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Title: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 18 September, 2016, 08:06:40 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/mEG376_zpse1xltivv.jpg)

Splendid work on the cover by Jake Lynch, and inside with Arthur Wyatt, to bring Stewart Perkins' Harry Heston to life.

Realm of the Damned wraps in the gruesome fashion that you would expect.

There's a splendid chapter from the 40 years on update of TPO coming next February.

More Blunt which I confess I haven't read yet and then straight into the last of the current run of Lawless with immaculate line work from Phil Winslade and plenty of story to bring me back for more as soon as this can return, not till 2017 though.

Great issue.

La Placa Rifa
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Frank on 18 September, 2016, 08:19:31 PM
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I loved Phil's choo-choo as much as everyone else, but Jake's just sewn up my vote for Meg cover of the year with that fantastically technically accomplished and very, very droll image.

Obviously everyone gets what he's done, but I post this here for ease of comparison. Proof positive that everything's more fun with monkeys:


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/58/93/88/589388fd86bef4435bd8c175f4e1b4cd.jpg)


La Placa Rifa
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: CalHab on 19 September, 2016, 12:48:48 PM
Another good Meg. Although I came to terms with it in the end, I'm happy that was the final episode of Realm of the Damned. It strikes me as being better suited to Kerrang or something than the Meg (if Kerrang is still going).

The Thrill Power Overload update was enjoyable, but I'm curious about why David Bishop didn't write it.

Lawless was a pleasant surprise. For some reason I thought it had ended last month.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Magnetica on 19 September, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
Probably because it was a double episode. I had the same kind of feeling.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: DarkDaysBish-OP on 19 September, 2016, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: CalHab on 19 September, 2016, 12:48:48 PM
Another good Meg. Although I came to terms with it in the end, I'm happy that was the final episode of Realm of the Damned. It strikes me as being better suited to Kerrang or something than the Meg (if Kerrang is still going).

The Thrill Power Overload update was enjoyable, but I'm curious about why David Bishop didn't write it.

Lawless was a pleasant surprise. For some reason I thought it had ended last month.

Matt offered me the chance to update TPO, but I didn't have the time necessary to do the job properly.
Very happy with the job Karl Stock is doing with the update, judging by this opening chapter.

Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: CalHab on 19 September, 2016, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: DarkDaysBish-OP on 19 September, 2016, 01:53:20 PM
Matt offered me the chance to update TPO, but I didn't have the time necessary to do the job properly.
Very happy with the job Karl Stock is doing with the update, judging by this opening chapter.

Thanks for clearing that up. It was because I enjoyed the original so much that I was surprised you weren't writing the update.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Proudhuff on 19 September, 2016, 02:29:30 PM
Great Megazineage!

Dredd: Urban Gorilla: I think you'd better listen, man In case you did not know, this is a sure shot killer.

Some nice diplomatic choices in the TPO text, nicely done.

Can I be Blunt Anthony? he has the same face  :D

lawless:street. All that for a set up? is there any series that comes to an end and we don't have the whole story poised on a knife end? Mrs Mills' laddie has a lot to answer for!

Dreddlines ahoy! To the Butt'cave Steven and crank up The Beast  :P
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2016, 09:07:52 PM
I'd love to hear a bit more of the attempts to get films made.

Details of the Shoreline Dredd films that never happened, the attempt to raise funds after that folded, the run up to the 2012 movie, and any other ones that got away.

Also how the Fiends of the Eastern Front trailer came about - uploaded in 2006, so that old at least - then disappears and gets repurposed a short while ago.

I'm not sure what the legal niceties of discussing these things are, but I imagine it could make a great chapter.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Frank on 19 September, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 September, 2016, 09:07:52 PM
the Shoreline Dredd films that never happened

They would have been great:  http://www.imdb.com/company/co0074988/


Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 September, 2016, 09:07:52 PM
the Shoreline Dredd films that never happened

They would have been great:  http://www.imdb.com/company/co0074988/

Judge Dredd: Dredd Reckoning, from the company that brought you Caged Lesbos A-Go-Go would of looked good on the poster!  :)
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Steve Green on 19 September, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
Yeah, that's why I want to read about it.

I seem to recall the budget being about $25m for the 2.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 10:39:57 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 September, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
Yeah, that's why I want to read about it.

I seem to recall the budget being about $25m for the 2.


I wonder how far the talks got?
Far enough down the line to warrant it being reported I guess.
Would have be interesting to read about what scuppered the deal though.

Maybe some exec insisting, does that Dredd guy really need to keep his helmet on?  :o
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Frank on 19 September, 2016, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
from the company that brought you Caged Lesbos A-Go-Go

They only distributed Caged Lesbos, MORON!

In the year they were supposed to shoot Dredd: Reckoning, Shoreline put out a straight to video short featuring Keith Duffy from Boyzone, a Christian sci-fi film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gc2QnFglVk) starring Judd Nelson (59% on Rotten Tomatoes), and a Harvey Keitel thriller about pagers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0ILgI7-WEo) (17% on Rotten Tomatoes).

Despite/because of all that, like Steve, I am very interested in reading all about that project*.



* http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1695149.stm

http://variety.com/2001/film/news/shoreline-2000-ad-lock-dredd-deal-for-two-pics-1117854666/
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2016, 10:41:32 PM


They only distributed Caged Lesbos, MORON!

In the year they were supposed to shoot Dredd: Reckoning, Shoreline put out a straight to video short featuring Keith Duffy from Boyzone

Caged Lesbos is arguably the funniest one on that list so I feel absolved.

I think I would of prefered a Boyzone movie to the eventual Spice Girls movie we got, especially if it featured forced disembowelment and tonsil removement!!!! 😀
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 September, 2016, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 19 September, 2016, 09:07:52 PM
I'd love to hear a bit more of the attempts to get films made.

Details of the Shoreline Dredd films that never happened, the attempt to raise funds after that folded, the run up to the 2012 movie, and any other ones that got away.


After the Shoreline deal went south in 2004 another Producer named Silvio Astarita (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0039962/) picked Dredd up in a new deal -

CBR News recently talked with Silvio Astarita, one of the producers of a new Judge Dredd film currently in pre-production with I Am The Law Productions and Framework in association with Rebellion/2000 AD.

In May of last year, Shoreline Entertainment in association with Rebellion/2000 AD announced pre-production had begun on two Dredd films, "Judge Dredd: Dredd Reckoning" and "Judge Dredd: Possession." "Dredd Reckoning" was to be the first film in the series and would pit Mega-City's top cop against corruption in the justice department, and "Possession" would feature Judge Dredd against his arch-nemesis Judge Death. These films were supposed to be shot back to back.

Now that the "Judge Dredd" film is being developed by I Am The Law, these scripts have been abandoned. The current plan is to work on one movie at a time. "We have a new writer on board so we will have a new story line," Astarita told CBR. I Am The Law is currently not revealing the identity of the new writer.

The new Judge Dredd film is still in its early stages of development. Some studios have expressed interest in the film, but the screenplay must be completed before any deals begin.

I Am The Law knows who they want to direct the film. "We do have someone in mind right now, but again to soon to reveal the name." Astarita said

Now that comic book movies are hip again, Astarita said some actors have expressed a desire to play Mega-City's legendary lawman, but the title role would not be cast till a final screenplay is completed and approved. I Am the Law will consider a variety of actors for Dredd. " I do not believe we need a big name actor for the main role but that doesn't mean we will not get one," Astarita explained.

Unlike the previous "Judge Dredd" film, 2000 A.D., the publishers of the "Judge Dredd" comic, are directly involved with the current production. Astarita said this would help I Am The Law create a film that remains faithful to the comics but still appeal to a broad audience. He also said that many of the supporting characters from the comic book would appear in the film.

The tone of the "Judge Dredd" comics has always been sci-fi action mixed with heavy doses of black humor and satire. I Am the Law hopes to capture this for their film. "The film will be dark, more like 'The Crow' with the look of 'Blade Runner,' but dark comedy must have a role in Dredd's world," Astarita told CBR.

Judge Dredd is not a typical comic book hero. He can be cold, uncaring, and merciless. Dredd's only loyalty is to the laws of Mega-City One, which he enforces with zeal. Astarita believes despite this Judge Dredd and his adventures will still resonate with filmgoers. He explained, "Which ever way you cut it everyone likes a Hero. I don't know too many people who did not like Dirty Harry, this is no different. Dredd is in many ways a hero that we love to hate. A tough father figure that has an even tougher code of behavior."





http://www.cbr.com/raising-the-dredd-silvio-astarita-talks-new-judge-dredd-film/


Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Frank on 19 September, 2016, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: JOSÉ JABÓN on 19 September, 2016, 11:02:35 PM
Silvio Astarita (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0039962/)


"Rave Macbeth (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251364/combined) is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture"

Cheers for that, Joséf.


Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 11:25:08 PM
Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2016, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: JOSÉ JABÓN on 19 September, 2016, 11:02:35 PM
Silvio Astarita (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0039962/)


"Rave Macbeth (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251364/combined) is a loose adaptation of the Shakespeare play "MacBeth", except it's set in the world of the dance rave culture"

Cheers for that, Joséf.

Is there some Shakespearean sub genre I was hitherto aware of?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Midsummer_Night%27s_Rave

Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 September, 2016, 11:29:15 PM
Some details about the 2 Canadian writers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144080/) and where the Shoreline deal was headed from the book Comic Book Movies by David Hughes -

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/cbm%201_zpsqpkulo3d.jpg)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/cbm%202_zpswls8jkzt.jpg)


I think Rebellion were wise to hold out for something closer to home.





Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 September, 2016, 11:44:49 PM
The early synopses for the two films (you can see what mistakes were being repeated) -

JUDGE DREDD: DREDD RECKONING
In Pre-Production

Mega-City One, a vast American sprawl in the year 2070, is a city spiraling out of control and drowning in corruption. In the skies, on the streets and in the illegal mutant ghettoes of the ancient Under-City below ground, crime fades into the shadows of a forgotten world.

Policed by "the Judges," a breed of man genetically developed to impose the law and keep the peace, Judge Dredd is the toughest, meanest, and straightest Mega-city cop who operates as instant judge, jury and executioner. Cloned form the original Chief Judge's DNA, Judge Dredd is the definitive lawman. Dedicated to justice, his determination knows no limits. On his word alone any law-breaking citizen can be sentenced to twenty years in the Time Stretcher or a lifetime in the bleak penal colony of Titan.

Yet, after a lifetime on the streets, Judge Dredd, the grand man of the Justice Department, has started to lose faith in the system, which created him. The never-ending corruption, lawless inhabitants and immoral lifestyle are taking their toll. Fearing the Justice Department cannot afford to lose its most legendary figurehead, Chief Judge Silver reads Dredd's frustration and takes action. Ordering a 24-hour news blackout Silver sets Dredd up as the fall guy and has him sentenced to 20 years of solitary confinement in Titan.

Meanwhile, Cadet Judge Kraken, a clone taken from the same DNA as Dredd and every bit the equal of Dredd, is secretly ordered to take on Dredd's identity. As far as the citizens are to know, there will still be a Judge Dredd on the streets of Mega-City One.

Believing Judge Dredd to be guilty and yet filled with unrequited love for him. Dredd's long time female partner Judge Hershey wants to personally deliver Dredd to Titan. Hershey deports Dredd to a strange, alien world where colonists from earth scrape out a meager existence.

As the spaceship lands, a saboteur strikes on board and the ship is destroyed. Leaving Titan is now harder than ever and Titan is not an easy place to live. But if anyone can survive the hostile unchartered area known as the Wilderlands, it is Judge Dredd.

Meanwhile Kraken, under the guise of Judge Dredd, has been enjoying the benefits of corruption in the shady Under-City community. Using the ghettoes as a front for Umpty (illegal, addictive candy) factors and the mutants as free labour, Kraken is severely damaging Dredd's perfect reputation.

One hundred days later, still in the Wilderlands, Dredd and Hershey successfully set up small fighting units to defeat the countless attacks from sinister forces. Mending his relationship with Hershey, Dredd now finds a way for them to flee. Barely escaping with their lives, they return to Mega-City One where Dredd must now clean up the corrupt city and quickly face his most lethal foe. Himself.


Film Credits TBA



JUDGE DREDD: POSSESSION

In Pre-Production

Crushing crime in Mega-City One is Judge Dredd's obsession. As Judge, jury and executioner, Judge Dredd is empowered to dispense instant justice and the city is now running more successfully than ever before. But Dredd can't relax. Rumors are spreading that the sinister Judge Death has penetrated into Mega-City One.

Judge Death soon let's Dredd know of his demonic mission. He wants to destroy the illegal mutant ghettoes of the ancient Under-City. Declaring all life is a crime, the supernatural Death is hell-bent on destruction, believing that the supernatural life is more wondrous.

Judge Cassandra Anderson, a Psi Judge with heightened psychic awareness and powers, teams up with Dredd to drive Judge Death from Mega-City One. Together they work with the cities scientists to create teletronic security devices that create impenetrable security cells around their homes.

In an unusual battle, Dredd tracks down Death, determined to destroy him. But as Judge Death's life is taken from him, he succeeds in getting his evil spirit to possess Cassandra. An internal battle grips her as she is torn between wreaking havoc and upholding the law.

Never knowing whether Cassandra is a friend or foe, Dredd is faced with the dilemma of terminating his companion. Ready to do the deed, he is stopped at the last moment by Judge Silver who decides to encase Cassandra in a transparent prison, not living, not dead, a glass tomb from which neither she nor Judge Death's evil spirit can escape.

As Dredd navigates the prison he learns that Cassandra is carrying a child. Her punishment seems unjust. Doing the unspeakable, Dredd defies the Judges and breaks the law by freeing Cassandra from suspended animation.

Now on the run, he and Cassandra escape into the desert of the Cursed Earth. Not only is Dredd battling the insanity of what he has done, but also he now has to contend with the sinister supernatural entities of the scorched earth.

When Judge Death releases himself from Cassandra's body and tries to take possession of Judge Dredd, Dredd knows he has few options left. The very future of Mega-City is uncertain. Can our hero save himself and annihilate Judge Death once and for all?

Film Credits TBA




Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 11:49:38 PM
It would be interesting to read the various drafts that came before Garland's take on the character.

I wonder if they were ever leaked.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 19 September, 2016, 11:53:41 PM
Those 1989 and 1993 Dredd scripts sure make interesting reading!
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 September, 2016, 12:01:00 AM
These are the 2 updated synopses - most likely related to the later scripts written by Micheal Bafaro & Christopher Donaldson -


JUDGE DREDD: DREDD RECKONING

In Pre-Production

After the Atomic War, the formation of the three Mega-City metropolises has created the need for a superior form of law enforcement: Judges. Empowered to immediately seize, judge, and execute any sentence, they are the only police force remaining within nine years of their initiation. By the year 2087, advances in cloning technology have made possible the introduction of a new generation of Judges, faster, smarter, meaner. One of the first is known as Judge Dredd . . .
Dredd is trained by the aging but ever-sharp Judge Callahan. The first day Dredd sees action, Callahan naturally accompanies him. Tragically, Dredd fails to save his mentor from falling to his doom as they dangle over the city and are riddled with bullets from a team of hovercrafts led by Max Voltek, head of a group of Mega-City assassins.

Eighteen years pass. Haunting the city's streets is the Phantom, a fearsome beast - half animal half mechanical. Dredd now is the most well-known--and feared--of the Judges, notorious for his merciless interpretation of the law. In another confrontation involving Max Voltek, one of Dredd's partners, the stunning Judge Hershey, is left comatose.

Meanwhile, the Senior Chief Judges of Mega-City debate the repressive nature of the existing law system. With a majority vote, Grand Chancellor Bullock vows to moderate the severity of the Judges' enforcement. Dredd tracks down the Phantom and accuses Bullock of being responsible for the Phantom's presence. Dredd in turn is arrested and stripped of his status as a Judge.

Faced with his demotion and the collusion of a high-ranking Chief Judge and the Phantom, Dredd must take matters into his own hands and even form an unlikely alliance with Max Voltek. Acting within the Law to which he is still faithful, will Dredd's determination for justice from outside the Justice Depermant be enough to nullify corruption of the vilest order from within?

Film Credits TBA



JUDGE DREDD: POSSESSION

In Pre-Production

Flashback: 2107, Mega-City One: A vast, futuristic metropolis in the first stages of mass decay, its crime-riddled streets patrolled by Judges, law enforcement authorized not only to arrest but to act as on-the-spot jury and, if necessary, executioner. To combat the depletion of healthy air, water, and food, a brilliant Mega-City professor has developed the Ripper, a device designed to rip a hole in time and space via a mysterious orb, making accessible uncontaminated natural resources from the past. Disastrously, a self-fashioned prophet, Phobia, interferes with the Ripper's first audition. Judge Dredd and his psychic partner Judge Anderson unsuccessfully attempt to subdue Phobia, instead accidentally killing the professor (in front of the professor's young son, Jackman), and loosing the orb into Phobia's possession.

The present, 17 Years Later: The city's environmental deterioration has accelerated. A comet can be seen in the night's sky, descending directly toward the planet. Worse, an alarming number of psychics have been mysteriously kidnapped. An otherwise routine seizure by Dredd and Anderson leads them again to Phobia, only this time she, with the help of the abducted psychics, has summoned the seemingly-invincible Judge DEATH, who considers life itself inherently criminal and is hell-bent on genocide of the human race.
Elsewhere, a bitter Jackman, now twenty-five, busies himself with hacking bank accounts until he discovers that the lost orb has again been activated. His curiosity results in him being pursued by Dredd out into the Cursed Earth, an irradiated desert zone outside Mega City One, occupied by lawless social outcasts, mutants, and worse. Dredd and Jackman are forced to co-operate when they attacked by Cursed Earth denizens, Phobia, and finally an army of the undead, led by two evil Dark Judges: Judge Fire and Judge Mortis.

Back in the heart of the city, Death's spirit has cunningly taken over the drugged body of Anderson, her superior psychic abilities uniting with his, rendering him ever more powerful. Dredd and Jackman return in a battle-scarred humvee, scarcely intact after warding off Fire and Mortis. With hordes of zombies at Death's command threatening to invade the city, Dredd manages to trap Death's spirit within a plastic seal, concomitantly leaving Anderson to suffocate. Suddenly Phobia appears, slashing the encasement to release Death from his synthetic prison.

Dredd and Jackman must now face a terrifying prospect: the only way to permanently annihilate Judge Death and his minions is to follow him into the Dead World through a vortex opened up by the orb. Will Dredd find a way to out-duel Death in his very element? And will Mega-City One survive even another night? Judge Dredd's resilience in the face of the ultimate supernatural evil is the world's last hope.





Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 12:06:02 AM
Quote from: JOSÉ JABÓN on 19 September, 2016, 11:44:49 PM
The early synopses for the two films (you can see what mistakes were being repeated) -





Uhgg, that Dredd Reckoning synopsis sounds almost like a rerun of the Stallone movie!

Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 12:09:42 AM
We should definitely be grateful for the 2012 Dredd movie we got, based upon the evidence!
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2016, 10:30:28 AM
On the initial ones, they sound like something from he-who-shall-not-be-named. Also, Silver apparently sets up Dredd and yet is still Chief in the sequel? O... K...

The rewrites seem better, but the first movie still has that major problem that afflicted Stallone's film: if Dredd is supposed to be a stern upholder of the law, having him stripped of his title before the audience fully understands who he is erodes the entire premise. If Dredd was a TV show and in the last episode, he was no longer a Judge, due to some kind of corruption, that might work. But after half an hour of him breaking heads? Not so much.

Possession also doesn't really work, overcomplicating the original Death strip but without really adding anything. (If you wanted to do a straight take on a Dredd strip with Death, use the basis for the original and then all four of the buggers coming back for the final act.)

One of the things Garland got bang-on was having a sense of focus. Dredd may have this amazing box of toys, but they've been gradually drip-fed to an audience over decades. You don't need to cram them all into a single movie – just take some of what makes Dredd Dredd and put that on the screen. People complained that Garland's take wasn't funny enough, but plenty of Dredd is pretty grim and there was some black humour in the manner Dredd went about his business ("Yeah.") and in the background (such as the mall clean-up). But then that's what you get when you hire a professional who also happens to click with the source material.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Dredd is funny, in the blackest sense, "Drug bust.....perps we're uncooperative."
"Interesting", which got a laugh at every screening I went to see.

It just wasn't Rob Schneide funny, thank fuck!!!!!!
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 01:55:10 PM
*Schneider.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 September, 2016, 04:40:08 PM
The 'Figure a Bullet would do that for you" was a genuine belly laugh in the theater and is still one of my favorite lines in the movie.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 20 September, 2016, 04:40:08 PM
The 'Figure a Bullet would do that for you" was a genuine belly laugh in the theater and is still one of my favorite lines in the movie.

Yeah, and that one!  :)
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: TordelBack on 20 September, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
The lift scene where Anderson reports what Kay is thinking is genuinely hilarious, a classic of understated humour.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 20 September, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
"Wrong answer?"

"You're the psychic."
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 September, 2016, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Mr Roger Godpleton II on 20 September, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
The lift scene where Anderson reports what Kay is thinking is genuinely hilarious, a classic of understated humour.

"Yup."
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Steve Green on 21 September, 2016, 03:23:08 PM
Loved the Harry Heston story - looking forward to the next part.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Goaty on 21 September, 2016, 07:55:30 PM
[spoiler]"Fucking Vampires!"
[/spoiler]
That got me chuckle, perfect ending to well drawn series.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 September, 2016, 08:45:39 PM
Dredd casting news from 26/02/2002 -

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/dredd%201_zpsrik3f666.jpg)


Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 September, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
Quote from: GIUSEPPE SAPONE on 21 September, 2016, 08:45:39 PM
Dredd casting news from 26/02/2002 -

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/dredd%201_zpsrik3f666.jpg)

je suis la loi!

I remember Reno's name being mooted at the time!  :o

Thank Grud that never happened!
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 September, 2016, 09:25:58 PM
I'm torn. Should I read the Thrill Power Overload material now or save it until the book comes out?

Only read Dredd so far and have to say it was immense fun and can't wait for the next part. Really enjoyable story which looked exceptional. Jake Lynch is really devleoping into one to watch.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 22 September, 2016, 09:39:03 AM
Did anyone else bag one of the free Realm of the Dead t shirts being offered in the editorial in this month's Meg.
Due to a busy weekend I did not get around to reading it until Tuesday and by then I was sure that the 10 t-shirts on offer would have been snapped up by eager subscribers.
Never the less, and email was penned and a mere 2 days later the free shirt has just dropped through my letterbox! What sterling service.
A thank you email shall be forth coming.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: GermanAndy on 22 September, 2016, 10:53:18 AM
What a great cover.

Dredd: A very well done fun first part. Even if blowing Dredd away has become kind of running gag lately. Still, can't wait to read the next part.

Realm of the Damned: The magic armour does the trick? Hm. If they hadn't made Balaur so absurdly invincible it would have been more plausible, I think. Still, the ending was genuinly funny.

TPO: This was entertaining. On the history of 2000AD I have read the book, seen the DVD, and this era I have witnessed as a reader myself, so this is interesting. I have to confess that I already forgot a lot of the covered series. Or don't want to remember  ;)

Blunt: I am not sure I could follow who lived or who died, but I want to know how it will end.

Lawless: Best thing in the Meg in ages. A part of 2000AD's appeal is the diversity of artists interpretion. But Winslade has made this so much his creation that I can't imagine other artists on this. I truly hope he will continue Lawless.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 September, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
You'll be glad to know Phil Winslade has no intention of giving up the harness for LAWLESS until it's completed. He and DABnett are clearly working together like a well oiled machine!
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Proudhuff on 22 September, 2016, 07:35:59 PM
I'm Shocked! Buttman's not reporting on Dreddlines...  :(
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: robert_ellis on 22 September, 2016, 09:26:17 PM
Surely a Lawless graphic novel is imminent. The rest of the Meg is great but Lawless is amazing.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: sheridan on 22 September, 2016, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2016, 10:30:28 AM
On the initial ones, they sound like something from he-who-shall-not-be-named. Also, Silver apparently sets up Dredd and yet is still Chief in the sequel? O... K...
It did say that the two films were not related (though strange choice of CJ in both cases).

Quote
Possession also doesn't really work, overcomplicating the original Death strip but without really adding anything. (If you wanted to do a straight take on a Dredd strip with Death, use the basis for the original and then all four of the buggers coming back for the final act.)
Death did possess Anderson in his first appearance though.  Glad neither of those films got made, how lucky we were, though we had to wait for it.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: sheridan on 22 September, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: GIUSEPPE SAPONE on 21 September, 2016, 08:45:39 PM
Dredd casting news from 26/02/2002 -
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/dredd%201_zpsrik3f666.jpg)
Sequel?  Vigilante? *tut*
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2016, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 22 September, 2016, 09:51:21 PMIt did say that the two films were not related (though strange choice of CJ in both cases).
Really? But if you release two Dredd movies, people are going to think they are. And the plan was back-to-back filming. So that makes no sense.

QuoteDeath did possess Anderson in his first appearance though.
Yeah, but only briefly, and not in the crappy way outlined in that synopsis.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: sheridan on 23 September, 2016, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2016, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 22 September, 2016, 09:51:21 PMIt did say that the two films were not related (though strange choice of CJ in both cases).
Really? But if you release two Dredd movies, people are going to think they are. And the plan was back-to-back filming. So that makes no sense.

Mmm, possibly I misread the line after the title of the second film 'which would be unrelated to the earlier film' as referring to the first proposed film, rather than that film from 1995.  Either way, looks like we dodged a bad film.

Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 September, 2016, 09:59:54 PM
So yeah took me a little longer than normal to get to read the rest of the Meg, well the little I did. Realm of the Damned is a skip though I will return to it at some point. I'm saving Thrillpower Overload for a later date (when the book is out) and while I envy those that haven't read ...and Death Shall Have No Dumb Minions but I don't read the floppies of stuff I've got. I'll get to this story again at re-read ... in some time.

So when you are only reading 3 strips in a comic this size you're kinda on a loser... or you would be, but when the strips are of this quality the cost is just about justified. Dredd as I said before is immense fun. In Blunt we have a superb new strip I'm enjoying immensely. It feels like its taken an old formula, group in the wilds being picked off by some natural force and given in fresh life. Such a 2000ad trait and with some great characters this is becoming a bit of a favourite.

Mind good as both these strips are neither can possibly be the best thing in the comic of course cos the flawless Lawless is still in it. Truly one of the best things Tharg's done in a long time and already a firm favourite with me and so many others. Quite brilliant comics. This story ends fantastically and sets up quite something to come next time. Long may this series run and I hope Phil Winslade gets his wish to make this the work that marks his career. Lets hope. Can't wait for the strip to return.

So yeah I'm not reading a particularly large proportion of the Meg but what I do is worth it. Whatever replaces Lawless has a job on its hands mind!
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 September, 2016, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 22 September, 2016, 09:39:03 AM
Did anyone else bag one of the free Realm of the Dead t shirts being offered in the editorial in this month's Meg.
Due to a busy weekend I did not get around to reading it until Tuesday and by then I was sure that the 10 t-shirts on offer would have been snapped up by eager subscribers.
Never the less, and email was penned and a mere 2 days later the free shirt has just dropped through my letterbox! What sterling service.
A thank you email shall be forth coming.

Mine dropped through the postbox today!

It's always nice to get a freebie!  :)

Many thanks to Tharg and his crew!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: TordelBack on 24 September, 2016, 08:09:22 PM
Unlike Colin, I'm reading it all and, like Colin, loving all I read.

The Heston strip is superb, not because of the sentimental resonances, but because it's probably Wyatt's best Dredd script to date: everything feels right including Dredd himself; Heston is rapidly established as an intriguing and sympathetic citizen character (of a type we don't see many of these days); the Comportment is put centre stage' and there's plenty of incidental crazy (Jigsaw disease replacing Cholera is especially good).  Jake Lynch's art scales yet further heights.  Could there have been a better tribute to Logan?  Unlikely.

After that, my favourite thing is Dumb Minions.  I remember this being great, but not this great.  SBD's art is probably the best it has ever been (maybe A Simple Killing? I dunno, but this is something else), and in one sitting the story rockets along to its beautifully melancholy epilogue.   if the current run of floppies doesn't raise general appreciation of Sinister Dexter to tradeworthy heights, Abnett should just give up (please don't). I almost can't believe we are getting Malone next month -  I would buy the Meg just for this.

Happily, I don't have to, because Lawless is very nearly as good.  Winslade should be given ALL the art awards, even Best Colourist, because who could make this strip look any better? Rapidly moving into Greatest Meg Strip Ever territory. 

I'm an unashamed fan of Realm of the Damned, but maybe this final part was a bit lacking in surprises, even while comfortably exceeding its gore targets.  Really enjoyed this story, well done those lads.  Will there be more?

Blunt is also good fun, and the art is superb.  It does suffer from comparison with the first run of Zombo (without the laughs) and Lawless (without the cast), but on its own terms it's a welcome addition to the death planet/colony worlds genre.

TPO The Next Generation was a good read, but reminded me that I still have the 30th Anniversary badge in the coin holder of my Ford Fiesta, which in turn reminds me that I have been driving it for 11 years now.  Did all these things Stock mentions really happen a decade ago?  -sobs quietly-




Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Art on 26 September, 2016, 06:37:54 PM
Jigsaw disease replacing Cholera is especially good

That one is Jake's actually - he adds a lot to these stories in terms of little details like that.
Title: Re: Meg 376 - Urban Gorilla
Post by: Magnetica on 26 September, 2016, 06:55:07 PM
Nice JD this month. Before I read it I flicked through the Mega and thought "oh good it's Henry Flint on Dredd", so imagine my surprise to read the creator credit to see it was actually Jake Lynch. But it is good stuff and to para-phrase Jim (Campbell not Dark) every artist has others they base elements of their style on, so please don't take this as a criticism - in fact given it also reminds me of mid Prog 100 McMahon please take this as praise.

Thankfully Realm is over. For me it didn't really explore the world described in the blurb and the main villain (sorry I have forgotten his name) didn't really seem to do much at all other than a few fights. Overall it was ...ok I guess.

Lawless - yes just great.

Blunt - sorry haven't summoned up enough enthusiasm to read this yet - tomorrow probably.

Sin Dex floppy - just read last month's on the tube today so looking forward to this month's one. Noticed it misses out  a load of stories, but I am guessing it gives us the crucial episode featuring Kal Cutter Isobel and Senor Apellido (I am talking about the 3 floppies over all).  I normally don't read floppies of stuff I already have but make an exception for SinDex (and Finn :lol:)

TPO - great read. This is the sort of directly relevant text article I like to see.