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2000 AD => General => Topic started by: M.I.K. on 25 August, 2008, 10:27:11 PM

Title: Manga Dredd
Post by: M.I.K. on 25 August, 2008, 10:27:11 PM
Around the time the Dredd film was released, I remember reading something about a manga version of Judge Dredd being published in Japan. Not only was it different from 2000ad's version, but it didn't seem to have much to do with the film either. I don't remember where I read about this, (could have been in the prog itself), but I'm pretty sure there was also a picture of a helmeted Dredd.

I'm wondering if anyone here has seen the manga in question or has any other info on it. Failing that, does anyone remember reading about it and know where to find the picture of the Japanese mangafied Dredd?
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: steeyre on 26 August, 2008, 12:40:48 AM
I vaguely remember reading something about it, in "Manga Mania" maybe?
If my memory serves it wasn't actually Judge Dredd, he was a teacher or something.
Might have just been that the character reminded them of Dreddy as he had a big chin and was a ball-buster.
The title "Ultimate Teacher" rings a bell, but my memory is often wrong :?
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: M.I.K. on 26 August, 2008, 01:25:03 AM
I remember the bit about him being a teacher too, but I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a version of Dredd himself, training cadets or something of the sort. I think the helmet in the picture was similar to the movie version but had stars along the top of the respirator/badge part. I used to read Manga Mania so it is possible that I read about it there.

I did a quick google for "Ultimate Teacher manga" and it's quite apparent that's not it.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 30 August, 2008, 08:58:22 PM
Manga Dredd, might be quite interesting.

Have you seen Star Wars Manga compared to the original comic adaptation?
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: M.I.K. on 30 August, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
Quote from: "el-lopo"Have you seen Star Wars Manga compared to the original comic adaptation?

Yep. I think someone someone posted a link to that on here a while back. Interesting to see the differences.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: The Adventurer on 02 September, 2008, 08:26:04 AM
I don't know about a Dredd Manga, but I'm of the stanch opinion that the best way to get Dredd animated is to license it out to Japan to become an anime series. Japan's produced the best in sci-fi animation in the... well... ever after all. It would be like Ghost in the Shell meets Mad Max.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 04 September, 2008, 11:39:23 PM
Quote from: "The Adventurer"I don't know about a Dredd Manga, but I'm of the stanch opinion that the best way to get Dredd animated is to license it out to Japan to become an anime series. Japan's produced the best in sci-fi animation in the... well... ever after all. It would be like Ghost in the Shell meets Mad Max.

Has anyone seen 'Storm Hawks' I think that style would work well for Dredd.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: The Adventurer on 05 September, 2008, 03:18:23 AM
Quote from: "el-lopo"
Quote from: "The Adventurer"I don't know about a Dredd Manga, but I'm of the stanch opinion that the best way to get Dredd animated is to license it out to Japan to become an anime series. Japan's produced the best in sci-fi animation in the... well... ever after all. It would be like Ghost in the Shell meets Mad Max.

Has anyone seen 'Storm Hawks' I think that style would work well for Dredd.

Good lord Jesus NO. Storm Hawks, and the whole faux Anime "style"* is GARBAGE.


*that ultra generic big eye "cutesy" look. See: Teen Titans, Code Lyoko**. Basicly, any American show trying to tap the Anime Market and just going super generic with it.


** Though, to be fair, Code Lyoko is French
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Large48 on 05 September, 2008, 11:25:02 AM
Dredd was reprinted (maybe not legally) into a Chinese / Japanese magazine some years back.

It was (again I think!) Top Dog and it was in issues 1039 through to 1043 (at least) and read right to left. I have issues 1039, 1041 and 1043.

Does anyone else have any details of this?

Cheers
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Steven Sterlacchini on 05 September, 2008, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: "The Adventurer"
Quote from: "el-lopo"
Quote from: "The Adventurer"I don't know about a Dredd Manga, but I'm of the stanch opinion that the best way to get Dredd animated is to license it out to Japan to become an anime series. Japan's produced the best in sci-fi animation in the... well... ever after all. It would be like Ghost in the Shell meets Mad Max.

Has anyone seen 'Storm Hawks' I think that style would work well for Dredd.

Good lord Jesus NO. Storm Hawks, and the whole faux Anime "style"* is GARBAGE.


*that ultra generic big eye "cutesy" look. See: Teen Titans, Code Lyoko**. Basicly, any American show trying to tap the Anime Market and just going super generic with it.


** Though, to be fair, Code Lyoko is French

Not so much the 'big eyes', which I agree about, but I like method of animation, a sort of CGI and animation blend. Seems to allow for a lot of action and drama, no need to repeat sequences to save time etc.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Mardroid on 05 September, 2008, 05:21:22 PM
Not all manga does the big eyes thing.

That being said, I'm not keen on the idea for a Dredd animation. The whole eastern style certainly looks sumptious, but I think western style animation for a western character. Keep it gritty.

I did like Ghost in the Shell though. The sequel felt pretentious with all the blather, although the basic storyline for that was ok too. I haven't seen any of the 'Stand alone Complex' series though.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: The Adventurer on 05 September, 2008, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: "Chris Mardle"I did like Ghost in the Shell though. The sequel felt pretentious with all the blather, although the basic storyline for that was ok too. I haven't seen any of the 'Stand alone Complex' series though.
SAC is like the first GitS, except it cuts out nearly all the Psychological mumbo-jumbo. Its pretty rad.

Quote from: "el-lopo"Not so much the 'big eyes', which I agree about, but I like method of animation, a sort of CGI and animation blend. Seems to allow for a lot of action and drama, no need to repeat sequences to save time etc.

Its my experience that TV grade CG is generally pretty poor and should be avoided at all cost. Your Storm Hawks example is a good example, that CG is atrocious.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 04 October, 2008, 01:37:15 PM
I think a 'Manga' Dredd could be a seller appealing to all ages rather than the cynical youth who buy 2000 A.D !

I suspect most parents would probably object too 2000 A.D 's violent content and perhaps a milder form might be appropriate and though it would undoubtly be a diluted Dredd ( heresy! ) it might be the way to go.

 I always felt anime films like 'AKIRA' and 'Ghost in the Shell' seemed to depict a Megalopolis like M.C 1 though that might be influenced by 'Bladerunner'.

The world increasingly has an Asian influence as the West's power slowly declines so Manga Dredd would surely do a roaring trade in China and other rising tigers. Brutal authoritarianism is bound to be respected by a one party 'democracy!'
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: M.I.K. on 09 March, 2012, 02:19:58 AM
Necropostifying 'cos I just found this in the March '96 issue of Anime FX magazine...

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/MalcolmKirk/MangaDredd.jpg)
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: M.I.K. on 09 March, 2012, 02:21:53 AM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 09 March, 2012, 02:19:58 AM
Necropostifying 'cos I just found this in the March '96 issue of Anime FX magazine...

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/MalcolmKirk/MangaDredd.jpg)

Pretty certain I read a bit about it somewhere else too.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Gonk on 09 March, 2012, 08:27:14 AM
I'd ask him to take the helmet off, it looks well cheesy, late 1950's b movie style Dredd. No thank you. :-\
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: The Adventurer on 09 March, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: fonky on 09 March, 2012, 08:27:14 AM
I'd ask him to take the helmet off, it looks well cheesy, late 1950's b movie style Dredd. No thank you. :-\

Actually it looks bang on what a Dredd home grown in Japan may have looked like. I like it. I'd like to see more.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 March, 2012, 09:42:44 AM
Just seen this thread and was about to excitedly post that I remembered reading the same thing in Anime FX years ago but I see M.I.K's found it now.

I'd love to see the full strip, is there any indication of which issue of Jump it was in?
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Van Dom on 09 March, 2012, 02:56:53 PM
Thats cool! I've got a mission now, something to search for when I hit Japan in 2 weeks!
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: maryanddavid on 08 June, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Just bumping this up to see if anyone found any more information on this.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 09 June, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 05 September, 2008, 03:18:23 AM
Quote from: el-lopo
Quote from: The AdventurerI don't know about a Dredd Manga, but I'm of the stanch opinion that the best way to get Dredd animated is to license it out to Japan to become an anime series. Japan's produced the best in sci-fi animation in the... well... ever after all. It would be like Ghost in the Shell meets Mad Max.

Has anyone seen 'Storm Hawks' I think that style would work well for Dredd.

Good lord Jesus NO. Storm Hawks, and the whole faux Anime "style"* is GARBAGE.


*that ultra generic big eye "cutesy" look. See: Teen Titans, Code Lyoko**. Basicly, any American show trying to tap the Anime Market and just going super generic with it.


** Though, to be fair, Code Lyoko is French
"COUGH" AVATARTHELASTAIRBENDER "COUGH"
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: amines2058 on 09 June, 2014, 08:55:34 AM
If nothing else the resurrection of this thread may provide some inspiration to those participating in this months art comp - 2000ad reframed!
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: JudgeGerry on 26 June, 2014, 11:48:46 AM
Dredd in Manga  was be cool and bring in a wider audience. Akira is still one of my all time favourites   :-)
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: M.I.K. on 27 June, 2014, 04:11:30 AM
Quote from: maryanddavid on 08 June, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Just bumping this up to see if anyone found any more information on this.

Jonathan Clements is on Facebook and also has a blog, (I know this 'cos John Freeman reposted an article of his a week or two ago), so someone could always ask him if he remembers anything about it.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: The Adventurer on 27 June, 2014, 06:37:59 AM
Quote"COUGH" AVATARTHELASTAIRBENDER "COUGH"

6 years ago me was a bit of a pompous git. Also I wasn't that aware of Avatar yet (and really didn't become a fan until Korra)

Though I still don't want to see Manga Dredd in that style. Just would not jive.

Its gotta be on the Seinen side of the spectrum. Like if Golgo 13 and Berserk had a baby.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 14 September, 2016, 10:50:36 AM
Thread necromancy but...me and Brandon Graham (editor for The Islend) where discussing western imported franchises adapted into manga, and when I brought up the Dredd Manga one-shot he recalled speaking to someone who had read it back in 2000. So, tentatively speaking, it's very much still out there waiting to be found.

One day.
Title: Re: Manga Dredd
Post by: Tulio_Vilela on 14 September, 2016, 03:04:17 PM
I think that the best way to make an animated version of Dredd would be something like "Heavy Metal" movie or "Fire and Ace" Ralph Bakshi's movie, what means adult animated movie with rock soundtrack.
Maybe, invite an 2000 AD artist to design the character for an animated version. I think Ian Gibson would be a good choice, cause his style would be adequate to animation.