The Political Thread

[JayzusB.Christ]

Some what bemused to hear the top-of-the-hour news summary on Radio 4 refer to the verdict being in relation to "George Floyd, who died after Chauvin knelt on his neck for over nine minutes", as if there still might be some disconnect between those two events. Surely "…who was killed by Chauvin, who knelt on his neck for over nine minutes" would have been a more accurate summary?

I'm going to be generous and suggest that they still haven't quite got used to the post-verdict language.  Hopefully history will record it as 'George Floyd, who was murdered by Derek Chauvin.'

In related news, why the absolute feck do I ever look at the comments section in thejournal.ie? 'I'm just saying that a repeat criminal with drug problems is no major loss to the world', etc, ad fucking nauseum.  That's serial killer logic.

[sheridan]

Some what bemused to hear the top-of-the-hour news summary on Radio 4 refer to the verdict being in relation to "George Floyd, who died after Chauvin knelt on his neck for over nine minutes", as if there still might be some disconnect between those two events. Surely "…who was killed by Chauvin, who knelt on his neck for over nine minutes" would have been a more accurate summary?

Is that really what they said?  Floyd didn't die after anything - it was while Chauvin was kneeling on his neck.  From what I understand he died some time before the knee was removed.

[IndigoPrime]

Still, nice to see Nancy Pelosi *checks notes* thanking George Floyd for *rechecks notes, just in case I’m going insane* sacrificing his life for justice.

I don’t even. The world is broken.

[Mister Pops]

In related news, why the absolute feck do I ever look at the comments section in thejournal.ie?

I often compare this sort of thing to swimming in a sewer then complaining about the smell, but I've come to realise that this comparison is flawed because sewers actually serve an important function in society.

[JayzusB.Christ]

In related news, why the absolute feck do I ever look at the comments section in thejournal.ie?

I often compare this sort of thing to swimming in a sewer then complaining about the smell, but I've come to realise that this comparison is flawed because sewers actually serve an important function in society.

You're right, of course. One day I'll learn my lesson.

[Funt Solo]

In related news, why the absolute feck do I ever look at the comments section in thejournal.ie? 'I'm just saying that a repeat criminal with drug problems is no major loss to the world', etc, ad fucking nauseum.  That's serial killer logic.

It's not too far away from the defense case in the trial, and it gets to the heart of the problem in a lot of cases similar to this one: the victims are seen as less than human by the perpetrators, and by those who defend the perpetrators.

Chauvin put a man down, while he knew he was being filmed, and some part of him assumed that either it was the right thing to do or that he'd get away with it even if it wasn't.

My daughter asked why he did it at all, and I had to tell her that we'll never get a clear answer to that because Chauvin isn't going to explain himself. (She knows some of the wider context of race relations and a history of injustice, but I'm always trying to strike a balance between informing her and at the same time avoiding traumatizing her. Does anyone have a really good book on How To Correctly Parent..?)

[JayzusB.Christ]

In related news, why the absolute feck do I ever look at the comments section in thejournal.ie? 'I'm just saying that a repeat criminal with drug problems is no major loss to the world', etc, ad fucking nauseum.  That's serial killer logic.

It's not too far away from the defense case in the trial, and it gets to the heart of the problem in a lot of cases similar to this one: the victims are seen as less than human by the perpetrators, and by those who defend the perpetrators.

True enough - having looked (again! Why do I do it?) at the comment I half-quoted, I see I missed a bit at the end - 'or his family'.  Now that's psychopath stuff.  And it's just one of many similar ones.