Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

[The Legendary Shark]

Heh, The Thing's definitely in my Top Five.

[SIP]

Well, I saw it!

And yeah.......sigh, crushing disappointment. I really didn't like it.

Won't spoil for anyone, but im not bothering with a second cinema viewing I don't think.

Modern star wars is getting more and more unsatisfying for me with each subsequent film.

[radiator]

Skim-reading to avoid spoilers, but man, this one doesn't seem to be going down very well so far...

[Dr Feeley Good]

Watched at 12.00 last night after trooping the Printworks in Manchester...can't say much without giving anything away but I hated it ! Absolutely dreadful! I can honestly say it is the worst Star Wars movie ever !

[dweezil2]

Watched at 12.00 last night after trooping the Printworks in Manchester...can't say much without giving anything away but I hated it ! Absolutely dreadful! I can honestly say it is the worst Star Wars movie ever !

I don't think it's 'Attack Of The Clones' bad, but it's scrappy stuff for sure!

[JOE SOAP]

Including fluffy bears. Concluded with fluffy bears.

And a shaggy dog.

[radiator]

Oof, that was a bit of a dog's dinner...

The main overriding thought that kept coming to mind again and again:

"That was a bit silly".

[radiator]

Having said all that I have, and I really do hope I've not ruined anything for anyone, there are two stone cold classic moments in the film which are destined to go down in Star Wars history as the best of the franchise.

These bits gave me proper goosebumps.

I'll be interested if anyone agrees with the two bits I'm referring to.

Worryingly, nope. Genuinely no idea which bits you're referring to...

There's a lot to digest, but man.... yeah, a lot of weird shit in this movie. A lot of pretty baffling creative decisions. It's hard to put my finger on but it just didn't feel like a Star Wars movie to me. Very over the top and cartoonish, a real lack of restraint. I actually feel like it has more in common with the prequels than the original trilogy in this respect.

[Mattofthespurs]

Having said all that I have, and I really do hope I've not ruined anything for anyone, there are two stone cold classic moments in the film which are destined to go down in Star Wars history as the best of the franchise.

These bits gave me proper goosebumps.

I'll be interested if anyone agrees with the two bits I'm referring to.

Worryingly, nope. Genuinely no idea which bits you're referring to...

both bits are pretty fleeting tbh [spoiler]ah! this works now   The slow motion destruction of the imperial cruiser and the split second slo mo before Rey and Kylo kick ass against the imperial guards. The last bit is a blink and you miss it[/spoiler]

[radiator]

Both were pretty moments out of context, but did not feel like moments from a Star Wars movie to me. Too flashy, too modern. In my mind Star Wars is supposed to feel quite old school, like an old adventure serial. There's a lot of stuff in this movie that, I dunno, feels like it's from a hyperkinetic Anime series or something, a lot of camera moves you'd expect from a Matrix knock-off. Not really my cup of tea.

I'm trying to process just how much of a mess TLJ was narratively. As I indicated earlier, I think its time for me to just admit to myself that I like the classic trilogy, and thats about it.

[Mattofthespurs]

Both were pretty moments out of context

Oh, I agree but considering I gave up 2 and a half hours of my time I wanted something in return and those two bits nearly did it for me.

[Mattofthespurs]

I've now had just under 24 hours to digest this movie in deeper thought and I've come to some conclusions;

[spoiler]Basically what Rian Johnson, the writer/Director, has done is take three sections from three different Star Wars movies and basically re-write them for this movie.
First up is the attack on the star destroyer that opens The Last Jedi. For me this is a very similar scene to the one that opens Revenge of the Sith including dialogue from the lead fighter (Anakin/Poe), full of bravado.

The next steal, a minor one, is the casino scene. A replicant of the cantina scene (even down to the music) which also throws in a shot steal from Jurassic Park for good measure.

The next major steal is the Rey/Ren/Snoke scene and this is almost a complete copy of the same scene from Return of the Jedi. Conversation between Rey and Ren in the lift where she tells him that there is good inside him is pretty close to what Luke tells Vader. Luke tries to use the force to retrieve a lightsaber just as Rey does, and finally Ren attacks his master and mentor as Vader does to the Emperor, killing him in the process.

The final big steal is the most obvious and that is the final battle which echoes the opening scenes of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't think I need to go into too much detail in this regard as it's all blindingly obvious.

Suffice to say that none of the scenes in The Last Jedi are better than the original scenes in my opinion.[/spoiler]

[Theblazeuk]

I enjoyed it, but can't fault alot of the issues here. One of my issues with both of the new ones (and to a lesser extent i think in Rogue One too?) is the way hyperspace is basically teleporting exactly wherever you need to be whenever you need to be, until the narrative says not. For some reason in the originals I had more of a sense of it taking time to get from A to B.

[Spikes]

I like the classic trilogy, and thats about it.

Now that Disney has bought a good chunk of Fox, I wonder if we are a step closer to seeing a decent release for ANH?

[Mattofthespurs]

I enjoyed it, but can't fault alot of the issues here. One of my issues with both of the new ones (and to a lesser extent i think in Rogue One too?) is the way hyperspace is basically teleporting exactly wherever you need to be whenever you need to be, until the narrative says not. For some reason in the originals I had more of a sense of it taking time to get from A to B.

There was a slight sense of the in TLJ where we see [spoiler]Leia just sitting, pondering, whilst the stars rush by and then they arrive.[/spoiler]

But you're right. In ANH Luke, Han, Chewie etc...have a good chat, play some games, do some training etc...