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Title: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Simon Fraser on 19 November, 2019, 04:26:03 PM
Hey so I need some info. Perhaps there are some Dredd experts out there that could help me.

Do MC1 Judges have ID tattoos? I seem to remember that they do. The only reference I can find after a quick Google is this , http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=specials&choice=lotf02    , which isn't exactly canon. So is there an official Justice Dept ID tat? If so what is it and where is it? I'm assuming a shoulder , but I don't know which one.

Thanks for any help. You guys are amazing.

Si.

Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 November, 2019, 04:44:09 PM
Whilst I think one or two artists have included a tattoo, I don't recall it ever being canon - apart from the Stallone movie in which they all had a shoulder tattoo.
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 19 November, 2019, 04:53:33 PM
My first thought was this cheeky/skeevy offering from Ben Willsher:  :o

(https://i.imgur.com/OG5POYr.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Steve Green on 19 November, 2019, 04:55:12 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw one crop up in the strip from before the Stallone film, but it's one of those things that's not really been established as a detail.

Post Stallone film, there were a few things that made their way into the strip for a bit, like the extra bits on the helmet.

Ben Wilsher even had one judge with a Justice Department Brazilian (or Pan-Andean Conurb I guess)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Steve Green on 19 November, 2019, 05:25:10 PM
I had a quick look through case files and couldn't find any examples...

I'm sure it's appeared on shoulders outside of LOTF, but I couldn't say where...
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Proudhuff on 19 November, 2019, 05:39:55 PM
I've a vague memory, but nothing solid, even after seeing that pic  :-[
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: wedgeski on 19 November, 2019, 05:50:24 PM
Lol I'd forgotten about that frame.
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Goaty on 19 November, 2019, 08:13:30 PM
Sadly only in Stallone's Judge Dredd, Simon.

(https://townsquare.media/site/622/files/2012/12/dredd23.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: AlexF on 20 November, 2019, 09:05:52 AM
Since this is a science fiction story, I wonder if judges might have a tattoo that is only visible when viewed through a judge's helmet visor (one way to spot a jimp?), or, perhaps more likely, they all have some sort of tiny embedded chip that sits under the skin somewhere that can be scanned - using an IR-beam from the helmet, praps.
These sort of chips exist in today's world, used on pets. They're about the size of a grain of rice, I believe. Not sure what you need to scan them with, I guess oyu can get an app on a phone though.

Neither of which leaves much for an artist to have any fun with! Sorry.
(I suppose a helmet-cam setting that makes use of some as-yet undiscovered part of the energy spectrum could have some funky visuals in it, a la Predator)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Steve Green on 20 November, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
IIRC Dredd did have a chest eagle as a result of Mutant/City of the Damned shenanigans at the end of 'In the year 2120' but that never appeared again (in much the same way Alpha's Bubba tattoo did)

It doesn't really make much sense to have a tattoo in case they want to go undercover anyway.
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Dash Decent on 20 November, 2019, 10:40:17 AM
There's a really clear illustration of the Judge tattoo from the Stallone movie in the "Making of" book.

Here's a copy of the page number in case you want to buy a copy to see what it looks like.

(https://i.imgur.com/gDnXaW8.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Trooper McFad on 20 November, 2019, 12:25:16 PM
It would make sense that all judges were physically  "tagged" in some way however in the future would it be a barcode?
Not long after the 1st film I thought of getting a Stallone style tattoo with numbers significant to me but I didn't want to sit there and get jagged hundreds of times 🥺 and pay for the privilege (my inner brave self keeps go on do it you big wimp)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: sheridan on 21 November, 2019, 02:27:27 AM
Quote from: Simon Fraser on 19 November, 2019, 04:26:03 PM
Hey so I need some info. Perhaps there are some Dredd experts out there that could help me.

Do MC1 Judges have ID tattoos? I seem to remember that they do. The only reference I can find after a quick Google is this , http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=specials&choice=lotf02    , which isn't exactly canon. So is there an official Justice Dept ID tat? If so what is it and where is it? I'm assuming a shoulder , but I don't know which one.

Thanks for any help. You guys are amazing.

Si.

Interesting - the number on the Lawman of the Future barcode is 210082055 whereas the one on my sticker given away free with Sugar Puffs (coincidentally unearthed just the other day) is 2205800149.  I wonder how they were coming up with the numbers in the film-related merch at the time?
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: Simon Fraser on 21 November, 2019, 02:32:22 AM
This is great , very helpful. So my takeaway is that there isn't anything that's really canon , except for the 1st Dredd movie. I'm dealing with the main Dredd continuity so that's not relevant. I can draw judges in their undies without fear.

Thank you all for your help. Especially the scanning and deep research. Take a bow ( except you Willsher! )

Cheers

Si.
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: sheridan on 21 November, 2019, 02:35:15 AM
Quote from: Simon Fraser on 21 November, 2019, 02:32:22 AM
This is great , very helpful. So my takeaway is that there isn't anything that's really canon , except for the 1st Dredd movie. I'm dealing with the main Dredd continuity so that's not relevant. I can draw judges in their undies without fear.

It's when the undies come off you have to star worrying about 'hairstyles' ;)
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 November, 2019, 09:53:50 AM
Quote from: Simon Fraser on 21 November, 2019, 02:32:22 AMI can draw judges in their undies without fear.
Ah, but what do the canon Justice Department approved U-fronts look like?

*hurls thread down a different rabbit hole*
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 21 November, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 21 November, 2019, 02:27:27 AM

Interesting - the number on the Lawman of the Future barcode is 210082055 whereas the one on my sticker given away free with Sugar Puffs (coincidentally unearthed just the other day) is 2205800149.  I wonder how they were coming up with the numbers in the film-related merch at the time?

I still have the Sugar Puffs one in a box somewhere, and I'm still considering getting a tattoo of it!   :D
Title: Re: Mega City 1 Judge ID tattoo question
Post by: CalHab on 21 November, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 21 November, 2019, 09:53:50 AM
Quote from: Simon Fraser on 21 November, 2019, 02:32:22 AMI can draw judges in their undies without fear.
Ah, but what do the canon Justice Department approved U-fronts look like?

*hurls thread down a different rabbit hole*

I seem to remember Oz featuring some suitably ridiculous McCarthy-designed Judge-pants.