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Title: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2017, 02:15:47 PM
So the Prog stays on fine form, much as you were really.

A fine Dredd, always nice to have Michael Carroll back on the big man. This time ably assisted by PJ in a story very much setting up the piece, but doing so well enough.

Slaine annoyingly just side steps the dilemma we left Slaine in last time and from there its a solid episode beautifully rendered.

Indigo Prime avoids any miss giving I might have by being frankly blinding. Its just brilliant stuff. Though I did wonder if I'm meant to know the person revealed at the end the way this is going! I don't think I am... am I? Also no real progress on why we have Revere here yet, fun though it is to have him.

Sinister Dexter continues to be such good fun. Its a cracking episode skillfully drawn by two supreme craftsmen.

Absalom likewise has a fair measure of fun and japs concluded with a nice set up for action to come. Its good stuff.

So yeah a couple of blinders, a good stuff, fine opener and solid if beautiful so ya know no complaints at all really.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: JamesC on 28 October, 2017, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2017, 02:15:47 PM


Absalom likewise has a fair measure of fun and japs concluded with a nice set up for action to come. Its good stuff.


Don't tell me Absolom is doing a homage to 1970s Commando comics!
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 28 October, 2017, 05:13:45 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
You know I don't even know what I was trying to say... sometimes I do wonder about what the hell I type here!
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2017, 05:45:56 PM
Wait, Joe Darkie is in Absolom? I knew this Revere business set a bad precedent...
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 28 October, 2017, 06:54:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8V7jlfl.jpg)
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Geoff on 28 October, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
A nice cover which asks a valid question...the answer to which is, 'yes' I'm afraid. Although the artwork is glorious.

The rest of the prog is pretty great really.  Dredd has an interesting set-up, it's puzzling why MC1, given it's many current problems would be so quick to help a remote Sov mining station but that will probably become clear.

IP doesn't cause me the same problems as other more invested forumites, it's completely unintelligible and bonkers but the art's great, the characters are bizarre but have depth and more happens in an episode that in a whole book of Slaine.

Sin Dex and Absolom are action packed and fun too.  TMO has my thanks.     
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Woolly on 28 October, 2017, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: Geoff on 28 October, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
A nice cover which asks a valid question...the answer to which is, 'yes' I'm afraid. Although the artwork is glorious.

Good point!
It really is an odd strapline when you think about it. Just asking for trouble there, Tharg!
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: A.Cow on 29 October, 2017, 01:17:30 AM
Quote from: Geoff on 28 October, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
A nice cover which asks a valid question...the answer to which is, 'yes' I'm afraid. Although the artwork is glorious.

Not on the printed prog it ain't -- it's far too dark; just looks like mud with extra mud.

This has happened a number of times in the last year or so.  I appreciate there will always be significant gamut differences between digital and print, but you'd think that they'd adjust the levels a bit for the print copy.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: sheridan on 29 October, 2017, 04:49:16 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
You know I don't even know what I was trying to say... sometimes I do wonder about what the hell I type here!
Fun and japes, surely?
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 29 October, 2017, 06:09:43 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 29 October, 2017, 04:49:16 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
You know I don't even know what I was trying to say... sometimes I do wonder about what the hell I type here!
Fun and japes, surely?

Arh there we have it. You know my mind better than I do...

.... for which you should be truly terrified, TERRIFIED....
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 29 October, 2017, 09:15:04 AM
Nice Dredd set-up with some amusing satire. MC-1 seemingly still arrogant enough to think it should be shoving Dredd's size whatever's into everything, despite the requirement here to invade someone else's turf.

Sláine. Well, I just don't get it these days. Thinking about it, the strip now feels like it wants to be a novel. The way it's written would be better suited to prose, perhaps with the odd spot illustration. The pace is absurdly sluggish, and although Davis can do no wrong, I'm just bored. (And, really, when you're in the middle of a fight for your life, is there really time for that much chat?)

Indigo Prime remains nuts. Great opening frame. Feels like it's heading to a conclusion. I do hope Kek-W's not been asked to wrap up the strip.

Sin/Dex is amusing silliness. In hindsight, this strip always worked better for me when highlighting its absurdities, running short series, and not dwelling too much on what these – let's face it – mass murderers are doing from a moral standpoint.

Absalom. Yep. Great script and art. I shall miss this one when it's gone.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Richard on 29 October, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
One of the most common and stupid cliches in comics is people talking and fighting at the same time. I'm no expert, but I feel pretty confident in asserting that if you tried that in real life then (1) your opponent wouldn't be listening, (2) you'd get your jaw broken pretty soon, and (3) you'd lose the fight.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 29 October, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: Richard on 29 October, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
One of the most common and stupid cliches in comics is people talking and fighting at the same time.

What's really sad is that so much early, angry, Pat Mills work savagely and hilariously lampoons that stupid cliche - most notably Marshall Law. Can he not see that he's now more guilty of it than anyone else in the prog?
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Richard on 29 October, 2017, 02:22:14 PM
Indeed. There's a whole episode of Nemesis book one which is just Nemesis and Torquemada fighting silently, illustrated beautifully by Kevin O'Neill. It would not have been improved by plastering speech bubbles all over it.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: sheridan on 29 October, 2017, 05:45:24 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 29 October, 2017, 09:15:04 AM
Sláine. Well, I just don't get it these days. Thinking about it, the strip now feels like it wants to be a novel. The way it's written would be better suited to prose, perhaps with the odd spot illustration. The pace is absurdly sluggish, and although Davis can do no wrong, I'm just bored. (And, really, when you're in the middle of a fight for your life, is there really time for that much chat?)

It's been a novel before - more than one in fact... 
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: A.Cow on 30 October, 2017, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: Richard on 29 October, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
One of the most common and stupid cliches in comics is people talking and fighting at the same time. I'm no expert, but I feel pretty confident in asserting that if you tried that in real life then (1) your opponent wouldn't be listening, (2) you'd get your jaw broken pretty soon, and (3) you'd lose the fight.

Yeah, because comics are known for their real-life accuracy...

Besides, I'd argue that comics would be very boring if we had fighting with no dialogue.
Especially Spider-Man.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: TordelBack on 30 October, 2017, 10:12:39 AM
Without giving Mills a blanket pardon for this offence (which is everywhere), in the specific case of Slaine he's explicitly following the bombastic tradition of celtic myth, where opponents exchange boasts, insults, regrets and even poems as they fight.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 October, 2017, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 30 October, 2017, 10:12:39 AM
opponents exchange boasts, insults, regrets and even poems as they fight.

You're talking about the forum, aren't you.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Fungus on 30 October, 2017, 12:23:27 PM
Ha  :D
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 30 October, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: TordelBack on 30 October, 2017, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 October, 2017, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 30 October, 2017, 10:12:39 AM
opponents exchange boasts, insults, regrets and even poems as they fight.

You're talking about the forum, aren't you.

Heh!
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 31 October, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
So we can expect a sequence where Slaine announces he is leaving the Land Of The Young forever? And flounces off in a huff. Only to return two panels later.

Oh wait, that DID happen already.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Tjm86 on 31 October, 2017, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 31 October, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
....

Oh wait, that DID happen already.

No idea.  I lost track of what the hell is going on in Slaine years ago.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: A.Cow on 31 October, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Tjm86 on 31 October, 2017, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 31 October, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
.... Oh wait, that DID happen already.
No idea.  I lost track of what the hell is going on in Slaine years ago.

Hang, on ... there's actually stuff going on in Slaine??

I'd always presumed it was just a load of pretty pictures of characters posing & shouting, like a kind of Voguing with Tourette's.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: TordelBack on 31 October, 2017, 06:47:50 PM
I know y'all know if you care or not, but it's pretty straightforward these days - Slaine's tribe left this world for another 'density' at the end of the Books of Invasion, leaving Ireland to Gael's people, who had been freed from the control of the Formorians.  Slaine stayed behind, wandering around Albion, occasionally running into Ukko, Nest,  and his son Kai. 

He's headed over to the drune island stronghold of Mona to rescue local woman Siobhan and recover the Treasures of the Goddess, stolen from a local tribe by his buddy who turned out to be a secret drune in service to Slough Feg's son*, newly Slough-ed Goddodin. Goddodin is playing mindgames with Slaine about his parentage, and they both had a run-in with one of the Archons, jailers of the Dark Gods.

Now he's heading back across the causeway to the mainland with Siobhan and the treasures.  That's it.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Woolly on 31 October, 2017, 09:29:44 PM
Your saying it reads better in one go, yeah?  ;)
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Fungus on 01 November, 2017, 12:00:12 AM
I'll look at the pretty pictures this week...
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: norton canes on 01 November, 2017, 11:49:11 AM
I haven't had a chance to read the prog yet (and I haven't read this thread either so I hope this hasn't already been mentioned) but I noticed that this makes four covers since there was a Dredd cover - and only two of the last ten covers have featured Dredd. Coincidence? Or an effort to make the prog less Dredd-centric?
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Proudhuff on 01 November, 2017, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 28 October, 2017, 06:54:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8V7jlfl.jpg)

Is that a shark jumping?

Can someone tell TMO those beards are so last century!

Dredd is a excellent set up, and a few older hands could pick up a bit o knowledge from the Car-Roll Droid about how to do a bit of basil, without having to do it during an epic battle.
Artwork spot on too, nice work team Dredd  :thumbsup:

Absalom: still the highlight of the Prog for me, love the art and sense of foreboding about this trip to hell...
I'm hoping the GRennie Droid hasn't got bored of the auld Fecker and dumping him with Cal Inc in the round file.
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: norton canes on 03 November, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
Don't really have time to do a story-by-story this week but it's pretty much all good stuff, a pleasure to read from cover to cover.

Is this the first time there have been female nipples on the cover?
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Pegasus P Artichoke on 03 November, 2017, 08:11:14 PM
Great prog

Dredd looks to be setting up something very interesting, i like it when we explore more of the dredd world outside of mega city 1

Slaine im having a great time with, the dialogue is brilliant, anything with a mermaid calling someone a donkey ass has to be good.

Indigo Prime i have never read before but i am loving this slice of bonkers sci fi

Sin Dex is a good solid slice of fun

Absolom is quality as always

Top stuff indeed
Title: Re: Prog 2055 - Wave of Terror!
Post by: Trout on 04 November, 2017, 12:37:45 AM
I enjoyed this comic, especially Dredd and Absalom.