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Started by Tjm86, 20 September, 2018, 09:12:29 PM

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IndigoPrime

Quote from: Funt Solo on 25 September, 2018, 04:40:09 AMThe guy's main complaint seems to be (on the strength of a 4-minute trailer) that Jodie Whittaker is demonstrably a bad actor.
On the basis of Attack the Block alone, that argument can be hurled into the bloody sea.

TordelBack

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 25 September, 2018, 08:57:22 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 25 September, 2018, 04:40:09 AMThe guy's main complaint seems to be (on the strength of a 4-minute trailer) that Jodie Whittaker is demonstrably a bad actor.
On the basis of Attack the Block alone, that argument can be hurled into the bloody sea.

Reasoned argument doesn't get you 6K+ subscribers. Claim that illogically shoehorning incompetent women and gays into everything is a soy-based socialist conspiracy to commit white genocide and Bob's yer uncle.  But never your aunt.

IndigoPrime

To be fair, now I think about it, he probably also didn't watch Attack the Block, given that it's SJW DIVERSITY WAAAAH or something. (Mrs G and I rewatched this quite recently with friends from the US who'd never seen it before. They thought it was great.)

Hawkmumbler

I lot of people seem to forget that time Romana regenerated into a 4 foot tall blue woman, and i'm sure thats more of a stretch to Time lord regeneration cycles than cross gender transitioning. Especially considering the later has happened multiple times in the EU and the former...'checks'....yeah, not even once again.

IndigoPrime

It's like Thor, isn't it? People losing their fucking minds about Thor as a WUMMUN, but it's fine for him to be a frog or an alien. Just as long as they have a penis! That is all that matters!

TordelBack

I don't think you get it,  IP.  Women,  gays and non-whites are simply inferior and unrepresentative of the real world,  where only straight white blokes do anything worthwhile: that other lot are only good for fucking, interior design and cleaning toilets .  They are only cast in these things to appease the PC overlords.  Frogs,  space aliens,  Frankensteins, cyborgs, these are all included due to demonstrable individual merit, not liberal agenda fiat. You can't have equality without quality.

Christ, I should get myself a YouTube channel.

ABCwarBOT

Quote from: TordelBack on 25 September, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
I don't think you get it,  IP.  Women,  gays and non-whites are simply inferior and unrepresentative of the real world,  where only straight white blokes do anything worthwhile: that other lot are only good for fucking, interior design and cleaning toilets .  They are only cast in these things to appease the PC overlords.  Frogs,  space aliens,  Frankensteins, cyborgs, these are all included due to demonstrable individual merit, not liberal agenda fiat. You can't have equality without quality.

Christ, I should get myself a YouTube channel.


That's a total exaggeration.  Most people are just saying they don't like the idea of a female doctor so  please don't twist thngs around.  Nobody has to apologise for not wanting to see a female doctor. 

Hawkmumbler

Your victim complex is showing ABCwarBOT.

ABCwarBOT

Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 25 September, 2018, 11:56:32 AM
Your victim complex is showing ABCwarBOT.


Funny I don't feel like a victim.

Tiplodocus

Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 25 September, 2018, 11:55:50 AM
Most people are just saying they don't like the idea of a female doctor...

But why? There is literally no good reason to bring gender into the casting of this fictional character who can transform. None. Canon, as quoted above, proves the character can be any gender. So if you can't provide a good reason, we can only assume bad ones.
Be excellent to each other. And party on!

Bolt-01

Maybe if it was retitled to Nurse Who?

(Mind, in my experience it is actually the nurses who know what to do in the A&E and make sure the doc's don't get in the way...)

TordelBack

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Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 25 September, 2018, 11:55:50 AMNobody has to apologise for not wanting to see a female doctor.

But asserting as incontrovertible fact that an established actress isn't able for the part that at least 15* male actors have played on the basis of a few minutes of shouty BBC trailer, as that YouTube drivel does? That's okay?

You're perfectly entitled not to like the concept, and even the casting.  But you're citing aspects of a hugely misogynistic online culture to explain why.


*A very conservative estimate.

Hawkmumbler

We're also over looking the fact the Doctor HAS been a woman before. Jut not OUR Doctor.


ABCwarBOT

Lumley was good as a spoof/joke Doctor on Comic Relief.

SmallBlueThing(Reborn)

I must confess that I'm another one who really doesn't want to see a female Doctor, and won't be watching the new series as a result. Dr Who is franchise, a brand, and it's long since stopped being one of which I feel compelled to experience *everything*. In much the same way as I love Marvel Studios movies, but don't see any reason to watch all the ones produced by other license holders, this doesn't feel like the Dr Who I want to watch, so I won't.
See also 'Class' and The Sarah Jane Adventures. And Torchwood Miracle Day. Or the vast majority of the tie-in novels Dr Who has generated along with the audios or the comics.
While I agree the "canon" has been retrofitted to allow for Time Lord gender swaps, this has come largely from the work of Steven Moffat, and frankly I'd much rather he had never gotten his hands on the show in the first place. He ran it into the ground and for me at least, killed it stone dead.
The combination of Chibnall and Whittaker is, I'm afraid, not my bag.

SBT