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Started by The Legendary Shark, 09 April, 2010, 03:59:03 PM

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Peter Wolf

#240
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 17 April, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
So would I. It won't happen, though. Nobody's going to change any of that oppressive legislation.

It does all have the whiff of stage management, though. I was watching an analysis of that leaders' "debate" the other night, and one of the analysts began with the words "the Lib Dems are not going to win the election..." I keep hearing this. The Lib Dems are not going to win. Not going to win. But, they're "doing so well." It's almost like they're being set up to win, just to give the impression to the electorate that something genuinely new is going to happen.

We all know it doesn't matter which branch of the LibLabCon Party gets in, it'll still be the bankers and corporations calling the shots, but those who look no further than the colour of the flag flying above Number 10 will think something significant has happened when, in fact, nothing will change.

Just an observation.

I am not taken in by Nick Cleggs professional northener facade.

LibDems will definately not get my vote.
Worthing Bazaar - A fete worse than death

Peter Wolf

Quote from: Robin Low on 18 April, 2010, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 18 April, 2010, 12:52:06 PM
Why can't we all have our own little local governments on the village/town or county level with Westminster there entirely for national co-ordination? It would be magnificently chaotic and uneven, but truly democratic. Local laws for local people.



Things are difficult and badly coordinated as it is without even more fragmentation.

Regards

Robin

And all that is the complete opposite of what we have going on now regarding the EU and a central planning office that rules 28 member states by dictats.

There is even talk of the EU due to the fiasco in Greece dictating to member states what their budget should be rather than the member state itself deciding its own economic policy.

So i ask how can a central planning office possibly understand what each member states fiscal policy should be ?

How can it possibly know ?

So really central govt at national level is really the only way to do it but on a regional level there should also be less govt dictats because even on a national level its very difficult to have a one size fits all economic policy for example or any policy for that matter.


Worthing Bazaar - A fete worse than death

The Legendary Shark

#242
Of course, the absolute most important thing to do is remove the central banks from the picture and allow governments to print their own money instead of relying on the inherently debt-laden bonds system. Once this is fixed, you will find that many of society's ills actually begin to fix themselves. Until we abolish this horrendous bonds system, there isn't going to be an improvement in anything because it is designed to generate debt. I don't know why more people aren't up in arms about this.

Once we have rescued our economy and parliament from this cancer, we can begin constructing a society future generations can be proud of. If we can fix this one thing, then our generation will shine through the ages as the one that finally emancipated humanity.

If you want to know why I'm so adamant about this, here's a website that explains things much better than I can: http://tinyurl.com/y6ahopc

Please, please, please look into this. It is, in my humble view, the most important political subject I have ever encountered.
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Peter Wolf

#243
The other single most important thing is to remove the round table groups like Bilderberg,The Council On Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission and the Club Of Rome etc from the equation.

These are another kind of cancer that is destroying society.



BTW Nick Clegg is not from Sheffield and he is just another fraud working for the above.

You have been warned.
Worthing Bazaar - A fete worse than death

The Legendary Shark

I agree, Peter - but the central banks are their main weapon. Take this away from them and their power diminishes drastically.
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HOO-HAA

I'm not so into the 'truther' theories, to be honest.

It's not that I rule them out as mere paranoia, but I think there's enough going on under a person's nose to be getting on with, such as the recent expenses scandal, without dipping under the covers.   

Peter Wolf

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Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 18 April, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
I agree, Peter - but the central banks are their main weapon. Take this away from them and their power diminishes drastically.

Thats right as the central banks are their food supply.

My party of choice wont win but i am happy in knowing that i havent been duped by the Dog and Pony show that is the LibLabCon.

You cant fool all of the people all of the time and you cant fool some of them any of the time.

Quote from: HOO-HAA on 18 April, 2010, 06:05:16 PM
I'm not so into the 'truther' theories, to be honest.

It's not that I rule them out as mere paranoia, but I think there's enough going on under a person's nose to be getting on with, such as the recent expenses scandal, without dipping under the covers.  

:lol: ::)

Dont be offended but we have a serious problem here and avoiding it and avoiding the truth isnt going to get us anywhere.

Besides which it is one of my main interests and i mean to continue.

Be very wary of issues that are there to distract you.
Worthing Bazaar - A fete worse than death

HOO-HAA

Quote from: Peter Wolf on 18 April, 2010, 06:15:27 PM
Quote from: HOO-HAA on 18 April, 2010, 06:05:16 PM
I'm not so into the 'truther' theories, to be honest.

It's not that I rule them out as mere paranoia, but I think there's enough going on under a person's nose to be getting on with, such as the recent expenses scandal, without dipping under the covers.  

:lol: ::)

Dont be offended but we have a serious problem here and avoiding it and avoiding the truth isnt going to get us anywhere.

Besides which it is one of my main interests and i mean to continue.

Be very wary of issues that are there to distract you.

I'm not offended at all, dude. :)

Peter Wolf

I am glad about that  :)

I wasnt meaning to take the piss even though i just did.I dont usually make a point of mocking others.Apologies for that.

I am not saying that its not a legitimate issue because it might have sounded like that and i am sure there are some journalists and investigators covering it but its just not important enough for me to waste my time with.Besides there is wholesale fraud that is endemic in the UK political system and politicians buying pot plants or pornographic DVDs or paying for duck islands is only a small part of the problem.

Anyway very little has been done to resolve the expenses issue beyond half a dozen low level sacrificial lambs that are subject to a criminal investigation.

Worthing Bazaar - A fete worse than death

Matt Timson

Quote from: HOO-HAA on 18 April, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 17 April, 2010, 08:03:19 PM
If you don't like the way they govern, refusing to vote isn't the same as taking the moral high ground any more than Pontias Pilate washing his hands is.

For me, to spoil my vote is not just a rejection of the current leadership - it's a rejection of the process, itself.

It's certainly not an exercise in piety...

It's this:

To have my gang get into power and be able to tell you, and your gang, how to live your life seems fundamentally flawed, to me.

'an it harm none, do what ye will'

I have no wish to tell you, or anyone else, how to handle your finances, how to conduct your personal life or how to express your beliefs; religious or otherwise.

Spoiling my vote, therefore, may remain an expression of apathy to you, Usher, but it is the only expression with any integrity I am left with.    

Pffft... I bet you'd be the first to moan if you were denied a vote...
Pffft...

Matt Timson

Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 17 April, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
So would I. It won't happen, though. Nobody's going to change any of that oppressive legislation.

It does all have the whiff of stage management, though. I was watching an analysis of that leaders' "debate" the other night, and one of the analysts began with the words "the Lib Dems are not going to win the election..." I keep hearing this. The Lib Dems are not going to win. Not going to win. But, they're "doing so well." It's almost like they're being set up to win, just to give the impression to the electorate that something genuinely new is going to happen.

We all know it doesn't matter which branch of the LibLabCon Party gets in, it'll still be the bankers and corporations calling the shots, but those who look no further than the colour of the flag flying above Number 10 will think something significant has happened when, in fact, nothing will change.

Just an observation.

What a depressingly accurate observation.
Pffft...

HOO-HAA

No apologies required, Peter!

Quote from: Peter Wolf on 18 April, 2010, 06:38:15 PM
Anyway very little has been done to resolve the expenses issue beyond half a dozen low level sacrificial lambs that are subject to a criminal investigation.

Of course, the whole Swine Flu fiasco was a great distraction from the expenses row. Gubment was quick to hold that up on a sign saying, 'Look, everyone! We're taking serious action to prevent a worldwide pandemic! We are relevant!'

HOO-HAA

Quote from: Matt Timson on 18 April, 2010, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: HOO-HAA on 18 April, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 17 April, 2010, 08:03:19 PM
If you don't like the way they govern, refusing to vote isn't the same as taking the moral high ground any more than Pontias Pilate washing his hands is.

For me, to spoil my vote is not just a rejection of the current leadership - it's a rejection of the process, itself.

It's certainly not an exercise in piety...

It's this:

To have my gang get into power and be able to tell you, and your gang, how to live your life seems fundamentally flawed, to me.

'an it harm none, do what ye will'

I have no wish to tell you, or anyone else, how to handle your finances, how to conduct your personal life or how to express your beliefs; religious or otherwise.

Spoiling my vote, therefore, may remain an expression of apathy to you, Usher, but it is the only expression with any integrity I am left with.    

Pffft... I bet you'd be the first to moan if you were denied a vote...

:lol:

Why, it's my basic human right, I'll have you know!

I do enjoy spoiling my vote so you could be right. This year, a friend and I are considering simply stamping the form with a solid, red VOID.

Roger Godpleton

He's only trying to be what following how his dreams make you wanna be, man!