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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13935 on: 08 January, 2018, 10:06:25 am »
If you don't appear in any media organs, you don't appear. Damned either way when you stick your head up it seems.

If only the Conservatives were James O'Brien, I could actually vote for them.

My idiot friends liked Nigel Farage, and Boris Johnson. The ones who voted Leave and said we are "GREAT Britain we've been through 2 world wars etc we'll be fine" and give up when you ask *why* they want to return things to a period before they were born. The ones who, when challenged on anything, play a victim card about "Oh I'm the bad guy, I've got a mortgage and a job and a family" and mentally draw some sort of connecting line between themselves and these toffs who might pose for a pint with them but would rather die than send their kids to the same schools.

In short it's those who take what they say at face value.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13936 on: 08 January, 2018, 01:56:28 pm »
If you don't appear in any media organs, you don't appear.

This would be true as recently as 2 years ago, but the media landscape has changed.  Social media had negligible impact on the 2015 General Election, but it changed the UK's political landscape in 2017.  Any wonder the Tories are suddenly in a panic to stop "fake news" after being its beneficiary for so long.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13937 on: 08 January, 2018, 02:02:33 pm »
O'Brien is a small-c conservative

You may well be right in saying that I'm only getting selected snippets of his show, but I'm struggling to see him as a conservative - he's pro-union, pro-nationalisation (at least for the transport industry) and pro-immigration; as well as a self-professed 'snowflake'.  I know he's not fully on board with Corbyn, but if he's not a socialist, he's at least a liberal, unless everything I've missed him say is the opposite of what I've heard.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13938 on: 08 January, 2018, 04:30:30 pm »
It's hard to see anyone who is reasonably civil and inquisitive as a conservative because conservatism as a body has been hijacked by neoliberals and the certifiably batshit insane.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13939 on: 12 January, 2018, 06:30:36 pm »
So Trump is a racist. Gosh. Who could possibly have guessed?
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13940 on: 12 January, 2018, 08:04:02 pm »
So Trump is a racist. Gosh. Who could possibly have guessed?
I would book a holiday in Haiti right away,just to prove him wrong,if I were you.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13941 on: 12 January, 2018, 09:18:33 pm »
So Trump is a racist. Gosh. Who could possibly have guessed?
I would book a holiday in Haiti right away,just to prove him wrong,if I were you.

No, you're quite right Smith.  The President of the US should talk like some obnoxious arsehole down the pub.  It's Political Correctness Gone Mad that the most powerful man in the world should show respect for some of the poorest, or indeed the slightly nuanced view that not all of Africa is mudhuts and/or shanty towns.

Oddly however it's not his view of the places themselves that is the genuinely racist part of his comment: it's his view that the people that might potentially come from all these overwhelmingly-black countries  would automatically be inferior to overwhlemingly-white Norwegians.  Which as you know is exactly what he, and the gobshite down the pub, thinks.


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« Reply #13942 on: 12 January, 2018, 09:57:19 pm »
Perversely, Trump’s presidency may be a good thing - I’ve protested for decades about the USA pulling the strings behind the scenes- Trump seems determined to piss off allies and enemies alike, so the long term effect is that the USA will be less of a bully power player in the future

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13943 on: 12 January, 2018, 11:04:18 pm »
So Trump is a racist. Gosh. Who could possibly have guessed?
I would book a holiday in Haiti right away,just to prove him wrong,if I were you.

Please tell me I've picked you up wrong here, and that you're not honestly suggesting that Trump, in explicitly stating that dark-skinned people from poorer nations are worth less than white people from richer ones, has a point.
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« Reply #13944 on: 12 January, 2018, 11:20:37 pm »
So Trump is a racist. Gosh. Who could possibly have guessed?
I would book a holiday in Haiti right away,just to prove him wrong,if I were you.

Please tell me I've picked you up wrong here, and that you're not honestly suggesting that Trump, in explicitly stating that dark-skinned people from poorer nations are worth less than white people from richer ones, has a point.

That what I thought too.

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« Reply #13945 on: 13 January, 2018, 05:06:34 am »
Well,grandstand all you want,but would YOU live in Haiti?Yeah,didnt think so.
Its not about race,its about crime and corruption.Some places are shitholes.I could name a few shitholes in this country.Most of them 90% white.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13946 on: 13 January, 2018, 06:40:31 am »
It's also worth remembering that $10bn in international aid donations following the Haitian earthquake allegedly disappeared under the stewardship of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Apparently, even though they loved Haiti enough to spend part of their honeymoon there, the Clintons prioritised sinking aid money into garment factories and a business centre over addressing the problems of ordinary Haitians made destitute and suffering cholera outbreaks following the earthquake.


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« Reply #13947 on: 13 January, 2018, 08:13:12 am »
While I'd love the chance of a holiday in Haiti, I don't want to live there any more than I'd like to live in that magical kingdom of whiteness Norway, mainly because my home and interests are here in Ireland.

But that's not really the point, is it?  My issue is the idea that rich white people should be allowed to travel while poor dark-skinned people need to stay where they are.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13948 on: 13 January, 2018, 09:24:07 am »
The Leader of the free world is a racist, narcissistic fuckwit with less charisma than a monkeys armpit. Impeachment seems increasingly like a necessary public duty than a criminal one, Americans and the rest of the world need defending from this tanned twerp and his entourage of KKK fans. Let's hope the November mid-term elections prove disastrous for the Republicans and leave the glowering ogre impotent in the White House.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #13949 on: 13 January, 2018, 10:12:55 am »
Well,grandstand all you want,but would YOU live in Haiti?Yeah,didnt think so.

You hear that whooshing sound? That would be the point going over your head.
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