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Title: Prog 1459 - Bite the Bullet!
Post by: paulvonscott on 03 October, 2005, 05:09:31 PM
Well, after venting my frustration with the prog last week, I find myself a sad dried up old geyser, with nothing better to do than start the prog thread.

Mandroid continues to entertain, as he switches gears into full attack mode, and the story starts to throw up new leads.

And Savage goes out with a murderous rampage.  I can't say how much I'm pleased he will be back, to go on further murderous rampages.  Just goes to show to my mind how a second series can really consolidate on what was an okay first series, and really get to work.

As usual skipped Sin Dex, if you are allergic to peanuts, don't eat peanut butter is my advice.

Breathing Space ends.  I suspect I didn't give it the attention it deserved, as I was confused till the end.

Leatherjack continues on with the waffle, but I can live with that as at least things happen this week.

Not sure Fint has Savage down quite right, but it's a colourful and exciting cover, and more importantly the logo is partly obscured to annoy the clean logo brigade.  Hurrah!
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Post by: Artificial Idiot on 03 October, 2005, 08:09:34 PM
Wait - So did Bartram go and kill Luge/Cameron at the end? Unlike last week, I was fine and clear on everything until they point.

Still, I think I've been a bit unfair to Breathing Space in the past, and now I have the whole picture it's actually quite a grand story.

Even though I subconsiously knew it was going to happen (damn you Charlie Adlard!) I was stil quite shocked at Svetlana's death. A very moving and surprising piece of writing... Or maybe I'd just grown a little too attached to the old girl...
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Post by: Dudley on 03 October, 2005, 08:18:25 PM
Flaming hell - WHAT an ending for Breathing Space.  Goning to have to go back and re-assess the whole series now.  That's one of the best endings we've had in a long time.
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Post by: Proudhuff on 04 October, 2005, 02:51:48 AM
Everything that PVS said, except I loved the cover... Flint for Savage III!

Huuf von Huff

Ps Butch Traitious wimmin in (who only really wants a man) in Pat Mills story comes to a sticky end!! shock horror!
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Post by: WoD on 04 October, 2005, 02:57:24 AM
I said to watch out for the waitor...
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Post by: paulvonscott on 04 October, 2005, 03:27:21 AM
I wouldn't argue the point, but surely Monsieur Flint is needed elsewhere and Adlard is already doing a fantastic job.  

Otherwise, I agree with you ;)
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Post by: topshed on 04 October, 2005, 03:37:04 AM
Isn't that Frank Castle on the front? With the skull logo thingy?
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Post by: Oddboy on 04 October, 2005, 05:22:50 PM
Flaming hell - WHAT was the ending for Breathing Space?

Going to read the whole thing through from start to end, see if I can work it out.
Title: Re: Prog 1459 - Bite the Bullet!.....
Post by: paulvonscott on 04 October, 2005, 05:44:10 PM
Not only was he the Earth Murderer, he was someone else, and all the victims too.  Possibly.
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Post by: petesbeats on 04 October, 2005, 06:33:53 PM
I think Luge/Cameron is commiting suicide at the end because of what shes done.  It can be percieved as that ayway.  Then again it could be sometyhing else completely.  Ive definately enjoyed the series though.  One question though.  Why does Bartram have a fit when he touches kingds blood?  Is it because hes seeing all the murders???
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Post by: Funt Solo on 05 October, 2005, 02:07:06 AM
Cover:
I could take this or leave it.  It seems a bit of a mess, tbh.  A striking mess.  "Rog 1459".  Bleh.

Judge Dredd: Mandroid
This continues to be an absolute classic in the making, taking it's sweet time in telling the story.  Three and a half pages of vigilante action, followed by the half page vignette with the kindly neighbours which segues beautifully into the splash image of the struggling perp with the "who would do such a thing?" line.

I also like Kev Walker's rendition of the granite Dredd chin, along with classic Dredd sentencing logic:  keep upping the stakes till the subject gives in (as he faces a metaphorical cliff-face).

It's just a perfect blend of art and script.

Savage: Out of Order
I thought the waiter from last week was dodgy as well, but I figured that the american was a traitor and the waiter was a goon.  So, blind-sided by Mills and Adlard (he had to draw a suspicious looking waiter) as the american is just a patsy and the waiter is a good guy.

I look forward to a new series.  Somehow, this tale requires a resolution.  Savage is becoming more and more, well, savage.  Cold-blooded murder last week (albeit against a hellish maniac) and now more this week, against a group of civilians.  They might be traitors in his eyes, but they're still civilians.  This Savage is certainly an anti-hero.

:: Butch Traitious wimmin in (who only really wants a man) in Pat Mills story comes to a sticky end!!

I have to offer a rebuttal.  Svetlana is certainly a well-trained military officer, but she's hardly butch.  Whilst mentioning marriage, she's hardly displayed any other characteristics of requiring a man to fulfill her life.  She's not traitorous, as she faithfully serves her own country and cause to the bitter end.

Methinks it's another case of twisting the facts around to fit the popular theory.  It seems the only way Mills can win is to not have any women at all in his stories:  but of course he could then be accused of not including them because he hates them.  Ho, and indeed, hum.

Leatherjack
So, now he's surrounded by lots of big guns, which he'll destroy next week (along with anything that fat dude can fire at him).

At some point, the ants will get involved:  which is the only bit that isn't entirely predictable about this well-drawn romp.

Sinister Dexter
Sing-a-long a same old same old.  It's not bad, but it's not offering anything new.  I'm guessing there's going to be lots of shooting and some banter.

I'm not laughing at this series, I'm laughing towards it.

Breathing Space
Okay, slight graphical confusion aside, I think this was a great story, beautifully rendered.

It was confusing at times.  King was confused.  We were supposed to be confused.  My take is that Cameron commits suicide.  She only commited the crimes partly because she was mourning the loss of her mother.   In other words, she was never self-serving or evil:  just very disturbed.

King forces Bartram to touch his blood to get the truth from his head:  so Bartram must have some tactile empathic ability.

Like Ellroy, the plot isn't supposed to be easy to follow:  it was fast moving and convoluted.  Movie pitch, I tell you, movie pitch!
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Post by: Proudhuff on 05 October, 2005, 03:03:18 AM
''Methinks it's another case of twisting the facts around to fit the popular theory. It seems the only way Mills can win is to not have any women at all in his stories: but of course he could then be accused of not including them because he hates them. ''

Yegads and Za-sooks! uncovered! back lads, they're using Scottish Bluebell!

I would have got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky Fates...mumble...'


Bat-huff ( that's Bitter And Twisted)
Title: Re: Prog 1459 - Bite the Bullet!.....
Post by: Leigh S on 05 October, 2005, 03:41:38 PM
Good prog, but having misread Breathing Space before, lets see if I'm not totally off here...

The crimes were committed by someone using magic powers.

And solved by one person using magic powers and another person remembering "hey - I did that!"

On top of that, some magic power enables the magic judge to become King and go and see Cameron top herself?

Hmmmm.  To be honest, I'd have prefered the Bison solution.

One question - why is there a tape on Boot Hill which will tell him about Cameron? DOes this refer back to the first episode, or has my mind glazed over while reading this weeks again?
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Post by: Funt Solo on 05 October, 2005, 04:42:46 PM
re. Breathing Space

I managed to follow this entire series relatively easily, despite some small confusion over the exploding H-Wagon incident, which itself was solved by closely examining the artwork.

I highly recommend anyone who hasn't to read all 9 episodes in one sitting (as I did lastnight) as it throws all sorts of new light onto the tale (which is chock full of red herrings and blind alleys, as a good murder mystery should be).

I have to say, if you're going to complain about the use of psi-powers as a plot device (or any kind of mind control) then you're going to have to complain about nearly all the PJ Maybe adventures and all of the Judge Anderson ones to boot.  It's not as if psi powers are pulled out of the hat at the last minute as a cheat:  we do get clues.  Cameron says to King early in the series "Nice to see you again".  King recognises her perfume as that worn by Luge.  Bartram indicates that something is blocking his psi-power, which indicates another psi is involved.  As the series progresses, we get fed bits of the puzzle, but never the whole jigsaw.

(Aside: Bartram doesn't become King:  he is simply back on Earth and in his Judge's uniform.  On another note, whether he communicates with her psychically, I don't know:  but I remain convinced that she tops herself.  Bartram would arrest her, not kill her.  He's still a Judge, and one that appears to play by the rules.)

The tape on Boot Hill:  earlier in the series, King is desperately missing Judge Luge and requests information on her current whereabouts from the Justice Dept. computer.  However, he's trying to leave that part of his past behind, so rather than look at the information, he goes to Boot Hill and buries it.

In episode 1, that's why he's gone to Boot Hill:  to look at the disc.  He mumbles something like "she never..." and then dies.

Now, here's the sketch:  Judge Luge doesn't exist.  Luge is German for lie.  Luge was Cameron.  The disc is blank.  The completed sentence would be "she never existed".  The reason he never looked at the disc was probably something to do with the conflict between his controlled personality and his subconscious.

It would appear that even Cameron's father didn't know what she had been doing (although he had his suspicions, voiced directly to her just after the first murder).

The only bit I'm still curious about is the rumour one of the bent judges tells his pal about King being fond of female judges.  Because he never actually does sleep with a judge.  But then it could be apparent that he fancies female judges without him doing anything about it:  just check out the expression on his face when he first meets Julias.

Finally, I love reading back over it and realising that King is suffering severe paranoia throughout the investigation.  People keep mentioning love and relationships to him, and he keeps taking it personally, when really it's not (except for that one dig from bent-Judge #1).
Title: Re: Prog 1459 - Bite the Bullet!...
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 05 October, 2005, 04:50:32 PM
Haven't read it yet, but the cover, while pretty good, looks more like Cam Kennedy than Flint to me.
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 05 October, 2005, 04:56:58 PM
damn having to walk the dogs & be at work in 12 minutes... i guess my intelligent & articulate reviews will just have to wait...

theres a few tales which i feel need a good re-read. I loved breathing space, the pace the mood, " nobody ever loved me " SOB !

I'm really unsure about savage, i got confused between jack & tom, but i got irritated less that usual in the last few episodes. I cheered when svelt got it, not really butch, just bayatch, but then any girlie with a mullet like that needs a hail of bullets.

mandroid is fabulous, yet another good guy driven nuts by a crap system & put up against our old hero/antihero Dredd, please don't get him dredd !  old idea done beautifully.

fin & sin .. isnt ramone starting to look suspiciously like a certain artist ? only wrong skin colour ? cool, but then i like peanut sandwiches.

leatherjacket is failing to engage my brain much, worried that the poor bloke needs a gasmask thingy in his pants too.

cover fabbyolus.

right dugs, walkiessss !
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Post by: Oddboy on 05 October, 2005, 05:10:59 PM
worried that the poor bloke needs a gasmask thingy in his pants too.

Maybe Smith & Marshall are over-compensating for the disappearance of gas-masks in the second half of FireKind?
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Post by: Leigh S on 05 October, 2005, 05:21:31 PM
Yeah, the psi powers thing is often used, and its often used lazily.  The reason it's more annoying in Breathing Space than in many other tales is the fact it's so pivotal to solving a story billed as a murder mystery. I can often ignore or accept the convenient PSI revelations of other stories - usually it's a shorthand device to move the plot along. Here, the whole shebang revolves on them.

The odd use of PSI powers can sometimes be OK - in the right story it can be quite effective.  I'm not sure it's much cop as the explanation behind a thriller plot though.  
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Post by: Bad Andy on 05 October, 2005, 05:58:36 PM
What would be nice in Mandroid if old go-go-gadget arm cashes his chips at the hand of Dredd and it turns out that the wife Kitty, who lets not forget is also a soldier, shows up after suffering amnesia in th'ospital and then becomes a long-running vengeance character in the meg.

That's what I reckon anyway. As for Breathing Space - in my opinion the story was good, the story telling was lacking. Which is a bit irritating.
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Post by: Funt Solo on 05 October, 2005, 05:59:12 PM
I would counter that in a world where psi-powers exist, why shouldn't a murder mystery revolve around them?  (I'm reminded of the movie Forbidden Planet.)

As a matter of opinion, we're probably going to have to agree to disagree.
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Post by: Leigh S on 05 October, 2005, 06:19:22 PM
True enough, Fate - I personally don't find PSI powers particularly satisfying most times they appear (supernatural tales or as an amusing or unusual plot point besides), so it's definitely a taste thing.

Now this weeks Savage on the other hand, surely we can all agree on that - Brilliant, unexpected and ...well.... Savage! :)
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Post by: Thursday on 05 October, 2005, 06:27:21 PM
In a setting that features psychics of various types, I'd far prefer a murder mystery that revolves around psi-powers to one in which the characters inexplicably fail to get the friendly neighbourhood telepath on the case.  But that's just me, I find it irritating when something's an established part of the world one week and forgotten the next, just when it would be really useful.
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Post by: Funt Solo on 05 October, 2005, 07:44:25 PM
Yes, I really enjoyed this weeks Savage:  it totally blind-sided me.

What he considers collaborators (ie non-military personnel that outwardly support the Volgan regime) are now considered legitimate military targets by Bill.  That's a step-up.

Is Bill Savage a freedom fighter or a terrorist?

Do we, as readers, support him?  

Where else but 2000AD?  Hats off to the Betelgusian, to Mills and to Adlard.  I've never really strongly disliked Slaine (apart from the art on The Secret Commonwealth) or the ABC Warriors, but I'd be happy to see less of them if it meant more new characters (and this particular Savage is a new character) from Mills.
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Post by: Leigh S on 05 October, 2005, 07:50:39 PM
Thursday - the issue of PSI Divs absence been discussed a few times before...

Link: one psi fits all

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Post by: Leigh S on 05 October, 2005, 07:51:19 PM
plus:

Link: and here

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Post by: Thursday on 05 October, 2005, 08:35:51 PM
Cheers Watcher.  The 'Where's PSI-Div?' example was actually a pretty crap one for me to pick: I've never really had a problem with it, because at least it's consistent.  We don't see Psi judges solving everyday muggings one week and then mysteriously not turning up for the high-profile murder investigation of the year, for instance.

Speaking of consistency, was anyone else surprised by ol' Bill gunning down unarmed (albeit collaborating) civilans?  I don't know whether it's out of character, a natural progression, or something that's already been introduced and I've just missed it, but it was a definite "Wait, what the?" moment.  Can't wait to see where it goes from here.
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Post by: Oddboy on 05 October, 2005, 09:16:45 PM
Don't think he's opened fire on unarmed civilians before - but he's definitely crossed the "morally justifiable" line before. He's a mad dog, and should be put down. But he's our mad dog, so we'll just sic 'im on our enemies while we can.
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Post by: Dudley on 05 October, 2005, 10:28:25 PM
Bit previous, though, innit?
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Post by: The Adventurer on 06 October, 2005, 06:33:52 AM
I thought the cover seemed a little "Frank Miller" to me.  Not my favorite redition of Savage by a long shot, Adlard's still the best at that.

Won't get this issue for another month or so, sometimes this lag time really bits, because I miss out on all the discusion.
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Post by: Noisybast on 06 October, 2005, 06:42:24 AM
"isnt ramone starting to look suspiciously like a certain artist ?"

Blimey, you're right! Hadn't noticed that. Weird...

Also, while Mandroid is undoubtedly an excellent tale, I can't help but be reminded of...
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Post by: GermanAndy on 06 October, 2005, 05:37:11 PM
DREDD: You have to love Dredds interrogation style :-) Still am intrigued how this one will really end. Greatness.

SAVAGE: In another thread there is much about how idiotic the brother subplot is. I tend to agree. The Volgans have no problem to round people up and shot them at a whim, on the other hand they never go after Bill?s relatives? As they are unable to find Bill? Not very realistic.

But it is well written and the art is georgeous. I liked it, even if you could drive a truck sometimes through the plotholes.

LEATHERJACK: this is kind of silly and channels Grant Morrison sometimes :-), but it has become fun.

SINDEX: skipped it.

SPACE: So he wrote the messages to himself. SURPRISE! If you think about this plot more than a minute, it is more farfetched than your average Agatha Christe. The daugther wants revenge and needs a Judge to do it. So she travels to earth to seduce a Judge and manipulates him to go to the moon so he will do the dirty deed. Not that there are enough corrupt Judges on the moon which just needed a little shove to do it also. Yeah, right, makes perfect sense :-) And afterwards she travels to earth to commit suicide because ... ? She is crazy? She loved him after all? Or is this Kings fantasy?

But the art was nice except some flat out bad and needlessly confusing action sequences. still, at least it had some nice atmosphere.
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Post by: Roger Godpleton on 06 October, 2005, 08:36:33 PM
Cover: I thought "wow" to myself when I saw it in the shop. Striking.

Dredd: Enjoyed this, I loved the starkness of the art here, seemed really appropriate. The interrogation bit is in IMHO the best "Dredd as bastard" scene since the "NEVER creep up on me" scene from the last Chopper story.

Savage: Wow, this is bleak. Bill now seems to be locked in an endless cycle of revenge, and the restaurant and playground scenes were two of the most upsetting moments I've seen in the Prog for ages. I absolutely loathed the first book, but this has turned into one of my favourite stories in a while.

Leatherjack: I've gone off this, it just seems to be padded out to a rather unnecessary degree. I don't buy this "levelling up" business, it only really works when your character is relatively weedy. Our unstoppable assassin is now even more unstoppable. And the puritan stuff has just gone OTT "St. Whitehouse"? How original.

Sin/Dex: Enjoyed this episode. Barely any crappy jokes and tedious shootouts, although I suspect Abnett will rectify this soon. Plus Simon's art is reliably lovely. Why can't Sin/Dex always be serious?

Breathing Space: Predictable. There were no plotholes here, and the art is pleasant enough, but it still all seemed a bit flat.

Overall: An highly enjoyable effort. Breathing Space and Leatherjack left a slightly sour taste in the mouth, but the cover, Dredd, and the best last episode in yonks more than justify my not-so-hard-earned ?1.75.  
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Post by: Steve Green on 06 October, 2005, 09:46:16 PM
Her mother jumped off a tall building on the Moon, yes? How does that work with 1/6th gravity?

Terminal velocity on Earth is about 120mph, on the moon wouldn't it be 20mph, seems a bit of a crap suicide method?

- Steve
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Post by: Wake on 06 October, 2005, 09:54:38 PM
Terminal velocity is related to wind resistance, not gravity. So long as the building is high enough you could probably accelerate to a deadly speed. I'll do some calculations a bit later when I have some time.

Cheers,

Wake
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Post by: Satanist on 06 October, 2005, 09:54:48 PM
"Terminal velocity on Earth is about 120mph, on the moon wouldn't it be 20mph, seems a bit of a crap suicide method? "


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
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Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 October, 2005, 11:08:48 PM
But isn't Luna-1 built under a dome filled with air and an atmosphere, thus making life there possible? You don't see people jumping 100ft into the air or floating gently through the city, so I assume that within the Lunar-1 dome normal moon-rules don't apply and the atmosphere (and physics) is much like Earth's.
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Post by: Thursday on 06 October, 2005, 11:18:49 PM
They seem to have an earth-like atmosphere but unless they've artificially jiggered the gravity - which they could have done, I suppose - Luna City's gravity should be about a sixth of that on Earth.  

A few back-of-an-envelope equations indicate that, on the moon, you'd just need to jump from about six times higher to get the same eventual velocity (I could be entirely wrong, though).  

Given that you can kill yourself just by tripping over and landing badly, I don't think it'd be too difficult to jump to your death on the moon.  

(Besides, they didn't specify it was the fall that killed her: she could have got bored on the way down and shot herself)
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Post by: Funt Solo on 06 October, 2005, 11:19:15 PM
Pumping in air won't result in increased gravity.  When we see film of the moon landings* we can see that although there is less gravity, it's not possible to jump 100ft in the air (but then they were wearing heavy suits).

The lessened gravity was used (by Wake?) as a good reason for King and Julias being able to leap from the dropping H-Wagon to a passing H-Copter (a seemingly impossible feat).

* No, they weren't faked.
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Post by: Funt Solo on 06 October, 2005, 11:20:33 PM
> she could have got bored on the way down and shot herself

She was only wearing a flimsy nighty - where could she have concealed a...nevermind.
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Post by: Oddboy on 06 October, 2005, 11:50:29 PM
She was only wearing a flimsy nighty - She might have caught neumonia on the way down, then!
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Post by: Wake on 07 October, 2005, 12:02:23 AM
A terminal velocity of 120 mph is about 50 metres per second. On Earth this speed can be reached by something falling from a height of 250 metres. On the moon if the pull of gravity is 6 times lower then this speed will be reached by a fall from 1500 metres. However, 25 metres per second (about 60 mph) would be reached on the moon by falling 375 metres.

Jumping heights and the distances people can safely drop, etc would all be approximately multiplied by 6 and if you are trying to kill yourself you don't have to land on your head from very high up for it to be fatal.

Cheers,

Wake
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Post by: Max Kon on 07 October, 2005, 12:06:15 AM
erm, she jumped from her appartment on earth. Not the moon behind her and the regular MC-1 judge uniform, not lunar-1 uniform. So what are you all talking about?
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Post by: Max Kon on 07 October, 2005, 12:06:53 AM
note not not
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Post by: Max Kon on 07 October, 2005, 12:09:46 AM
oh i see, you're talking about the mother. it doesn't say she was on the moon when she died
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Post by: Wake on 07 October, 2005, 12:10:47 AM
I haven't checked but I assumed that while the daughter jumped on Earth, the mother committed suicide on the Moon.

Cheers,

Wake
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Post by: Max Kon on 07 October, 2005, 12:15:17 AM
*max goes off to check the rest of breathing space
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Post by: Max Kon on 07 October, 2005, 12:26:56 AM
It never says where she killed herself.

Then again, the story does ignore astrophysics. The earth doesn't rise on the moon, the same side is always facing the earth.
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Post by: Trout on 07 October, 2005, 03:24:09 AM
I enjoyed Dredd, Savage and, for once, SinDex.

Leatherjack is still inexplicably entertaining, as it's inexplicable and clearly bollocks, but entertaining bollocks can't be bad. Er, missus.

Conversely, Breathing Space was just bollocks. I still have no idea what the hell's going on, or who anyone is. I have been working very hard lately, and I'm really tired all the time, so perhaps I'm just not following it.

I'll give a re-read a try.

- Trout
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Post by: Steve Green on 07 October, 2005, 04:26:48 AM
The gravity on Luna-1 is 1/6 Earth's, hence the gravity boots (and hill), and the flying Lawmasters in the Dredd Luna 1 stories. (I guess the bike chase in Breathing Space wouldn't have been as dramatic with those)

I did really badly in physics at school, having a larger distance to fall to reach terminal velocity sounds right...

- Steve
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Post by: Carlsborg Expert on 10 October, 2005, 01:17:18 AM
Oho noo,your not going anywhere till I get my copy tomorrow.

Lateness due to stock market slump!

:)