just a heads up for all you fellow tooth merch collectors - there is a new magazine from the makers of SFX called Comic Heroes out on the 16 March 10 . the first issue has 2000ad articles in as well as free 2000ad fridge magnets inside! preorder yours now as i'll bet it'll sell out.
Wow! Cheers Stront!
Ssssssh, nobody tell Commando Forces or there'll be none left for the rest of us!
Excellent!
Due to a bit of a drokk up (we are not the guilty party btw) the water into wine act didn't happen as it should have...basically, don't get too excited about the magnets.
Puzzling?
I knew, as it's advertised in this weeks SFX and I was wondering what the fridge magnets are going to be.
I shall be down Smiths come the morning of the release waiting :D
Forgot to say, there may be a queue now. Especially as strontium71 has told everyone ;)
There will be 2000 AD magnets bagged with the issue - just not the ones we would have wanted...
How come you don't get to tell them which ones they can have?
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 February, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
Forgot to say, there may be a queue now. Especially as strontium71 has told everyone ;)
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oops...
Personally I don't mind what kind of fudge magnet they are, as long as I get to put them on my fridge (wife depending)
Ah, something cool to go next to the filthy fridge poetry......
I shall make an uneducated guess as to what these gifts will picture.
I reckon Dredd will be one and the 2000AD logo will be another!
or old ones they couldn't shift? :D
Well that might go some way to address concerns when this was first announced (http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,27267.0.html), however, you might want to wait and see what the contents are like before jumping in, as reaction to the SFX Comics Heroes special wasn't that great:
www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,26512.0.html
Then again if you'd spend £7.99 on some 2000AD fridge magnets then perhaps Tharg should just sell them to you direct ;)
Quote from: LARF on 16 February, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
Personally I don't mind what kind of fudge magnet they are, as long as I get to put them on my fridge (wife depending)
Fudge magnet?
FUDGE magnet? :lol:
Quote from: strontium71 on 16 February, 2010, 11:40:35 AM
just a heads up for all you fellow tooth merch collectors - there is a new magazine from the makers of SFX called Comic Heroes out on the 16 March 10 . the first issue has 2000ad articles in as well as free 2000ad fridge magnets inside! preorder yours now as i'll bet it'll sell out.
What ??
A new magazine from the makers of SFX called Comic Heroes and 2000ad features 2000ad ?
Is this a wind up ?
Actually thats pretty good news.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 February, 2010, 04:09:08 PM
I shall make an uneducated guess as to what these gifts will picture.
I reckon Dredd will be one and the 2000AD logo will be another!
Decorate the outside of the Helltrek van with them.
Quote from: LARF on 16 February, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
Personally I don't mind what kind of fudge magnet they are,
I just thought of a joke after reading "Fudge Magnet".All wasted though as its not fit for print.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 16 February, 2010, 05:55:32 PM
Quote from: LARF on 16 February, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
Personally I don't mind what kind of fudge magnet they are, as long as I get to put them on my fridge (wife depending)
Fudge magnet?
FUDGE magnet? :lol:
the fudge packer's equivalent to a fanny magnet? I knew a guy who spent one of his Summer holidays as a fudge packer (we were discussing summer jobs and he came from Cornwall, he also spent one summer in a Cornish pasty factory putting them in boxes), so I assume this would be what would happen on Friday nights when you go down the pub straight from work and reel in the womenfolk with your faintly caramelised/sugary scent.
I reckon CF should tell is if this is any good, and save the rest of us the bother.
:D
Is it the Kev Walker designed fridge magnets from way back when?
Quote from: King Trout on 16 February, 2010, 08:46:42 PM
I reckon CF should tell is if this is any good, and save the rest of us the bother.
:D
I shall make that my mission. This means a week before the release date I shall be popping into a shop I know each day that doesn't believe in embargo dates and you never know I may get it slightly before the 16th.
Not sure if this will be the final cover but found this
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-92207538504947_2092_519177293)
From here http://www.collectorsworldstore.com/feb101184.html (http://www.collectorsworldstore.com/feb101184.html) If this is the final cover doesn't look like the magnet will be with issue 1?
Nope that's not it. I have that already as it came out a few months ago and was as far as I was concerned a rip off. That was the cover of the bag and the actual cover of the mag is that picture in the bottom right corner.
The Dredd bit was a BLOODY REPRINT with a few added words here and there.
Whoops sorry. Look like the website used the image of the previous release you mentioned.
Out of interest is this the content of the issue you got?
"Comic Book Heroes is a new quarterly magazine from the makers of SFX magazine, celebrating the best in modern comics and the finest in retro. The debut issue features a guide to Iron Man ahead of the new movie. It will also boast retrospectives on Judge Dredd: The Cursed Earth and Tintin, interviews with top industry pros like Joe Quesada and Geoff Johns, the biggest comics reviews section in the business, a 6-page preview of an upcoming book, plus columnists and free gifts."
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 17 February, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
Whoops sorry. Look like the website used the image of the previous release you mentioned.
Out of interest is this the content of the issue you got?
"Comic Book Heroes is a new quarterly magazine from the makers of SFX magazine, celebrating the best in modern comics and the finest in retro. The debut issue features a guide to Iron Man ahead of the new movie. It will also boast retrospectives on Judge Dredd: The Cursed Earth and Tintin, interviews with top industry pros like Joe Quesada and Geoff Johns, the biggest comics reviews section in the business, a 6-page preview of an upcoming book, plus columnists and free gifts."
CF tasted-tested that bad boy here:
www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,26512.0.html
this blurb is actually the correct blurb for the new issue 1 as it contains the cursed earth article.
Quote from: Robo-K33F on 16 February, 2010, 02:16:25 PM
There will be 2000 AD magnets bagged with the issue - just not the ones we would have wanted...
i'm still confused as to what the ones you wanted were? 3D ones perhaps?
Quote from: strontium71 on 17 February, 2010, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Robo-K33F on 16 February, 2010, 02:16:25 PM
There will be 2000 AD magnets bagged with the issue - just not the ones we would have wanted...
i'm still confused as to what the ones you wanted were? 3D ones perhaps?
We sent them a vast selection of classic images to use, painstakingly collected after approval was passed by Tharg himself. They somehow managed to use hardly any, and what they did get printed up...god only knows where they got those images from.
Nobody came back to us for approval which is very dissapointing; another opportunity missed.
I only bring this up, as I don't want any of you guys to go out and buy this soley for the 'zarjaz'free magnets.
Sounds like "not nearly so zarjaz as perhaps they could've been" fridge magnets.
What a bunch of dicks. What a kick in the teeth as well.
Assholes!!!!
Quote from: Robo-K33F on 18 February, 2010, 09:35:22 AM
I only bring this up, as I don't want any of you guys to go out and buy this soley for the 'zarjaz'free magnets.
As if anyone in their right mind would do that :crazy:
I'll be all over that like a rash.
It would be very cool to have a Dredd fridge magnet.
Thanks for the heads up! :D
Oh, and it's not going to be about the Cursed Earth - it'll be about the Apocalypse War ...
Quote from: longmanshort on 18 February, 2010, 08:03:46 PM
Oh, and it's not going to be about the Cursed Earth - it'll be about the Apocalypse War ...
That's what you think, just look at the fridge magnet fiasco :lol:
Quote from: Robo-K33F on 18 February, 2010, 09:35:22 AM
Quote from: strontium71 on 17 February, 2010, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Robo-K33F on 16 February, 2010, 02:16:25 PM
There will be 2000 AD magnets bagged with the issue - just not the ones we would have wanted...
i'm still confused as to what the ones you wanted were? 3D ones perhaps?
We sent them a vast selection of classic images to use, painstakingly collected after approval was passed by Tharg himself. They somehow managed to use hardly any, and what they did get printed up...god only knows where they got those images from.
Nobody came back to us for approval which is very dissapointing; another opportunity missed.
As the copyright holders, can they use images you haven't sanctioned?
I know it's not worth starting a bunfight, particularly as I'm sure you want to keep SFX open to the idea of 2000AD-related articles, but would it be worth sending them a polite note to point out how much trouble you went to, and how good the images you supplied were versus the ones they used, and asking why they didn't come back for clearance?
or just send them a Rigellian hotshot, it's quicker.
QuoteThat I wanna see!
Snowy! No Snowy, NO! Snowy NO, NO SNOWY AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH! [crunch, chomp, burp]
On their facebook page is this:-
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs511.snc3/26836_352671298575_309360733575_3805906_585193_n.jpg)
It looks as if the fridge magnets are at the top of the front cover so have a look at these:-
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs491.snc3/26836_352671308575_309360733575_3805908_2755896_n.jpg)
Look at the top right of page 89:-
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs511.snc3/26836_352671293575_309360733575_3805905_6058826_n.jpg)
Splendid - Mr Ewing AND fridge magnets! Go Tharg! :D
There is a rumour on facebook that this is out now. I have to wait till 12:00 in case the postman brings me some Dredd ebay winnings before I can pop down the town, Damn!
I took a quick trip to WH Smiths and couldn't find it. I've put one on reserve at OK comics.
Steven
Damn, nothing in any of the shops down town. I even went into the embargo breaking shop (he puts everything on his shelves as soon as it arrives) and he didn't have it. Looks like I'll be up early tomorrow to get it as I have things to do a bit later!
Now I was going to read it fully and put the contents on here but after looking at page 12 I had to just type this:-
I am in here along with the cast and crew of Judge Minty. There is a full page article about the shoot with 6 pics. The best one is the cast and crew one obviously :D Right back to the reading, by the way Tharg is the guest editor.
Dude! Nice work! Congratulations! :D
Here are the magnets that are included, more than I was expecting!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/Cellar%20of%20Dredd/P3160354.jpg)
Is the content any good though ?
I like the look of the magnets! Are they sturdy enough?
I have just given it a quick scan as I'm going out to meet some old friends but I must admit I will be reading all this tonight. I never do that with SFX.
It has more than enough inside to keep comic fans happy. If no-one puts the contents down by the time I get back on the laptop later today I will write down all the contents myself ;)
Okay, I'm going to stick my nose out here as the rogue Trooper magnet isn't a piece that has been in 2000ad. It was on PJ's blog and was coloured By Steve Denton before being used as part of my Advertising banner for Zarjaz.
Therefore should PJ have been asked permission first?
Go easy on the magnets! Don't tear at them enthusiastically or the printed images will separate from the magnetic bit (sorry Tharg :()
If I can be picky, Jock's Dredd seems to have come out better than the Rogue Trooper and Danteprint (and not simply because it's bigger)
Nice to see it's not all Marvel and DC too, which was my main concern.
ooh, I like that big Dredd one!
picked up a copy at lunch but almost put it straight back. Is that the usual price? you can almost get a lap dance for that sort of money :D Look forward to giving it a good read through. Will have to be pretty special to make me buy #2 though.
Quote from: James S on 16 March, 2010, 12:28:46 PM
Is that the usual price? you can almost get a lap dance for that sort of money :D
:lol:
Ain't that the truth!
Here we go then, eye's down for a full house!
The guest editor is some green alien.
First up is 'Heat Vision' the hottest news for all things comics, this has the Judge Minty piece in it. (7 pages0
'Coming Soon' movies on the horizon. (6 pages)
'Events Diary' Hi-Ex! is the first one mentioned. (1 page)
'Iron Man 2' feature, including the ten essential stories. (10 pages)
Special comic preview:- Superman: Secret Origin! (6 pages 5 of which are the comic itself)
'Kick-Ass' feature, on page 42 is a pic of the stars in a comic shop (look above the lad on the right's head, nice model!) (12 pages, includes the art by John Romita Jr)
'Your Guide to' the DC Universe. (10 pages includes Alan Moore's Almost Crisis)
'A Guide to' Bande Dessinee. (5 pages)
'Mills Crossing' bit about some bloke called Pat Mills (1 page)
'Spotlight' Tintin. (3 pages)
'Interview' Al Ewing. (2 pages 1 is a pic of Dredd)
Superhero Supergames: Greatest 10 (Rogue Trooper in at 8) (3 pages)
'The Art of' Guy Davis, Dredd stuff on page 80. (6 pages)
'The Making of...' Superman. (5 pages)
'How to...' Write Comics, includes the editors speak, the pitch & the script (14 pages)
'Comic Icons' Constantine. ( 6 pages)
'Retrospective' Judge Dredd: The Apocalypse War (6 pages)
'Reviews' (6 pages)
'Comic Club' The Dark Knight Returns. (2 pages)
'My Inspiration' Mike Perkins (mentions 2000AD a few times) (1 page)
I suppose you want me to read the thing to you next! By the way, the price is £7.99, I had 'Guardians of the Galaxy' bagged with mine. I can't remember who was on the poster as I threw it in the bin, Dredd wasn't on it!
the 'How to write comics' has lots of familar names and toof artwork too. My free comic was Dark Reign - Dark Avengers. Recognise Dr Doom in it but it looks pretty chud.
Jesus.
That Hammerstein pic is lifted right off my website!
Lawyers!!!
WHO CARES ABOUT THE CONTENT?!? MAGNETS. SHINEY MAGNETS.
I can now post vulgar messages to myself on the fridge with my shiney Nikolai Dante fridge magnet. And my list of things to be destroyed with Rogue & Hammerstein. Happy!
That's pretty rum, Chris. I've no idea where you stand with copyright but for sure they don't have the right to use your artwork without your permission. What a bunch of numbskulls.
Yeah, it would have been nice to have been asked first...
Still, imagine all those fridges that'll be adorned with my Hammerstein.
This is all a bit rum..!
Quote from: chris_askham on 16 March, 2010, 05:28:56 PM
Yeah, it would have been nice to have been asked first...
Still, imagine all those fridges that'll be adorned with my Hammerstein.
Regardless of who owns the copyright on the Hammerstein character, the copyright on
that specific image resides with you unless you sign it away. I'd find out whether you're appropriately credited and make a major fuss to the editorial team if not -- bad enough that they've used it without asking permission (or paying you). If you don't even get any free promotion out of it, then they're taking the piss a bit ...
Cheers!
Jim
Actually, while we're at it, is that PJ Rogue picture an official piece, or a fanzine/small press illo?
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 March, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
Actually, while we're at it, is that PJ Rogue picture an official piece, or a fanzine/small press illo?
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 16 March, 2010, 11:20:39 AM
Okay, I'm going to stick my nose out here as the rogue Trooper magnet isn't a piece that has been in 2000ad. It was on PJ's blog and was coloured By Steve Denton before being used as part of my Advertising banner for Zarjaz.
Therefore should PJ have been asked permission first?
Looks as if someone's just googled "2000ad".
I imagine Tharg would be a bit annoyed. Of all the classic 2000ad images they could have used, they've gone with the work of a two bit small presser. What a cock-up.
I'd defo contact them Chris as its just plain rude.
Someone mentioned elsewhere that they were sent a load of selected images they just chose to ignore and pluck things from elsewhere. Which seems a very strange thing to do?
Strange and, let's be frank, fucking rude. It's probably not worth Twoth's time to harrass them after the fact sadly.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 16 March, 2010, 06:33:44 PM
I'd defo contact them Chris as its just plain rude.
Someone mentioned elsewhere that they were sent a load of selected images they just chose to ignore and pluck things from elsewhere. Which seems a very strange thing to do?
Yeah, I think I'll try and get hold of a copy tomorrow so I can see it with my own eyes, before I unleash the hounds
The bloody cheek of them! :(
Mind you, it's great to be 'the chosen one' even if you weren't consulted...
You think that's bad. In the Judge Minty article they credit Termight Replicas as supplying the costumes when it is in fact Daniel Carey-George's hard work (and bloody amazing stuff it is as well).
That's a bit fucking shit.
Haven't seen the mag yet - presumably they just googled Dredd Helmet and took the first hit as the source of the costumes.
Shabby.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 March, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
You think that's bad. In the Judge Minty article they credit Termight Replicas as supplying the costumes when it is in fact Daniel Carey-George's hard work (and bloody amazing stuff it is as well).
If you ask me, this has got the Dictators Of Zrag's fingerprints all over it...
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 16 March, 2010, 05:20:01 PM
That's pretty rum, Chris. I've no idea where you stand with copyright but for sure they don't have the right to use your artwork without your permission. What a bunch of numbskulls.
You could argue it the other way did Chris ask before he used a picture of Hammerstein 8-)
Well it's nicely produced, the articles read well and are informative. My only gripe is the massive price tag. Discounting the free gifts which are essentially the same old tat you get with any childrens comic to pusude them to buy it (with better art admitedly), are magazines usually in the £8 bracket? I can't believe I'm that out of touch. To put it in context you can get the 'Origins' graphic novel from Amazon, delivered, and have change for that price.
Gah, and why do youngsters all dress so outlandishly, and listen to music too loud. In my day ...grumble grumble
Quote from: Steve ^McWild^ Green on 16 March, 2010, 10:17:30 PM
That's a bit fucking shit.
Haven't seen the mag yet - presumably they just googled Dredd Helmet and took the first hit as the source of the costumes.
Shabby.
I doubt they even got that far. I ran a competition and an ad in SFX last summer (with very little impact on my hits and orders) so they probably didn't research at all. I've posted a correction on my twitter feed.
Cheers,
Wake
It's a lot of money for what looks very similar to the bits of the Meg I don't read. I'm not sure I'll bother.
- Trout
Cheers Wake,
they seem a bit shambolic, what with using fan artwork for the fridge magnets.
- Steve
Wow. Imagine how crap the "journos" involved must feel being ripped a new one by an entire web community.
Next time, check your facts. Which should have been what you did in the first place. Idiots.
Maybe someone ought to post a comment on their forum?
http://www.sfx.co.uk/sfx-forum/showthread.php?t=1912 (http://www.sfx.co.uk/sfx-forum/showthread.php?t=1912)
Yes, I'd also like to thank Wake for posting the correction.
Having spent a good deal of hard work, money and personal time with Steve S and Steve G over the last two years on the Minty project, its hard to imagine even basic facts on the project can be so badly recorded by those employed to write about it. The facts are all up there in black and white on our sites, and they have been ignored.
Its amazingly bad for something that, at such an early stage in its life, has produced some horrendous errors.
Surely the first edition should have been checked, double checked, and checked again.
Bad press, poor research and causing upset to the very people its supposed to be promoting?
Enough said.
Well said Teivion.
Quote from: LARF on 17 March, 2010, 10:35:24 AM
Maybe someone ought to post a comment on their forum?
Done. (http://www.sfx.co.uk/sfx-forum/showthread.php?p=781879#post781879)
(Just checked with Steve Denton and he knew nowt about it, either!)
Cheers!
Jim
Looking like PJ Holden knows about his Rogue being used. I'd imagine he isnt a chap you wanna mess with and being a scarily intelligent guy with regards all this digital media and stuff I'd bet he's well up on artistic copyright as well
This could get interesting
Quote from: bluemeanie on 17 March, 2010, 11:51:23 AM
Looking like PJ Holden knows about his Rogue being used.
Can't think how
that happened.
*walks away whistling innocently*
Cheers
Jim
**SOMEONE** bought it to my attention. Cheers **SOMEONE**. I'm sort of torn here, on the one hand - 'hey cool, my art* as a fridge magnet'. On the other hand 'hey, wtf? my art as a fridge magnet'.
Anyhue, I'm trying to find someone to talk to...
-pj
(Mine and Steven Denton's that is)
PJ, I think they at least owe you, Steve and Chris an apology for not asking your permission first.
SFX have posted this on twitter:
Quote@pauljholden All images on the magnets were supplied to Comic Heroes (http://tinyurl.com/y9pqcke ) directly by 2000AD. Email us for info.
Quote from: Wake on 17 March, 2010, 12:26:48 PM
SFX have posted this on twitter:
Quote@pauljholden All images on the magnets were supplied to Comic Heroes (http://tinyurl.com/y9pqcke ) directly by 2000AD. Email us for info.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing that, Wake.
However, are we to believe that -- when approached for images -- someone at the 2000AD office chose to ignore the vast library of work they
know that they have commissioned and own the rights to and instead thought "I know, I'll Google 'Hammerstein' and 'Rogue Trooper' and e-mail them images off sites belonging to people who
don't work for us" ...?
I will confess to being very dubious!
Cheers
Jim
Something's amiss. Kinda clashes with what k33f was saying, doesn't it?
Quote from: Robo-K33F on 18 February, 2010, 09:35:22 AM
We sent them a vast selection of classic images to use, painstakingly collected after approval was passed by Tharg himself. They somehow managed to use hardly any, and what they did get printed up...god only knows where they got those images from.
Nobody came back to us for approval which is very dissapointing; another opportunity missed.
Quote from: uncle fester on 17 March, 2010, 12:35:04 PM
Something's amiss. Kinda clashes with what k33f was saying, doesn't it?
Hmm. So, it looks a lot like: swiping artwork off the internet without asking permission and then telling a bare-faced porkie about it.
Way to build bridges with the fanbase, guys!
Cheers
Jim
I suspect there may have been human error in the chain of approval, before we all start demanding for mekquake.
-pj
If I were a betting man, I would have a fiver on the old favourite "placeholder artwork slipped through" explanation making an appearance in this matter before very much longer.
Nonetheless, before making a statement like :the images were supplied ... directly by 2000D", it's usually wise to make sure that this is actually the case!
Cheers
Jim
Think of it as free advertising/publicity.
:lol:
Seriously there might be some mileage in this regarding copyright issues if anyone feels inclined to chase it up.I havent seen these things close up and also i am not inclined to buy this magazine because of its price and the pilfering of images but is there anything written on the magnets in small print as in copyright etc ?
I guess that you all assert your copyright on your respective websites ?
Whats more you would think that a publication like SFX would understand about copyright issues.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 17 March, 2010, 12:51:44 PM
If I were a betting man, I would have a fiver on the old favourite "placeholder artwork slipped through" explanation making an appearance in this matter before very much longer.
Nonetheless, before making a statement like :the images were supplied ... directly by 2000D", it's usually wise to make sure that this is actually the case!
Cheers
Jim
...and being in the design industry we all know the placeholder artwork excuse is a load of bollocks because:
- if you're efficient you put a PHAW mark over the image
- you use RGB artwork which either gets spotted at pre-flight or at printers proof stage
- the image is low res so is pixelated on reproduction / proof stage it's spotted
Coming from the Mag industry the probable cause is that the fridge magnets were given to the Junior Designer / Freelance / A. Other department - the Ed. / Art Ed. never checked them, or if they did they never checked the provenance of each image through the library and checked the ©. It was a first issue so everyone was working up to the wire to get it right.
No excuses though esp. with artwork not belonging (meaning has been bought / commissioned from the artist by Rebellion) to 2000AD being used.
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Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 12:44:23 PM
I suspect there may have been human error in the chain of approval, before we all start demanding for mekquake.
-pj
Hey, give a droid a break. Mek-Quake hasn't had dinner for ages. HUNGRY.
In all seriousness, this is fucked up and while I understand that Rebellion wouldn't necessarily be up for a spot of conflict, Chris & PJ should DEFINITELY speak to someone.
Quote from: LARF on 17 March, 2010, 01:15:18 PM
...and being in the design industry we all know the placeholder artwork excuse is a load of bollocks because:
You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment. </urquhart>
Cheers!
Jim
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 17 March, 2010, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 12:44:23 PM
I suspect there may have been human error in the chain of approval, before we all start demanding for mekquake.
-pj
Hey, give a droid a break. Mek-Quake hasn't had dinner for ages. HUNGRY.
In all seriousness, this is fucked up and while I understand that Rebellion wouldn't necessarily be up for a spot of conflict, Chris & PJ should DEFINITELY speak to someone.
That being the editor of the magazine.
Not entirely sure how the fan art got into the pile of approved art for use by SFX (whether it's 2000AD/SFX that included it is vague) but, in either instance, SFX published in good faith after approval.
They're happy to issue a credit/url to all artists on their website/magazine.
(Though now I feel guilty that I'll get a credit when, for example, Jock probably didn't...)
-pj
OK ... I was wrong about the placeholder thing and PJ -- as usual -- proves to be right.
Apologies to anyone whose integrity I have impugned by implication. Henceforth, I shall chant the mantra "PJ is always right" before committing any opinion to the posterity of the interweb.
Cheers
Jim
Wow. PJ right, JC wrong. It's like bloody animal farm round here....
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 17 March, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
Wow. PJ right, JC wrong. It's like bloody animal farm round here....
Oh, no ... PJ is always right. I just need to be reminded of it from time to time.
Cheers!
Jim
Well all the fridge magnet stuff aside I picked this up at lunch today and have to say it looks like it'll be an interesting read. There's a good mix of articles and (the quality of which I can't yet comment on) and it seems like it might be an up market stab at the much missed 'Comics International', it even has Dez Skinn in it. The only thing holding it back (assuming the articles live up to their potential) is the price tag. Even knowing full well how much it cost I still whinced when I handed over a tenner and got two coins back as change!
Oh and I'm in it too so that's nice.
Two coins Colin, there should have been at least three ;)
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2010, 02:11:23 PM
Two coins Colin, there should have been at least three ;)
a £2 and a 1p ?
Quote from: James S on 17 March, 2010, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2010, 02:11:23 PM
Two coins Colin, there should have been at least three ;)
a £2 and a 1p ?
Oh my god, you have £2 coins here? Nah, sorry, mate. This must be the wrong universe...
*scuttles off*
-pj
I'm a big fan of the £2 coin, it feels weighty and significent... except when that and a 1p coin make up you're change from a tenner for a magazine... what broken record...
Not sure I mentioned the price :o £8!!
What a Twat am I :-[ I suppose I could say that we still ain't got them in Kent but I'll only be digging a deeper hole.
I shall bite the bullet and take all the flak for having forgotten all about the £2 coin.
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 17 March, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
Wow. PJ right, JC wrong. It's like bloody animal farm round here....
Everyone is right but some are more right than others.
Quote from: James S on 17 March, 2010, 03:02:07 PM
Not sure I mentioned the price :o £8!!
Sweet Jaysus! :o
That would go a long way to buying me one of Dredd's case files!
Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
Not entirely sure how the fan art got into the pile of approved art for use by SFX (whether it's 2000AD/SFX that included it is vague) but, in either instance, SFX published in good faith after approval.
They're happy to issue a credit/url to all artists on their website/magazine.
(Though now I feel guilty that I'll get a credit when, for example, Jock probably didn't...)
-pj
All's well that ends well.
Sell-out!
Cheers
Jim
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That's my middle name.
Quote from: chris_askham on 17 March, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
Not entirely sure how the fan art got into the pile of approved art for use by SFX (whether it's 2000AD/SFX that included it is vague) but, in either instance, SFX published in good faith after approval.
They're happy to issue a credit/url to all artists on their website/magazine.
(Though now I feel guilty that I'll get a credit when, for example, Jock probably didn't...)
-pj
All's well that ends well.
Indeed - plus that fact while I might have ummed and ahhed over getting this, the possibility of having Holden/Denton and Askham fridge magnets has nudged me over from "doubting" to "possibly buying if the newsagent has a copy when I'm scouting around for a birthday card" (I'm sure they'll be delighted by that news ;) ).
This also made Bleeding Cool via PJ's Tweets (that doesn't sound right), I'll see if I can get Chris a mention too:
www.bleedingcool.com/2010/03/17/actually-swiped-file-pj-holden-and-sfx/
Nice avatar, Chris. Did you scan it off those fridge magnets?
(Runs for cover.)
Fucking Hell, I just had a look at Bleeding Cool to see what was written and I couldn't believe it.
There on the bloody screen is the photo that I took for this forum, yes THIS forum. I spent seconds taking that and at least a minute uploading and posting it on this site only for some git to use it elsewhere.
I now know how all you artists feel when this happens ;)
Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 01:33:37 PM(Though now I feel guilty that I'll get a credit when, for example, Jock probably didn't...)
Perhaps send them a full list of credits? I'm not very good on such things, so the head of Tharg has stumped me.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
Fucking Hell, I just had a look at Bleeding Cool to see what was written and I couldn't believe it.
There on the bloody screen is the photo that I took for this forum, yes THIS forum. I spent seconds taking that and at least a minute uploading and posting it on this site only for some git to use it elsewhere.
I now know how all you artists feel when this happens ;)
So an article on swiping has an image swiped from you? Send for the Irony Police!
Quote from: Emperor on 17 March, 2010, 05:34:24 PMThis also made Bleeding Cool via PJ's Tweets (that doesn't sound right), I'll see if I can get Chris a mention too:
www.bleedingcool.com/2010/03/17/actually-swiped-file-pj-holden-and-sfx/
And that has now been updated to mention Chris.
Head of tharg is by Boo Cook.
(I AM very good at these things, I used to be able to identify an artist by looking at a couple of rendered lines...)
-pj
Quote from: Emperor on 17 March, 2010, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 01:33:37 PM(Though now I feel guilty that I'll get a credit when, for example, Jock probably didn't...)
Perhaps send them a full list of credits? I'm not very good on such things, so the head of Tharg has stumped me.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 17 March, 2010, 06:17:15 PM
Fucking Hell, I just had a look at Bleeding Cool to see what was written and I couldn't believe it.
There on the bloody screen is the photo that I took for this forum, yes THIS forum. I spent seconds taking that and at least a minute uploading and posting it on this site only for some git to use it elsewhere.
I now know how all you artists feel when this happens ;)
So an article on swiping has an image swiped from you? Send for the Irony Police!
Quote from: Emperor on 17 March, 2010, 05:34:24 PMThis also made Bleeding Cool via PJ's Tweets (that doesn't sound right), I'll see if I can get Chris a mention too:
www.bleedingcool.com/2010/03/17/actually-swiped-file-pj-holden-and-sfx/
And that has now been updated to mention Chris.
Thanks for that Emp. By the end of the week I'll have a number 1 single, and be photographed in Heat, alongside Jordan. Great stuff.
Fridge Magnet Gate! :)
Quote from: chris_askham on 17 March, 2010, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 17 March, 2010, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 17 March, 2010, 05:34:24 PMThis also made Bleeding Cool via PJ's Tweets (that doesn't sound right), I'll see if I can get Chris a mention too:
www.bleedingcool.com/2010/03/17/actually-swiped-file-pj-holden-and-sfx/
And that has now been updated to mention Chris.
Thanks for that Emp. By the end of the week I'll have a number 1 single, and be photographed in Heat, alongside Jordan. Great stuff.
I was going to say milk it for all its worth, but certain types around here might try and read too much into that (especially in connection to Jordan).
Instead I'd caution against setting your sights so low, isn't Angelina Jolie single at the moment?
Anyway this is a good opportunity to get some free publicity, fingers crossed it works out for everyone. If nothing else I assume you three are getting free copies of the magazine?
Quote from: pauljholden on 17 March, 2010, 06:35:34 PM
Head of tharg is by Boo Cook.
(I AM very good at these things, I used to be able to identify an artist by looking at a couple of rendered lines...)
Good call!!
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 17 March, 2010, 02:55:02 PM
I'm a big fan of the £2 coin, it feels weighty and significent... except when that and a 1p coin make up you're change from a tenner for a magazine... what broken record...
i miss pound notes.
Well read this last night... and there's the problem. While its a good read in places its nothing more than a pleasent distraction and doesn't have anything too insightful to say. Now if it wasn't for the Nemesis tease I'd defo miss the next one (after all I manage to avoid the Meg cos I can't justify the cost) ... but a nice chunky Nemesis retrospective might mean I'll give it one more try.
Courtesy of Mr Holden, via Facebook:
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/03/18/comic-heroes-magnets-credits/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/03/18/comic-heroes-magnets-credits/)
Is this an end to the scandal that will, for years to come, only be known as Fridgemagnetgate?
Cheers!
Jim
Its only the end when they get the put on the comp list... well I say that its got nowt to do with me but I think they deverse a freebie!
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 March, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/03/18/comic-heroes-magnets-credits/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/03/18/comic-heroes-magnets-credits/)
My favourite bit of that is when they end it with "Thanks guys!" ......
No!
Never forgive! Never forget! Never for fun!
To be fair, PJ has been at pains to state that he is happy that SFX/Future published in good faith, honestly believing that they had the appropriate approval to do so ...
Cheers
Jim
You're absolutely right. I was getting on my high horse. Apologies to you both.
Quote from: uncle fester on 18 March, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
You're absolutely right. I was getting on my high horse. Apologies to you both.
I don't think your horse was any higher than mine, TBH.
Cock-ups happen and if PJ, Steve and Chris get a bit of free publicity out of it, well, it wasn't all bad, was it? :-)
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: His Lordship rac on 18 March, 2010, 03:46:08 PM
No!
Never forgive! Never forget! Never for fun!
Never Ever bloody anything ever !
At the price of that magazine, they should be furnished with free copies.
I looked at it in wH Smiths today, then put it down cos it was too expensive. Magnets or not.
We all know that PJ is a really nice guy but it is one hell of a stupid cock up.
What doesnt sit right with me is that images were supplied, so how did other images get used.
Somehow it all stinks.
Quote from: W. R. Logan on 18 March, 2010, 04:27:18 PM
What doesnt sit right with me is that images were supplied, so how did other images get used.
You know how sometimes you know stuff that other people don't but you can't say anything specific, Logan?
Well, take it from me that it doesn't stink and it's probably best to let the matter go if PJ, Steve and Chris are happy to ...
Cheers
Jim
QuoteYou know how sometimes you know stuff that other people don't but you can't say anything specific, Logan?
ok
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 March, 2010, 04:09:33 PM
Quote from: uncle fester on 18 March, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
You're absolutely right. I was getting on my high horse. Apologies to you both.
I don't think your horse was any higher than mine, TBH.
Cock-ups happen and if PJ, Steve and Chris get a bit of free publicity out of it, well, it wasn't all bad, was it? :-)
Cheers
Jim
And I even got the Fractal Friction url in there too, for all it's worth.
GLad this has all ended well - especially for you Chris (nice one bagging us a mention for FF ;))
And now that you're properly credited, you can relax and bask in the glory of the fact that your Hammerstein was chosen, alongside work by PJ and Jock. Now that's fucking cool, if you'll pardon my french.
Quote from: chris_askham on 18 March, 2010, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 March, 2010, 04:09:33 PM
Quote from: uncle fester on 18 March, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
You're absolutely right. I was getting on my high horse. Apologies to you both.
I don't think your horse was any higher than mine, TBH.
Cock-ups happen and if PJ, Steve and Chris get a bit of free publicity out of it, well, it wasn't all bad, was it? :-)
Cheers
Jim
And I even got the Fractal Friction url in there too, for all it's worth.
I just saw that!! Excellent work, now I really do have to buy a copy despite the newsagents I tried not stocking it.
Quote from: Emperor on 18 March, 2010, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: chris_askham on 18 March, 2010, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 March, 2010, 04:09:33 PM
Quote from: uncle fester on 18 March, 2010, 04:02:00 PM
You're absolutely right. I was getting on my high horse. Apologies to you both.
I don't think your horse was any higher than mine, TBH.
Cock-ups happen and if PJ, Steve and Chris get a bit of free publicity out of it, well, it wasn't all bad, was it? :-)
Cheers
Jim
And I even got the Fractal Friction url in there too, for all it's worth.
I just saw that!! Excellent work, now I really do have to buy a copy despite the newsagents I tried not stocking it.
Yeah, and get that Hammerstein on yer fridge.
AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF YER!!!
Yes boss.
Anyway the EIC of SFX dropped by BC and dropped this note in:
www.bleedingcool.com/forums/showthread.php?14277-Actually-Swiped-File-PJ-Holden-And-SFX-s-Comics-Heroes-(UPDATE)&p=69780#post69780
Which, I think, concludes this segment of the saga.