Not wanting to do more than have a bit of fun.
This might be Halo, but its not my Halo.
Anyone else got a favourite misinterpretation of a character?
Well, there's this monstrosity that I've always hated...
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/63/94/04/63940473139273e0d256475b08eb0509--judge-dredd-judges.jpg)
And this...
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/54/c7/43/54c743a86fac1203da05872ddff9421f--judge-dredd-comic-art.jpg)
I feel there's going to be a fair few Quality Comics covers in this thread!
*copies and pastes all but the first few Fleetway Quality Comics Nemesis covers (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=reprint&page=usprofiles&choice=nemwar01) into the thread*
But specifically, WTF?
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/9116/1821805-10.jpg)
And, no, really, WFT?
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/9116/1821812-17.jpg)
Although this one (unpublished) takes the biscuit:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_l_ds-CD9ytM/TI9vQ9HQXbI/AAAAAAAABHg/8Lxm0lK0Azw/s400/Miller%2BDredd.jpg)
Background, for those who don't know about this Frank Miller 'genius'. (http://viciousimagery.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/that-frank-miller-judge-dredd-cover.html)
What's wrong with that second Nemesis cover (besides being a bit spoilerific)?
(https://i.imgur.com/rb9JCcc.jpg)
Simon Bisley is one of the most successful and talented artists of all time, his combination of manic energy and technical sophistication earning him a mainstream audience beyond the world of comics fandom.
Can't draw Dredd to save himself:
(https://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F7%2F5%2F1%2F8751112%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Quote from: Frank on 11 October, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Can't draw Dredd to save himself:
Totally dont agree.
(http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/boss-cage-2.jpg)
...And we've now established the functional time limit on shame as ~48 hours.
why the hell does johnny look like hes about to shoot a optic blast out
I quite like the Strontium Dog and the second Nemesis one.
Yep, that Nemesis No. 17 one is the actual business, if you can get past Tickle-Me-Thoth. Strontium Dog one has a certain heft to it too.
The Beano had a parody Dredd character, I forgot what it was called but it was a bird of some sort in the judge costume and was called "Judge Egg" or something like that. This was back in the 90s.
Great art here but this isn't any version of Purity I'd recognise.
Perhaps its Purity's evil Mimesis-type twin - Filth
The mid-'90s, eh. Comics weren't for kids adults any more!
Quote from: james newell on 11 October, 2017, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: Frank on 11 October, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Can't draw Dredd to save himself:
Totally dont agree.
Sorry Frank, cant agree either (despite
Exhibit A above).
Regarding the Fleetway / Quality reprints- those with newly commissioned covers are a real mixed bag, featuring some of the ugliest 2000AD related artwork (and colouring) ever printed- even as a little kid I couldn't get over how bad some of them were.
There are some gems though- Bad Company by Bart Sears, Nemesis by Sam Keith and (many) others by Steve Fastner & Rich Larson.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/54/c7/43/54c743a86fac1203da05872ddff9421f--judge-dredd-comic-art.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8kOaK23HiWY/VUlAkNOB1cI/AAAAAAAAUrI/h44H4VJlFO4/s1600/starlord_1.jpg)
Hmm.
Quote from: Link Prime on 12 October, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: james newell on 11 October, 2017, 10:12:40 PM
Totally dont agree.
Sorry Frank, cant agree either (despite Exhibit A above).
The version Bisley arrived at for
Judgement On Gotham* worked much better. The book looks
incredible, but my least favourite parts of it are Dredd**, the bike and the gun.
Trying to analyse it, I'd say Bisley was trying to make Dredd look (to his mind***)
cool. Dredd's not cool; he's a stiff, like Darth Vader or Kirsty Wark.
* and which his legions of imitators reproduced for the next decade. I might be guilty of judging Bisley's take on Dredd by the ubiquity it gained at the hands of others.
** and Anderson. Can we agree Bisley's Anderson is awful? A perm, in 1990?
*** Droids, GWAR boots, extra buckles and fastenings. I really like Bisley as an artist though, and he invented that close up on one visor flash/curled lip that every Dredd artist still uses today. That shot of Dredd taking aim while giving his balls an airing is iconic too, as its many homages over the decades demonstrate
I like Simon Bisley and love Judgement on Gotham
I think there's a conundrum with his art on Dredd. Simon's very much in the style of Frazetta where anatomy is everything with every muscle rendered. Dredd's uniform largely obscures his anatomy to the point where I think some artists might even draw the armour/pads/helmet first and the limbs after.
I love Simon's Judge Anderson. Didn't really match what had gone before but wonderfully ditzy.
With regards to that Purity cover- yes, but Mick Austin can do no wrong. Seriously, he's magnificent. What's he up to now?
SBT
Now a fine artist. And this work looks incredible. Love him too.
Aw, if we have Simon Davies- even with all his hi'fallutin portraiture, surely we can get Mick back?
SBT
Quote from: Link Prime on 12 October, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
Steve Fastner & Rich Larson.
Was having a browse through Barney there on my coffee break.
This obscure ABC Warriors piece is great.
When Star Lord first appeared I was under the impression that Strontium Dog was a sword and sorcery series because of the front cover of issue 1.
I can imagine in early days how some colouring could be off.
Not a big deal, but worth a mention:
(http://www.comicsuk.co.uk/images/Annuals/2000AD/2000ADAnnual_1980.jpeg)
This wins the 'I dont remember this ever happening' award
QuoteI like Simon Bisley and love Judgement on Gotham
So do I!I don't think any of us will forget the excitement we felt when, in 1987*, a fantastic young artist called Simon was charged with reviving the
ABC Warriors, breathing new life into the characters with a style that was as fresh as it was distinctive.
Simon's rendition of Joe Pineapples was especially memorable:
(https://2000ad.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/535-04.jpg)
* prog 535, 15th August, 1987
Quote from: Frank on 12 October, 2017, 06:42:50 PMSimon's rendition of Joe Pineapples was especially memorable:
this is Simon Harrison's Joe Pineapples not Simon Bisley's, it would have been interesting to see Harrison's talk as well.
The Four Simons of the Apocalypse! (Bisley, Harrison, Coleby and Jacob!)
Admittedly, I liked Bisley's art at the time and thinkk Coleby is pretty incredible nowadays - but at the time, it did feel like Simon was some kind of secret password into the prog!
Also that ABC cover is great - maybe pass that Pineapples strip over, Bisley! (Though Joe's teeth are a bit odd!) - did he do any more?
Quote from: james newell on 12 October, 2017, 09:40:26 PM
this is Simon Harrison's Joe Pineapples, not Simon Bisley's
That's why it's a funny joke, buddy.
And yes, Simon Harrison would have been a great choice for
The Black Hole. I assume this was an unsuccessful audition for the gig, since it ran around the same time SMS and Bisley would have started work on the strip proper.
I
love Bisley's Biker Metal parts of the story, but Harrison's style would have made for less jarring transitions with SMS's parts of the strip. Maybe if that had happened, SMS's often great work would be better regarded today.
Quote from: Frank on 12 October, 2017, 10:34:57 PMThat's why it's a funny joke, buddy.
Sorry, so totally missed that one.
Quote from: matty_ae on 12 October, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
Now a fine artist. And this work looks incredible. Love him too.
& still swiping from
Razzle by the look of it too.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DfZSx8z7sEE/T-g8Y7B1l_I/AAAAAAAACRM/UZi4FkZSQMA/s1600/19.In+the+studio+2011.jpg)
Quote from: Frank on 12 October, 2017, 10:42:39 AM
The version Bisley arrived at for Judgement On Gotham* worked much better. The book looks incredible, but my least favourite parts of it are Dredd**, the bike and the gun.
Trying to analyse it, I'd say Bisley was trying to make Dredd look (to his mind***) cool. Dredd's not cool; he's a stiff, like Darth Vader or Kirsty Wark.
I seem to remember an interview with Bisley, long before he ever drew a Dredd, where he opined about being unsure how to draw him. He was swithering between the musclebound imposing figure he eventually went with, and a much thinner, lither Dredd, who was imposing because of the uniform. I think he got that idea from an early Star Scan (McMahon, I think), where Dredd was drawn with absolutely massive pads and boots.
Quote from: james newell on 12 October, 2017, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: Frank on 12 October, 2017, 10:34:57 PMThat's why it's a funny joke, buddy
Sorry, so totally missed that one.
Salright; it wasn't a
very funny joke.
Tyranny Rex is one of the few post-prog 500 characters who makes it onto (or is recognisable in) those montage covers Tharg commissions for special occasions.
Partly because, with her shock of pure white hair, tail, and green, scaly skin*, she's
instantly recognisable:
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/britishcomics/images/8/89/Tyranny_Rex_by_Glenn_Fabry.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140719174024)
* To be fair to Fabry, the green skin was a Paul Marshall innovation. At the point Fabry produced this excellent image, the character's creator, the late Steve Dillon, had coloured her a sort of olive/beige.
Quote from: Frank on 13 October, 2017, 10:29:04 AM
To be fair to Fabry, the green skin was a Paul Marshall innovation.
Or maybe Gina Hart.
Fastner & Larsen went full Caucasian with ol' Tyranny.
wtf is Ms Rex wearing in that cover? Even by comic book standards that's ridiculous!
The tattered remains of a top because boobies. (God forbid at that time any women in comics not look like something that would have been in Loaded.)
I love the really large 'X' on the cover, a teasing hint of the possibility of x-rated material within.
Most teenage boys wouldn't be so easily fooled of course. < adjusts shirt collar >
I am now imagining "The Final Solution" drawn by Bisley... worse, I have spent today doodling the tresultant Hair Metal Alpha (and Red) we might have seen... the shame...
Quote from: Woolly on 11 October, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
And this...
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/54/c7/43/54c743a86fac1203da05872ddff9421f--judge-dredd-comic-art.jpg)
I feel there's going to be a fair few Quality Comics covers in this thread!
Looks quite a lot like the first version of Johnny many will have seen - on the front cover of Starlord Issue 1...
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 11 October, 2017, 07:36:19 PM
What's wrong with that second Nemesis cover (besides being a bit spoilerific)?
I was thinking it was pretty faithful to O'Neill's version (though depicting a Hicklenton scene).
Quote from: Leigh S on 12 October, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
Admittedly, I liked Bisley's art at the time and thinkk Coleby is pretty incredible nowadays - but at the time, it did feel like Simon was some kind of secret password into the prog!
We don't hear much about Steve Bisley these days though ;-)
QuoteWhat's wrong with that second Nemesis cover (besides being a bit spoilerific)?
It's like a poor-man's take on the styles being used in the actual strip. In the flesh, I always thought this run of covers was mostly piss poor (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/nemesis-the-warlock/4050-40266/), bar perhaps the first four by Sam Keith. The later ones look like knock-offs drawn by a teenager – and, bizarrely, increasingly illustrated things that had happened months before. Also, what the hell was the artist thinking here, bar "I like drawing tits"?
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/9116/1821814-18.jpg)
Awful lingerie aside, surely that's the Mimesis? If it is, it's pretty close to actual scenes in Purity's Story, and even a 2000ad cover, if I'm remembering right.
Re: The Frank Miller Dredd image... I always hoped I might get to draw a Dredd piece in which I could have a row of shops in the background complete with one with a hanging sign in the shape of a giant boot.
The sign would read: 'Frank Miller's Cobblers'.
If anyone has that opportunity, please feel free!
QuoteAwful lingerie aside, surely that's the Mimesis?
Well, yes. I'm not referring to the (frankly not that impressive) take on the mimesis. I'm talking about the hostage ins weird porno pose, the awful lifework, the terrible colours, and the fact the inside of that issue didn't even feature that strip.
And what's with replacing the great Nem logo with that?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2017, 03:26:15 PM
QuoteAwful lingerie aside, surely that's the Mimesis?
Well, yes. I'm not referring to the (frankly not that impressive) take on the mimesis. I'm talking about the hostage ins weird porno pose, the awful lifework, the terrible colours, and the fact the inside of that issue didn't even feature that strip.
Not to mention the sticky-looking white liquid oozing on to said lingerie-clad model...
Had chance to ink this monstrosity during my daughter's guitar lesson - sadly done with no Bisley reference, but I wonder if there is a Bisley Stront try out that metals up Alpha more successfully than this!
(https://imgur.com/s6J4Kdv)
https://imgur.com/s6J4Kdv
(https://i.imgur.com/s6J4Kdv.jpg)
Quote from: Leigh S on 15 October, 2017, 01:27:31 PM
Had chance to ink this monstrosity during my daughter's guitar lesson - sadly done with no Bisley reference, but I wonder if there is a Bisley Stront try out that metals up Alpha more successfully than this!
Yes, except that his name was Feral and he was drawn by Simon Harrison.
There's a good point - Final solution seems more suited to Bisley than it was to Harrison
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 15 October, 2017, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 15 October, 2017, 01:27:31 PM
Had chance to ink this monstrosity during my daughter's guitar lesson - sadly done with no Bisley reference, but I wonder if there is a Bisley Stront try out that metals up Alpha more successfully than this!
Yes, except that his name was Feral and he was drawn by Simon Harrison.
Quote from: sheridan on 14 October, 2017, 07:23:12 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2017, 03:26:15 PM
QuoteAwful lingerie aside, surely that's the Mimesis?
Well, yes. I'm not referring to the (frankly not that impressive) take on the mimesis. I'm talking about the hostage ins weird porno pose, the awful lifework, the terrible colours, and the fact the inside of that issue didn't even feature that strip.
Not to mention the sticky-looking white liquid oozing on to said lingerie-clad model...
You've been spying through my webcam again.