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#976
Film & TV / Re: Sin City: A Dame To Kill For (2014)
10 March, 2014, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 10 March, 2014, 05:15:14 PM
Quote from: Charlie boy on 08 March, 2014, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 10 March, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
I'm a bit careful looking forward to this one. I'm not a fan of the Dame to kill for book and certainly not the later day stuff by Frank Miller.

Who thought placing Director Frank Miller in the credits was a good idea? I still quite like A Dame to Kill For but have no real interest in the other plots here- especially the newly written one.

I haven't bought any of Miller's comics since the late nineties, but his public meltdown hasn't made me go back and start retroactively hating everything he did in the eighties, as appears to be the fashion. A Dame To Kill For (comic) works fine as a striking and stylised pastiche of Chandler and Cain, but I've no interest in seeing a film adaptation of it.

That story's the definition of Alan Moore's argument that some things just work better as strips than they do on screen; the compromised visuals don't have the same impact as the style of the print originals, and there are sequences of dialogue (some quite lengthy) which are fine on the page, but which would make me cringe or bore me when spoken aloud.

The (in some ways admirable) determination to stick so closely to the text and imagery of Miller's comics meant watching the first film was a very dry exercise for me, so I've no interest in seeing this film. I suppose the producers use Miller's name in advertising for the same reason folk who'd never heard of John Wagner were assured Dredd 3D had his blessing.

Miller is quite involved in the filming, and even if his "The Spirit" is quite awful, it's still quite well made (the esthetics). So no matter how much of a rotter he is, he deserves the title.

But about the title itself. The Hard Good Bye lended itself quite well being adapted. It more or less being film noir on steroids. Problem with A dame to kill for is that it feels like a misunderstanding of the "heroes" Jim Thompson wrote. I seriously hope they'v fixed what they can about adapting it, since it's supposed to follow the novel... Or else it could turn very ugly with, as you said, for example dialogue. Frank Miller isn't exactly Brian Azzarello when it comes to making writing something that can be said loud.

And about adapting a comic. I think Robert Rodriguez would do wonders helming Pat Mill's Marshal Law. While the suit could use some stream lining (less clutter, more clean lines) I think the material itself could suit him really well. Only thing he needs to do is put some weight to the super hero satire and find a balance for the brutal stuff that more or less needs a voice over to put in context (for example the focus on penis).
#977
Film & TV / Re: Sin City: A Dame To Kill For (2014)
10 March, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
I'm a bit careful looking forward to this one. I'm not a fan of the Dame to kill for book and certainly not the later day stuff by Frank Miller.
#978
Film & TV / Re: The New 300 film
10 March, 2014, 10:07:37 AM
While I really liked Eva Green in it, it wasn't much of a film. Took itself too seriously and too much slow motion aimed at 3d movie goers.

Even worse than the freedom speech was the mention of "we are farmers", think it was brought up 3 times through the film. And the kid who painted a skull in his face... 
#979
Quote from: robert_ellis on 07 March, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Doesn't marshal fail to kill himself - and in doing so reject the reanimated Lynn. Later stories really don't feel as grounded as the original 6 issues series.

Yeah, he was shaking to much to "get it right". For which Lynn proposes that should have taken it in his mouth like a real man. But I don't think he wanted to become a zombie, he just wanted Lynn back even if she was a zombie.

Even if it's not satire, it somewhat feels quite in character for both Law and Lynn. Looking back at the first 6, she looks quite annoyed with authority and especially Marshal. Given who he is, no wonder she got angry at him,

Marshal himself isn't just jealous, angry and hurt (much due to him being über macho), but he also hates her costume (that she resembles a super hero) and her company (the ones he wants to kill). I think it's quite unusual for a story to let the main character seeing his buttons pushed in such way. Marshal comes off as quite a sad character in that sequence, like a victim to his own machoism. 

But also. I think Lynn "survived". Looks like she's hiding behind some stone with a nazi insignia on it as Marshal blasts off (the panel with the caption "--I'm off cold meat.").

Must give it another read through soon. While Fear and loathing is undoubtedly my favorite (one that I think is almost as interesting as Watchmen as a comment on superheroes) the others got some stuff going for themselves as well. Just wish, as you said, they'd felt more grounded. Perhaps in a similar way as Dredd is, not afraid to take the backseat at times. Tour of duty is a prime example of that I think.

Quote from: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 07 March, 2014, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: robert_ellis on 07 March, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
I'd recommend the marshal law vs pinhead comics and the savage dragon ones . All ignored by the deluxe book

Not really ignored, but rights issues prevented their inclusion. A collection of Marshal Law cross-overs (similar to our very own Dredd vs Predator vs Aliens vs Marley & Me) has been mooted.

Would really like to read those. Especially if in a similar format as the deluxe book. Perhaps the Savage Dragon could get some color if collected.

What about the novels about Marshal? Those any good?
#980
Books & Comics / Re: Nemo Roses of Berlin
09 March, 2014, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 09 March, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 07 March, 2014, 02:42:15 PM
its a great wee read, art stunning as usual, however you do need your German O grade to get by the first couple of pages. Not too heavy on the references, but enough to keep us busy!

I only understood the German passages in the same way a dog comprehends human speech; I knew many of the nouns, verbs and prepositions, but adjectives and the nuance necessary to understand the grammar of a complete sentence escaped me. I was about to start hammering Google Translate when Jess Nevins and Padraig O Mealoid saved me the bother, and explained some of the more obscure references to genre fiction as well.

I really wish that he gets to write another one of his reading companions to LoeG. There are parts where Century really could use one!
#981
Off Topic / Re: International Women's Day
08 March, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
Things aren't moving fast, but there are some progress (I hope) with education and status.

One example is in Sweden. Public service recently aired a 3 part prog. about feminism. An old timer feminist took a look at the present stuff, and concluded that she doesn't need to agree with every other feminist out there.

It was a program that was followed by a debate program. And lo and behold, a bunch of feminists showed up and showed people in their tv sofas that there isn't much that's strange about the movement.

Given the good exposure, it wouldn't surprise me if there'll be a feminist political party in the Swedish "riskdag" (senate or something) soon.

And as I mentioned education is something I hope will help the status of women.
#982
Quote from: radiator on 08 March, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
It'll never happen (and I understand why), but I want Nintendo to make a genuinely tough Mario game, like how they used to be.

Yeah, I know the recent games get harder after you finish the main levels blah blah blah, but tbh I bored of SM3DL long before that point. The great thing about the classic Mario games were that they really captured that feeling of navigating a tightrope and making it through by the skin of your teeth, and they've lost that in the drive for accessibility.

It beggars belief that Nintendo felt they could launch a new console with so little in the way of games for it.

How do you feel about Donkey Kong? Tropical Freeze is hard as nails. And there's apparently a hard mode also >:(

But I love the game. Much better than the recent Marios (my recent favs are New Super Mario Bros Wii, Mario 3D Land and Mario Galaxy 2.)
#983
Books & Comics / Re: Nemo Roses of Berlin
08 March, 2014, 04:46:51 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 08 March, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Just me then  :-\

Quote from: Apestrife from the What's everyone reading thread on 28 February, 2014, 06:41:03 AM
And this morning by the same Alan Moore and his pardn'r Kevin O'Neil Nemo: Roses of Berlin (Avaible on comixology now!). The story takes in place in Berlin where Jenny Nemo got some serious business to take care of, as in personal. Just as the first Nemo book it's a bit short, but I think it does a great job expanding on stuff mentioned in the previous LoEG books and of course/especially Nemo: Heart of ice, a book that almost left me speptical but Roses of Berlin not only makes it better it also left me wanting more! Looking forward to Nemo: Roses of Berlin as HC in April, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Century collected as HC this summer and Nemo: River of ghosts when it's finished  :)

Me me me me!!!

I really liked it. Especially since I'm a sucker for german noir movies. I'll read it again now i March when it's released as an actual book.

Something I liked about it is how Jenny still is a total hard/badass, but she's started to soften: something which made for one really funny conversation with her daughter in the end of it. Something that'll also improve the first Century chapter for me, which left her in a really dark place.
#984
Off Topic / International Women's Day
08 March, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
Just a little big ups for the women out there.

http://www.internationalwomensday.com/

Myself, I'll be reading this fantastic book to honor it.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...unwomanly-face
#985
Books & Comics / Re: Whats everyone reading?
07 March, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 06 March, 2014, 10:51:21 PM
I recently downloaded the collections of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Century and the two Nimo books from Comixology when I saw how cheap they were.  I've yet to read the Nimo books but I'm quite enjoying Century so far (coming near the end of the the 1960s book at the moment.) But the amount of sex an nudity is kinda ridiculous ! I'm not complaining at how explicit it is just the Shere amount is really daft.

While each one of the Loeg has some sexness (which I certainly don't mind) in them, I feel Black Dossier and Century overdid it at times. But I believe Nemo is a back to form when it comes to that! Less nekked and more adventure.

That said. Can't wait for the Century collected in HC this summer  :)!
#986
Could/should perhaps the [spoiler]jealous and destructive[/spoiler] Marshal be viewed in the light of the first volumes (namely Fear and Loathing's Public Spirit) or should the story's [spoiler]making Lynn a "superhero" and it's ending's "I'm a hero hunter, I hunt heroes, I haven't found any yet... Or heroines" be seen as the joke? Or that she is what she is, a zombie and not Lynn --who's dead.[/spoiler]

Reason why I'm interested in this is that I thought she was a really good character in the first story (where I feel she really stood out how she stood for something), but I'm unsure what to think about character in Super Babylon. The story doesn't make it easy to figure out what to make of her. Any tips? Should I look harder after penis references :P ?
#987
Hi.

Read it the other night. The DC comics deluxe ver. Fear and loathing, Takes Manhattan and Kingdom of the Blind was awesome. And even if Hateful dead, Super Babylon and Secret Tribunal wasn't the best of the bunch, they still where entertaining. And I really liked the "ending" with Growing boy.

But about those. Super Babylon namely. It had me wondering about the following [spoiler]Lynn Evans being brought back as a zombie, and then angering/ridiculing Marshal by doing Black Scarab.[/spoiler]

Anyone's guess what the point was to that? I figure that [spoiler]it could have been to somewhat complicate Marshal, making him jealous and destructive since Lynn "moved on" being an angry and naked zombie.[/spoiler]

Also, anything "wrong" with comics that made her naked and undead? Something akin to the "painful abuse memories" girl from Secret Tribunal or was it just a push against PC? Felt some of those attacks on PC took away from the book at times, making new "wrongs" when attacking those of the old. A bit of self parody perhaps (and perhaps the best way of looking at some of it?)

Hope there'll be some discussion about the book  :)
#988
Books & Comics / Re: Whats everyone reading?
28 February, 2014, 06:41:03 AM
Read The From Hell Companion by Eddie Campbell and Alan Moore last night. From Hell is one of my favourite books and it's companion is not only good with it but also on it's own. Love how Campbell discusses the scripts of Alan. A very good insight in how to create a story!

And this morning by the same Alan Moore and his pardn'r Kevin O'Neil Nemo: Roses of Berlin (Avaible on comixology now!). The story takes in place in Berlin where Jenny Nemo got some serious business to take care of, as in personal. Just as the first Nemo book it's a bit short, but I think it does a great job expanding on stuff mentioned in the previous LoEG books and of course/especially Nemo: Heart of ice, a book that almost left me speptical but Roses of Berlin not only makes it better it also left me wanting more! Looking forward to Nemo: Roses of Berlin as HC in April, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Century collected as HC this summer and Nemo: River of ghosts when it's finished  :)
#989
Prog / Re: Prog 1870 - On Target
26 February, 2014, 07:08:38 AM
Some good thrill in this one.

Dredd had a classic feel to it. An eating contest gone wrong due to mutant worms  :lol: While I really liked Titan it's a good thing to get eps like this now and then too.

And talking about classic. Strontinum Dog Life and Death of Johnny Alpha had a classic feel to it, but I'm not sure if I'll call it a classic. I think I'll need a re-read. But all and all, I really liked this story. Felt like a mix of Portrait of a mutant and Rage with some war comics thrown in (with heroes/enemies being in the grey and the abrupt and anticlimatic ending). I got SD Files 2-3, and I'm really considering getting Strontium Dog: the Life and Death of Johnny Alpha (hopefully Mutant springs and Dogs of war will be collected soon.)

Und ja. The future schock got a little giggle. And I really liked it's art.

Grey Area and ABC didn't do much for me. GA love story wasn't Han Solo/Leia material nor did the aliens attacking feel up to par to for example Aliens. ABC was mostly the art, which is damn good. Love the robot designs. The written stuff not so much.

SD may be gone (For now?) but I'm really looking forward to next week's prog. It and the Meg have been really good this year me thinks  :)
#990
Great story map!

And about Dead man. It's a really good book, but you can read Necropolis perfectly fine without it. And about Chopper, you should stop reading it after Soul on fire and Song for the surfer (that serves as a perfect ending). The rest of it isn't very good.