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Title: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 17 June, 2017, 01:10:35 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/2036_zps999te3hi.jpg)

Great Chris Weston cover of the strong and stable SJS Judge

Dredd wraps up The Fields this prog which feels quick but promises stuff to come.

Brink continues the great chase sequence and sets up a classic cliffhanger.

Defoe looks superb although it reads a bit like a companion piece to Uncle Pat's new book.

Grey Area has a lot of speech bubbles this week as they set stuff up. Looks fab though.

And Hunted does a really nice volte-face

Top stuff IMHO
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: CalHab on 17 June, 2017, 06:19:48 PM
Dredd was excellent, as expected from Williams & Weston. Brink remains a highlight of the rest of the prog. Very enjoyable reading on a sunny afternoon in the garden.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 June, 2017, 08:22:16 PM
Brink kinda sums up the Prog for me at the moment. Its really good, its just not quite as special as its been up to this point. As Brink has got to the action conclusion its lost a little of its magic, its just a great thrill ride, no bad thing, but its lost a little of the compelling magic that made it so special at the start.

Just like the Prog.

Dredd was superb, okay it felt a little cheap to throw us the concept, the idea and then slam the door in our faces, but once you get over that bit of cheek I was left hankering for more but happy with a compelling set up beautifully realised. Can't wait for this is continue. Did anyone else get a brainbloom vide of that last page!

In contrast Defoe is just wallowing in ... something stinky, I'm barely reading it anymore.

Grey Area was just magnificent, doing what Abnett does best and relishing glorious interplay between characters and dragging the plot and story behind almost unnoticed - fantastic.

Hunted started to gell for me this issue... started to, not there yet but its getting there.

So yeah good, not special Tharg, but you've gottun me used to special...
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Fungus on 17 June, 2017, 08:36:26 PM
Very fine cover, and nice pin badge  :-X
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Richard on 17 June, 2017, 08:43:57 PM
QuoteDid anyone else get a brainbloom vide of that last page!

Yes, and the story title is The Fields so I doubt it's a coincidence.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 June, 2017, 12:45:25 PM
Pin is a great character. - maybe she's just pissed off that her badge is silver?

Apart from some turgid exposition in Defoe, this was another fantastic prog
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: norton canes on 19 June, 2017, 02:43:40 PM
Gah! I must remember not to look at the 'News' section on a Monday or Tuesday. I hate having my cover spoilered!
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Proudhuff on 20 June, 2017, 04:48:05 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 19 June, 2017, 12:45:25 PM
Pin is a great character. - maybe she's just pissed off that her badge is silver?

Apart from some turgid exposition in Defoe, this was another fantastic prog

Crikey! Didn't realise Pin was female, Great story and planting of ideas  ;)

But those big badges are just plain silly... :-X

Rest of the Prog excellent.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: sheridan on 21 June, 2017, 07:57:19 PM
Loved the establishing shot of the Mega-City, reminds me of Giger's NY series:

(https://galeri3.uludagsozluk.com/168/new-york-city_253263.jpg)
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Verence on 21 June, 2017, 10:51:14 PM
Has Judge Pin appeared in any other Dredd stories or is she a completely new character??
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Richard on 21 June, 2017, 11:53:30 PM
She's new, but something tells me we'll see her again.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 22 June, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
I hadn't realised Pin was female either. Really liking her character though, and I hope we shall see a lot more of her going forward.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: GermanAndy on 22 June, 2017, 10:30:16 AM
Cover: Simply marvelous.

Dredd: Seems to be some time that a Dredd story had that kind of bite. After Wagner Williams is currently the Dredd writer I like most  by a large margin. Still, the ending was a bit mystifying. Did Pin - is this really a woman? :P - really killed over 100 Judges? Then he/she beat PJ Maybe's score  :o The Weston art is wonderful. I am always baffled by the difference between Weston in color and in black and white.

Brink: Nicely done. Brink grows on me. At first I thought this a bit too The Expanse to like it, but now I am looking forward to it.

Defoe: Different artists, different visions. Always one of the strength of the Prog. But I just can't get into McNeil's version of Defoe. It has become a very different series.  Mill's is never subtle, but this seems to be a bit broad even for him  ;) Still, I wonder who the editors were in real life.  :D

Grey Area: This on the other hand is an Abnett series I never could get into. Still can't.

Hunted:Furies: I am not convinced that the Rogue Trooper universe can support so many new aditions, especially the Traitor General. As the character is kind of untouchable, these tales about him lack some impact. It took some time to get warm with Jaegir, but its grimness  did work for me at the end. Maybe it is the art, but this seems to be much lighter.

Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Magnetica on 22 June, 2017, 12:22:50 PM
Cover: just great.

Dredd: just great.

Defoe: just great.

Brink: just great.

Grey Area:just great.

Quote from: GermanAndy on 22 June, 2017, 10:30:16 AM
Hunted:Furies: I am not convinced that the Rogue Trooper universe can support so many new aditions

Yes that's a good point. I would rather have more Jaegir than this. But they seem to be aimed at different demographics.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: norton canes on 23 June, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
Cover: PIN-tastic

Dredd: Fli-PIN' 'eck, that was PIN-credibly good. Seeing as PIN is likely to enter the PIN-theon of classic 2000 AD characters, I might start a dedicated PIN thread over in General. (But don't PIN your hopes on it)

Brink: Yes, I broadly agree with those who've said that a little of the magic has gone out of this as the mysteries have been resolved. But still, it's superior stuff.

Defoe: It's not light satire, is it. Not subtle.

Grey Area: After last week's 'refresher' episode I'm adapting to the knockabout shtick of this instalment. Abnett writes so well, it's impossible not to enjoy it, even if some of the characters types are a bit cliched (which I suppose is kind of the point).

Hunted: Well, it's a great opening double page, that's for sure. The rest is a bit 'meh'.

For the first time I'm going to say that the best thing about the prog isn't one of the strips, or anything from the nerve centre, but... the ad for the latest Megazine. I'm reading the Lawless TPB right now and absolutely loving it, so it's just a pleasure to see Phil Winslade's magnificent cover.
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: sheridan on 23 June, 2017, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: norton canes on 23 June, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
  Grey Area: After last week's 'refresher' episode I'm adapting to the knockabout shtick of this instalment. Abnett writes so well, it's impossible not to enjoy it, even if some of the characters types are a bit cliched (which I suppose is kind of the point).
Depressingly, some of those cliched character types are alive and well - encountered one this morning, who epitomised the definition of 'white male privilege' (barging around, completely ignoring the older, filipino woman he almost knocked over).
Title: Re: Prog 2036 - Betray the badge and pay the price
Post by: Jacqusie on 25 June, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: Eamonn Clarke on 17 June, 2017, 01:10:35 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/2036_zps999te3hi.jpg)



Brilliant cover by Chris Weston, he certainly makes his mark when Tharg allows him back into the prog. For my money he's not used nearly enough in 2000AD and it would be great to see him on a longer run on Dredd with Rob Williams.

Like Ian Edginton, I seem to relate more to these writers style and I think it's probably I'm getting on a bit. Dan Abnett's marathon discourses and daft sound bytes don't do anything for me.

I'm even warming to the plodding pace of Defoe (still beautiful art by McNeil) but I'm a bit confused by Titus's inability to incapaciate a few Reeks when he's taken out hundreds of the buggers.

Still, it's better than Grey area and Brink (blah blahdy blah blah)

Good job that there is muchos variety to keep us all Zargjizz...