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Title: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: IronGraham on 31 August, 2019, 02:59:54 PM
Same as last week with a Drokking good cover from the Jake Lynch Bot
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: IronGraham on 31 August, 2019, 03:10:25 PM
Wish that SinDex wasn't coloured because Steve Yeowell's black and whites are so beautiful.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 31 August, 2019, 04:00:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ppxMlTM.jpg)

Jake Lynch
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Frank on 31 August, 2019, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: IronGraham on 31 August, 2019, 03:10:25 PM
Wish that SinDex wasn't coloured because Steve Yeowell's black and whites are so beautiful.

I prefer Yeowell's inks alone, but he's working halftone here. Stevie Owl posts the originals of all his 2000ad work every week on social media (https://www.facebook.com/steve.yeowell.7):


(https://i.imgur.com/uMGPSBq.png)


Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: broodblik on 31 August, 2019, 04:32:26 PM
Yes, Yoewell's B&W is great but I do like they colouring of Charles. It does suits the story.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Colin YNWA on 31 August, 2019, 08:32:31 PM
Split on the Mighty Yeowell's current work. Its lovely and I really enjoy the look and feel it gives the story... is it as good as his line work... dunno.... its just different I think.

Anyway just like preferences for the Might Yeowell's art the Prog, as I've said before, can be about the fine margins. While last weeks was an absolute classic this weeks is a little, little, weaker.

Dredd is just as glorious as the opener as the knot tightens around Barbarbara Grimm.

Sinister Dexter is fine but its about as set up as set up can be.

Indigo Prime is as fantastic as ever.

3rillers Red Road is the same as last week, which in this case is a problem. Its fantastic blistering action but with no real context and only an episode to go it now runs the risk of becoming an enlongated Future Shock dress in  a fight scene. Lets see what the last episode provides us. Still a fun read mind.

Jaegir is fantastic as the knot tighten around... well a few folks actually.

And its those find margins that can take a great Prog down to a good Prog even when its a 5-4-5.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: NapalmKev on 31 August, 2019, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 31 August, 2019, 08:32:31 PM

Indigo Prime is as fantastic as ever.


Indeed! Writing and Artwork being equally outstanding; I can't get enough of this strip and I hope we see more in the future!

At the risk of invoking some sort of angry dancing - I'm not a fan of Sinister Dexter. When it first started I thought it was pretty good. One Long Walk later, I returned and it was still going. Except it had some Dimension-Hopping Ninjas', or something, followed by a reboot. No thanks!

Cheers



Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: 73north on 01 September, 2019, 04:51:34 PM
yet again , bad luck strikes - no prog again for me yesterday  :(
( and I am working on Monday till 9pm , so no Jaegir to read till Tuesday at earliest )
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Richard on 01 September, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
There should be a separate thread for no prog complaints. They're not relevant to the review threads.

(This is not a dig at 73north.)
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Fungus on 02 September, 2019, 02:01:21 AM
Quote from: Richard on 01 September, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
There should be a separate thread for no prog complaints. They're not relevant to the review threads.

(This is not a dig at 73north.)

Doesn't sound like the thrillingest of threads.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Richard on 02 September, 2019, 12:48:02 PM
That's sort of my point.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 September, 2019, 12:53:09 PM
You should give the Ultimate Collection thread a go...!

I've pretty much given up reviewing the books there, lost as they soon are in the deluge of '44/45 finally turned up, but still waiting on 42/43.'
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Proudhuff on 02 September, 2019, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: Richard on 01 September, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
There should be a separate thread for no prog complaints. They're not relevant to the review threads.

(This is not a dig at 73north.)

Disagree, Its good to know you're not alone without the prog, or if there has been a major attack by the Dictators and the whole of Cal-Hab is progless...
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: MumboJimbo on 02 September, 2019, 01:29:32 PM
Agreed. Whenever my prog's late, I always check the review post to see if I'm the only one!
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Proudhuff on 04 September, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 31 August, 2019, 08:32:31 PM

Dredd is just as glorious as the opener as the knot tightens around Barbarbara Grimm.

Sinister Dexter Cant help but feel other droids could have done that five page set up in one panel...

Indigo Prime is same as ever...

3rillers Red Road is the same as last week, which in this case is a problem. Its fantastic blistering action but with no real context and only an episode to go it now runs the risk of becoming an enlongated Future Shock dress in  a fight scene. Lets see what the last episode provides us.

Jaegir is fantastic as the knot tighten around... well a few folks actually.

Damage Report! Wow, which droids have been sold?  :o
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: broodblik on 04 September, 2019, 10:26:56 AM
Overall a good prog

Dredd – Solid story and art. It is like Barbarbara painted herself into a corner.

Sin/Dex feels a little bit direction-less. It reads currently like the strips from the 80s which is trying to establish itself.

3riller – only action so far, so we must wait for the last part to determine if the story was worth its salt. This so far is a good 3riller with great art

Jaegir – Good stuff, great art with a good solid story.



Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: iutley on 04 September, 2019, 12:32:28 PM
Regarding Sin Dex at the moment, does anyone know what the current situation is with people knowing/not knowing who they are after the inter-dimensional shenanigans?
I thought everyone had forgotten them (except Billi who was starting to remember) and they were having to start over but this story reads like they've just had a bit of time off and come back! They feel older and out of place but they are top sharks and hanging out with old pal Rocky at the Bar None.
Any Sin Dex experts out there who can fill me in?
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: TordelBack on 04 September, 2019, 02:24:01 PM
No-one knew them, but they have established themselves as primo bullet monkeys again, and restored their acquaintance with Rocky, Bar None, Billie and various lowlifes. Only Billie has even the vaguest sense that they knew each other before.

Of course there is something larger and altogether odd going on, between the Devil, magic tats, Dex's thought bubbles, urban renewal and now this firewalled AI business. All smacks of a VR prison to me, or perhaps some of the themes of Banks' Matter.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: TordelBack on 04 September, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
Elsewhere in progland, I doff my cap to Carroll and Dyer,  current Dredd is great stuff. This is a much better angle on the 'pocket universe' problem that plagues the non-Wagners, a citizen's eye view of the eternal underworld struggles of MC-1, spreading across several otherwise standalone strips. And beautiful to look at too.

Spectacular Lynch cover too, love it.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: DrJomster on 04 September, 2019, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 04 September, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
Spectacular Lynch cover too, love it.

Yep. Very lovely cover, that! Might put that down in my top 3 for cover of the year in a few months time.

Another good prog for me this week. Some stronger than others, but a very good level across the board. Some particularly lovely art in every thrill, too.

Good times!



Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 04 September, 2019, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 04 September, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
Elsewhere in progland, I doff my cap to Carroll and Dyer,  current Dredd is great stuff. This is a much better angle on the 'pocket universe' problem that plagues the non-Wagners, a citizen's eye view of the eternal underworld struggles of MC-1, spreading across several otherwise standalone strips. And beautiful to look at too.

Spectacular Lynch cover too, love it.

Aye, it's not only Mike's best Dredd to date, but Nick's too. I wasn't completely sold on Dyer's art at first, but these days I am delighted to see someone comfortably plugging the gap left by Cam Kennedy and Mike McMahon.

I like your VR prison idea; hadn't thought of that.  In fact I'm enjoying SinDex all round these days.  There's been a bit of a history of seemingly important plot threads giving way to massive anticlimaxes in SinDex: just hope this isn't going the same way.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Leigh S on 04 September, 2019, 10:09:57 PM
Yeah, a solid prog received in the Birmingham Gap

Cover is superb - Jake Lynch really living up to the promise of his style

Dredd is intriguing and a welcome focus on Citizens

Sin Dex lost me, but I don't begrudge it a slot

a slightly weaker IP I thought this week, with the ending being very Zenith/Masterman.  Art remains a sight to behold though.

Similarly, the 3riller has great art - maybe it's stretching a one part FS over three weeks, though since they went 4 pages (as a rule?), I suppose it's hard to tell anything too complex or involved - maybe we need "2ture Shocks" for balance?

Jaegir is all good stuff - While I miss the zaniness of original GFD in Jaegir, and the politics/Nort culture stuff doesnt always grab me, this hits the spot with action and multiple agendas spicing things up

Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: iutley on 05 September, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 04 September, 2019, 02:24:01 PM
No-one knew them, but they have established themselves as primo bullet monkeys again, and restored their acquaintance with Rocky, Bar None, Billie and various lowlifes. Only Billie has even the vaguest sense that they knew each other before.

Of course there is something larger and altogether odd going on, between the Devil, magic tats, Dex's thought bubbles, urban renewal and now this firewalled AI business. All smacks of a VR prison to me, or perhaps some of the themes of Banks' Matter.

Thanks TordelBack! I hadn't thought about the amount of time that's passed within the story, being the same or longer, than our time. Makes more sense now. But as you say, something still feels slightly off......
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 September, 2019, 11:42:01 AM
I really hope that thought-bubble thing is leading somewhere because it's starting to annoy me!
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: norton canes on 05 September, 2019, 11:43:14 AM
Cover: Lynchtastic

Dredd: Shaping up so well, a totally compelling tale. Although... after last week's page one narrative confusion controversy I wonder if I should mention this, but - 'EL'? Was that/they mentioned last week?

SinDex: Looking forward to seeing where the Abnett droid goes with this 'ultimate AI' concept. Will it be a one-off thing that he's just transplanted into the Downlode universe because he's got no other story to include it in? Or will it play a big part in the series' future direction..?

IP: This is becoming interminable. Please put it to bed and let Kek-W concentrate his efforts on worthier projects!

3riller: It's been weird reading two weeks of a Mad Max-style road pursuit without knowing anything about the participants. I guess next week's payoff will determine if it's been worthwhile. No pressure!

Jaegir: So good.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Proudhuff on 05 September, 2019, 01:10:37 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 04 September, 2019, 10:09:57 PM


Jaegir...  the politics/Nort culture stuff doesnt always grab me,

Where that, and the Hardware (who doesn't love a Hopper!) is what does it for me! different strokes  :D
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: sintec on 05 September, 2019, 08:45:03 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 02 September, 2019, 12:53:09 PM
You should give the Ultimate Collection thread a go...!

I've pretty much given up reviewing the books there, lost as they soon are in the deluge of '44/45 finally turned up, but still waiting on 42/43.'

The spread of different delivery dates really breaks up the conversations - everyone is getting different books at different times. Add to that all the other delivery issues and meh. It's a shame.

Back on topic:- I thought it was a good prog but I have to say as a relative newcomer I'm finding Indigo Prime somewhat impenetrable. It looks amazing and it's rammed full of batshit crazy ideas but I've no idea what's going on. Fingers crossed Hachette will sort me a nice hardback volume of the early episodes in an extension (if not I might have to track down some trades as its definitely intriguing)

Jaegir and Dredd are both absolutely cracking. Sin Dex and the 3thriller just weren't quite there for me. Reading this thread there's clearly a big chunk of Sin Dex history I'm missing though, maybe that's the issue.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 September, 2019, 02:18:41 PM
Late to the party but enjoyed this prog immensely.

These episodes of JAEGIR, 3HRILLER and INDIGO PRIME are all, in essence, just big action set pieces. The final fight if you like so it's interesting to see the approaches they take.

JAEGIR  has lots of different layers and people driving the (what might be considered straightforward) action and the interplay between them also drives exposition and shows character. It's smart stuff, makes the reading more complex but keeps the action clear and brilliantly paced.

INDIGO PRIME tries similarly but falters slightly to my mind because the whacky and weird nature of the story means that very panel, every text box, needs a little bit of extra parsing in my head and slows me down

The 3HRILLER is the most straightforward piece uncomplicated , unlayered action which is dynamically rendered.  It suffers by comparison especially as I'm still not entirely sure who these masked people are and whether we should be rooting for them. But if par three has some gobsmacking reveal, all will be forgiven.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 September, 2019, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 05 September, 2019, 11:42:01 AM
I really hope that thought-bubble thing is leading somewhere because it's starting to annoy me!

sorted this week  :-X
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 September, 2019, 04:48:20 PM
Obscure musical references in the works of Kek-W, an occasional series.

Older readers will get the significance of describing Thatcher as Baby Milk Snatcher. They might not realise it was also the name of an A.R. Kane hit (https://youtu.be/Q9MH-o34TOg).

The other strips are all quite enjoyable. The 3Riller making a virtue out of it's lack of depth in a way that probably wouldn't extend into a longer series but has me intrigued fur the closer.
Title: Re: Prog 2147 - The Enforcer
Post by: TordelBack on 09 September, 2019, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: I, Cosh on 09 September, 2019, 04:48:20 PM
The 3Riller making a virtue out of it's lack of depth in a way that probably wouldn't extend into a longer series but has me intrigued fur the closer.

That's a really good way of expressing my own feelings on the 3riller. It's rather bravely been just an extended action scene thus far, but a compelling one that I want to see play out...