Well this is BLOODY exciting!!!
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/22/glenn-fabrys-cover-to-2000ad-prog-2000-and-an-idea-of-whats-inside/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/22/glenn-fabrys-cover-to-2000ad-prog-2000-and-an-idea-of-whats-inside/)
Excellent.
This is just one of the covers, right?
NEMESIS! :)
Article says its direct market only, limited to 2000.
BUT forget the cover - Nemesis by MILLS and O'NEILL!!!!!
Is that Henry Moon on the 2000(and 16th) cover? Quaequam blag!
Direct rket = comic shop?
Yep pretty much.
Dunno how I feel about Nemesis. I've been rereading it lately, and while the mid-later stuff is a lot better than I remembered, it's also very much done. I suppose I should just be grateful it isn't Langley on art (no offense intended).
That's a pretty stunning line-up! :thumbsup:
I was worried I might not get one, but luckily less than 2000 people actually buy the comic these days. (http://www.badum-tish.com/)
Quote from: Tordelback on 22 June, 2016, 10:23:48 PM
Dunno how I feel about Nemesis. I've been rereading it lately, and while the mid-later stuff is a lot better than I remembered, it's also very much done.
Yeah but Nemesis. And O'Neill. Let's go.
NEMESIS!
Yes, Glenn was kind to show the pencil drawing at Enniskillen.... It is fantastic. Z
Nice cover. Dredd with a chirpy grin is od though.
Here's something I picked up at Lawgiver III and I also saw another cover ;)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/judgedredd67/DSCN2993_zpspqmgalzc.jpg) (http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/judgedredd67/media/DSCN2993_zpspqmgalzc.jpg.html)
Wow! Couldn't figure out who Morrigun was in colour yet it's clear in black & white. Love the dazed look of Wagner, Grant, et al and I can't help seeing Elfric in Tharg.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 22 June, 2016, 10:03:16 PM
BUT forget the cover - Nemesis by MILLS and O'NEILL!!!!!
Gerrindere
Fabry cover? Noice! Wagner and Carlos.E on Dredd? Very noice! New Milligan and Dayglo series? Very noice indeed!
New Nemesis the Warlock by Mills and O'Neill???!!! Bloody Zarjaz!!!
Sorry to be thick, but what exactly does 'exclusive to the direct market' mean? :-[
That you can only buy it direct from the 2000AD webshop or you have to order it through an LCS?
Quote from: moldovangerbil on 23 June, 2016, 08:45:31 AM
Sorry to be thick, but what exactly does 'exclusive to the direct market' mean? :-[
That you can only buy it direct from the 2000AD webshop or you have to order it through an LCS?
Gah! I was even thicker than a whale omelette there - should have read the whole of the thread. :-[
Ignore this!
Right, well, no better issue to start seriously collecting again!
Bloody lovely cover.
Oh... that's bugging me now. Who's the blue guy behind Slaine/right of Nemesis?
Cheers
Jim
That's a great cover, but why is Zenith a woman?
Dunk!
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 23 June, 2016, 10:29:04 AM
Oh... that's bugging me now. Who's the blue guy behind Slaine/right of Nemesis?
Cheers
Jim
Errol Raine, innit?
Quote from: Tordelback on 23 June, 2016, 10:45:21 AM
Errol Raine, innit?
Ta! Unmistakably McCarthy, but couldn't place it for some reason. Possibly because he and Shakara are about the only two characters on the cover created for the prog this century...!
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Tordelback on 23 June, 2016, 10:45:21 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 23 June, 2016, 10:29:04 AM
Oh... that's bugging me now. Who's the blue guy behind Slaine/right of Nemesis?
Cheers
Jim
Errol Raine, innit?
Indeed...dammit, now I want to read Zaucer of Zilk again!
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 23 June, 2016, 10:51:26 AM
Possibly because he and Shakara are about the only two characters on the cover created for the prog this century...
I was about to argue with you... but I can`t. Is the blue haired girl top right Cadet Anderson? Or a younger Aimee Nixon?
The forced smiles on the grumpier characters are hilarious - Kano especially. And as for Hammerstein!
Pretty sure it's Cadet Anderson in undercover punk mode.
Thought so. And the gent in the very top right? Finny?
Quote from: Tordelback on 23 June, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
Thought so. And the gent in the very top right? Finny?
No, he's got a tash, and looks too grey to be Finny. He's not Max Normal...urgh, that one's annoying me now.
I originally thought it was Devlin Waugh - vampire teeth, 'tache - but on the black and white copy it looks like it calls him a vampire accountant, which would make it Yorga from Brigand Doom (!) Surely not?
Heh! What about one if the half-dead Harrys, Kipling or Absalom?
What a weird and fantastic cover. It's like a road accident you can't stop gawking at. Mean Machine looks fantastic - very wolfish - but Waldo "D.R." Dobbs looks like some kind of troll. Dredd looks like he's lost a tooth and Skizz (in front of Alpha) looks like he's been crossed with one of those potato men pet things from Dredd.
I've got to agree that Zenith looks particularly feminine. Nick Stone looks like a drunken leprechaun.
I'm still puzzling out...
Is that Chopper behind Venus Bluegenes and Judge Mortis?
Who's that behind Halo Jones? Is it Nick Savage?
What's the black wombat thing behind the Gronk?
Quote from: Dash Decent on 23 June, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Is that Chopper behind Venus Bluegenes and Judge Mortis?
Who's that behind Halo Jones? Is it Nick Savage?
What's the black wombat thing behind the Gronk?
Yes. Yes. And that's Henry Moon — he's a panther, not a wombat. Honest.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 22 June, 2016, 10:03:16 PM
Article says its direct market only, limited to 2000.
Where?
Confuesd :eh:
Grennie Droid on Rogue, nice!
Still reckon Hammerstein takes the prize.
I love the weirdness of this covet, which comes partly from such cranky types being forced to smile. And Nick Stone looks like Mick Jagger, a connection I never made before.
I know it's been said, but...
N E M E S I S !
So DTM cover means subscribers get something else on the cover, right? Not sure how I feel about that...
Everyone smiling freaks me out!
Quote from: jannerboyuk on 23 June, 2016, 06:50:59 PM
Everyone smiling freaks me out!
Yeah it is kinda hard to decide whose smile is most disturbing. Maybe Dredd... nah surely Kano... but you know what I think its the smile on Rogue's face that's freaking me out most... well either that or its gaining extra freaky by its close proximately to Hammersteins weirdo grin.
(http://www.2000adonline.com/assets/pimg/00/05/13.jpg)
What's going on with Tharg's left hand there? Also Bolland sequential (ie not cover or poster) work! First in a long while.
Space Spinner! Fuck it, best cover ever!
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 23 June, 2016, 07:19:56 PM
What's going on with Tharg's left hand there?
I'm assuming the fingers are on a separate layer (or even a different file) to enable some graphic cleverness, like him grabbing onto one of the 0s in the 2000 logo.
Quote from: Timothyjacobs on 23 June, 2016, 07:19:56 PM
What's going on with Tharg's left hand there?
I assume he's breaking the fabric of reality and story?
But again with the weird smiley Kano!
I love that one! Grumpy Dredd pilot! Shirley Robertson not Bolland?
It is Robinson (it's also not sequential); the Bolland info came from the 2000ad blog post.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 23 June, 2016, 07:48:35 PM
But again with the weird smiley Kano!
To be fair he IS doing his best scooby-do for this cover.
Yeah, the Robinson droid's cover is brill - and a decent number of those characters even originated in the last 1000 progs!
Craziest Chrysoprasia for me!
This is the post I meant.
http://www.2000adonline.com/post/537 (http://www.2000adonline.com/post/537)
Quote from: Tordelback on 23 June, 2016, 07:57:59 PM
Yeah, the Robinson droid's cover is brill - and a decent number of those characters even originated in the last 1000 progs!
Huh, your right. Inaba, Dante, Sticklyback and Gene the Hackman, all post prog 1000.
Very awesome to see 2000AD hit 2000! Now that's a milestone. John and Carlos, Sinister Dexter is back etc, this all sounds groovy to me!
Well, this is the second time this year that a Fabry variant has proven to be the lesser of two. Kennedy's Christmas cover was (for my money) far superior. Fabry's strikes me as a knock off of Weston's birthday poster for prog 1771. Sorry.
Content wise; hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Tjm86 on 23 June, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
Well, this is the second time this year that a Fabry variant has proven to be the lesser of two. Kennedy's Christmas cover was (for my money) far superior. Fabry's strikes me as a knock off of Weston's birthday poster for prog 1771. Sorry.
Content wise; hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Christmas varient was by Bisley. ;)
Those awkward smiles are a delight. My favourite detail is Judge Fire giving the A-OK sign. Love the Space Spinner cover too.
I like the Death selfie is great.
The Cliff Robinson cover is fantastic but I'm really excited to see the Chris Burnham one. I love that Tharg's been able to secure his services and really want to see a strip because a Squaxx is never happy.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll be my usual moany self when I actually read this Prog so I would just like to say hats off to Tharg and his minions for putting together what looks like being an absolute peach of an issue.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 23 June, 2016, 10:51:26 AM
Possibly because he and Shakara are about the only two characters on the cover created for the prog this century...!
So that rules out this cover being the back of Glenn's maths book then.
Mammoth stuff.
Stevie is totally down with new Nemesis providing it's a flashback story ala Pat & Kev's loving, brilliant tribute to the late Ken Reid -- Ego Trip. For the overarching narrative of Nemesis the Warlock is circular in structure, so as TB so rightly puts it, there is indeed nowhere else it can go.
Really really chuffed about the return of the MilliGlo Twins.
& the Rennie/Elson team on Slaine? Wow. :o
Quote from: The Cosh on 23 June, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
The Cliff Robinson cover is fantastic but I'm really excited to see the Chris Burnham one. I love that Tharg's been able to secure his services and really want to see a strip because a Squaxx is never happy.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll be my usual moany self when I actually read this Prog so I would just like to say hats off to Tharg and his minions for putting together what looks like being an absolute peach of an issue.
Love Burnham's art. Going to have to twitter-stalk him over next few days in hopes we see his cover.
No new Big Dave story? Surely the time is right for his return. ;)
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 23 June, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
The Christmas varient was by Bisley. ;)
Sorry, always get that pair mixed up. :-[ Don't know why. Perhaps because I've never been blown away by either.
AMAZING!
Love that Fabry wrap around - those smiling/gurning faces are superb!
Love the other cover too!
Love the line up!
A Bolland strip!
A McMahon page too!
Can't wait for September - oh happy day!
Many congratulations to Commando Forces on getting that amazing piece of art too!
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 24 June, 2016, 04:07:27 AM
& the Rennie/Elson team on Slaine? Wow. :o
That'll be the day.
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 24 June, 2016, 04:07:27 AM
Stevie is totally down with new Nemesis providing it's a flashback story ala Pat & Kev's loving, brilliant tribute to the late Ken Reid -- Ego Trip. For the overarching narrative of Nemesis the Warlock is circular in structure, so as TB so rightly puts it, there is indeed nowhere else it can go.
In what way was Ego Trip a tribute to Ken Reid? I'm not overly familiar with his work, though have looked up what he did, and can't work out a link to Ego Trip.
Does the Mighty One need a space suit? Z
Quote from: sheridan on 26 June, 2016, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 24 June, 2016, 04:07:27 AM
Stevie is totally down with new Nemesis providing it's a flashback story ala Pat & Kev's loving, brilliant tribute to the late Ken Reid -- Ego Trip. For the overarching narrative of Nemesis the Warlock is circular in structure, so as TB so rightly puts it, there is indeed nowhere else it can go.
In what way was Ego Trip a tribute to Ken Reid? I'm not overly familiar with his work, though have looked up what he did, and can't work out a link to Ego Trip.
I'm assuming it's Ken's work on Faceache. I'm now remembering a 'Scrunge' sound effect when Nemesis distorts yer man's body but I think I'm probably making that up.
When I did a bit of teaching about comics I did a session on what made them unique as an art form. I used O'Neil and Reid (Worldwide Weirdies) together as examples of the Grotesque that comics did so well.
Quote from: Greg M. on 23 June, 2016, 11:15:03 AM
I originally thought it was Devlin Waugh - vampire teeth, 'tache - but on the black and white copy it looks like it calls him a vampire accountant, which would make it Yorga from Brigand Doom (!) Surely not?
Its Captain Constanza(Not sure on name) from Fiends on the Eastern Front aint it?
Quote from: Skank on 28 June, 2016, 12:58:47 AM
Its Captain Constanza(Not sure on name) from Fiends on the Eastern Front aint it?
Glenn's margin notes (see Commando Forces' pic of the pencils (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=43430.msg920091#msg920091)) say it's a 'vampire accountant', which doesn't leave me much the wiser, TBH!
Dante's a bit odd-looking in the pencil one, isn't he? Touch of Eugene Root about him. But it's an arsom cover all the same.
I'm sure TMO has all in hand to push/promote/celebrate this milestone but can he please please put a D notice on any hack using POW! BIFF! SPLATT! style headlines :D
Quotethis issue will feature the first sequential comics work by Bolland for 2000 AD since 1987
Any ideas what this may be? A second Dredd tale, after the Ezquerra one? I'm struggling to think of anything other than an early Future-Shock and Walter the Wobot, non-Dredd wise, in the pages of 2000AD...
I'm presuming something along the lines of the page he did for prog 500? - one of the interlinking
Quote from: sheridan on 28 June, 2016, 11:24:34 PM
Quotethis issue will feature the first sequential comics work by Bolland for 2000 AD since 1987
Any ideas what this may be?
Bolland on Droid Life!
Better yet, Bolland on the return of Dash Decent! Come on, Tharg - you know it makes sense.
"The incredible line-up for Prog 2000 includes:
•A special one-off Judge Dredd story from creators John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra"
The Death of Dredd?
Quote from: Dash Decent on 30 June, 2016, 12:54:37 PM
"The incredible line-up for Prog 2000 includes:
•A special one-off Judge Dredd story from creators John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra"
The Death of Dredd?
Twice in a year!?
I wouldn't worry. If they were going to kill off Dredd it would have to be done by John and Carlos, probably in a landmark prog or something.
Quote from: sheridan on 28 June, 2016, 11:24:34 PM
Quotethis issue will feature the first sequential comics work by Bolland for 2000 AD since 1987
Any ideas what this may be? A second Dredd tale, after the Ezquerra one? I'm struggling to think of anything other than an early Future-Shock and Walter the Wobot, non-Dredd wise, in the pages of 2000AD...
There's always talk of that Fatties story that he asked John Wagner to write for him (or some such) but my guess it will be a page in some sort of Tharg B'day celebration story. If it was anything more I'd think (I'm so often wrong about these things!) that we'd have more detail here.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 30 June, 2016, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 28 June, 2016, 11:24:34 PM
Quotethis issue will feature the first sequential comics work by Bolland for 2000 AD since 1987
Any ideas what this may be? A second Dredd tale, after the Ezquerra one? I'm struggling to think of anything other than an early Future-Shock and Walter the Wobot, non-Dredd wise, in the pages of 2000AD...
There's always talk of that Fatties story that he asked John Wagner to write for him (or some such) but my guess it will be a page in some sort of Tharg B'day celebration story. If it was anything more I'd think (I'm so often wrong about these things!) that we'd have more detail here.
Quote from: 2000AD Online
Plus, interlude pages from Brian Bolland, Mick McMahon, Dave Gibbons, Robin Smith, and more.
I'm hoping these interlude pages will be something along the lines of the monumental Tharg's Head Revisited, or even the fun, if not quite so memorable, A Night 2 Remember.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 30 June, 2016, 09:44:20 PM
I'm hoping these interlude pages will be something along the lines of the monumental Tharg's Head Revisited, or even the fun, if not quite so memorable, A Night 2 Remember.
Yeah that's exactly the type of thing I meant.
They could be star scans, reminiscences or congratulatory messages.
I hate to bring the tone of the thread down but.. is there going to be two Prog 2000s now? And two Prog 2001s, 2002s, and so on?
It does say 'Issue' on the Fabry cover, not 'Prog'* - maybe that's the solution.
*Although that has quite rightly been changed from 'birthday' in the pencil sketch.
I thought the numbering malarkey had been sorted.
This is Prog no 2000, a sequential continuation of earlier progs.
The previous Prog 2000 is simply a proper noun and the number just part of the name.
Clear as dayto me! 😉
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 01 July, 2016, 11:02:19 AM
I hate to bring the tone of the thread down but.. is there going to be two Prog 2000s now? And two Prog 2001s, 2002s, and so on?
It does say 'Issue' on the Fabry cover, not 'Prog'* - maybe that's the solution.
*Although that has quite rightly been changed from 'birthday' in the pencil sketch.
Comicvine has solved this issue somewhat by losting progs 2000 and onwards as a seperate annual series. Works somewhat.
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 01 July, 2016, 01:21:02 PM
Comicvine has solved this issue somewhat by losting progs 2000 and onwards as a seperate annual series. Works somewhat.
This seems appropriate, given that the end-of-year progs replaces the old annuals and yearbooks.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 July, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 01 July, 2016, 01:21:02 PM
Comicvine has solved this issue somewhat by losting progs 2000 and onwards as a seperate annual series. Works somewhat.
This seems appropriate, given that the end-of-year progs replaces the old annuals and yearbooks.
Yet problematic given that they also incorporate elements of ongoing stories.
Quote from: The Cosh on 01 July, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 July, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 01 July, 2016, 01:21:02 PM
Comicvine has solved this issue somewhat by losting progs 2000 and onwards as a seperate annual series. Works somewhat.
This seems appropriate, given that the end-of-year progs replaces the old annuals and yearbooks.
Yet problematic given that they also incorporate elements of ongoing stories.
Honestly compared to DC's and Marvel's impossibly labyrinthian back catalogue of cross branching titles, 2000AD's chronology is as easy to follow as ABC.
As opposed to the ABC Warriors who Pat seems to be trying to make as convoluted as he can.
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 01 July, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 01 July, 2016, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 July, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 01 July, 2016, 01:21:02 PM
Comicvine has solved this issue somewhat by losting progs 2000 and onwards as a seperate annual series. Works somewhat.
This seems appropriate, given that the end-of-year progs replaces the old annuals and yearbooks.
Yet problematic given that they also incorporate elements of ongoing stories.
Honestly compared to DC's and Marvel's impossibly labyrinthian back catalogue of cross branching titles, 2000AD's chronology is as easy to follow as ABC.
... Warriors?