That required moral judgement. The mark two was programmed with genuine moral values. He became a pacifist and tried converting human soldiers to his cause... and paid the inevitable price.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iqhOQJI3uRs/VqDevl4sJdI/AAAAAAAAApY/As2nDBO6PyU/s1600/Hammerstein_06.jpg)
SMS's work on The Black Hole has aged far better than Bisley's. What a page.