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Considering the 'real' script has been floatin' around the web-o-tron for anyone to read for nearly a year and has been reviewed on many script sites -positively- this ain't a scoop as the comic-book-movie article suggests.
FROM MONDAY, JULY 26, 2010:
http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/2010/07/peach-trees.html
And in further news, Man has landed on the moon!
Quote from: Cyclopz on 12 March, 2011, 01:56:41 AMAnd in further news, Man has landed on the moon!
Fake!
:lol:
Silliness aside why do people believe so strongly in the Moon landings being a fake?
I blame Hollywood and Capricorn One!
Capricorn One was quite a believable film.
Even OJ seemed believable.
I don't know, but it makes me really, really angry for a reason I can't quite put my finger on.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 March, 2011, 11:21:28 AMSilliness aside why do people believe so strongly in the Moon landings being a fake?
Probably because it was so long ago and now seems like it was all a waste of time/money and the only reason to go there was propaganda to 'beat' a made-up enemy; the CEOs and governments would rather starve us, then bomb us down to the earth's crust than ever go back.
Discover the reason we never went back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGFNJdTpkMU
All this fake moon-landing theory is getting a bit old.
I'm with Buzz Aldrin on this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU&lc=HAoTlb9REZzNnqCLDugmhmtDKz71nsqzablrztG4jSs&feature=inbox
if they landed on the moon all those years ago.why did they not build the space station on it :think:
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 March, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
if they landed on the moon all those years ago.why did they not build the space station on it :think:
Money, technology and requirement. Probably.
The point was to get there before the Russians, hence "The Space Race".
They did, end of story.
I can't quote numbers, but I should imagine the economics concerned with having a base on the moon, plus the viability of sustaining a group of humans on another planetary body would be astronomical. Without any return on their investment, be that mining the moon for it's mineral wealth or whatever, the American public (if it's an American base - in all probability it would've been) wouldn't have stood for such a huge drain on public resources.
It costs a hell of a lot of money to send stuff into orbit, let alone send the material and manpower to build a lunar base 221,000 miles to an atmosphere free and air-less environment. The logistics involved would be mind boggling.
Maybe one day?
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 March, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
if they landed on the moon all those years ago.why did they not build the space station on it :think:
They did build a great big mirror instead though apparently. For a while now lasers have been bounced off it.
Quote from: Steve DGenerate on 12 March, 2011, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 March, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
if they landed on the moon all those years ago.why did they not build the space station on it :think:
Money, technology and requirement. Probably.
The point was to get there before the Russians, hence "The Space Race".
They did, end of story.
I can't quote numbers, but I should imagine the economics concerned with having a base on the moon, plus the viability of sustaining a group of humans on another planetary body would be astronomical. Without any return on their investment, be that mining the moon for it's mineral wealth or whatever, the American public (if it's an American base - in all probability it would've been) wouldn't have stood for such a huge drain on public resources.
It costs a hell of a lot of money to send stuff into orbit, let alone send the material and manpower to build a lunar base 221,000 miles to an atmosphere free and air-less environment. The logistics involved would be mind boggling.
Maybe one day?
so why did the russkys no go aswell to say the yankies talk shite as they were the first in space
Quote from: Steve DGenerate on 12 March, 2011, 05:52:38 PM
the American public (if it's an American base - in all probability it would've been) wouldn't have stood for such a huge drain on public resources.
Really? They stood-by -and still do- while they pay for multiple wars and banker bonuses. They could have had a moon base in the 90's if they'd kept going instead of toppling democracies and trying to convince us the the world was 'free-market-flat' but only as long as you're using the dollar. Now they have a conservative $14 trillion debt- no moon base from NASA now.
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 March, 2011, 06:04:12 PMso why did the russkys no go aswell to say the yankies talk shite as they were the first in space
In a nutshell: the lack of dynamism, and ironically, control and belief in a communist run bureaucracy. Too slow to get anything done and a lack of consensus support. Much in the way a communist bank doesn't function -it's just a place where money is held, no such things as investments or interest- the space program in Russia was half hearted, no one really believed in it, much like the propaganda they knew they were reading in Pravda everyday.
That's why US propaganda worked so well, the citizens were unaware it was propaganda -renamed Public Relations by Edward Bernays so it would be easier for the public to swallow- the propaganda's target was the US citizens themselves, not the Russians, so they would get behind such a large and expensive project as the Space-Race and believe in it. It worked.
The ISS:
It's just 300km away - in an emergency you can get home by just hopping in an old Soyuz module and more-or-less dropping.
Getting there requires 10% of the fuel required to reach the moon.
It's protected from cosmic rays and effects of solar flares by Earth's magnetosphere.
It's a clean zero-G environment.
A base on the Moon:
Almost 400,000km away.
Journey requires 10 times the fuel required for the same mass to reach low earth orbit.
Bombarded by high-energy cosmic rays and exposed to the risks of radiation from coronal mass ejections.
Dusty and gritty.
They just aren't remotely the same thing. Incidentally, the figures also explain why successfully going to the surface of the moon, and returning, 6 times (and reaching lunar orbit on 4 other occasions) was such a huge achievement, and why it's so bloody annoying to so many of us that so many morons deny it ever happened.
so how many times did they say they went there.with the tecno they had then and what they have now the can build a base there :) :D ;) >:( :P :( :o
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 March, 2011, 01:58:26 AMFake!
Don't be silly, Judge Dredd encountered the original lunar lander while he was Judge Marshall of Luna 1, so it had to be real. ::) Sheesh.
Quote from: judge macbrayne on 12 March, 2011, 08:38:21 PM
so how many times did they say they went there.with the tecno they had then and what they have now the can build a base there :) :D ;) >:( :P :( :o
The ISS is estimated to cost over €100 billion over its 30 year lifespan. You can assume that an equivalent moonbase would cost
at least 10 times that, given the mass-to-orbit fuel requirements, difficulty of resupply, increased wear-and-tear and need for shielding. So roughly
€1 trillion (I'd say that's a monumental underestimate too). Have fun selling that one to Congress, when there are so many popular wars to fund.
But when the good old US of A controls the entire earth, the wealth of other countries can be used leaving them to prosper.
I look forward to seeing my great grand son captaining one of those interstellar star ships.
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Quote from: vzzbux on 12 March, 2011, 11:38:03 PM
But when the good old US of A controls the entire earth, the wealth of other countries can be used leaving them to prosper.
I look forward to seeing my great grand son captaining one of those interstellar star ships.
As I understand it Kerrin has that covered, for a small fee.
Kerrin's a Cylon.
Just think, on a lesser forum, this thread would have been locked after the second post. Instead we get a great discussion about the moon!
Personally I think the moon landing was faked. I mean, how can you land a huge spaceship on something the size of a marble? Next time DO SOME RESEARCH NASA!
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 13 March, 2011, 01:42:06 AMPersonally I think the moon landing was faked. I mean, how can you land a huge spaceship on something the size of a marble?
(http://www.lunadude.com/pet_proj/proteus/images/cmdf_lrg.gif)
(Combined Miniature Deterrent Forces)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2626/4552963584_1205020a72_z.jpg)
http://www.explainingthefuture.com/helium3.html (http://www.explainingthefuture.com/helium3.html)
Helium-3 is the only viable reason for going to the moon, this will in my opinion create a new moon race when energy supplies dwindle on Earth.
Already China is looking seriously at mining projects for the moon and I'm sure I read that India would enter the space race for this reason as well.
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/10/china-launches-second-moon-mission-is-mining-helium-3-an-ultimate-goal.html (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/10/china-launches-second-moon-mission-is-mining-helium-3-an-ultimate-goal.html)
Is the Lunar cycle near it's maximum? It's the only possible explanation for the growing insanity posted on this thread.
We all know the Moon is not the size of a marble but made of cheese.
Well the moon on March 19th will be closer to Earth than it's been since 1992. The full moon that night will appear about 14 percent larger and significantly brighter than usual, so it should be at least the size of a tennis ball.
*This is what happens when we are deprived of Anderson-porn.
Moon madness aside I will never read the script for the film. It just wouldn't be the same to know what's going to happen.
I remember being amazed by of all films 'Easy Rider' not my usual Sci Fi shoot 'em up and I'd have hated to have read the script or anything about it before hand. That ending with that amazing flying bike shot, the baby boomers sixties coming crashing to an end it just wouldn't have held the same magic for me.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 March, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
Well the moon on March 19th will be closer to Earth than it's been since 1992. The full moon that night will appear about 14 percent larger and significantly brighter than usual, so it should be at least the size of a tennis ball.
*This is what happens when we are deprived of Anderson-porn.
So moon based Space Nazis led by Elvis are attacking on that night? With zombies? Have I got that wrong somehow? Or is the moon going to crash like a flaming meteoric world destroyer into planet Earth?
I just ask, as if so, a certain person needs to get a move on, with that ebay spaceship of his, in order to rescue wealthy and essential boarders who shall remain nameless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeAfoiN5SDw
Moon Nazi's...what a combination
:D IRON SKY
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 13 March, 2011, 01:10:16 PM
Or is the moon going to crash like a flaming meteoric world destroyer into planet Earth?
I just ask, as if so, a certain person needs to get a move on, with that ebay spaceship of his, in order to rescue wealthy and essential boarders who shall remain nameless.
You have it all wrong, even now the moon is slowly exiting our orbit, There will be a sudden shift and the moon will go spinning off into space, its harmonious symbiotic control will be gone sending the earth into a chaotic spin wiping out all life.
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Quote from: vzzbux on 13 March, 2011, 08:23:30 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 13 March, 2011, 01:10:16 PM
Or is the moon going to crash like a flaming meteoric world destroyer into planet Earth?
I just ask, as if so, a certain person needs to get a move on, with that ebay spaceship of his, in order to rescue wealthy and essential boarders who shall remain nameless.
You have it all wrong, even now the moon is slowly exiting our orbit, There will be a sudden shift and the moon will go spinning off into space, its harmonious symbiotic control will be gone sending the earth into a chaotic spin wiping out all life.
And this is happening in six days? With zombies? :o :o
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