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Started by The Legendary Shark, 09 April, 2010, 03:59:03 PM

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Steve Green

Past couple of years - may have been longer (time seems meaningless these days) but seems to have ramped up in the past 18 months or so.

M.I.K.

He's certainly been acting like a bit of a git online for years. This random person's blog post from 2012 should give a general idea... http://richardhcooper.blogspot.com/2012/05/look-at-conduct-of-graham-linehan-and.html

(I read another person's blog a few years ago detailing similar behaviour, but can't find it now, so that one'll have to do.)

He also did a very weird thing a couple of years ago when he posted a picture of someone's mother on twitter and asked them if they thought she'd be proud of them, after said person called Linehan a rude name. The picture of the bloke's mother wasn't from twitter but from an unconnected facebook account, meaning Linehan had to go looking for it.

radiator

Twitter brings out the absolute worst in everyone, eventually. I stopped using it years ago, and I can't fathom why anyone still wants to be on there.

JOE SOAP



I blame a private Catholic school education, but hey, a least twitter's share price gets a bump from our shared narrative collapse!

TordelBack

Talking of the possibility of redemption,  what the feck is Alastair Campbell up to? The Prince of Lies himself,  who must bear some heavy  responsibility for the degradation of politics that has gifted us Trump and Brexit, on top of his share of hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, is now draping himself in the People's Vote flag. I was all for it before,  now I have doubts. I acknowledge the good work he's done for mental health in recent years, but surely the Real Malcolm Tucker is still poison for any political campaign?   Shoo, shoo!

JayzusB.Christ

And still they feed Peter Casey the publicity he craves.  He didn't win the fecking election; he came a distant second.  It worries me: Trump was once a joke, as was Bolsonaro. 
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

Professor Bear

There's a bit in The Lobby where the Associated Press releases 50-odd pre-written articles to support fabricated claims of antisemitism against UC Campus students when they voted to support BDS at a student council meeting that's pretty much all you need to know.  New media outlets like Huffington Post and Buzzfeed are also outed as enthusiastic tools of the Israeli lobby in a far-reaching spin programme aimed at undermining the Western left by deliberately emboldening the far right - at one point, one of the Lobby's spies admits that their actions in faking Antisemitism had led to a real Antisemitic attack on a Jewish college dormitory by "some passing neo Nazis or something" that they then blamed on those students on campus that supported BDS.
Anecdotally, I've noticed an awful lot of Twitter talk from centrists espousing the "Nazis were actually left wing" line, and Norman "Tarzan" Tebbit in the House cited the murderer of Jo Cox as being left wing.

The far right are being rehabilitated before our eyes.  This is not going anywhere good.

Tjm86

Quote from: TordelBack on 29 October, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
Luckily the issue at its heart isn't complicated at all,  listen to what people say about their own gender identity,

At the very real risk of sticking my head in the lion's jaws so to speak, I do find myself wondering if perhaps this is something that needs considering from a different direction.  Feel free to shoot down some very poorly formed thoughts and educate me correctly, but is it possible that there is actually an issue with how people define their own gender identity that a lot of this is throwing up?

I'm thinking about comicgate and some of the reactions to recasting major Marvel characters as female or raising the profile of their sexual orientation.  All this at a time when core ideas about historically defined gender identity has become so radically open but at the same time intrinsically linked with a person's core identity.  So what has historically been a source of security and identification for a group of individuals who already have their gender identity defined externally by others (think about it, masculinity for instance has for a long time had very specific connotations that can result in rather traumatic experiences for non conformists) is suddenly being transformed in a way that may well be troubling.

Quote from: Funt Solo on 29 October, 2018, 05:55:42 PM
We all have to be given room to evolve our thinking.

I think this is perhaps the most astute comment that I have seen in a long while on this issue.  A lot of folks are struggling with these issues and need the time and space to get there.  Speaking personally, I'm confused as hell at times regarding my gendered identity, in fact I'm confused about many aspects of my identity.  I don't think it is that easy to define myself although I have a rather nasty habit of letting other people define and limit me in quite negative ways.

In terms of evolving thinking, there are things about the #metoo movement that have made me incredibly uncomfortable when I've reflected on my past, particularly now that I am the father of two daughters..  That's not necessarily a bad thing because it has transformed my thinking and behaviour.  The sorts of conversations that we would have considered appropriate in the crew room out in Germany are ones that I view quite differently now.  My first thought when someone talks about pornography now tends to be "but that is someone's daughter ..."  These things are not static.

So I guess I'm with Funt Solo with regards to everyone needing to take a deep breath and try to see things through someone else's eyes for a change.  It's something that tends to happen quite well here.  Folks are open to being educated and willing to recognise the limits of their understanding.  It just needs to happen on a much larger scale.

Anyone for a quick round of Kumbaya?


TordelBack

#14708
Holy crap can someone please just burn the BBC news and current affairs department to the ground.They have genuinely moved the needle on the Brexit record back to the start and changed the label to 'Irexit'. Go. Away.

Over on Twitter I have supposed nationalists comparing the Irish economy and society of 1973 to Canada,  Norway, Japan and Singapore in an effort to prove to me that the EU has been nothing but a drain on us. I just can't listen to this stuff. Again.

Smith


JayzusB.Christ

Quote from: TordelBack on 04 November, 2018, 11:44:58 AM
Holy crap can someone please just burn the BBC news and current affairs department to the ground.They have genuinely moved the needle on the Brexit record back to the start and changed the label to 'Irexit'. Go. Away.


For fuxake. It reminds me of the crew of the Black Freighter, cheering on other souls to join them on their voyage towards nothing.

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

Definitely Not Mister Pops

Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 04 November, 2018, 05:49:55 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 04 November, 2018, 11:44:58 AM
Holy crap can someone please just burn the BBC news and current affairs department to the ground.They have genuinely moved the needle on the Brexit record back to the start and changed the label to 'Irexit'. Go. Away.


For fuxake. It reminds me of the crew of the Black Freighter, cheering on other souls to join them on their voyage towards nothing.

I saw the best response to the Brits suggesting Ireland should leave the EU too. It was on reddit of all places, and it went:

QuoteWhy the fuck would we want to get in your clown car?
You may quote me on that.

IndigoPrime

I'm sure there are quite a few Brits who genuinely think Ireland is some quaint little colony that'll see the error of its ways any day now and rejoin the only union that matters. I'm very happy to see Ireland's response to that is: FUCK, NO. I'm just hoping Ireland's general goodwill and good nature extends to me when my extended family finally provide me with the documentation I need to get an Irish passport.


JOE SOAP

Quote from: TordelBack on 04 November, 2018, 11:44:58 AM
Over on Twitter I have supposed nationalists comparing the Irish economy and society of 1973 to Canada,  Norway, Japan and Singapore in an effort to prove to me that the EU has been nothing but a drain on us. I just can't listen to this stuff. Again.

RT – surprise surprise – are pushing the same narrative.


JayzusB.Christ

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 04 November, 2018, 07:45:43 PM
I'm sure there are quite a few Brits who genuinely think Ireland is some quaint little colony that'll see the error of its ways any day now and rejoin the only union that matters. I'm very happy to see Ireland's response to that is: FUCK, NO. I'm just hoping Ireland's general goodwill and good nature extends to me when my extended family finally provide me with the documentation I need to get an Irish passport.

My mother is a British citizen, and after over 50 years of living in Ireland is applying for Irish citizenship.  You are very welcome here in my book, IP; though I'm beginning to wonder if, as a newly-assigned foreigner, you'll be welcome in your own country.  A lot of people there don't seem to like that kind of thing very much.

Maybe I'm being grossly unfair but I have to admit when I see the many stag and hen parties in Temple Bar these days, I can't help wondering how many of them voted to m make future trips much more difficult for themselves and for future generations.

Also, I'm having that clown car quote.
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"